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Benson Is Terrible (1 Viewer)

huckyoda said:
Colin Dowling said:
huckyoda said:
428143 said:
flapgreen said:
428143 said:
If Benson doesn't rush for a 100 and TD versus KC, I'll join in, but he will, and then some...

And I'll take Benson's supposed lack of toughness over Mr. Hop around, go down on first contact every friggin time, never move the pile, Thomas Jones every day of the week...
:thumbup: :thumbup: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I know you love TJ, but the truth hurts...he is a weak RB, and while the jury is still out on Benson, I believe he will put Thomas Jones' best season in Chicago to shame this year...time will tell...
Why is the jury still out? For how long does he have to suck for people to recognize it. 2+ years and counting...
He hasn't sucked for two years.
He sucked as a rookie in 2005. He sucked in 2006, except for some garbage-time yards against GB. He sucked in pre-season. He sucked week one. He hasnt done anything since college, which is already a long time ago.
He rushed for 4.1 as a rookie. He rushed for 4.1 as a 2nd year man and scored 6 TDs. Aside from that, considering he had the same YPC as the "other" running back and the team went 13-3, I'm still surprised that he "sucks." Not as good (yet) as has been expected, but you do realize he has a better YPC then Cadillac WIlliams (3.9) and is oly a tick behind Ronnie Brown (4.2)?

Power Monster said:
Don't be ridiculous. Aside from both playing for Chicago, there is very little to compare about the two.

I am not impressed with him thus far. He looks slow in every phase of his game and from where he was drafted and the amount of time in which he waited in the wings the guy is not going to endure himself to Chicago fans if this keeps up. I will give him up to week 8 to prove to me that he can avoid being labled as a BUST. And by the way- when he gets up off the ground in the second quarter real slow like it is the 4th quarter and he just ran for 200 yards- well that dog and pony show has to stop. IE- he needs to take the diapers off now.....
All good points. None of which have anything to do with, or anything similar, to Curtis Ennis.
 
It's pretty funny around these parts and other fantasy boards. The nation has come to grips that Cedric Benson Sucks. I read the Bears message boards and they think he sucks, I listen to local California radio and people actually call in to say Benson sucks (that's a rare thing), Jim Rome is saying he sucks, Terrell Davis/Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders all talk about how bad Benson sucks all the time, 90% of this forum and other forums think Benson Sucks.

The only time I hear he doesn't suck is on a fantasy football message board and that's only about 10% of people on fantasy boards. Let's see here, 10 team league = 1 owner = 10%. Looks like the only people who haven't come to the realization he sucks are his fantasy football owners. Stick a fork in this guy.

 
Keith Lewis said:
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
I just hope all the people that hate Benson will be around by the end of the season.
Thomas Jones will be around and punch Benson in the face. :confused:
remember, jones 'struck' him in the face... not 'punched' him... when i hear 'struck', i immediately think along the lines of a backhanded b-slap, and benson letting out a hurtful yelp while a tear rolls down his cheek.and for those of you who do not remember curtis enis, he was also a purported power runner who couldn't find gaps and would always wind up running into his own teammates... no resemblance?...
 
huckyoda said:
Colin Dowling said:
huckyoda said:
428143 said:
flapgreen said:
428143 said:
If Benson doesn't rush for a 100 and TD versus KC, I'll join in, but he will, and then some...

And I'll take Benson's supposed lack of toughness over Mr. Hop around, go down on first contact every friggin time, never move the pile, Thomas Jones every day of the week...
:lmao: :thumbup: :stalker: :pokey: :lmao:
I know you love TJ, but the truth hurts...he is a weak RB, and while the jury is still out on Benson, I believe he will put Thomas Jones' best season in Chicago to shame this year...time will tell...
Why is the jury still out? For how long does he have to suck for people to recognize it. 2+ years and counting...
He hasn't sucked for two years.
He sucked as a rookie in 2005. He sucked in 2006, except for some garbage-time yards against GB. He sucked in pre-season. He sucked week one. He hasnt done anything since college, which is already a long time ago.
He rushed for 4.1 as a rookie. He rushed for 4.1 as a 2nd year man and scored 6 TDs. Aside from that, considering he had the same YPC as the "other" running back and the team went 13-3, I'm still surprised that he "sucks." Not as good (yet) as has been expected, but you do realize he has a better YPC then Cadillac WIlliams (3.9) and is oly a tick behind Ronnie Brown (4.2)?

Power Monster said:
Don't be ridiculous. Aside from both playing for Chicago, there is very little to compare about the two.

I am not impressed with him thus far. He looks slow in every phase of his game and from where he was drafted and the amount of time in which he waited in the wings the guy is not going to endure himself to Chicago fans if this keeps up. I will give him up to week 8 to prove to me that he can avoid being labled as a BUST. And by the way- when he gets up off the ground in the second quarter real slow like it is the 4th quarter and he just ran for 200 yards- well that dog and pony show has to stop. IE- he needs to take the diapers off now.....
All good points. None of which have anything to do with, or anything similar, to Curtis Ennis.
OK....
 
