Benson Is Terrible (1 Viewer)

[Ryan_21]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

 

[mdog1967]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

 

[Notinuse]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

 

[Ryan_21]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

There is a difference between cant and wont. Do lovie smith and ron turner think that grieseball is peyton manning or something?

 

[mdog1967]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

The title of this thread is Benson Blows, so maybe you need to go some place else friend, maybe the Benson's a God thread seems more appropriate for you.

 

[matuski]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

Did you not read the thread title? That is the point... BENSON BLOWS!

 

[flapgreen]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

Did you not read the thread title? That is the point... BENSON BLOWS!

It's not his fault.

 

[Notinuse]

Maybe they should plug Hester in at RB

If there is a single Benson supporter left, I just want to call that guy "STUBBORN", you know its coming, their is going to be 2 or three "Steve Wonders" saying how good he is, its just the line, its Greise, its the defense its anything but Benson.

I believe UT alumni living in Midland, TX are about the only die hards left. And only a handful of those.

I don't know. There's some around here that will avoid admitting being wrong at all costs.

He's horrible. He threw 4 picks and only called 13 running plays for himself today.

And we have a winner folks, Maybe Chi Town QB's have to force the issue and throw picks because they know Benson will never, ever be able to carry the team. Man Has No Heart but you'll continue to sing his song. No Benson aint the only thing wrong with the Bears but he is NOT part of the solution. So you can continue to make cute little post there Ryan but there is no way anyone comes to any other conclusion than BENSON BLOWS.

Bensons 2nd half carries today: 8 yds, 12 yds, 1 yd.3 carries??? 7.0 YPC....yet only 3 carries in the 2nd half?Oh yeah, and Grieseball threw how many picks in the 2nd half? 3.You know why the Bears were so good a couple years ago with Orton at QB? Because they pounded the ball. Why do they suck this year? They dont pound the ball.

They can't pound the ball cause they dont have a Running Back!!! BENSON BLOWS

Thank you for your insightful posting in this thread, now make a point or get out.

The title of this thread is Benson Blows, so maybe you need to go some place else friend, maybe the Benson's a God thread seems more appropriate for you.

Ok, if you just want to rag on the guy (this applies to that other guy that posted after you too) without having anything to back up your point other than just saying "Benson Blows," I guess you can do that. Not sure why, unless you're a Bears fan or you own him in fantasy (or you're an idiot). Either way he's not the problem in CHI; he may not be the solution but honestly there aren't many backs that would be there at this point. You'd be talking ADP (the good one) or someone who can run well behind a terrible line and with a bad QB. And yes, obviously my earlier post suggested Benson is a god. That's clearly evident. Try reading more.

 

[mdog1967]

The title of this thread is Benson Blows, so maybe you need to go some place else friend, maybe the Benson's a God thread seems more appropriate for you.

Ok, if you just want to rag on the guy (this applies to that other guy that posted after you too) without having anything to back up your point other than just saying "Benson Blows," I guess you can do that. Not sure why, unless you're a Bears fan or you own him in fantasy (or you're an idiot). Either way he's not the problem in CHI; he may not be the solution but honestly there aren't many backs that would be there at this point. You'd be talking ADP (the good one) or someone who can run well behind a terrible line and with a bad QB.

And yes, obviously my earlier post suggested Benson is a god. That's clearly evident. Try reading more.

The back up the to the point is evident by Benson's:

1. Lack of Production

2. Running style

3. Lack of Heart, means he dont try to hard.

I read your post fine, anything short of Benson Blows is Benson is a god. He must be, otherwise there could not be a single post in this thread supporting the bum, yes bum. We dont need to go back over all the crying and pouting Benson has done the last few years. The best thing Benson had going for him was Tomas Jones, Jones kept the opposing defense honest and ran like he ment it, Benson was able to capitalize on Jones's efforts. Benson has never ran like he ment it. Even the poorest backs are going to get 10 yards plus on any single carry, every dog gets lucky. Benson will not be the starting tailback for CHI next year.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

 

[Notinuse]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

anyone think Peterson could see an increased workload after the bye week?

 

[Keith Lewis]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

 

[Notinuse]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

When I can't argue with a post I like to make one word replies too.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Someone else please defend this bum, It's the best comedy on the net.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

When I can't think of anything to say I like to make one word replies too.

Expand your answer on how good benson is and how he compares to the Shaun Alexander who scored 28 TDS in on season. And seriously dude, who is gonna argue with your

 

[Notinuse]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

When I can't think of anything to say I like to make one word replies too.

