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Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.

 
The more I think about it the more i think that maybe the law should go through. If I were gay, I'd rather know up front who the bigot business owners are so that I could easily avoid them. Otherwise, if those businesses are forced to serve people that they despise, I run the risk of getting served tainted food/flowers/whatever.
You think that doesn't go on with virtually every demographic? If you've eaten out and your server disliked you for any reason, you've been at risk for this very thing.

I get the sense that gay folks would like their government to recognize them as equals to everyone else and not endorse discrimination.
Yeah I know it's technically a step back in terms of equality and i'm not entirely serious but still, if the law went through you just know that every bible thumping pizzeria owner wouldn't be able to resist plastering the windows of their business with "We dont serve gays" signs making it much easier to avoid the #######s.

 
The more I think about it the more i think that maybe the law should go through. If I were gay, I'd rather know up front who the bigot business owners are so that I could easily avoid them. Otherwise, if those businesses are forced to serve people that they despise, I run the risk of getting served tainted food/flowers/whatever.
You think that doesn't go on with virtually every demographic? If you've eaten out and your server disliked you for any reason, you've been at risk for this very thing.I get the sense that gay folks would like their government to recognize them as equals to everyone else and not endorse discrimination.
Yeah I know it's technically a step back in terms of equality and i'm not entirely serious but still, if the law went through you just know that every bible thumping pizzeria owner wouldn't be able to resist plastering the windows of their business with "We dont serve gays" signs making it much easier to avoid the #######s.
From my perspective it would be great, but I'm just a hetero who dislikes bigots. I imagine the actual target of the discrimination would feel a bit different.

Like I said somewhere above, this legislation is little more than "separate but equal" mentality. You serve the homos, that guy serves the Hebs, I'm just serving straight white Christians. God bless Murica! Love it or leave it!

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.
Without a doubt. There's probably a fair amount of incredulity they have to get past first. "HOW much did people give us? You're ####ting me."

It's no frigging wonder that Nigerian Prince scam has been an ongoing thing for years.

 
Are there any obscenity laws or anything that would prevent someone from starting a pizza chain called **** Pizza that serves nothing but pizzas shaped like #####? Asking for a friend.

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.
I'm sure it will too. Like rebuilding their business after it was destroyed by a bunch of PC and we-talk-about-tolerance-but-were-not-so-tolerant-after-all jackasses.

 
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Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
This is just schtick/ trolling, right?
Of course it is. Consider the source. I'm amazed that people continue to read and respond to this guy. If there was ever a better time to utilize the ignore feature, I haven't seen it.
Not familiar with his work.

Will avoid

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
This is just schtick/ trolling, right?
Of course it is. Consider the source. I'm amazed that people continue to read and respond to this guy. If there was ever a better time to utilize the ignore feature, I haven't seen it.
Not familiar with his work.

Will avoid
Come on now, I'm a really nice guy. :(

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
This is just schtick/ trolling, right?
Of course it is. Consider the source. I'm amazed that people continue to read and respond to this guy. If there was ever a better time to utilize the ignore feature, I haven't seen it.
Not familiar with his work.Will avoid
Come on now, I'm a really nice guy*. :(
*as long as you're white and straight.

 
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?

 
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
I believe it was meant to prevent state and local governments from targeting individuals for lawsuits based on actions they took practicing their religion.

 
Of all people, i was surprised that Rick Santorum gave a thoughtful answer to this question. Here's part of a transcript from last night on the Hugh Hewitt show;

HH: Now the famous cases are the baker, the photographer and the florist. And I have told everyone, in Hewitt’s world, the baker should sell the cake, the photographer should definitely not have to be forced to photograph the wedding, and I’m not sure about the florist because of facts and circumstances. That’s how RFRA works. That’s how the compelling state interest works. That’s what happens here. What, in Rick Santorum’s world, on the baker, the photographer and the florist, what do you think?

RS: Well, here’s what I think. I think that people should have, it’s the old test that we’ve used in the past. If they’re the only baker in town, they should bake the cake. If there’s someone, if they have a, if someone has a ferry service onto an island, and that’s where the wedding is, and you’re the only way to get to that island, there’s no road to the island, well, you’ve got to provide the service. But if the person has other opportunities to go other places, my feeling is that people shouldn’t be forced to participate in a ceremony that violates their religious tenets and teachings. Now you’re right. The cake baker is the most attenuated, and probably has the hardest argument to make. The photographer has the easiest argument to make. But I think in a world where have true tolerance, and we allow people to live their faith in their jobs, then I think we allow space for everybody unless there’s a compelling interest not to.

