what do they put in Diet soda to replace the sugar?How does diet soda contribute to the obesity issue?
what do they put in Diet soda to replace the sugar?How does diet soda contribute to the obesity issue?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/07/1044010141/diet-soda-may-prompt-food-cravings-especially-in-women-and-people-with-obesityHow does diet soda contribute to the obesity issue?
Yep, even notice new emojis on my phone of guys with large belly’s.most of America is not only fat, but obese
and its bad to talk about how to fix it
Its almost the exact make makeup of sucrose and fructose, so the answer it it isn't any different.How is it any different than regular sugar?
Hey @Joe Bryant, put this on your next update list.Yep, even notice new emojis on my phone of guys with large belly’s.
The amount of salt they add seems more dubious to me than olive oil or even butter.It's basically every cooking show. Whether it's butter or olive oil, I'm amazed how much these cooking shows add to their food. They'll say they are adding a tablespoon of oil, then proceed to add 3+. It's easy to add hundreds of extra empty calories into a meal with oils.
Agreed. I grew up on healthy food and while I still had a sweet tooth, that seems to have faded in adulthood. It's not weight concerns that make me prefer healthy food. I just don't find fast food to taste good. I enjoy real burgers but not whatever is currently being served at McDonalds. And I have the opposite problem of most overweight people. I have been counting calories these last few months and was hitting 5,000 most days. Gained a little muscle and some belly fat but that's quickly burning away now that my food source has become restricted and I'm only getting 3,500 a day. I can sympathize with the slow metabolism people but I would still prefer that over a fast metabolism.It is a mindset. I have been working out steady since I have been 19-20. So right away I was interested in eating the best I could with whatever money I had. Since then, it in ingrained into me every meal I eat I decide if this is good for me or not. Once you break the sugar-junk habit you really never want it or crave it. I can sit with people all around me eating junk and not want it.
Of course there are times when I will eat stuff I know is not good but for the most part it is 80% really good, 15 % not so good and 5% really not so good.
The 5% really bad usually come after drinking. After drinking nothing better than Taco Bell or a burger joint with fries. Then the next day I get back on track.
Apparently, he went from 465 pounds to 185. I've read that complete fasting can be better for the body than restricting calories. The idea was something like when you cut calories, your body will continue to consume glucose and muscle, whereas after a couple days of 0 calories you will enter ketosis and burn fat.For 382 days ending on 11 July 1966, he consumed only vitamins, electrolytes, an unspecified amount of yeast (a source of all essential amino acids) and zero-calorie beverages such as tea, coffee, and sparkling water, although he occasionally consumed small amounts of milk and/or sugar with the beverages, especially during the final weeks of the fast.
Well, you were definitely not getting it rightIs being obese or overweight and unfit a choice? When I've been motivated enough at stages in my life, I've been very fit. At other stages, I've been much less so. During my adult life I've weighed 245 (age 21), 200-215 (age 25-38), 190 after a divorce 9 years ago and back up to 245 again last summer. Down to 230 and hoping to get back to 205 or so to keep my knees from getting destroyed on the hikes I have planned. 45 left on my list.
In my experience, I guess it is a choice but it's a harder choice to make than it should be. The big question is... why is it so hard? What kept me drinking 4 PBRs and having a bowl of ice cream every night? I don't know.
Seems like, as a society we're not getting this one right.
While I agree we’ve collectively embraced comfort (and convenience) too much, it’s easy to adapt to suffering. The tougher part is avoiding excess unhealthy food and drink, and social pressure to indulge.I've been thinking a good bit about this lately as I need to lose about 15 pounds.
I'm 6'0" and 210 and feel better when I'm around 195.
My best friend just did something similar where he lost 20 pounds and he's about my size. He's an MD and we were talking about it this week.
He said, "Everyone asks me how I did it? Less carbs? Less sugar? Less fat? My answer is 'yes'".
He said he just simply ate less food.
Then he said, "Nobody wants to hear it. But the truth is I was hungry a lot of the time.".
In other words, he was uncomfortable a good bit of the time. And we don't do that well.
This 100%. But people wanna dig their heels in, and insist they can’t do without all the unhealthy stuff, before they even try the alternatives.After one cleans up the diet for a while, a lot of the unhealthy stuff doesn’t taste as good as one remembers. Some of the good stuff can even taste better. I actually like the flavor of celery these days.
