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What’s the biggest mistake you see in PLO8 games these days?
Not my thread obviously and it doesn't apply to online, but live PLO8 the mistake is only playing the nuts.  Not because only playing the nuts is a bad strategy but because there tends to be a limited pool of PLO8 players and if you only play A-A-wheel-wheel you won't get any action.  We have guys who quit playing because the second they make a raise or a bet everyone folds, even the action players, and they get pissed.

 
NFL receiver props, most total yards, 2018 season... DeAndre Hopkins the best value on the board? 

It's suicide to consider Josh Gordon, right?
I'd refer to one of my betters in the FFAWT re: specific NFL questions, but I don't think anything's necessarily suicide if the odds are right.

 
Bigger dumba## that gets your blood boiling? 

A) The guy who figured out how to tell by sight which scratcher tickets would pay off, and told the lottery commission instead of cashing in?

or

B) The guys who figured out that the Video Poker machines in every Vegas casino had a software bug that allowed you win endlessly, and got so greedy they got caught almost instantly (instead of just winning $1,000/$2,000 a day and flying under the radar, trying to go for a $100k score in one quick run and get noticed by the pit boss when they have to keep filling out the tax forms for winning big every day all week long at the same casino)?
A.

JFC is that a real person? JFC. Being dumb/greedy I can understand, but not taking advantage of an edge and telling the house (or state, I guess) about it...wtf.

 
Any tips on betting greyhounds?

Go for the big one? The little one? The one that just dropped a duece on the track?
No clue. Couple points: Multi-way betting is always tougher sledding than just picking one side or the other, due to the crazy vig that's attached. Two, as with almost anything, ignore recent results and just try to isolate a given horse/whatever's skill. 

Racing is too deep a hole for me to go down.

 
Favorite sport to wager on?

Favorite sport to wager and sweat?
Boxing and boxing. Biggest downside is only about 20 markets per week, and digging into them takes a lot of time if you really want to cap well. And a lot of the odds are pretty lop-sided. But there is nothing like sweating boxeo. Short and sweet.

 
Is there ANY chance Hillary loses to Trump?
538 "closed" with Trump having a 30% chance, which is significant and that was increasing right up until Election Day. They caught some flak, but I think they were much more dialed in to whatever that was at the end than a lot of people, Trump campaign included. Glad I laid off.

 
Single-deck with no doubling after splits and lousy penetration, or double-deck with DAS and consistent 67% penetration?
The only scenario where I like blackjack is where it involves crews counting cards and hurting cardrooms. It's a miserable game to play imo, so I'll punt this one to the room.

 
McD was re-creating the strategy Johnny Chan used in the final hand of that WSOP video he was watching with Petra.  Kept checking/calling to convince KGB he was on a draw when McD actually had flopped the nut straight.  

We never see KGB’s cards, but it’s assumed KGB was holding AA, the same hand that bankrupted McD in the opening scene.  That would have given KGB a set of aces, second-best possible hand on that board.  
Shoot, missed this one. But yeah, he was very clearly trapping/slow-playing.

BTW, I think most of the time that slow-playing or trapping is a bad idea, especially heads-up. If I'm playing HU, I'm stabbing at a lot of pots on the flop with either nothing or semi-bluffing, to start just calling down can look suspicious. I probably just check-raise the flop, then bet turn, bet river.

Also, if the pot is growing exponentially via half to full-pot bets, you are better off building a big pot by betting reasonable amounts on three streets. The concept that improved my post-flop play immeasurably is Stack-to-pot ratio, or SPR, simply how big the pot is relative to how much we're playing for. To illustrate with a simple example, let's say you have AK on a A74 board on the flop, and there's already $10 in the pot. If I push all-in and it's up to you to call or fold, you have two very different decisions if you have a stack of $10, or if we have stacks of $1000.

 
Not my thread obviously and it doesn't apply to online, but live PLO8 the mistake is only playing the nuts.  Not because only playing the nuts is a bad strategy but because there tends to be a limited pool of PLO8 players and if you only play A-A-wheel-wheel you won't get any action.  We have guys who quit playing because the second they make a raise or a bet everyone folds, even the action players, and they get pissed.
Look at mr fancy pants who gets to play live plo8. :hot:

But yeah, playing online, I think it's a matter of getting out of the "make the low nuts" mindset, and getting creative. The biggest mistake I see is what people don't do enough, which is betting the river when the low bricks out. Even just half a pot, I've found this to be an incredibly effective move. Sometimes you get called and get caught with your pants down, but more often than not you can steal it.