The nation has come to grips that Cedric Benson Sucks. I read the Bears message boards and they think he sucks, I listen to local California radio and people actually call in to say Benson sucks (that's a rare thing), Jim Rome is saying he sucks
OHHHHHHH... why didn't you say so before. Now I'm convinced!
 
It's pretty funny around these parts and other fantasy boards. The nation has come to grips that Cedric Benson Sucks. I read the Bears message boards and they think he sucks, I listen to local California radio and people actually call in to say Benson sucks (that's a rare thing), Jim Rome is saying he sucks, Terrell Davis/Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders all talk about how bad Benson sucks all the time, 90% of this forum and other forums think Benson Sucks.The only time I hear he doesn't suck is on a fantasy football message board and that's only about 10% of people on fantasy boards. Let's see here, 10 team league = 1 owner = 10%. Looks like the only people who haven't come to the realization he sucks are his fantasy football owners. Stick a fork in this guy.
Good point. I think this logic should be applied all around... :popcorn:
 
Basically it doesn't matter how much he sucks cause he will still be the full time starter all year. We are talking about the same staff that thinks Grossman just needs a few more chances to turn it around. Benson will not be replaced during the season unless he fakes an injury.

 
Keith Lewis said:
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
I just hope all the people that hate Benson will be around by the end of the season.
Thomas Jones will be around and punch Benson in the face. :goodposting:
remember, jones 'struck' him in the face... not 'punched' him... when i hear 'struck', i immediately think along the lines of a backhanded b-slap, and benson letting out a hurtful yelp while a tear rolls down his cheek.and for those of you who do not remember curtis enis, he was also a purported power runner who couldn't find gaps and would always wind up running into his own teammates... no resemblance?...
:cry: :hot: :lmao: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
428143 said:
flapgreen said:
428143 said:
If Benson doesn't rush for a 100 and TD versus KC, I'll join in, but he will, and then some...And I'll take Benson's supposed lack of toughness over Mr. Hop around, go down on first contact every friggin time, never move the pile, Thomas Jones every day of the week...
:thumbdown: :hifive: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I know you love TJ, but the truth hurts...he is a weak RB, and while the jury is still out on Benson, I believe he will put Thomas Jones' best season in Chicago to shame this year...time will tell...
I would never say I love TJ. I thought he was servicable rb but not great. I just think Benson's a chump and sucks terribly.I do hope you're about him puttting TJ's best season to shame though. I won't complain.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
I just hope all the people that hate Benson will be around by the end of the season.
Highly doubtful whichever side is wrong will be around at that time. Most people on this board completely dissappear from these threads after they end of being wrong, or they spin it another direction. I'll be here either way.
 
Benson was an enigma entering the league. He seemed to struggle against top competition in college and bombed in his workouts, but I thought he might have enough football skills to become a solid starter in the NFL. Looks like I was wrong. He doesn't make special plays and only seems to be able to take what the defense gives him. Plus, he seems to have a pissy/quitter personality.

I think he'll finish with decent totals due to a high number of carries, but I'm predicting a sub 4.0 YPC for him. I would avoid him in dynasty leagues. I don't think he has a very bright future. We'll see.

 
It's pretty funny around these parts and other fantasy boards. The nation has come to grips that Cedric Benson Sucks. I read the Bears message boards and they think he sucks, I listen to local California radio and people actually call in to say Benson sucks (that's a rare thing), Jim Rome is saying he sucks, Terrell Davis/Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders all talk about how bad Benson sucks all the time, 90% of this forum and other forums think Benson Sucks.

The only time I hear he doesn't suck is on a fantasy football message board and that's only about 10% of people on fantasy boards. Let's see here, 10 team league = 1 owner = 10%. Looks like the only people who haven't come to the realization he sucks are his fantasy football owners. Stick a fork in this guy.
The other time you hear he doesn't suck is from the entire Bears organization, who voluntarily traded away Thomas Jones purposely allowing Benson to assume the #1 role.
 
The anti-Benson crowd has some very valid points about Benson's underwhelming vision, quickness to the hole, toughness, attitude, etc. IMO these considerations will likely keep Benson from developing into anything more than a serviceable RB2 type of FF player.

The pro-Benson crowd also has some very valid points, relating to the Bears' commitment to Benson and the unlikely possibility of Peterson replacing Benson in any situation other than an injury to Benson. The Grossman analogy is well-taken in this regard.

Now I happen to own Peterson in both of my leagues, as the last RB on my bench. I'm holding him because I happen to think the chance of that injury situation coming about with Benson is higher than with most RBs out there. The admittedly limited evidence we have suggests that it just doesn't take much to force this guy to the bench.

I also tend to be higher on Peterson than many, in that IMO if Benson should exit the picture with an injury, Peterson would instantly become a terrific RB2, and outproduce Benson in the same offense.