There is definitely something wrong with salt. It won’t make you fat, but it’s a big contributor to high blood pressure.There's nothing wrong with salt. Not even in the same universe as sugar in terms of the contribution to obesity.
You think life is more stressful today than 100 years ago?Stress. Lots and lots of stress.
I bet if you asked FBG what constitutes a healthy diet, you’d get a bunch of different answers. While everybody knows fruits/veggies are good and heavily processed foods are bad, nutrition advice is all over the map for most everything else.I don't think the ignorance is willful. People believe those foods are good because they've been told they're good their whole lives. They ate them at home as kids, were fed them at school, watched commercials that passed them off as healthy.
The amount of terrible nutrition info I took in as a kid is staggering. I grew up thinking pizza was great for you because it covered all four food groups. Nobody told me how to make sense of a nutritional label or see through marketing BS. And the more I learn about what's actually healthy, the more I realize how few people really understand what they're eating.
I bet if you asked FBG what constitutes a healthy diet, you’d get a bunch of different answers. While everybody knows fruits/veggies are good and heavily processed foods are bad, nutrition advice is all over the map for most everything else.
Not sure or was mentioned later (haven't read the rest of the thread) but tobacco use was way higher back then. The nicotine can curb hunger, raise metabolism, and gives people something to put in their mouths besides food.But assuming that folks were slimmer across the board in the 70s and 80s, I don’t think they were any less comfortable were they? So what was the difference? More physical activity then versus now? Perhaps. Easier access to a wider range of unhealthy food options now versus back then? I’d say that’s likely. But I’d be willing to bet that the biggest difference is a change in portion size then versus now.
While I agree we’ve collectively embraced comfort (and convenience) too much, it’s easy to adapt to suffering. The tougher part is avoiding excess unhealthy food and drink, and social pressure to indulge.
I've been thinking a good bit about this lately as I need to lose about 15 pounds.
I'm 6'0" and 210 and feel better when I'm around 195.
My best friend just did something similar where he lost 20 pounds and he's about my size. He's an MD and we were talking about it this week.
He said, "Everyone asks me how I did it? Less carbs? Less sugar? Less fat? My answer is 'yes'".
He said he just simply ate less food.
Then he said, "Nobody wants to hear it. But the truth is I was hungry a lot of the time.".
In other words, he was uncomfortable a good bit of the time. And we don't do that well.
YesYou think life is more stressful today than 100 years ago?
Hard to weigh in here because I consider myself pretty lucky. I can eat what I want when I want and have generally stayed in decent shape. I feel for those that can't.
I also agree completely with the concept that controlling portion size is a good first step.
And while there certainly are musclebound 6 foot guys who weight 210, than doesn’t describe most of the population, especially middle aged dudes in the FBG demographic. The upper end of a healthy weight for them is more like ~180. If you go by BMI, the range is 137-183.
Yep. All it takes is a single trip to a grocery store, movie theater, bar, or anyplace else where people gather to see that the modal US adult is not carved out of granite like a middle linebacker. Most guys who are 6' flat and 200+ are probably carrying around some extra weight that they could do without.And while there certainly are musclebound 6 foot guys who weight 210, than doesn’t describe most of the population, especially middle aged dudes in the FBG demographic. The upper end of a healthy weight for them is more like ~180. If you go by BMI, the range is 137-183.
Eating less food is not a path to successful dieting. It can bo done, but if you are constantly hungry, most people are not going to stick with it. Eat more vegetables is really the way to go.I've been thinking a good bit about this lately as I need to lose about 15 pounds.
I'm 6'0" and 210 and feel better when I'm around 195.
My best friend just did something similar where he lost 20 pounds and he's about my size. He's an MD and we were talking about it this week.
He said, "Everyone asks me how I did it? Less carbs? Less sugar? Less fat? My answer is 'yes'".
He said he just simply ate less food.
Then he said, "Nobody wants to hear it. But the truth is I was hungry a lot of the time.".
In other words, he was uncomfortable a good bit of the time. And we don't do that well.
