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Breaking Bad on AMC (3 Viewers)

Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Rooting for TV characters is pretty weird.
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It's such a weird phenomenon. Even weirder is the hatred for certain characters. It's almost never the complete psychopaths. It's Skylar because she's a "#####." It's so odd.
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So you're not supposed to feel any type of emotion from tv, music, or movies? I'm pretty sure characters, songs, scripts and the like are all designed to elicit emotion. I'm not allowed to feel the behavior of Skyler towards Walt the minute he returns home from his "amnesia" stay at the hospital is that of a woman I wouldn't want to spend a moment with, let alone an entire life? I mean, yea we are along for the ride that the creator writes and deems important, but I think to say it's weird that people have opinions on characters or stories is weird itself.
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It is fine to point out that the creators have given Skylar faults. I would hope that they did But it just seems weird to me, that in a show about a guy who is a sociopath, a guy who clearly resents his family and views them as some sort of second-rate consolation prize to the great future he believed he was due, that it is Skylar's faults that people latch onto.

I mean, just listen to yourself. You're finding fault with Skyler's reaction to Walt's amnesia episode without even mentioning that Walt is lying about the episode to cover up illegal activities that put his family at risk. Walt poisons a kid, but Skylar is a nag and a killjoy. It's just weird what people latch onto.
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The issue you should be having is the concept of the "antihero" which is what you're describing here. It blew up with David Chase and Tony Soprano in modern TV and has been copied by others ever since. Since the Sopranos we've gotten Breaking Bad, The Shield, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy, Boardwalk Empire and many more I'm surely forgetting.

 
RUSF18 said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Rooting for TV characters is pretty weird.
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It's such a weird phenomenon. Even weirder is the hatred for certain characters. It's almost never the complete psychopaths. It's Skylar because she's a "#####." It's so odd.
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So you're not supposed to feel any type of emotion from tv, music, or movies? I'm pretty sure characters, songs, scripts and the like are all designed to elicit emotion. I'm not allowed to feel the behavior of Skyler towards Walt the minute he returns home from his "amnesia" stay at the hospital is that of a woman I wouldn't want to spend a moment with, let alone an entire life? I mean, yea we are along for the ride that the creator writes and deems important, but I think to say it's weird that people have opinions on characters or stories is weird itself.
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It is fine to point out that the creators have given Skylar faults. I would hope that they did But it just seems weird to me, that in a show about a guy who is a sociopath, a guy who clearly resents his family and views them as some sort of second-rate consolation prize to the great future he believed he was due, that it is Skylar's faults that people latch onto.

I mean, just listen to yourself. You're finding fault with Skyler's reaction to Walt's amnesia episode without even mentioning that Walt is lying about the episode to cover up illegal activities that put his family at risk. Walt poisons a kid, but Skylar is a nag and a killjoy. It's just weird what people latch onto.
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The issue you should be having is the concept of the "antihero" which is what you're describing here. It blew up with David Chase and Tony Soprano in modern TV and has been copied by others ever since. Since the Sopranos we've gotten Breaking Bad, The Shield, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy, Boardwalk Empire and many more I'm surely forgetting.
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Oceans 11 and the sequels too.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Good Posting Judge said:
Rooting for TV characters is pretty weird.
Click to expand...
It's such a weird phenomenon. Even weirder is the hatred for certain characters. It's almost never the complete psychopaths. It's Skylar because she's a "#####." It's so odd.
Click to expand...
So you're not supposed to feel any type of emotion from tv, music, or movies? I'm pretty sure characters, songs, scripts and the like are all designed to elicit emotion. I'm not allowed to feel the behavior of Skyler towards Walt the minute he returns home from his "amnesia" stay at the hospital is that of a woman I wouldn't want to spend a moment with, let alone an entire life? I mean, yea we are along for the ride that the creator writes and deems important, but I think to say it's weird that people have opinions on characters or stories is weird itself.
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I feel emotion regarding the show, but it doesn't hinge on whether any given character "wins" or "loses." Either way, I just hope it's compelling.
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But it's about the journey you're watching. If the character "loses" (gets killed, goes to jail, gets beaten in an event, etc) it could derail the journey that you want to see and that the writers want to show. I didn't have pom poms in my hands when I was "rooting" for Walt to get away from/kill Tucco, but I knew he needed to do so to continue down this path.

At the end of this season, I don't care whether Walt lives or dies as long as whatever method Gilligan has chosen gets depicted in a similarly awesome way as he's done with the rest of the series.

 
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Politician Spock said:
Oceans 11 and the sequels too.
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Dexter is probably the most extreme example.