 
Wow, I have never seen such hatred for anybody in some time. I dont get it. The guy is just a football player, people need to relax.

This keith lewis guy is out of his f'n mind over Benson.

Im a Bear fan and I dont think Benson sucks. I just think he needs a fire lit under his ### very soon. Im almost positive he has what it takes from a talent level, he just needs the proper motivation. Its an intense game. He needs to watch LJ and run angry

 
I also tend to be higher on Peterson than many, in that IMO if Benson should exit the picture with an injury, Peterson would instantly become a terrific RB2, and outproduce Benson in the same offense.

:shrug:

ALso sitting on Adrian Peterson. From what I saw of Adrian Peterson last year I think he'd put up better numbers than Benson in this offense. HArd to know for sure because he didn't carry the load so he was always playing fresh. Still, he ran well and I think he'd be a very good RB2 if he were to get the starts.

 
Bringing the bile for Benson

Bears coach Lovie Smith (don't worry, I have enough bile left for the Cubs) has refused to have an open competititon for the quarterback and running back spots, places where Jerry Angelo spent first-round draft picks.

Connect the dots, people. I mean, Smith demoted one of his Super Bowl defensive ends -- the wrong one, it says here -- but it worked out because all three of them made big plays last week, so the idea that your job is on the line seems to make sense, more sense than just handing the job to Cedric Benson. What really frosts me is not so much that I believe Angelo is dictating Smith's decision in these two areas, but that Benson acts like he's entitled to it and makes public the slights from teammates, real or imagined, as if to say, "Mommy, make it stop.''

Trib colleague David Haugh suggests Adrian Peterson should be given a start ahead of Benson to get the attention of Benson and the rest of the team. I don't think Peterson is the answer--and really, neither does Haugh. Peterson hasn't been for the series of coaching staffs around here. Thing is, it really doesn't matter if Peterson is the answer as long as the Bears are afraid to confront the question the right way.

But wait. It gets worse. First, there was some unnamed Charger talking about how they figured they could make Benson quit the way he is viewed as quitting on his team in the Super Bowl. Here's the key part from what I highlighted yesterday:

"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."

First of all, talking to "guys around the league'' sounds like a bunch of hooey. You don't get that "quit'' label from guys around the league. You get it from a guy's teammate. I mean, who would know whether Benson quit on his team better than a teammate in the Super Bowl locker room and on the Super Bowl sideline? So I'm thinking that unnamed Charger has some unnamed Bears friends.

But now a Charger has put his name to some comments that will damn Benson for now, for a while and maybe forever: Shaun Phillips echoed the idea that Benson is considered soft to the point that the Chargers built their game plan around it.

"When we studied him that was one of our knocks on him. If you hit him a little bit he can get a little disgruntled and talk a little trash to him and give him a couple of shots, he'll fold and take it in," Phillips told a San Diego radio show. "That's what we were able to do and I'm pretty sure that's going to haunt him the rest of his career." :shrug:

This gets back to the refusal to allow someone to compete with Benson the way the Bears refused to allow anyone to compete with Rex Grossman, and it's clearly because of the mental and emotional stuff. The Bears coddle and enable in a game where toughness is the coin of the realm. Grossman seems like he can handle mental and emotional adversity like an adult. Benson not so much. Not even close a lot of times. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jerry Angelo's idea of a "special"' back. Thank you, good night, and drive home safer than Lance Briggs.

 
Bringing the bile for Benson

Bears coach Lovie Smith (don't worry, I have enough bile left for the Cubs) has refused to have an open competititon for the quarterback and running back spots, places where Jerry Angelo spent first-round draft picks.

Connect the dots, people. I mean, Smith demoted one of his Super Bowl defensive ends -- the wrong one, it says here -- but it worked out because all three of them made big plays last week, so the idea that your job is on the line seems to make sense, more sense than just handing the job to Cedric Benson. What really frosts me is not so much that I believe Angelo is dictating Smith's decision in these two areas, but that Benson acts like he's entitled to it and makes public the slights from teammates, real or imagined, as if to say, "Mommy, make it stop.''

Trib colleague David Haugh suggests Adrian Peterson should be given a start ahead of Benson to get the attention of Benson and the rest of the team. I don't think Peterson is the answer--and really, neither does Haugh. Peterson hasn't been for the series of coaching staffs around here. Thing is, it really doesn't matter if Peterson is the answer as long as the Bears are afraid to confront the question the right way.

But wait. It gets worse. First, there was some unnamed Charger talking about how they figured they could make Benson quit the way he is viewed as quitting on his team in the Super Bowl. Here's the key part from what I highlighted yesterday:

"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."

First of all, talking to "guys around the league'' sounds like a bunch of hooey. You don't get that "quit'' label from guys around the league. You get it from a guy's teammate. I mean, who would know whether Benson quit on his team better than a teammate in the Super Bowl locker room and on the Super Bowl sideline? So I'm thinking that unnamed Charger has some unnamed Bears friends.