I’m slowly shifting to a more legume heavy diet. I think people would have a lot of success that way too.Eating less food is not a path to successful dieting. It can bo done, but if you are constantly hungry, most people are not going to stick with it. Eat more vegetables is really the way to go.
https://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/08/21/slankers-grass-fed-meats-the-real-diet-of-man-is-very-simple/Eating less food is not a path to successful dieting. It can bo done, but if you are constantly hungry, most people are not going to stick with it. Eat more vegetables is really the way to go.
Eating less food is not a path to successful dieting. It can bo done, but if you are constantly hungry, most people are not going to stick with it. Eat more vegetables is really the way to go.
Ok, I disagree.
Yea, we are talking about the average person. Not you or professional athletes. The average person who is 6-1 and 210 is overweight.The BMI takes the average person who has very little muscle mass. I am 6-1 212 and have visible abs. There is no way I could lose 20lbs.
Basically every pro athlete would be obese by BMI index.
I agree with this. When I get into a habit of restricting calories and eating the right things its alot easier when its actually a habit, doing the same or similar things each week. Then I can take sucking it up and grinding it out. What gets me into trouble is when I go off plan, usually with work travel, and indulge because I'm travelling with someone and have a few beers or feel like I have to try out new places and foods everywhere I go.While I agree we’ve collectively embraced comfort (and convenience) too much, it’s easy to adapt to suffering. The tougher part is avoiding excess unhealthy food and drink, and social pressure to indulge.
How does diet soda contribute to the obesity issue?
It's not just about the food, it's the lack of exercise and sedentary lifestyle.
Yea, we are talking about the average person. Not you or professional athletes. The average person who is 6-1 and 210 is overweight.
It's not easy (hence the name). Actually took me around 90-days as I got sick 2-weeks in the first time and couldn't do 2 workouts a day. Lost like 25 lbs in that time and was in tremendous shape afterwards, but it is unsustainable for the long-term.Hadn't heard of this before, sounds interesting.
What prehistoric man ate has no relevance to the most healthy diet.https://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/08/21/slankers-grass-fed-meats-the-real-diet-of-man-is-very-simple/
The true diet of man is incredibly simple. It does not involve calorie counting, fat measuring, and portion control. There is no such thing as different foods for young people, pregnant women, middle aged people, and old people. There’s absolutely no variation for blood type, sex, skin color, hair color, tall people, short people, hard working people, couch potatoes, or one’s location. And the diet is the same for healthy people as it is for people burdened with chronic diseases such as cancer, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, lupus, asthma, allergies, obesity, mental disorders, and on and on.
Anthropologists tell us that about 60% of early man’s food was meat – and it was only grass-fed meat (meat from animals never fed grain). Meat was followed by vegetables (for instance spinach, kale, collards, beet greens, romaine lettuce, etc. followed by broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, etc.). Then, since they were seasonal, in very minor amounts there were some nuts and tart fruits (such as tomatoes, squash, berries, small apples, and the tiny wild fruits such as persimmons and wild plums we sometimes find when hiking in the woods). Sure, at times man also lucked out and had some honey.
As for dairy, well modern man is the only beast on earth that figures he needs milk past weaning. In fact, dairy is one of man’s most recent agricultural inventions. So all of this nonsense about drinking milk for strong bones and teeth is mythology. It really doesn’t matter if milk is raw or not. It’s flat out unnecessary post weaning. To make matters worse, nearly all diary products available today are from grain-fed cows and goats.
your point #2 is ignorantWhat prehistoric man ate has no relevance to the most healthy diet.
Grass ded beef is not significantly different chemically to grain fed.
This seems a bit harsh.your point #2 is ignorant
there is no hope for you if you think grass fed beef is the sane as grain fed, chemically enhanced, anitbiotic infused "meat"
There are countless examples of people that drink diet sodas and lose weight.
Objectively, I can't imagine life is more stressful today. But our coping skills (definitely mine) are likely worse than our ancestors, which could lead us to experience more stress. Also, an overall easier life with more safety nets has lead to less selective breeding. It's no longer survival of the fittest.You think life is more stressful today than 100 years ago?
Nobody is arguing that cravings cause weight gain on their own. It what cravings can lead to. It’s indirect.Do they increase cravings? I mean, who the heck knows. But cravings don't cause you to gain weight either.