And I would agree with Leeroy's point that everybody understands the nagging wife. That is the kind of thing is a lot more intellectually and emotionally accessible than the complexity of the any of the anti-heros of late. Plus really it is ineffectual men watching those shows wishing that they could live out the lives of these characters, so of course they will root for them. All people, really, who wish that they didn't have to deal with so much of the bull#### of daily life.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
It is fine to point out that the creators have given Skylar faults. I would hope that they did But it just seems weird to me, that in a show about a guy who is a sociopath, a guy who clearly resents his family and views them as some sort of second-rate consolation prize to the great future he believed he was due, that it is Skylar's faults that people latch onto.

I mean, just listen to yourself. You're finding fault with Skyler's reaction to Walt's amnesia episode without even mentioning that Walt is lying about the episode to cover up illegal activities that put his family at risk. Walt poisons a kid, but Skylar is a nag and a killjoy. It's just weird what people latch onto.
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It wasn't real poison. It was just a prop. Similarly, when Walt shoots someone, it's just ketchup.

Skylar's nagging, though -- that ####'s real.

 
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Just realized I'm going to be in a hotel the night of the premiere, not getting home until that Friday. I assume I can catch a stream at some point likely starting Monday but that night could be terrible if there's no AMC in the channel lineup.

 
When Breaking Bad left off last summer, tenacious DEA agent Hank Schrader (Dean Norris) was hot on the trail — and, er, toilet — of meth maker Walter White (Bryan Cranston). And when the revered drama returns with the second half of season 5 (beginning Aug. 11 on AMC), what should we brace for? Among other things, maybe a bit of self-reflection from the cancer-stricken chemistry teacher who transformed himself into a lethal drug kingpin with the help of high school dropout/partner Jesse (Aaron Paul).

“We often said in the writers’ room that if Walt had a superpower, it would be not his chemistry knowledge or his ability to cook crystal meth but his ability to lie,” series creator/executive producer Vince Gilligan tells EW. “Walt has been the world’s greatest liar, and I think the person he lies most capably to is himself. So in these final eight episodes, perhaps the lies will cease to find traction and the scales will start to fall away from Walt’s eyes. And when that happens, will Walt really begin to realize who he is? That’s a question that we asked ourselves a lot in the writers’ room this year.”

Of course, Walt won’t have too much time for navel-gazing, as he’ll need to keep his eyes on his brother-in-law Hank — in addition to other adversaries. “There will be antagonistic relationships aplenty,” promises Gilligan, adding: “Walt’s got plenty of fight left in him. And he’s got plenty of forces to fight. You met some of them. Others you haven’t.”

Should viewers brace for a high body count? “As the movie title goes, there will be blood,” answers Gilligan. “To my mind, that’s not the most interesting thing. It’s the emotional moments and the character moments. … We’ve got some stuff that I think is going to be truly satisfying and truly shocking and jarring. It does not always center on moments of violence.” And these moments will come flying at you at “breakneck speed,” he warns: “I have surprised myself at how much story there was left to tell and how quickly we tell it. You need to really settle down on the couch and pay close attention because it’s going to come at you fast and furious in the final eight episodes.”

Gilligan is both cautious and upbeat when it comes to discussing that highly anticipated finale. “We worked long and hard to ensure that these final eight — and, in fact, the very last episode — would satisfy an audience,” he says. “I am guardedly optimistic that we have achieved just that. And furthermore, trying to be as coy as possible, trying to give away as little as possible, I feel like this ending represents on some level, however small, something of a victory for Walter White. Read into that what you will. And try to be as open-minded as possible when you watch this episode, because it may not indeed feel like a victory. Or maybe it will. … I feel good about where it all ended up, and I can’t wait for people to see it.”

 
Buckfast 1 said:
Raider Nation said:
9-minute Breaking Bad refresher

"His son is Walt Jr. He eats breakfast a lot."

:lmao: :lmao:
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I'm pretty sure Walt Jr. is going to get killed this season. The writers will intend it to be that critical moment in which Walt's meth empire and hubris finally destroys his family completely. But instead it will be a ####### celebration in here with breakfast and bacon jokes galore.
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If they blow up a Denny's while Walt Jr is pounding down a couple of Grand Slams, that would be awesome!

Well, jr dying would be sad, but I'd love to see a Denny's explode into a million broken egg shells and bacon bits.

 
Ted was a decent looking guy. Would he really be interested in laying pipe with Skyler right after she had a kid?

Hot dog >>>>> hallway

 
Just played the first episode for the gf and she said she didn't care for it and has no interest in watching the show.

:loco:

I might have to rethink if this relationship has legs.

 
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