But now a Charger has put his name to some comments that will damn Benson for now, for a while and maybe forever: Shaun Phillips echoed the idea that Benson is considered soft to the point that the Chargers built their game plan around it.

"When we studied him that was one of our knocks on him. If you hit him a little bit he can get a little disgruntled and talk a little trash to him and give him a couple of shots, he'll fold and take it in," Phillips told a San Diego radio show. "That's what we were able to do and I'm pretty sure that's going to haunt him the rest of his career." :pickle:

This gets back to the refusal to allow someone to compete with Benson the way the Bears refused to allow anyone to compete with Rex Grossman, and it's clearly because of the mental and emotional stuff. The Bears coddle and enable in a game where toughness is the coin of the realm. Grossman seems like he can handle mental and emotional adversity like an adult. Benson not so much. Not even close a lot of times. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jerry Angelo's idea of a "special"' back. Thank you, good night, and drive home safer than Lance Briggs.
Holy crap! You started a seperate thread for this AND posted it in here? What the F is wrong with you? Ive never seen somebody hate an athlete like you hate this guy.
 
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The anti-Benson crowd has some very valid points about Benson's underwhelming vision, quickness to the hole, toughness, attitude, etc. IMO these considerations will likely keep Benson from developing into anything more than a serviceable RB2 type of FF player.

The pro-Benson crowd also has some very valid points, relating to the Bears' commitment to Benson and the unlikely possibility of Peterson replacing Benson in any situation other than an injury to Benson. The Grossman analogy is well-taken in this regard.

Now I happen to own Peterson in both of my leagues, as the last RB on my bench. I'm holding him because I happen to think the chance of that injury situation coming about with Benson is higher than with most RBs out there. The admittedly limited evidence we have suggests that it just doesn't take much to force this guy to the bench.

I also tend to be higher on Peterson than many, in that IMO if Benson should exit the picture with an injury, Peterson would instantly become a terrific RB2, and outproduce Benson in the same offense.
I own Peterson so I hope you're right, but what reason is there to believe that Peterson would outproduce Benson in the same offense? Professional NFL coaches have evaluated these guys for years and they clearly think Benson is the better back as evidenced by them naming Benson as their #1 RB. I'd be psyched to see Peterson take over for Benson, but to expect him to outproduce Benson would be implying that you know something the Bears coaching staff doesn't.

 
The anti-Benson crowd has some very valid points about Benson's underwhelming vision, quickness to the hole, toughness, attitude, etc. IMO these considerations will likely keep Benson from developing into anything more than a serviceable RB2 type of FF player.

The pro-Benson crowd also has some very valid points, relating to the Bears' commitment to Benson and the unlikely possibility of Peterson replacing Benson in any situation other than an injury to Benson. The Grossman analogy is well-taken in this regard.

Now I happen to own Peterson in both of my leagues, as the last RB on my bench. I'm holding him because I happen to think the chance of that injury situation coming about with Benson is higher than with most RBs out there. The admittedly limited evidence we have suggests that it just doesn't take much to force this guy to the bench.

I also tend to be higher on Peterson than many, in that IMO if Benson should exit the picture with an injury, Peterson would instantly become a terrific RB2, and outproduce Benson in the same offense.
I own Peterson so I hope you're right, but what reason is there to believe that Peterson would outproduce Benson in the same offense? Professional NFL coaches have evaluated these guys for years and they clearly think Benson is the better back as evidenced by them naming Benson as their #1 RB. I'd be psyched to see Peterson take over for Benson, but to expect him to outproduce Benson would be implying that you know something the Bears coaching staff doesn't.
I've just been more impressed with Peterson's vision, burst, and tenacity in finishing off runs. Benson reminds me too much of the post-2000 yards version of Jamal Lewis -- sluggish to the hole and goes down easily.I surely wouldn't proclaim to know more than the Bears coaches or any other professional evaluators, though.

That said, I do think there's merit to the notion that the Bears (particularly Angelo, but Lovie Smith to some degree too) are married to Benson, for better or for worse, at this point. They drafted him #4, gave him big $$$, and traded Jones away so he could be the man. Benson would have to go Mike Vick on them before the org would shove him aside for a career backup like Peterson.

 
It's pretty funny around these parts and other fantasy boards. The nation has come to grips that Cedric Benson Sucks. I read the Bears message boards and they think he sucks, I listen to local California radio and people actually call in to say Benson sucks (that's a rare thing), Jim Rome is saying he sucks, Terrell Davis/Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders all talk about how bad Benson sucks all the time, 90% of this forum and other forums think Benson Sucks.The only time I hear he doesn't suck is on a fantasy football message board and that's only about 10% of people on fantasy boards. Let's see here, 10 team league = 1 owner = 10%. Looks like the only people who haven't come to the realization he sucks are his fantasy football owners. Stick a fork in this guy.
This board is getting worse every day with these types of threads. And the same guy has to start a couple more threads on the same crappy topic. We get it, you do not like Benson. Move on to something else.
 