Expand your answer on how good benson is and how he compares to the Shaun Alexander who scored 28 TDS in on season.

I thought that was pretty evident in the post. SA wasn't a great runner then and he isn't now. He had a good line and a good offense to work with and they gave him all the goal line carries. Thus he posted really good stats and nobody was complaining.Benson has a terrible line, a terrible offense and the Bears never get close to the goal line so he doesn't score many TDs. Were he running behind a line with Jones and Hutchinson, with Hasselbeck as his QB, he would probably be a top rb statistically. As it is he has no chance.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

When I can't think of anything to say I like to make one word replies too.

Expand your answer on how good benson is and how he compares to the Shaun Alexander who scored 28 TDS in on season.

I thought that was pretty evident in the post. SA wasn't a great runner then and he isn't now. He had a good line and a good offense to work with and they gave him all the goal line carries. Thus he posted really good stats and nobody was complaining.Benson has a terrible line, a terrible offense and the Bears never get close to the goal line so he doesn't score many TDs. Were he running behind a line with Jones and Hutchinson, with Hasselbeck as his QB, he would probably be a top rb statistically. As it is he has no chance.

So you're saying if he played with Dallas in the 90's he'd have been better than Emmitt Smith?

 

[mad sweeney]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

So what you're saying is that, except for everything being different, he's the same as Alexander was during his Rushing Title and Runner Up years?

 

[flapgreen]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

 

[Notinuse]

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

One word: Wow

When I can't think of anything to say I like to make one word replies too.

Expand your answer on how good benson is and how he compares to the Shaun Alexander who scored 28 TDS in on season.

I thought that was pretty evident in the post. SA wasn't a great runner then and he isn't now. He had a good line and a good offense to work with and they gave him all the goal line carries. Thus he posted really good stats and nobody was complaining.Benson has a terrible line, a terrible offense and the Bears never get close to the goal line so he doesn't score many TDs. Were he running behind a line with Jones and Hutchinson, with Hasselbeck as his QB, he would probably be a top rb statistically. As it is he has no chance.

So you're saying if he played with Dallas in the 90's he'd have been better than Emmitt Smith?

I would love for you to explain where the hell you got this from. Show me where I mentioned Dallas, Emmitt Smith, or anything of that sort.The answer is no, because Smith was a good runner and he had a good line. That combination was enough to get him the all-time rushing record, or at least most of it. (over a bunch of years) I'm saying that good lines go a long way toward making good runners, and good runners can exist without good lines, and if you put the two together there will be success. (See: Addai, Joseph, as at least one example). Benson is not a good runner and he doesn't have a good line - but if he did, he would post good numbers. So you should be going after the line before you go after him, because - and I'll restate this - you will see greater improvement by upgrading the line than by upgrading the RB.

edit:

So what you're saying is that, except for everything being different, he's the same as Alexander was during his Rushing Title and Runner Up years?

Nope. He's probably worse than Alexander. But were he in the situation Alexander was in, he would post good statistics, or at least much better than what he's doing now. My point isn't that Benson is a good RB. My point is that you can do a lot more by fixing bigger issues with your team than by concentrating on one player who isn't the entire problem or even the biggest part of it. Go ahead, bring in a stud RB; the Bears will still lose because of the guy under center who throws 4 picks vs. the Lions D.

 

[dornado]

I thought Benson looked pretty good today. He did have a few drops. Then again, what do I know, I just watched the game.

 

[Keith Lewis]

My point isn't that Benson is a good RB.

Well, you're one step closer to admitting: Benson Blows!

 

[Keith Lewis]

I thought Benson looked pretty good today. He did have a few drops. Then again, what do I know, I just watched the game.

I watched it from start to finish, I thought he sucked, but what do I know.

 

[dornado]

I thought Benson looked pretty good today. He did have a few drops. Then again, what do I know, I just watched the game.

I watched it from start to finish, I thought he sucked, but what do I know.

He had a few nice runs, no?

 

[Notinuse]

My point isn't that Benson is a good RB.

Well, you're one step closer to admitting: Benson Blows!

I haven't changed my point at all. It goes a little farther than "durrrrr he sucks durrrrrrrr."

 

[Keith Lewis]

I thought Benson looked pretty good today. He did have a few drops. Then again, what do I know, I just watched the game.

I watched it from start to finish, I thought he sucked, but what do I know.

