Breaking News - Terrell Owens Rushed to local hospital (1 Viewer)

[B-Deep]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

what time specifically? maybe I'll drive down there since its about 2 minutes away...

take your camera phone!

 

[Franknbeans]

they just had blurb from Deion on Sirius who actually spoke with TO and TO was laughing at the reports of a suicide attempt. He'll have press conference later today. Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

 

[Bankerguy]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

Super agent Drew is there with him.

 

[BassNBrew]

As of right now, I trust the police report over anything else.

My experience tells me that the cops are most likely lying.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Drew Rosenhaus arrives

Calvin Watkins reports that T.O.'s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has arrived at Owens' condo. Rosenhaus would not comment. When someone asked if T.O. was OK, an unidentified man shook his head "yes" and closed the door.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com

[hijack]I am not a professional athlete nor have I had a sports agent but I am puzzled by Rosenhaus. This guys seemes to be T.O.'s wet nurse, babysitter, confidant, suit case pimp, apologist and nose wiper. Do all agents in pro sports act like this guy does? And does he do this for all of his clients or just T.O. because Drew craves media attention just as much as Ownes craves it? I'm just asking.[/hijack]

If your athlete was involved in one of the biggest news stories of the year wouldn't you want to get your air time too?

 

[RKMoney]

To quote Don Henley:I make my living off the evening newsJust give me something-something I can usePeople love it when you lose,They love dirty laundryWe got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde whoComes on at fiveShe can tell you bout the plane crash with a gleamIn her eyeIts interesting when people die-Give us dirty laundryCan we film the operation? Is the head dead yet? You know, the boys in the newsroom got aRunning betGet the widow on the set!We need dirty laundryDirty little secretsDirty little liesWe got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pieWe love to cut you down to sizeWe love dirty laundry

Very, very well done. It's too bad that people LOVE this kind of thing, it diverts from their troubles; and that seams to make them happy in many cases.I hope he didn't attempt suicide, because that would be sad. I also hope he does play football, because he is fun to watch.I also hope whatever the trouble may be, he works it out for his well being...

 

[red]

There are ways around the 72 hour "rule" even in confirmed suicide attempts. They are just not released on their own recognizance. But if you have a nurse present and promise that the person will be under observation at all times for the next few days it would usually suffice.

this is not true. a 72 hour hold in this instance implies that TO is a danger to himself. by placing a hold on him, the hospital or state is essentially removing his civil rights. it IS a form of incarceration as he cannot leave the hospital and will ordinarily have a nurse or someone sitting by his beside under 24 hour watch. it takes a LOT to continue a hold beyond 72 hours (the courts get involved, hearings begin as hospitals pursue temporary conservatorship). however, once a physician deems that a hold is no longer necessary, the hold can be terminated (often after just 24 hours of observation...i.e. less than the 72 hour hold). once the hold is terminated, the patient is granted all his rights afforded him by our government...in other words, there is no mandate for continued observation, house arrest, or close medical supervision. it is up to the individual, his physician(s) and family to continue to provide the help and support he needs to avoid any further danger to himself.

 

[dallas428]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

he will only be wearing his hospital gown and will be doing situps in the parking lot but he will field any and all questions.

 

[Bri]

Who would be stupid enough to take 30+ pills? Definitely a way to get attention or TO was too stupid thinking that taking more will get him back on the field faster. Maybe the boy is mentally unstable. Either way he will be a big BUST this year.

WOW. Most ignorant post I've seen so far, and while I know that mayn have been removed and I may not have seen all of them, that's STILL saying something. Well done!

In this thread, the way we're getting mixed news, you have to be pretty special if you can weed out most ignorant from ...well ignorant.

 

[Bertha]

if the media got this wrong, they are going to take a big hit for this -- everyone is in a rush to scoop each other

Edit: same thing for the police. some rookie cop is gonna get canned for this

 

[bjabrad]

they just had blurb from Deion on Sirius who actually spoke with TO and TO was laughing at the reports of a suicide attempt. He'll have press conference later today. Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Pretty typical situation for a suicidal gesture to be denied and played off as an accident by the attempter. Just FYI

 

[larry_boy_44]

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

this means we assessed to not be a current danger to himself and presented no symptoms or behaviors warranting him being held against his will for psychiatric observationIn other words, the doctors and assessors believe his story and no medical evidence to contradict.