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Benson sure isnt liked in the pool...what does Benson have to do to prove all the haters wrong?? consecutive 100 yds games? TDs.. name it?
A good season. Individual games are meaningless.
That would be interesting to see around here. I can't help but think it would take more then one good season to get approval from the pool.
You might be right, but I can't speak for everyone else.I don't hate the guy. I just want him to live up to his draft position, which he hasn't even came close to doing yet. :goodposting:ETA: And quit with all the crying while doing so.
 
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GordonGekko said:
It's only been one week and it's a long long season. Benson's real problem is he won't shut up and everyone hates him for that and it focuses on his negatives on the field. Grossman/Benson are a linked problem. Grossman doesn't seem to garner enough respect for his playmaking abilities so opposing D's stack the box on Benson. Benson doesn't appear driven or talented enough to push past all that and still punish the defense anyway to open up opportunities for Grossman. Brees/Tomlinson is a good example of two players who kept feeding off of each other's success. There's a certain amount of synergy that comes from QBs and their RBs in a good offense. Grossman is what he is right now. His position is much tougher to deal with than Benson. Benson has to take the rock and drive it and make something out of nothing. Only then can he free up some relief for Grossman and then Grossman can pay back the favor by making opposing D's respect the pass enough to set up the run. This entire Grossman/Benson issue like watching a fat chick gains weight. She eats, she gets depressed, to counter the depression she eats some more, which makes her get more depressed, and on and on and on. Thats why that offense really blows. At some point a fat chick has to say, "#### all this ####, it's time to bleed it all out at the gym or die trying" Cedric Bensons attitude is like a fat chick who won't stop shoving cheeseburgers in her face. You can draft talent, but you can't draft heart. If Bears fan want a heart transplant for this kid, someone go find Tom Waddle. Waddle was a marginally talented player in the mold of The Ricky Proehl Surprising White Wide Receiver who simply wanted it more and more badly than the opposition. I loved watching Tom Waddle play. He was like a chick who could be fat, you could see the fat genes in there, but worked out 6 hours a day to stay skinny. Benson needs to shut his face and carry this team on his back even if the odds are stacked against him. Thats what separates elite players from the rest. God bless the Tom Waddles of the world, they remind us why the Cedric Bensons of the world truly don't succeed.
GB, GG
 
GordonGekko said:
It's only been one week and it's a long long season.

Benson's real problem is he won't shut up and everyone hates him for that and it focuses on his negatives on the field.

Grossman/Benson are a linked problem. Grossman doesn't seem to garner enough respect for his playmaking abilities so opposing D's stack the box on Benson. Benson doesn't appear driven or talented enough to push past all that and still punish the defense anyway to open up opportunities for Grossman.

Brees/Tomlinson is a good example of two players who kept feeding off of each other's success. There's a certain amount of synergy that comes from QBs and their RBs in a good offense. Grossman is what he is right now. His position is much tougher to deal with than Benson. Benson has to take the rock and drive it and make something out of nothing. Only then can he free up some relief for Grossman and then Grossman can pay back the favor by making opposing D's respect the pass enough to set up the run.

This entire Grossman/Benson issue like watching a fat chick gains weight. She eats, she gets depressed, to counter the depression she eats some more, which makes her get more depressed, and on and on and on. Thats why that offense really blows. At some point a fat chick has to say, "#### all this ####, it's time to bleed it all out at the gym or die trying"

Cedric Bensons attitude is like a fat chick who won't stop shoving cheeseburgers in her face.

You can draft talent, but you can't draft heart. If Bears fan want a heart transplant for this kid, someone go find Tom Waddle. Waddle was a marginally talented player in the mold of The Ricky Proehl Surprising White Wide Receiver who simply wanted it more and more badly than the opposition. I loved watching Tom Waddle play. He was like a chick who could be fat, you could see the fat genes in there, but worked out 6 hours a day to stay skinny.

Benson needs to shut his face and carry this team on his back even if the odds are stacked against him. Thats what separates elite players from the rest.

God bless the Tom Waddles of the world, they remind us why the Cedric Bensons of the world truly don't succeed.
:sarcasm: hmm cheesburger :shrug:
 
I agree its a long season and I'm not going to rush to judgement on Benson/Bears vs a tough SD Defense. Benson still has to prove his worth since he is the so call work horse RB. I am a Benson owner and would be lying if I wasn't concerned. I am going to give Benson a few weeks before I hit the eject button.

 
Wow...the hate for Benson is incredible. If you hate him that bad why did you draft him? If you didn't then who cares as you won't trade for him.
Some of us actually care more about real football than fantasy football. I realize this a new concept to some, but it's true.
Since it's a fantasy football forum it is pretty obvious that fantasy is the primary discussion, but I guess the obvious is lost on you. Pretty sure there are some good Bears forums to visit.
 