HH: Yeah, but in this world, we had two hotels, and of course, the advocates of same sex marriage argue that we had two hotels during the era of Jim Crow, and that didn’t hold up. So two bakers, they both ought to be obliged to bake.

RS: Well, I don’t know, it’s a different story. I mean, the baker, in my opinion, should absolutely serve anybody who comes into their hotel or restaurant or bakery, irrespective of what the color of their skin or their sexual orientation. That’s different than participating in a ceremony where you have a religious objection to it. So it’s not the who that you’re serving, it’s what you’re serving, what you’re serving for.

Now i'm still not sure I agree with what Rick is saying here, but it's a legitimate argument, not bigoted IMO.

 
Are there any obscenity laws or anything that would prevent someone from starting a pizza chain called **** Pizza that serves nothing but pizzas shaped like #####? Asking for a friend.
I appreciate your discretion, but I've decided I'm just going to move forward with my plans for **** Pizza.

 
Are there any obscenity laws or anything that would prevent someone from starting a pizza chain called **** Pizza that serves nothing but pizzas shaped like #####? Asking for a friend.
I appreciate your discretion, but I've decided I'm just going to move forward with my plans for **** Pizza.
You should name your pizza sizes the extra large ****, the large ****, the average ****, etc. You would make a killing. Nobody would come in and order anything smaller than the large.
 
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A bakery in Arizona is facing a religious discrimination complaint after refusing to comply with a customers order to decorate a cake shaped like a Bible with the words God hates gays and an image of two men holding hands with an X over it. What do you think?



A homemade anti-gay cake is more meaningful anyway.

Susan Brady

Freelance Blogger



It looks like cakes arent the bastion of free speech they once were.

Connor Lucas

Charter School Comparer



I would have wanted a piece with the X.

Doug Stacky

Unemployed

I get your point. I think that, much like when you get to know people on this board, it becomes surprising to hear both the authors and commenters undergo a significant cultural change when it comes to this stuff. My point is not to present their views as authority. It's to present what looks to be a sea change in the thinking of the authors and commenters. Gay marriage vs. the non-recognition of all marriage is hotly debated, and if a certain intellectual segment of the population determines one of those to be more palatable to those seeking liberty, then it becomes relevant to this board and this law, IMO.
That article was satire from The Onion.com
Yeah, I kind of knew the "man on the street" take was satire in some form. Didn't know the Onion did it, but it doesn't surprise me.

 
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
I believe it was meant to prevent state and local governments from targeting individuals for lawsuits based on actions they took practicing their religion.
I think the intent is to take it even further -- to prevent unintended discriminatory results from non-discrimatory laws. Seems like I remember a case involving a church that wanted to expand but couldn't because their building was on a historical registry. A balancing test was explicitly adopted to test outcomes in specific cases if I'm remembering right. Regardless the regulated conduct was government conduct, not private conduct.

 
$817,000. That's alot of pizza.
Kind of ironic that a group of people intending to put them out of business was a catalyst to such a windfall.

At this point, the more anger directed at them the more money they will likely receive.

 
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Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
This is just schtick/ trolling, right?
Of course it is. Consider the source. I'm amazed that people continue to read and respond to this guy. If there was ever a better time to utilize the ignore feature, I haven't seen it.
Not familiar with his work.

Will avoid
Come on now, I'm a really nice guy. :(
Maybe, but that isn't how you come across. The perception is that you are a mean-spirited homophobe and a bigot, which you keep reinforcing with your posts.

If you want to people to think of you as "a really nice guy" then perhaps you should start acting like one.

 
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Are there any obscenity laws or anything that would prevent someone from starting a pizza chain called **** Pizza that serves nothing but pizzas shaped like #####? Asking for a friend.
I appreciate your discretion, but I've decided I'm just going to move forward with my plans for **** Pizza.
You should name your pizza sizes the extra large ****, the large ****, the average ****, etc. You would make a killing. Nobody would come in and order anything smaller than the large.
Offer up the Holmes Slice on the lunch menu.

 
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.
Didn't you just accept a position with a predatory lender? If Jesus was here he'd knock over your table.
 