He had a few nice runs, no?

Even a blind squirrell finds a nut once in a while. What's up with his body language, stinks of loser to me.

 

[Keith Lewis]

My point isn't that Benson is a good RB.

Well, you're one step closer to admitting: Benson Blows!

I haven't changed my point at all. It goes a little farther than "durrrrr he sucks durrrrrrrr."

All aboard the Benson Bandwagon ===> :11:

 

[Notinuse]

I thought Benson looked pretty good today. He did have a few drops. Then again, what do I know, I just watched the game.

I watched it from start to finish, I thought he sucked, but what do I know.

He had a few nice runs, no?

Even a blind squirrell finds a nut once in a while. What's up with his body language, stinks of loser to me.

I have an idea, let's just write off anything good he does because it's clearly more evidence of him sucking. edit: see there you go with the "me saying benson isn't the worst rb in the history of the nfl" = "me saying benson is a really good rb" again

 

[Statcruncher]

Hehe, this has got to be a joke. Would a moderator please run a check on Notinuse? I'm guessing it's an Illinois IP address that belongs to Cedric himself or his momma. Those are the only 2 people I know delusional enough to type that stuff without laughing so hard they kick the computer cord out of the wall before being able to click Add Reply.

 

[Notinuse]

Hehe, this has got to be a joke. Would a moderator please run a check on Notinuse? I'm guessing it's an Illinois IP address that belongs to Cedric himself or his momma. Those are the only 2 people I know delusional enough to type that stuff without laughing so hard they kick the computer cord out of the wall before being able to click Add Reply.

Nice try. West Coast, Niners fan. So I know a lot about pathetic offenses. Hey, you know whose stats look like Benson's? Frank Gore. Benson = 58.25 rush yds/gameGore = 62.14 rush yds/gameHell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore. I guess Gore is a terrible RB, we should just ship him out of town. What a bum. Alex Smith? Trent Dilfer? The O-line? WRs? Defense? Nope, the reason the Niners are 2-5 is Frank Gore.

 

[Statcruncher]

Hell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore.

Dude, if your data mining is nothing better than a 1 day dataset you truly must be a Benson fan. Thanks for playing, enjoy the league championship that Benson carries you to. That roll of toilet paper will look great on your wall.

 

[Notinuse]

Hell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore.

Dude, if your data mining is nothing better than a 1 day dataset you truly must be a Benson fan. Thanks for playing, enjoy the league championship that Benson carries you to. That roll of toilet paper will look great on your wall.

Ok, the only significant difference is that Gore has about .8 more ypc over the course of this season (I know that's a lot but it's not totally night and day). Benson has had better games and worse games. Over the season, Benson has more yards (but slightly less per game, see the post above) and one less TD. But yet again you have missed the point entirely. I wasn't saying "Holy crap! Benson did better than Gore today so he's an all around better back than Gore and I LOVE BENSON AND I START HIM EVERY WEEK BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST RB IN THE NFL HRUHAURHRAGH." I was comparing the situations of Gore and Benson. Their numbers look very similar over the course of this year. YPC between 3 and 4, roughly the same amount of yards/tds, Gore's team is 2-5 while Benson's is 3-5. Yet Gore is given a "it's not his fault, it's the offense" pass on here while Benson is given the "this guy sucks and all the team's problems are his fault" treatment. What gives?

oh one other thing. I'm definitely not counting on him to win me any championships. I am 6-2 in that league though, no thanks to him and Shaun Alexander (my first two picks). At least Graham and Chatman are showing some promise. (16 team league btw so really thin at RBs. forgot to include this)

 

[Keith Lewis]

Hell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore.

Dude, if your data mining is nothing better than a 1 day dataset you truly must be a Benson fan. Thanks for playing, enjoy the league championship that Benson carries you to. That roll of toilet paper will look great on your wall.

Ok, the only significant difference is that Gore has about .8 more ypc over the course of this season (I know that's a lot but it's not totally night and day). Benson has had better games and worse games. Over the season, Benson has more yards (but slightly less per game, see the post above) and one less TD. But yet again you have missed the point entirely. I wasn't saying "Holy crap! Benson did better than Gore today so he's an all around better back than Gore and I LOVE BENSON AND I START HIM EVERY WEEK BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST RB IN THE NFL HRUHAURHRAGH." I was comparing the situations of Gore and Benson. Their numbers look very similar over the course of this year. YPC between 3 and 4, roughly the same amount of yards/tds, Gore's team is 2-5 while Benson's is 3-5. Yet Gore is given a "it's not his fault, it's the offense" pass on here while Benson is given the "this guy sucks and all the team's problems are his fault" treatment. What gives?

oh one other thing. I'm definitely not counting on him to win me any championships. I am 6-2 in that league though, no thanks to him and Shaun Alexander (my first two picks). At least Graham and Chatman are showing some promise.