GordonGekko said:
It's only been one week and it's a long long season. Benson's real problem is he won't shut up and everyone hates him for that and it focuses on his negatives on the field. Grossman/Benson are a linked problem. Grossman doesn't seem to garner enough respect for his playmaking abilities so opposing D's stack the box on Benson. Benson doesn't appear driven or talented enough to push past all that and still punish the defense anyway to open up opportunities for Grossman. Brees/Tomlinson is a good example of two players who kept feeding off of each other's success. There's a certain amount of synergy that comes from QBs and their RBs in a good offense. Grossman is what he is right now. His position is much tougher to deal with than Benson. Benson has to take the rock and drive it and make something out of nothing. Only then can he free up some relief for Grossman and then Grossman can pay back the favor by making opposing D's respect the pass enough to set up the run. This entire Grossman/Benson issue like watching a fat chick gains weight. She eats, she gets depressed, to counter the depression she eats some more, which makes her get more depressed, and on and on and on. Thats why that offense really blows. At some point a fat chick has to say, "#### all this ####, it's time to bleed it all out at the gym or die trying" Cedric Bensons attitude is like a fat chick who won't stop shoving cheeseburgers in her face. You can draft talent, but you can't draft heart. If Bears fan want a heart transplant for this kid, someone go find Tom Waddle. Waddle was a marginally talented player in the mold of The Ricky Proehl Surprising White Wide Receiver who simply wanted it more and more badly than the opposition. I loved watching Tom Waddle play. He was like a chick who could be fat, you could see the fat genes in there, but worked out 6 hours a day to stay skinny. Benson needs to shut his face and carry this team on his back even if the odds are stacked against him. Thats what separates elite players from the rest. God bless the Tom Waddles of the world, they remind us why the Cedric Bensons of the world truly don't succeed.
Good points made here.
 
GordonGekko said:
It's only been one week and it's a long long season. Benson's real problem is he won't shut up and everyone hates him for that and it focuses on his negatives on the field. Grossman/Benson are a linked problem. Grossman doesn't seem to garner enough respect for his playmaking abilities so opposing D's stack the box on Benson. Benson doesn't appear driven or talented enough to push past all that and still punish the defense anyway to open up opportunities for Grossman. Brees/Tomlinson is a good example of two players who kept feeding off of each other's success. There's a certain amount of synergy that comes from QBs and their RBs in a good offense. Grossman is what he is right now. His position is much tougher to deal with than Benson. Benson has to take the rock and drive it and make something out of nothing. Only then can he free up some relief for Grossman and then Grossman can pay back the favor by making opposing D's respect the pass enough to set up the run. This entire Grossman/Benson issue like watching a fat chick gains weight. She eats, she gets depressed, to counter the depression she eats some more, which makes her get more depressed, and on and on and on. Thats why that offense really blows. At some point a fat chick has to say, "#### all this ####, it's time to bleed it all out at the gym or die trying" Cedric Bensons attitude is like a fat chick who won't stop shoving cheeseburgers in her face. You can draft talent, but you can't draft heart. If Bears fan want a heart transplant for this kid, someone go find Tom Waddle. Waddle was a marginally talented player in the mold of The Ricky Proehl Surprising White Wide Receiver who simply wanted it more and more badly than the opposition. I loved watching Tom Waddle play. He was like a chick who could be fat, you could see the fat genes in there, but worked out 6 hours a day to stay skinny. Benson needs to shut his face and carry this team on his back even if the odds are stacked against him. Thats what separates elite players from the rest. God bless the Tom Waddles of the world, they remind us why the Cedric Bensons of the world truly don't succeed.
Accurate or not, that was a masterpiece.
 
Okay, he's soft. Or he's not. Either way, if he's going to remain the starter and continue receiving carries for Chicago how will he be anything less than a serviceable #2 rb?

I can understand the hate for this guy and to a certain extent I agree with it. However, unless Adrian Peterson is some Pro Bowler that's been sitting on the bench for a few years, Benson will continue to receive the bulk of the carries. With Rex Grossman being their qb and them having a studly defense, they will still run the ball a lot.

 
Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!

Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!

 
Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!
We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2 :confused:
 
Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!
We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2 :popcorn:
:XI was asking if anyone watched the game, or if they're simply looking at the stats afterward. Besides, AP is not taking his job. The only reason AP should be on your roster is to handcuff Benson in case he goes down with an injury.
 
Wow, I have never seen such hatred for anybody in some time. I dont get it. The guy is just a football player, people need to relax.

This keith lewis guy is out of his f'n mind over Benson.