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
i don't have a clear understanding of this issue, i haven't read up on the fine points or put much energy into research. having said that, i read today that the RF statutes are meant to give businesses that choose to withhold service based on religious objections a legal argument. The issue being generally applicable non-discrimination laws compel businesses to go against their religious objections with no legal recourse.

so, it would be like passing a law that allows quakers not to join the military or doesn't require Sikhs to remove their head wear at airport screening. Not sure we need a law for this, imo, but that was what I read.

my general attitude to the entire thing is its a lot of teeth gnashing over nothing. I'm much more interested in the Iran deal, which no one seems to be talking about.

 
In my experience, Indiana is just weird.

I've seen an old farmer woman attack 10 wheelers with a broom on a city street because they were churning up too much dust. I've met more than a few Indiana residents that believe Elvis is still alive. There's a town in NW Indiana that hosts a fried cow brain sandwich eating festival. I know one guy that has been hunting a magical black panther that lives in the woods somewhere near Bloomington for years. Dry counties. My parents tried to purchase 120 acres next to a nudist colony south of Crown Point and a naked guy with a shotgun challenged us when we walked the property boundaries following a survey map. All kinds of craziness.

Nothing that happens in Indiana surprises me.

 
tommyboy said:
Sinn Fein said:
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
i don't have a clear understanding of this issue, i haven't read up on the fine points or put much energy into research. having said that, i read today that the RF statutes are meant to give businesses that choose to withhold service based on religious objections a legal argument. The issue being generally applicable non-discrimination laws compel businesses to go against their religious objections with no legal recourse.

so, it would be like passing a law that allows quakers not to join the military or doesn't require Sikhs to remove their head wear at airport screening. Not sure we need a law for this, imo, but that was what I read.

my general attitude to the entire thing is its a lot of teeth gnashing over nothing. I'm much more interested in the Iran deal, which no one seems to be talking about.
I've devoted my thread to it. You're welcome to come in at anytime. Lots of articles, facts have been posted and linked.

 
tommyboy said:
Sinn Fein said:
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
i don't have a clear understanding of this issue, i haven't read up on the fine points or put much energy into research. having said that, i read today that the RF statutes are meant to give businesses that choose to withhold service based on religious objections a legal argument. The issue being generally applicable non-discrimination laws compel businesses to go against their religious objections with no legal recourse.

so, it would be like passing a law that allows quakers not to join the military or doesn't require Sikhs to remove their head wear at airport screening. Not sure we need a law for this, imo, but that was what I read.

my general attitude to the entire thing is its a lot of teeth gnashing over nothing. I'm much more interested in the Iran deal, which no one seems to be talking about.
I've devoted my thread to it. You're welcome to come in at anytime. Lots of articles, facts have been posted and linked.
Tim please stick to your rules. I've been seeing more and more of your posts outside of your thread lately. I jump in your thread often, not to read your posts but others. Don't ruin these boards... Again.

 
CBusAlex said:
I think the more people talk about Big Gay and make light of people asked an innocent question, the less I respect them. I think that this sort of virtual mob, replete with death threats, arson threats, explicit gay penetration on their Yelp! page, etc. is disgusting and subhuman.
The extremists on the side of "big gay" post empty threats on the internet. The anti-gay extremists stage protests at soldier's funerals and occasionally outright murder gay people. I really don't think you want to continue down this ridiculous path of judging an entire movement by its worst actors.
Phelps was crazy and weird. Calling him anti-gay is true, but he's a once-in-a-lifetime kind of crazy. I wouldn't call him an RFRA supporter in any reasonable sense. He was bat####. Also, Phelps was a lefty who gave heavily to the Dem party from what I hear.

Pointing out instances of anti-gay violence is a valid point to make. Those are the worst actors on the anti-gay side. But I'm also not judging an entire gay rights movement by its worst actors. I think I was pretty careful in stating that I'm judging the worst actors in that movement by their actions, and right now, they seem to be the most entrenched and vocal.

 
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timschochet said:
Of all people, i was surprised that Rick Santorum gave a thoughtful answer to this question. Here's part of a transcript from last night on the Hugh Hewitt show;

HH: Now the famous cases are the baker, the photographer and the florist. And I have told everyone, in Hewitt’s world, the baker should sell the cake, the photographer should definitely not have to be forced to photograph the wedding, and I’m not sure about the florist because of facts and circumstances. That’s how RFRA works. That’s how the compelling state interest works. That’s what happens here. What, in Rick Santorum’s world, on the baker, the photographer and the florist, what do you think?