 
What is most efficient way to get free drinks in Vegas? Video poker at bar in casino?
$2 video blackjack at most hotel island bars.  Planet Hollywood sportsbook bar is my go-to.  Stick a $20 in, play a hand every couple minutes, pound your drinks and go for a walk.  PH sportsbook also gives out 2 drink tickets per $100 bet.

 
I'd refer to one of my betters in the FFAWT re: specific NFL questions, but I don't think anything's necessarily suicide if the odds are right.
Making money on sports gambling has very little to do with picking winners.  There are no certainties.

Sorry for taking over your thread GPJ, I'm supposed to be packing for the Derby, but this seems like a better way to procrastinate.

 
Making money on sports gambling has very little to do with picking winners.  There are no certainties.

Sorry for taking over your thread GPJ, I'm supposed to be packing for the Derby, but this seems like a better way to procrastinate.
You're going to the Derby?!?! You sand bagging son of a #####!

 
You're going to the Derby?!?! You sand bagging son of a #####!
I'll be the dude in the infield not wearing a stupid hat or bow tie and sweating PGA shot tracker while hopefully chugging Captain and Cokes out of a camel pack.

Or I'll be mistaken for Joe Pesci again.

 
Does he keep a running record?  Historical record?
He posts at cappingthegame. I'll dig around for it, but he averages around 50-150 units a year. Which comes out to 2-6 per week over the season, which isn't much. But the dude's free, and that ####'s a grind.

I'm also dicking around with some of my own ideas. With MLB it's important to really just press through the bad days/weeks, it can be a grind.

 
That makes no sense.  Why would you tail some random guy that doesn't keep historical records?
I've attempted to type nine different responses to this, but they would all make me come off as smug.  From my experience winning cappers aren't the "look at me type", those are marketers posing as cappers.

 
I've attempted to type nine different responses to this, but they would all make me come off as smug.  From my experience winning cappers aren't the "look at me type", those are marketers posing as cappers.
The ability to beat sides and totals of a major market is incredibly difficult.  The services and reputation of a credible long term winner is worth millions of dollars.  Why would any successful capper who can consistently beat a major market not open up that possibility?

 
The ability to beat sides and totals of a major market is incredibly difficult.  The services and reputation of a credible long term winner is worth millions of dollars.  Why would any successful capper who can consistently beat a major market not open up that possibility?
Because the market self corrects.  Tout with 20,000 followers gives out a +300 prop play and in 10 minutes the books drop it to +175.  If someone is that good, why wouldn't they bet more instead of waste time appeasing to the masses.

It's a lot easier to beat a market than to tail a guy that's beating the market, because you aren't getting the same lines.

 
Because the market self corrects.  Tout with 20,000 followers gives out a +300 prop play and in 10 minutes the books drop it to +175.  If someone is that good, why wouldn't they bet more instead of waste time appeasing to the masses.

It's a lot easier to beat a market than to tail a guy that's beating the market, because you aren't getting the same lines.
Not to mention the tout's already hit it himself, and if he's what he says he is, he's already marked so the juice moves automatically before you even get word.

I wouldn't even try to tout props. That's just an exercise in frustration for everyone.

 
Making money on sports gambling has very little to do with picking winners.  There are no certainties.

Sorry for taking over your thread GPJ, I'm supposed to be packing for the Derby, but this seems like a better way to procrastinate.
This is so key. You're boiling a team/player down to a number: 63%, 4%, 20%, etc. If Josh Gordon has a 5% chance of leading the league in rec. yards, that's a good bet if you're getting 100-1. Five times out of 100 your $1 bet wins $100, 95 times you lose $1. So if you make that bet 100 times, you're going to net $405. 

 
This is almost never the case. The Touts or Scamdicapper's as we like to call them almost never invest their own money on a game, it's just not practical. There's no reason for them to lay out their own money.
I know what you're talking about, and they're an unsavory lot. But I think there a lot of guys on Twitter who are free or sell their picks cheap who play their own stuff.

Like hooter says, winning cappers aren't the "look at me" type.

 

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