Im a Bear fan and I dont think Benson sucks. I just think he needs a fire lit under his ### very soon. Im almost positive he has what it takes from a talent level, he just needs the proper motivation. Its an intense game. He needs to watch LJ and run angry
You must have not seen the Grossman hate fest then....On to the topic, when are people going to realize that it is very tough to run on the Chargers. No one can do it....even the Broncos cannot. So can we wait until we give Benson at least one full season before he pull out the bust label? :thumbup:

Last year, he was the only RB who could produce against the stout defenses like Minny and Patriots. For the idiot that said he only produced during garbage time of the Green Bay game, that is not true. He was killing the Packers D in the 1st quarter and 1st half in general....go look at the box score again. And the game did matter to GB, it did not matter to the Bears. For GB, that game was their Superbowl. The Bears actually were preparing to win in the playoffs to actually go to a SB.

 
This thread will explode after this weeks game against the Chiefs. If Benson runs for 40 yards again all the haters will be here in full force. If he runs well and scores all the haters will just say "it was the chiefs, big deal". This one is easy to predict.

 
Mark me down as a "hopeful" Benson owner.

I'm hoping he proves all the naysayers wrong.....but for now he is stashed on my bench behind J.Addai, R.Bush, M.Lynch, & D.Ward.

 
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Benson Takes a Few Late Hits

TRASH STALKING | Chargers' Phillips claims Bears RB is just 'a little soft'

September 13, 2007

BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com

It's not just the media going after Cedric Benson these days. Now opponents are piling on.

Comments from San Diego Chargers linebacker Shaun Phillips that attacked the Bears running back Tuesday on Sirius Satellite Radio served to fuel the off-field battle being waged by the franchises.

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''When we studied him, that was one of our knocks on him is that he can get a little disgruntled when you hit him a little bit and you talk a little trash to him and give him a couple shots,'' Phillips said on ''The Afternoon Blitz.'' ''It's what he did. He turned the ball over. He'll fold, and he'll take it in. I'm pretty sure that's going to haunt him the rest of his career with me telling people over the radio.

''That's the last thing, to me personally as a player, that I want anybody to say, that I could be a little soft or that I can get out of my game by somebody being physical with me. So, if I was him, I would take it to the drawing board and I'd use it for what it's worth, and that would be my motivation that I'm coming out here and I'm trying to smack everybody's head off every single play every chance I get an opportunity. But, unfortunately for him, that's going to haunt him for a little bit of his career until he can prove that's not true.''
 
Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!
We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2 :thumbdown:
Peterson should always have a better YPC average than Benson. Why? He only carries the ball when it's 3rd & 40. The defense will gladly give him daylight if he wants to take a meaningless draw play for 12 yards.
 
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Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!
We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2 :lmao:
As a fellow Benson hater(dont hate him just not convinced he's the man) I give you this observation, the Chargers dropped their DB back into coverage when Peterson was on the field, they guessed rightly that Peterson would be targeted out of the Backfield. When Peterson Ran he had a whole lot more room then Benson, it dont change my mind on Benson, but lets be fair. The Chargers were out to make sure that Benson did not get on track.
 
Mark me down as a "hopeful" Benson owner. I'm hoping he proves all the naysayers wrong.....but for now he is stashed on my bench behind J.Addai, R.Bush, M.Lynch, & D.Ward.
You in 8 team league to have Addai, Bush, Lynch all on one team? Dynasty - Or no WR? :lmao:
 
This thread will explode after this weeks game against the Chiefs. If Benson runs for 40 yards again all the haters will be here in full force. If he runs well and scores all the haters will just say "it was the chiefs, big deal". This one is easy to predict.
And also rest assured the supporters will keep clamoring to give him a little longer if he has another bad game or season. Unlike some are trying to spin it, the Benson backers will either dissappear or make up a different excuse if/when Benson doesn't cut it. It's no different at all.Btw,NO ONE IS CLAIMING BENSON SUCKS BECAUSE OF ONE GAME. THIS IS HIS 3RD SEASON.
 
flapgreen said:
Brutis said:
This thread will explode after this weeks game against the Chiefs. If Benson runs for 40 yards again all the haters will be here in full force. If he runs well and scores all the haters will just say "it was the chiefs, big deal". This one is easy to predict.
And also rest assured the supporters will keep clamoring to give him a little longer if he has another bad game or season. Unlike some are trying to spin it, the Benson backers will either dissappear or make up a different excuse if/when Benson doesn't cut it. It's no different at all.Btw,NO ONE IS CLAIMING BENSON SUCKS BECAUSE OF ONE GAME. THIS IS HIS 3RD SEASON.
We all know its his 3rd season, but the first FULL season as a starter is what I'm basing my observations on. I'm giving CB a good 3-4 weeks to see what he can do. If he doesn't produce #2 RB #'s i'll bench him...
 