RS: Well, here’s what I think. I think that people should have, it’s the old test that we’ve used in the past. If they’re the only baker in town, they should bake the cake. If there’s someone, if they have a, if someone has a ferry service onto an island, and that’s where the wedding is, and you’re the only way to get to that island, there’s no road to the island, well, you’ve got to provide the service. But if the person has other opportunities to go other places, my feeling is that people shouldn’t be forced to participate in a ceremony that violates their religious tenets and teachings. Now you’re right. The cake baker is the most attenuated, and probably has the hardest argument to make. The photographer has the easiest argument to make. But I think in a world where have true tolerance, and we allow people to live their faith in their jobs, then I think we allow space for everybody unless there’s a compelling interest not to.

HH: Yeah, but in this world, we had two hotels, and of course, the advocates of same sex marriage argue that we had two hotels during the era of Jim Crow, and that didn’t hold up. So two bakers, they both ought to be obliged to bake.

RS: Well, I don’t know, it’s a different story. I mean, the baker, in my opinion, should absolutely serve anybody who comes into their hotel or restaurant or bakery, irrespective of what the color of their skin or their sexual orientation. That’s different than participating in a ceremony where you have a religious objection to it. So it’s not the who that you’re serving, it’s what you’re serving, what you’re serving for.

Now i'm still not sure I agree with what Rick is saying here, but it's a legitimate argument, not bigoted IMO.
I think there are two people on this board that schooled me on the difference between a common carrier and public accommodation. I thought the history was the same as Santorum in his ferry example. I personally made the same mistake Santorum is making, and the mistake is that which you are lauding. It's actually an incorrect lumping of two entirely separate doctrines of law under the same rubric, if I'm not mistaken.

Aerial Assault and bigbottom were the guys that corrected me, and it had to do with this very issue.

eta* This is why I also pay attention to stuff here and on other message boards. One can learn a lot.

 
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timschochet said:
Of all people, i was surprised that Rick Santorum gave a thoughtful answer to this question. Here's part of a transcript from last night on the Hugh Hewitt show;...

Now i'm still not sure I agree with what Rick is saying here, but it's a legitimate argument, not bigoted IMO.
Wow...that was actually pretty thought-provoking.

But I wonder what his answer would be if a gay couple hired a photographer/florist/caterer to do a strictly civil ceremony.

 
I'd like to be schooled on the difference between common carrier and public accommodation. Cliff notes
Common carriers, or those that generally transport goods and services, are a derivation of English common law (judge-made law) and these carriers were held to a very high discrimination and tort standard historically. They were not allowed to discriminate for a long, long time.

Public accommodations, per Wiki, include other entities used by the public. They include retail stores, restaurants, schools etc. These laws and entities included are explicitly drafted by legislatures, and concentrate on eliminating discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin.

​Also, AA and bigbottom can correct me here.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
Eminence said:
TobiasFunke said:
Eminence said:
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.
I'm sure it will too. Like rebuilding their business after it was destroyed by a bunch of PC and we-talk-about-tolerance-but-were-not-so-tolerant-after-all jackasses.
Their business was "destroyed" by internet comments?

 
tommyboy said:
Sinn Fein said:
So if the statute can't be used to discriminate against people who do not share your beliefs - what is/was the point of the religious freedom act in the first place?
i don't have a clear understanding of this issue, i haven't read up on the fine points or put much energy into research. having said that, i read today that the RF statutes are meant to give businesses that choose to withhold service based on religious objections a legal argument. The issue being generally applicable non-discrimination laws compel businesses to go against their religious objections with no legal recourse.

so, it would be like passing a law that allows quakers not to join the military or doesn't require Sikhs to remove their head wear at airport screening. Not sure we need a law for this, imo, but that was what I read.

my general attitude to the entire thing is its a lot of teeth gnashing over nothing. I'm much more interested in the Iran deal, which no one seems to be talking about.
What Indiana did wasn't this at all. The federal statute restricts the government from enacting laws from having a negative impact on any religion, intended or not. When the SC said that it couldn't be applied to states, many states adopted the same legislation.

What Indiana did was expand it to include a provision that would allow private business to use it as a shield against claims of discrimination -- any type of discrimination, not "just" against gay folks. That's a massive difference. During the legislative process Democrats howled about it and tried to amend it to remove the offending provision. The GOP majority refused. Everyone knew exactly what was happening while it was happening. It was a planned attack against civil rights by the Indiana GOP.