Give it up and give it a rest, it's not even funny anymore.

 

[Notinuse]

Hell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore.

Dude, if your data mining is nothing better than a 1 day dataset you truly must be a Benson fan. Thanks for playing, enjoy the league championship that Benson carries you to. That roll of toilet paper will look great on your wall.

Ok, the only significant difference is that Gore has about .8 more ypc over the course of this season (I know that's a lot but it's not totally night and day). Benson has had better games and worse games. Over the season, Benson has more yards (but slightly less per game, see the post above) and one less TD. But yet again you have missed the point entirely. I wasn't saying "Holy crap! Benson did better than Gore today so he's an all around better back than Gore and I LOVE BENSON AND I START HIM EVERY WEEK BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST RB IN THE NFL HRUHAURHRAGH." I was comparing the situations of Gore and Benson. Their numbers look very similar over the course of this year. YPC between 3 and 4, roughly the same amount of yards/tds, Gore's team is 2-5 while Benson's is 3-5. Yet Gore is given a "it's not his fault, it's the offense" pass on here while Benson is given the "this guy sucks and all the team's problems are his fault" treatment. What gives?

oh one other thing. I'm definitely not counting on him to win me any championships. I am 6-2 in that league though, no thanks to him and Shaun Alexander (my first two picks). At least Graham and Chatman are showing some promise.

Give it up and give it a rest, it's not even funny anymore.

I love these one liner no content replies so I thought I'd make one of my own.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

You dont need stats to prove that benson was a wasted pick. Even the game announcers were mentioning how benson never seems to break any tackles. He makes no more, just blows forward until he hits something then drops like a stone. benson always gets pissy when compared to ricky, but he'd be lucky to ever be 1/4 the runner ricky was in his prime. put the stats away and watch the games. when a 8 yard hole is opened, does he get 8 yards or 20? All he gets is whatever the o-line provided for him.

 

[Notinuse]

You dont need stats to prove that benson was a wasted pick. Even the game announcers were mentioning how benson never seems to break any tackles. He makes no more, just blows forward until he hits something then drops like a stone. benson always gets pissy when compared to ricky, but he'd be lucky to ever be 1/4 the runner ricky was in his prime. put the stats away and watch the games. when a 8 yard hole is opened, does he get 8 yards or 20? All he gets is whatever the o-line provided for him.

Truth here. No way was he worth an early first round pick and he's pretty dependent on his line.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Simple WDIS - Benson vs. DET, Graham vs. JAX, Ward at MIA (in England). I have Graham going right now because I hate Benson but if this is the week he breaks out I'm going to feel stupid. Standard scoring, 10 yds/1 pt, td = 6.

Is this a good deal? 16 team, redraft, straight up RB trade - Cedric Benson for Sammy Morris. My other RBs are Shaun Alexander, Earnest Graham, Jesse Chatman, and Derrick Ward.

The funny thing is in your 2nd one, you are aware of Morris injury at that point, this is a redraft too. Good grief, just stop it already.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Another one in topic "Benson OK?, Banged up knee, but finished game. Just asking."

I hope he gets knocked out for the year so I can just cut him outright.

 

[Notinuse]

Simple WDIS - Benson vs. DET, Graham vs. JAX, Ward at MIA (in England). I have Graham going right now because I hate Benson but if this is the week he breaks out I'm going to feel stupid. Standard scoring, 10 yds/1 pt, td = 6.

Is this a good deal? 16 team, redraft, straight up RB trade - Cedric Benson for Sammy Morris. My other RBs are Shaun Alexander, Earnest Graham, Jesse Chatman, and Derrick Ward.

The funny thing is in your 2nd one, you are aware of Morris injury at that point, this is a redraft too. Good grief, just stop it already.