Finally a little defense of Benson

Cheap shots at Benson undeservedMike DowneyIn the wake of the newsSeptember 13, 2007Cedric Benson wore a crooked visor on his head and a puzzled look on his face Wednesday.Somebody had just told him that a San Diego Charger took a couple of cheap shots at him off the field, such as the Bears' running back would fold if you gave him a couple of clean shots on the field."What?" a wide-eyed Benson said.On a radio show, somebody explained.Benson's first instinct was to shrug it off."Some guy on the radio, hyping himself up. I don't care," he said. "It doesn't affect me."But it did bug him, the more he thought about it."I'll run that dude over any day," Benson said a while later. "If I met him in the hole? Any day."Respect is a difficult thing to come by in the NFL, and this is a guy who is struggling to gain his.There are those who already are saying the Bears should try a different running back in Sunday's game with Kansas City, which is absurd when you consider how many times Benson has been a starter this season.Once.There also are those who say the Bears obviously have erred in letting Thomas Jones go and giving his job to Benson, which is patently unfair when you consider how many times Benson has been a starter in his NFL career.Twice.It was bad enough when fantasy-league fanatics and media know-nothings began to pile on Benson before he had a fair chance to prove what he could do.But to have a pro peer such as San Diego linebacker Shaun Phillips (and any other Chargers who felt the same way as they prepared for last week's game) do a number on him, that's enough to get a Bear's goat."They don't know what they're talking about," said quarterback Rex Grossman, who doesn't rush to his own defense half as fast as he did Wednesday to his rusher's."Obviously, Cedric is one of the hardest runners in the league. I mean, how many times have you seen him come into the hole and knock somebody over? He broke somebody's ankle in Houston. He's a tough, tough running back."They don't know him. They've never seen him play before that. He's an extremely tough runner. He's going to have a great season, too. I just can't wait to see him get on a roll and have a breakout season."A week into this season, Benson is tied for 31st place among NFL backs in rushing yardage with 42 yards—tied with a New York Jet by the name of Thomas Jones.If somebody asked you to name the NFL's two top running backs, there is a chance you might go with LaDanian Tomlinson of the Chargers, whom the Bears faced last weekend, and Larry Johnson of the Chiefs, whom they face this weekend.Tomlinson gained 25 yards and ranks 50th among NFL backs after one week.Johnson gained 43 yards, exactly one more than Benson did."You're not going to go out there and get 100 yards every week," Benson said. "No matter who you are."If you expect the Bears to bench a starter every time he has a poor game, the Bears are going to run out of room on the bench.Everybody on that offense is at fault for that "3" on the visitors' side of the scoreboard in San Diego. One of the league's proudest offensive lines didn't have much to brag about after letting Grossman get hammered with some of the hardest hits of his life.Benson was less than impressive, yes."I was comfortable, but the pressure got to us after a while," he acknowledged. "I may have been frustrated a little bit at times."He fumbled, but so did Adrian Peterson, the man some people already want to replace Benson in the backfield.Tomlinson and Johnson didn't gain much yardage for their teams, but one poor outing for Benson and the sky is falling. Every time he or Grossman bobbles a ball, somebody out there wants to take them out of the game, and maybe out of the city and out of the state.Maybe a breakout game against the Chiefs would bring everybody back to his side."I hope so," Benson said.Then again, maybe even a breakout game wouldn't be enough for some people."Yeah, probably," Benson said. "It's only natural."It should have been a factor in his favor, as far as Bears fans were concerned, that the Chargers had one of the NFL's meanest defenses. But it wasn't.Nor will it be at Soldier Field in the home opener, even though the Chiefs' defense of a year ago was one of the league's best.You won't hear any Chiefs knocking the Bears before this game."You better have all your screws tightened up in your helmet when you play them," coach Herm Edwards said.Maybe that was the Chargers' problem. Maybe after knocking heads with the Bears they ended up with a couple of screws loose.It could explain why Phillips described the Chargers' strategy for Benson this way: "If you hit him a little bit, he can get a little disgruntled. And talk a little trash to him and give him a couple of shots, he'll fold."Benson resents this.He would like equal time. He would like a little more time to establish himself because, after all, this may be his 29th game in the NFL, but he has started only two.But you know Bears fans.Before a game was played, they wanted to bench the quarterback. Then a game was played and the Bears didn't win it, so now they want to bench the quarterback and the running back.Maybe if Benson gains 200 yards against the Chiefs and scores four touchdowns, they will consider letting him start Week 3.mikedowney@tribune.comCopyright © 2007, ChicagoSports.com
 
Oh my. Did anyone watch the Bears game last week without a preconceived idea (hatred) about Cedric Benson? Did anyone notice that the Chargers, and the Bears were stacking the box, and shadowing both RBs ALL game? Did anyone else notice that LT (who had a WORSE game rushing) and Cedric Benson both had NO ROOM TO RUN ALL DAY! ! ! Benson RAN VERY HARD and broke some tackles, contrary to what ALL the haters out there are saying!Based on the opinions I'm reading from this message board, Benson's value is apparently terribly low. If the Benson owner in your league feels the same way, TRADE FOR HIM BEFORE THE CHIEFS GAME! There is NO WAY Adrian Peterson takes his starting job (barring injury of course)!!!
We also noticed AP averaged 5.4 per carry while Cedric averaged 2.2 :hot:
Did you notice Turner got 4.1 YPC while LT averaged 1.4 YPC?
 

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