Literally the act would have given a business owner a blanket of protection if he refused to serve any identifiable demographic. Now, to be sure, racial minorities enjoy "protected class" status so it wouldn't hold-up for that type of discrimination, but for any discrimination against any non-protected class member? Have at it.

 
MaxThreshold said:
Eminence said:
TobiasFunke said:
Eminence said:
Over $736,000. Keep trying to bully us around! Christianity is about community. We will not bend for against those trying to pervert society!
Think of all the food and shelter that could be provided for the homeless with that kind of cash. Or the health care that could be provided to those who otherwise can't afford it.

Jesus wasn't really into those things, though. He was really more about making sure that people who were insulted and threatened on the internet have enough money to buy a yacht.
I'm certain that being a good Christian, the majority of that money will go to a humanitarian cause.
I'm sure it will too. Like rebuilding their business after it was destroyed by a bunch of PC and we-talk-about-tolerance-but-were-not-so-tolerant-after-all jackasses.
Their business was "destroyed" by internet comments?
They must have served some ####ty pizza for Internet backlash to have ruined them. In my experience the owner of a quality pizza joint could murder someone and still do good business. A little Internet backlash would just qualify as free PR.

These guys are the "Joe the Plummer" of the pizza world -- elevated WAY above their earned stature because of a nonesensical position about something that has exactly 0 likelihood of impacting them. No one caters their gay wedding w/ ####ty pizza. Joe wasn't ever sniffing $250k net profit.

 
Why does no one ever challenge the notion that Holding a Christian faith dictates that you have to oppose homosexuality? Christ never said word one about homosexuality but did say whatsoever you do unto the least of my brothers you do unto me. None of these mouth breathing ####tards can legitimately oppose serving a homosexuality based on Christianity. If they want to claim Orthodox Judaism they could have an argument, but the religion based on The teachings of Jesus has no basis for opposition.

If I were a judge and faced with ruling in this law, I would never allow someone to use Christianity as their basis for opposition. It's stupid.

 
Meanwhile in Colorado:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

Denver's Azucar Bakery wins right to refuse to make anti-gay cakes

DENVER - Colorado's legal battles between religious freedom and gay rights continue to play out in the not-so-sweet arena of bakery cake requests.

Last week, the Colorado Civil Rights Division ruled that Denver's Azucar Bakery did not discriminate against William Jack, a Christian from Castle Rock, by refusing to make two cakes with anti-gay messages and imagery that he requested last year.

The dispute began March 13, 2014 when Jack went to the bakery at 1886 S. Broadway and requested two cakes shaped like bibles. He asked that one cake have the image of two groomsmen holding hands in front of a cross with a red "X" over them. He asked that the cake be decorated with the biblical verses, "God hates sin. Psalm 45:7" and "Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:2", according to the Civil Rights Divisions' decision.

On the second bible-shaped cake, Jack also requested the image of the two groomsmen with the red "X". He wanted it decorated with the words "God loves sinners" and "While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 5:8."

He told the civil rights agency he ordered the cakes with the imagery and biblical verses to convey that same-sex marriage is, in his words, "un-biblical and inappropriate."

Marjorie Silva, the owner of the bakery, told Jack that she would make him the bible-shaped cakes, but would not decorate them with the biblical verses and the image of the groomsmen that he requested. Instead, she offered to provide him with icing and a pastry bag so he could write or draw whatever messages he wished on the cakes.

Silva told the civil rights agency that she also told Jack her bakery "does not discriminate" and "accept all humans."

Jack told the civil rights agency the bakery treated him unequally and denied him goods or services based on his religious creed, Christianity. He said he found this "demeaning to his beliefs."

Silva denied that she discriminated against Jack, saying she refused to make the requested cakes solely because the writing and imagery were "hateful and offensive."

Or as Silva told 7NEWS in January, "If he wants to hate people, he can hate them not here in my bakery."

The agency's decision found that the baker did not discriminate against Jack based on his creed. Instead, officials state the evidence shows Silva refused to make the cakes because the customer's requests included "derogatory language and imagery."

The baker said "in the same manner [she] would not accept [an order from] anyone wanting to make a discriminatory cake against Christians, [she] will not make one that discriminates against gays," according to the decision.

"The evidence demonstrates that [silva] would deny such requests to any customer, regardless of creed," the civil rights agency's decision stated.

 

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