Basically you have TO and the publisist saying the same thing and no evidence to contradict the claim, medically or otherwise.

if it was an actual suicide attempt (trust me, I have a little knowledge in the procedures here (not for myself)), he would be forced to undergo psychiatric evaluation EVEN IF he was no longer a dange to himself at the moment.... It doesn't matter once you try to kill yourself and get taken to the hospital you are under police costudy and have a trial a few days later and stuff and they make you get psychiatric treatment no matter what...if he is out and going home he didn't commit suicide (or Jerry Jones pulled some strings)

 

[flapgreen]

Not sure if this has been posted.

From the Cowboys team website:

"Parcells said last Wednesday Owens had a bad reaction to pain medication and was sent home while the team had its first workout during the bye week. Owens returned to The Ranch on Thursday and actually did some running with the team on Friday."

Surely, he didn't have 2 allergic reactions to medication in one week. This leads me to believe there has to be something more to it. NFL.com is reporting suicide attempt also. No way to know for sure.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing?

As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

 

[Urinal Mint]

You can find his residence pretty quickly using the Dallas County Tax Records website.

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

Deep Ellum?!?!

 

[Punk]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

what time specifically? maybe I'll drive down there since its about 2 minutes away...

DO IT!

 

[mojorizin]

More facts.....RECAP: Dallas Police Briefing... ::EDITED:: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Police PCHow this information got out, we don't know.The official statement is that we WILL NOT have any further investigation on this matter. Anything more you need to know, will have to be obtained from Mr. Owens or the medical staff.We are not confirming or denying anything.I will not speculate on what happened.If you want the 911 tape you will have to make the request to the Fire Department. They are the keeper of the tapes.We are not persuing this as a criminal offense.I will not comment on the validity of the document (police report) you have.That's all.

Translation: our inexperienced responding officer misinterpreted the situation, filed a report that needlessly contained severe inaccuracies instead of just stating the KNOWN facts as such reports are supposed to do (that's why they have detectives who follow up), touched off a media firestorm, has enormous legal implications, and now we are backing away as fast as our legs will carry us.

The report I read only contains statement given to the responding officers by the reporting party (unclear if the RP is the woman or the EMT). One area is unclear regarding whether the statements were made by the reporting party or the complainant (TO). Regardless, they are a record of what was said to the responding officer. There is no interpretation of the facts listed in the narrative. They reported what they were told at the scene. No more, no less. The police position is likely stating the obvious, that this is not a police matter so don't ask us about any of this mess because we just came to the scene like we were asked to do and wrote some stuff down like we are required to do...nothing more, nothing less. Translation: Regardless of what happened, this is a medical issue and not a police issue, ask the medical folks.

Its the way it should be. PD was first reponder, will have to make an entry regarding their response, and if determined it is not a police matter, they may not even file a more formal report. I see it all the time. I try to track down a report and discover that the only record in existence is the response report. If there are no criminal charges to be filed, there is no reason for further.

The DPD is distancing itself from the report as fast as it can. Period.

This is what happens in cases like this. No way should anything go out the door until approved, nobody makes a statement until content approved. You probably had the determination and initial investigation made by a 25 yr old kid with barely an associates degree. No offense to cops, but the street guy doesnt think about this kinda stuff. He could make a mistake, judge the situation wrong, think he's cool because its TO and wants to make him look worse than he is, and any number of other things that come back to haunt the department.If its the real deal, someone likely leaked that sucker without approval.

 

[Mario Kart]

Drew Rosenhaus arrives

Calvin Watkins reports that T.O.'s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has arrived at Owens' condo. Rosenhaus would not comment. When someone asked if T.O. was OK, an unidentified man shook his head "yes" and closed the door.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com

[hijack]I am not a professional athlete nor have I had a sports agent but I am puzzled by Rosenhaus. This guys seemes to be T.O.'s wet nurse, babysitter, confidant, suit case pimp, apologist and nose wiper. Do all agents in pro sports act like this guy does? And does he do this for all of his clients or just T.O. because Drew craves media attention just as much as Ownes craves it? I'm just asking.[/hijack]

If your athlete was involved in one of the biggest news stories of the year wouldn't you want to get your air time too?