Let's see. The first one, I started Graham, dropped Ward (needed a 3rd WR cause of byes), benched Benson. Good decision there - not because Benson did terribly on the plays that were run for him but because he didn't get the total yards. If he'd gotten 20+ carries he would have had a good day statistically. The second one... yeah, there's no way I'd be trying to get him for a playoff run because Benson has horrible matchups in the last few weeks (NOR is okay but MIN/GB before that) and Morris has great ones (NYJ/MIA/NYG). No way at all. Plus Morris is on a team that scores 40 points a week and was getting goal line carries before he went down... plus a couple 100 yard games in there with Maroney out. Basically an upside trade and I don't exactly need Benson at this point (also the deal was with my friend in that league and it'll help him out cause he has Henry who's going to get suspended soon). I don't know what you're trying to prove. Did I say in this thread that he's going to be really good this year? Do my decisions in a fantasy football league - ESPECIALLY a redraft because my point is that he's not going to be good this year because of his line/qb - somehow affect what my opinion is here? Try harder.edit: uh oh! you're really going through my post history! i better cut and run...just kidding. At the point when I posted that last one, I had a roster full of people that I didn't really want to cut because they were a cut above those on waivers or I was saving them for later in the year, but I needed a 3rd WR and a kicker because of byes. I ended up cutting Ward and Javon Walker. But if Benson had been out for the year, I could have cut him for roster space.No I don't think he's going to put up good stats this year which is why I want him off my team. The issue here is whether that's his fault or not. I'm saying that mostly, it isn't.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Simple WDIS - Benson vs. DET, Graham vs. JAX, Ward at MIA (in England). I have Graham going right now because I hate Benson but if this is the week he breaks out I'm going to feel stupid. Standard scoring, 10 yds/1 pt, td = 6.

Is this a good deal? 16 team, redraft, straight up RB trade - Cedric Benson for Sammy Morris. My other RBs are Shaun Alexander, Earnest Graham, Jesse Chatman, and Derrick Ward.

The funny thing is in your 2nd one, you are aware of Morris injury at that point, this is a redraft too. Good grief, just stop it already.

Let's see. The first one, I started Graham, dropped Ward (needed a 3rd WR cause of byes), benched Benson. Good decision there - not because Benson did terribly on the plays that were run for him but because he didn't get the total yards. If he'd gotten 20+ carries he would have had a good day statistically. The second one... yeah, there's no way I'd be trying to get him for a playoff run because Benson has horrible matchups in the last few weeks (NOR is okay but MIN/GB before that) and Morris has great ones (NYJ/MIA/NYG). No way at all. Plus Morris is on a team that scores 40 points a week and was getting goal line carries before he went down... plus a couple 100 yard games in there with Maroney out. Basically an upside trade and I don't exactly need Benson at this point (also the deal was with my friend in that league and it'll help him out cause he has Henry who's going to get suspended soon). I don't know what you're trying to prove. Did I say in this thread that he's going to be really good this year? Do my decisions in a fantasy football league - ESPECIALLY a redraft because my point is that he's not going to be good this year because of his line/qb - somehow affect what my opinion is here? Try harder.

 

[Notinuse]

Simple WDIS - Benson vs. DET, Graham vs. JAX, Ward at MIA (in England). I have Graham going right now because I hate Benson but if this is the week he breaks out I'm going to feel stupid. Standard scoring, 10 yds/1 pt, td = 6.

Is this a good deal? 16 team, redraft, straight up RB trade - Cedric Benson for Sammy Morris. My other RBs are Shaun Alexander, Earnest Graham, Jesse Chatman, and Derrick Ward.

The funny thing is in your 2nd one, you are aware of Morris injury at that point, this is a redraft too. Good grief, just stop it already.

Let's see. The first one, I started Graham, dropped Ward (needed a 3rd WR cause of byes), benched Benson. Good decision there - not because Benson did terribly on the plays that were run for him but because he didn't get the total yards. If he'd gotten 20+ carries he would have had a good day statistically. The second one... yeah, there's no way I'd be trying to get him for a playoff run because Benson has horrible matchups in the last few weeks (NOR is okay but MIN/GB before that) and Morris has great ones (NYJ/MIA/NYG). No way at all. Plus Morris is on a team that scores 40 points a week and was getting goal line carries before he went down... plus a couple 100 yard games in there with Maroney out. Basically an upside trade and I don't exactly need Benson at this point (also the deal was with my friend in that league and it'll help him out cause he has Henry who's going to get suspended soon). I don't know what you're trying to prove. Did I say in this thread that he's going to be really good this year? Do my decisions in a fantasy football league - ESPECIALLY a redraft because my point is that he's not going to be good this year because of his line/qb - somehow affect what my opinion is here? Try harder.