I think the fact Rosenhaus showed up so quickly gives a little more factual evidence to the "TO tried to commit suicide" reports. If Owens is taken to the hospital for an allergic reaction Rosenhaus does not need to show up. Him showing up gives credence to the whole suicide thing.

 

[bjabrad]

if the media got this wrong, they are going to take a big hit for this -- everyone is in a rush to scoop each otherEdit: same thing for the police. some rookie cop is gonna get canned for this

who are they going to take the hit from and who is going to report it?

 

[Joe Bryant]

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

this means we assessed to not be a current danger to himself and presented no symptoms or behaviors warranting him being held against his will for psychiatric observationIn other words, the doctors and assessors believe his story and no medical evidence to contradict.

Basically you have TO and the publisist saying the same thing and no evidence to contradict the claim, medically or otherwise.

Hi PB,Do we know if Texas has the 72 hour rule on suicide attempts? And if so, how strictly it's enforced?

J

hey joe-as an internist, i am quite familiar with having to admit and observe patients who attempt suicide. usually they are immediately placed on a 72 hour hold (or 5150 which is the legal code). anyone who is deemed a danger to themselves, a danger to others or gravely disabled (i.e. cannot provide food clothing or shelter for themselves) can be placed on one of these holds. a common misconception is that once the hold is started it cannot be revoked. in fact, any physician can terminate the 72 hold at any time once it is believed that the patient is no longer considered a danger to themselves or others or gravely disabled.

i suspect texas is no different than california (wow! i can't believe i just said that). if TO was discharged from the hospital, then the hold has been lifted and he is free to act as any citizen with with civil liberities intact.

Thanks red,Can you shed any light on how much info the hospital will release with all the privacy laws?

The simplest way for Owens to clear all this will be for the ER docs to tell what they treated him for. Did they pump his stomach? What did they find? That kind of stuff. Any thoughts there?

J

 

[flapgreen]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

he will only be wearing his hospital gown and will be doing situps in the parking lot but he will field any and all questions.

 

[Bertha]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

 

[joffer]

if he is out and going home he didn't commit suicide

very profound

 

[red]

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

this means we assessed to not be a current danger to himself and presented no symptoms or behaviors warranting him being held against his will for psychiatric observationIn other words, the doctors and assessors believe his story and no medical evidence to contradict.

Basically you have TO and the publisist saying the same thing and no evidence to contradict the claim, medically or otherwise.

Hi PB,Do we know if Texas has the 72 hour rule on suicide attempts? And if so, how strictly it's enforced?

J

hey joe-as an internist, i am quite familiar with having to admit and observe patients who attempt suicide. usually they are immediately placed on a 72 hour hold (or 5150 which is the legal code). anyone who is deemed a danger to themselves, a danger to others or gravely disabled (i.e. cannot provide food clothing or shelter for themselves) can be placed on one of these holds. a common misconception is that once the hold is started it cannot be revoked. in fact, any physician can terminate the 72 hold at any time once it is believed that the patient is no longer considered a danger to themselves or others or gravely disabled.

i suspect texas is no different than california (wow! i can't believe i just said that). if TO was discharged from the hospital, then the hold has been lifted and he is free to act as any citizen with with civil liberities intact.

Red,I said this about four pages back, but it got lost. Fact is nothing supports this as a suicide attempt. if it was he would have been put on a 72 hour hold. And if this was a Vicodin overdose (which is what was reported), vicodin contains acetomenophin(tylenol). For Tylenol overdoses there is a risk of liver failure and patients are usually observed for a much longer period of time (although he supposedly had his stomach pumped and they can check Tylenol blood levels).

true.i was just commenting on the 72 hour hold issue. had TO truly taken 30+ vicodin pills that would be ~15 grams of tylenol (4 x the maximum daily dose). he would required gastric lavage (stomach pumping) and either 17 courses of medicine ~ every couple of hours to hopefully prevent the liver toxicity. there is an IV form which can be infused over a total of 18 hours or so. so, had he OD on vicodin, he would mostly likely have stayed 2 nights in the hospital as the doctors would be monitoring his liver tests, giving him the medicine and observing his clinical condition....

FWIW: i wonder if the guy was just a bit delerious and answered the cops the way he did while in a delerious state.

 

[moleculo]

I seriously doubt we will ever get the whole, true story. I also seriously doubt that people will agree on what ever ends up being reported as the whole, true story.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

ESPN is reporting that TO will do a press conference in 5 minutes. No link, saw it on TV.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

If TO just took some meds and had an allergic reaction or something, I don't think it reflects poorly on him at all. Dude is in the hospital, I don't think he can be blamed for the media taking this story, spinning a tale, and blowing it up.

 

[mojorizin]

As of right now, I trust the police report over anything else.

My experience tells me that the cops are most likely lying.

The police most likely thought they were into something HUGE, got jacked up, and come to conclusions they likely shouldnt have at that juncture. Everythiing done on the midnight shift when the powers that be arent around and stuff went out the door well before it should have.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

Probably true. But it's a Catch 22 of his own making.

 

[phillzphan]

Drew Rosenhaus arrives

Calvin Watkins reports that T.O.'s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has arrived at Owens' condo. Rosenhaus would not comment. When someone asked if T.O. was OK, an unidentified man shook his head "yes" and closed the door.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com

[hijack]I am not a professional athlete nor have I had a sports agent but I am puzzled by Rosenhaus. This guys seemes to be T.O.'s wet nurse, babysitter, confidant, suit case pimp, apologist and nose wiper. Do all agents in pro sports act like this guy does? And does he do this for all of his clients or just T.O. because Drew craves media attention just as much as Ownes craves it? I'm just asking.[/hijack]

If your athlete was involved in one of the biggest news stories of the year wouldn't you want to get your air time too?

I think the fact Rosenhaus showed up so quickly gives a little more factual evidence to the "TO tried to commit suicide" reports. If Owens is taken to the hospital for an allergic reaction Rosenhaus does not need to show up. Him showing up gives credence to the whole suicide thing.

When the biggest NFL news story of the season hits, people want to hear from him. When is the last time TO talked by himself? ....next question.

 

[OddibeMcD]

If this in fact was not an act by Terrell to harm himself, which I start to doubt more and more as time goes on, I wonder if there will be any repercussion against the media outlets that spread this story thicker than flies on ####. It's amazing watching the progression of this story, from the trip to the hospital, to the ex-police chief, to the fact that TO may be at death's door, to him now being home. Would he have any recourse to such a gross breach of privacy? Would he be able to come after someone for slander/libel, as these rumours would have to negatively impact his marketability? I hope he's OK and gets back on his feet and on the field. He's a great guy to watch play and I hope he can get his head screwed on straight.

 

[bjabrad]

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

this means we assessed to not be a current danger to himself and presented no symptoms or behaviors warranting him being held against his will for psychiatric observationIn other words, the doctors and assessors believe his story and no medical evidence to contradict.

Basically you have TO and the publisist saying the same thing and no evidence to contradict the claim, medically or otherwise.

if it was an actual suicide attempt (trust me, I have a little knowledge in the procedures here (not for myself)), he would be forced to undergo psychiatric evaluation EVEN IF he was no longer a dange to himself at the moment.... It doesn't matter once you try to kill yourself and get taken to the hospital you are under police costudy and have a trial a few days later and stuff and they make you get psychiatric treatment no matter what...if he is out and going home he didn't commit suicide (or Jerry Jones pulled some strings)

I don't doubt your knowledge one bit but it would be good to know if we're talking apples to apples here since states can differ in laws and procedures. Any relevant info from the state of Texas would be the most applicable here.

 

[Bri]

Not sure if this has been posted.From the Cowboys team website: "Parcells said last Wednesday Owens had a bad reaction to pain medication and was sent home while the team had its first workout during the bye week. Owens returned to The Ranch on Thursday and actually did some running with the team on Friday."Surely, he didn't have 2 allergic reactions to medication in one week. This leads me to believe there has to be something more to it. NFL.com is reporting suicide attempt also. No way to know for sure.