OK, this is some excellent posting here. Reasonable explanations and I get your one line posting of "haha benson blows you're an idiot," some off-topic response that may also be a strawman ("SO BECAUSE YOU THINK HE IS SIMILAR TO SHAUN ALEXANDER HE WOULD DO BETTER THAN EMMITT SMITH ON THE '90S COWBOYS", wtf) or an emoticon reply. Plus you seem to miss the point on nearly every one of my posts.

 

[Keith Lewis]

I own both of these guys in a redraft league, and I think that you're looking at a very short-term future for both. Alexander has looked bad this year and appears to be over the hill - he'll have some good games, but he won't be anything more than RB2 level for the next few years and it wouldn't surprise me if he was gone soon after. He's not explosive and his team isn't doing him any favors; they're falling apart around him. Positives for Alexander - Good stats when the offense around him is good (see: first 4 weeks)Negatives - terrible when offense is bad (see: last 2 weeks); will get worse with timeBenson looks like Alexander except he's young. That's worrisome, because it says to me he doesn't have much of a future unless he gets an excellent O-line and decent QB. SA had that for a few years and he was king of RBs. It doesn't look like Chicago will have that any time soon, and Benson will probably play himself out of the job before then. Positives for Benson - Decent stats with decent offense, youngNegatives - his offense sucks, and it won't be an easy fix; could end up costing himself the job due to failure to create playsI don't like either of these guys. I'd take Alexander for this year, maybe next year too, but I'd take Benson after that; but the chances are that neither of them will be worth a roster spot by then (maybe low end RB2s). You taking this depends on if you think the Bears can get their act together on offense sometime in the near future.

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

Contradict yourself much?

 

[Notinuse]

I own both of these guys in a redraft league, and I think that you're looking at a very short-term future for both. Alexander has looked bad this year and appears to be over the hill - he'll have some good games, but he won't be anything more than RB2 level for the next few years and it wouldn't surprise me if he was gone soon after. He's not explosive and his team isn't doing him any favors; they're falling apart around him.

Positives for Alexander - Good stats when the offense around him is good (see: first 4 weeks)

Negatives - terrible when offense is bad (see: last 2 weeks); will get worse with time

Benson looks like Alexander except he's young. That's worrisome, because it says to me he doesn't have much of a future unless he gets an excellent O-line and decent QB. SA had that for a few years and he was king of RBs. It doesn't look like Chicago will have that any time soon, and Benson will probably play himself out of the job before then.

Positives for Benson - Decent stats with decent offense, young

Negatives - his offense sucks, and it won't be an easy fix; could end up costing himself the job due to failure to create plays

I don't like either of these guys. I'd take Alexander for this year, maybe next year too, but I'd take Benson after that; but the chances are that neither of them will be worth a roster spot by then (maybe low end RB2s). You taking this depends on if you think the Bears can get their act together on offense sometime in the near future.

Notinuse and Ryan21: Breaking news alert... BENSON BLOWS!!!

You guys still defending this piece of garbage is hiliarious. Keep it up, we're not laughing "with you".

I have to assume that you're all bitter Bears fans or something. I am not a Bears fan but I do own Benson in my main league. He was my second round pick. So I've been following him and his situation closely, and I can say with confidence exactly what I said earlier: He's not a special RB by any means. He's not LT, ADP, SJax, or anyone who can create plays on his own. The best comparison I can give for him would be Shaun Alexander (before this year) or Lendale White. Both of those guys have very similar styles to Benson (although White tends to keep going after first contact). The difference between Benson and those guys is that Benson is on a terrible team.

Think of a few years ago when SA was running behind Jones/Hutchinson and was the consensus best RB in the league. That is where Benson is at now. The difference is that Benson has a terrible O-line instead of a great one and a terrible QB instead of a good one, and the difference in production is huge.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that great systems/situations will produce great RBs most of the time, but great RBs don't need a great system/situation to be good. If Benson got shipped out to Denver or Indy and made a starter he would be a top 5 RB, but it wouldn't be him that changed, it would be his situation. Similarly if the Bears somehow got LT, ADP, or another stud RB then maybe they would have some production from the RB position. But that's not happening, and you have to accept that sometimes your team's RB isn't going to be one of the best ones in the league, so you try to put everything else in place to help him, like getting O-line help or a new QB. Then if he still sucks you dump him.