Not true.I'm allergic to penicillin and sometimes have reactions to different antibiotics the docs give me. I would think of it as if one botherred him, another might.

 

[TitusIII]

if the media got this wrong, they are going to take a big hit for this -- everyone is in a rush to scoop each otherEdit: same thing for the police. some rookie cop is gonna get canned for this

True, the sports media is a disgrace.

 

[phillzphan]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

Probably true. But it's a Catch 22 of his own making.

not at all....?

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

what time specifically? maybe I'll drive down there since its about 2 minutes away...

Radio just said it would be in the next 5 minutes.

 

[Bri]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

Probably true. But it's a Catch 22 of his own making.

hard to make a correcting statement from a hospital bed

 

[Bertha]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

Probably true. But it's a Catch 22 of his own making.

Because of his history? Or related to this specific incident?

 

[ceo3west]

From Todd Archer ...The Cowboys announced that T.O. will be making a statement at his condo within 45 minutes.

he will only be wearing his hospital gown and will be doing situps in the parking lot but he will field any and all questions.

dude youre killing me

 

[culdeus]

if the media got this wrong, they are going to take a big hit for this -- everyone is in a rush to scoop each otherEdit: same thing for the police. some rookie cop is gonna get canned for this

who are they going to take the hit from and who is going to report it?

Jones & co. might limit access to Channel 8 in the future.

 

[phillzphan]

will the report be on the radio? TV? lets heaar it from people who can listen/watch

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I see a few things working here. Coming from a man that has dealt with suicide head on, I think I can speak relatively intelligently about this.

My brother-in-Law had a successful suicide November 5, 2004. He was severely depressed but refused treatment and counseling that was offered repeatedly from both his parents and his sister/my wife. He bought a 9 mm gun, told no one and waited the required 2 weeks for the background check. He had everything planned to the last detail. He pciked up the gun on a Thursday night after work, came home to his parents house, acted like it was a normal day and knew he was going to kill himself the next day. Sure enough, he did not go to work, stayed home, let his parents leave for work, drank a half bottle of Grey Goose and the coroner estimated he shot himself at 10:45 am. He left no note. Only a sticky note attached to his phone with the code to his ATM Card and the code to his cell phone voicemail. He did cut a check to his father for the entire amount he had in his chekcing account and in the memo portion he wrote "no funeral services". With all this said, the fallout the family had to deal with was horrendous and still affects my wife and her family to this day.

So with the background laid, I feel this "suicide attempt" was either a major cry for help or a publicity stunt. Typically men when they are committed to committing suicide do it violently and are usually successful. Women typically use pills and medication to attempt suicide.

I am scratching my head at the reports from the Cowboys website saying that Ownes has already been released from the hospital.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=E...D81B6BFB56FE31F

If this was a legit attempt at suicide, by law (in California at least) the patient in question has to spend 72 hours in the psych ward for more observation. I am not sure what the law is in Texas but I would assume it would be standard practice in all states. I am not ruling out that because this is a high profile case and because of his celebrity that might have been waived. (We all know that athletes and celebrities play by their own sets of rules when it comes to laws and protocol. Just look at the court system and they way they treat high profile cases and I do not need to explain further.)

Depression is a big deal for sure. T.O. has shown signs that he is severely depressed and his "look at me" antics from the 49ers, to Philly and now to Big D all show that this guy has some serious issues he needs to work out. Forget the football fans that watch him or the fantasy guys that are living and breathing on how many yards he will get this weekend. I hope he gets better for the sake of the people that are truly close to him. I know how devastating a suicide can be to a family and the wake of damage a suicide leaves behind is almost immeasurable.

 

[MKB4®]

Calvin Watkins reports that Deion Sanders and his wife have arrived at T.O.'s condo.

"We will get the truth from the man himself," said Sanders. "He will tell the truth."

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but what's the perception of TO if this ends up being just ANOTHER "TO being TO" type thing? As in "not a suicide but a 'simple' misunderstanding" type thing.

It isn't T.O.'s fault if the police and media got things wrong. What sucks is, the guy can't win either way in this situation.

Probably true. But it's a Catch 22 of his own making.

Because of his history? Or related to this specific incident?

Because of his history.Sucks for him if some pee-on cop or media type took the story and ran with it, dragging TO's name through the mud. He wouldn't have created that.But he has fostered a certain type of "TO" reaction whenever his name is brought up

 

[Bankerguy]

Could we start a new intelligent TO thread and leave this one to the other large majority.

 

[Bri]

Could we start a new intelligent TO thread and leave this one to the other large majority.

there hasn't been one of those in years hereTO brings out "the best" in people

 

[red]

WR Owens returns home after hospital release

Written by: ¦ 9/27/2006

Source: cowboys.beloblog.com

Terrell Owens just returned to his condo in Deep Ellum. Owens arrived in a black Cadillac Escalade driven by an unidentified woman. There were two other people in the back seat.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

this means we assessed to not be a current danger to himself and presented no symptoms or behaviors warranting him being held against his will for psychiatric observationIn other words, the doctors and assessors believe his story and no medical evidence to contradict.

Basically you have TO and the publisist saying the same thing and no evidence to contradict the claim, medically or otherwise.

Hi PB,Do we know if Texas has the 72 hour rule on suicide attempts? And if so, how strictly it's enforced?

J

hey joe-as an internist, i am quite familiar with having to admit and observe patients who attempt suicide. usually they are immediately placed on a 72 hour hold (or 5150 which is the legal code). anyone who is deemed a danger to themselves, a danger to others or gravely disabled (i.e. cannot provide food clothing or shelter for themselves) can be placed on one of these holds. a common misconception is that once the hold is started it cannot be revoked. in fact, any physician can terminate the 72 hold at any time once it is believed that the patient is no longer considered a danger to themselves or others or gravely disabled.

i suspect texas is no different than california (wow! i can't believe i just said that). if TO was discharged from the hospital, then the hold has been lifted and he is free to act as any citizen with with civil liberities intact.

Thanks red,Can you shed any light on how much info the hospital will release with all the privacy laws?

The simplest way for Owens to clear all this will be for the ER docs to tell what they treated him for. Did they pump his stomach? What did they find? That kind of stuff. Any thoughts there?

J

the hospitals can only state the condition of a patient (i.e. stable, critical, etc). they cannot release specifics unless the patient gives written permission (a signed consent form) or if the records are a matter of public disclosure (as part of a police report). the police report should now be closed as their job was to get him in to the hospital for proper care. so, we'll know only what TO wants us to know and the events that led to his hospitalization, but not the course itself.

 

[BlueOnion]

Not sure if this has been posted.From the Cowboys team website: "Parcells said last Wednesday Owens had a bad reaction to pain medication and was sent home while the team had its first workout during the bye week. Owens returned to The Ranch on Thursday and actually did some running with the team on Friday."Surely, he didn't have 2 allergic reactions to medication in one week. This leads me to believe there has to be something more to it. NFL.com is reporting suicide attempt also. No way to know for sure.

Not true.I'm allergic to penicillin and sometimes have reactions to different antibiotics the docs give me. I would think of it as if one botherred him, another might.

I would be more interested in the supplement T.O. took. Was it a vitamin C supplement?

 

[B-Deep]

Could we start a new intelligent TO thread and leave this one to the other large majority.

not likely

 

[flapgreen]

Not sure if this has been posted.From the Cowboys team website: "Parcells said last Wednesday Owens had a bad reaction to pain medication and was sent home while the team had its first workout during the bye week. Owens returned to The Ranch on Thursday and actually did some running with the team on Friday."Surely, he didn't have 2 allergic reactions to medication in one week. This leads me to believe there has to be something more to it. NFL.com is reporting suicide attempt also. No way to know for sure.

Not true.I'm allergic to penicillin and sometimes have reactions to different antibiotics the docs give me. I would think of it as if one botherred him, another might.

Didn't say there was no way it happened. Just didn't seem too likely. Who knows