My point, overall, is that calling for Benson's head isn't going to do you any good and, even if he was replaced, the difference in production would be minimal compared to what you could get by upgrading the offensive line or getting a QB who can play professional football. Why you're focusing on a guy who averaged almost 4 ypc today (not bad) instead of the guy who threw 4 picks and fumbled, I have no idea, but it does show certain levels of impatience, stupidity, whatever you want to call it. He's not good, but you have worse - go for them first.

Contradict yourself much?

No?I'm seeing the same basic points in both of those posts. Does this sound familiar to you, yes or no:

Benson looks like Alexander except he's young. That's worrisome, because it says to me he doesn't have much of a future unless he gets an excellent O-line and decent QB. SA had that for a few years and he was king of RBs. It doesn't look like Chicago will have that any time soon, and Benson will probably play himself out of the job before then.

Positives for Benson - Decent stats with decent offense, young

Negatives - his offense sucks, and it won't be an easy fix; could end up costing himself the job due to failure to create plays

I don't like either of these guys. I'd take Alexander for this year, maybe next year too, but I'd take Benson after that; but the chances are that neither of them will be worth a roster spot by then (maybe low end RB2s). You taking this depends on if you think the Bears can get their act together on offense sometime in the near future.

Because that looks about identical to me. The reason I don't like Benson for fantasy football purposes at this point is because of people like you who see him as the whole problem with the Bears; he'll get run out of town before he can prove himself, because he's not a playmaker like LT or ADP; he's a serviceable RB who will do well if he gets a good offensive line but won't do well otherwise. This is similar to SA; sure he's lost a step over the last couple of years, but the downgrade in his statistics is mostly because Hutchinson isn't on that team anymore. This feels like I'm repeating myself, here.

 

[gianmarco]

Hehe, this has got to be a joke. Would a moderator please run a check on Notinuse? I'm guessing it's an Illinois IP address that belongs to Cedric himself or his momma. Those are the only 2 people I know delusional enough to type that stuff without laughing so hard they kick the computer cord out of the wall before being able to click Add Reply.

Nice try. West Coast, Niners fan. So I know a lot about pathetic offenses. Hey, you know whose stats look like Benson's? Frank Gore. Benson = 58.25 rush yds/gameGore = 62.14 rush yds/gameHell, Benson had a better ypc (and yards) today than Gore. I guess Gore is a terrible RB, we should just ship him out of town. What a bum. Alex Smith? Trent Dilfer? The O-line? WRs? Defense? Nope, the reason the Niners are 2-5 is Frank Gore.

To make this post almost screams that you've never watched either of these guys play. Just because Gore's stats are currently as dismal as Benson's does not in any way make them comparable. If you've watched either guy play that would be clearly obvious. The reason people aren't bashing Gore despite his horrible #'s is that he clearly is a talented back that is indeed suffering because of what's going on around him. Benson, on the other hand, just isn't that talented and will soon become a career NFL backup RB. Guarantee if you put Gore in Chicago right now, Chicago starts ripping off wins and Gore's #'s go through the roof. Want to know what happens if you send Benson to SF? I don't want to know, but it wouldn't be pretty.

 

[mdog1967]

Did I mention that BENSON BLOWS!!

 

[Brutis]

Did I mention that BENSON BLOWS!!

I agree!! 13 carries for 50 yards is absolutely horrible!! he should've atleast managed 100 yards with those 13 carries.If only the Bears had a decent RB, they would no doubt be undefeated right now.

 

[gianmarco]

Did I mention that BENSON BLOWS!!

I agree!! 13 carries for 50 yards is absolutely horrible!! he should've atleast managed 100 yards with those 13 carries.If only the Bears had a decent RB, they would no doubt be undefeated right now.

The reason it's absolutely horrible is that it was one of his better games. And it was the Lions.

 

[Sopranos]

Well in a PPR dynasty where it is almost impossible to get a RB, we start 3. I had to turn down Evans,Foster for Benson and C Davis WR SD. I just cant do it. Foster is outscoring him and Evans has a great future..I just wish it was now. I just dont know if Benson is the starter in Chi for the net 2-3 years, he doesnt look to be. At this point A Peterson should be splitting carries 50/50 IMO

 

[Rushmore]

This is the first time I've clicked on this thread...This cracks me up because I don't think I'll ever be able to see or hear the name Benson without thinking of the words Benson Blows because of always seeing this thread bumped on the front page.

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