More seriously, my nephew just started HS this year. He spent most of his 8th grade year doing interviews, putting together basically a resume of his extra-curriculars, and getting reference letters. Granted this is highly ranked private HS in Houston, but all that just to get into HS! Then he spent his summer taking pre-work classes to get ready for the school year. Do kids ever get to be kids anymore?
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Changes at High Schools. Now vs back in the day.. (1 Viewer)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not sure if this was said, but fighting. When I was in school there were fights all the time. People would get suspended 1 - 3 days then come back. Now they just expelled from school, zero tolerance.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Having two kids who recently graduated it seems like traditional boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are rare. In both of my kid's friends group, maybe 2 our of 8 or whatever ever had boyfriends/girlfriends or even actively dated in high school. When I was in high school everyone seemed to be pared up.
Also, the whole promposal thing is out of control and stupid. For kids that don't seem too concerned with any kind of relationship, these stupid promposals certainly are a huge deal.
Also, the whole promposal thing is out of control and stupid. For kids that don't seem too concerned with any kind of relationship, these stupid promposals certainly are a huge deal.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
If you are lucky, a lot of these school fights end up with criminal charges. You hit someone and break a nose or orbital socket, you have bought a mid range felony and pretty much can kiss your future college plans goodbye.
There is so much we (speaking as an 80's graduate) used to do without a second thought. I now lecture my two girls to not even think about doing anything because you will get charged for these things.. So much has been criminalized since then, it is crazy.
We had BB gun fights for Pete's sake. It hurt when you got hit, but today you are again biting off a mid range felony for 2nd degree assault and don't even get started for mooning someone today, you will be on a sex registry for doing that if convicted.
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wikkidpissah
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Schools are missing what people are missing - authority - and the one is the reason for the other. That you do not find people with both command & honor anymore is a greater tragedy than climate change.
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comfortably numb
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Brunell4MVP
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1) Smoking - It wasn't permitted, but they overlooked it. One bathroom was dedicated to it.
2) Dress code - We weren't allowed to wear shorts unless it was over 95 degrees. And my high school in Virginia didn't have AC. Not even window units. Occasionally we'd come in with shorts, but they'd say it wasn't hot enough and call our parents to bring us long pants. That didn't sit well with my mom. How the boys these days can walk around without a giant boner given what the girls wear is beyond me.
3) Our teachers did not want to have sex with us. I'm pretty sure there were a couple of hot women teaching I had some fantasy about. But for sure they had no interest in a bunch of 13 year olds.
4) Detention - Do they even have this anymore? Seems you go straight to suspended.
5) Fights - We had a fight every week at least. They were kind of fun. Nobody really got hurt. Now they can't even touch each other of they get in big trouble (unless of course the touching is sex behind the curtains in the cafeteria, which seemingly they get away with).
6) Competition and intelligence - They are flat out more book smart and competitive now. We would kill all afternoon at the basketball courts or at someone's house. Now my kids hit the books from the time they get home until midnight. I find it depressing and try to get them out. They simply have no interest. My kids both have 4.4+ GPAs. I wish they'd get lower grades and have more fun.
7) Indifference to anything - Kids seems less passionate about hobbies. Everything is so organized and structured they have no freedom, and without the freedom the passion kind of seems gone. So they kind of float through it all - study, then for some pot, alcohol, sex, whatever...but even for those things it's just something to do...nothing they really enjoy. I mean, at least back then we had sex because damn it was fun and good and the girl was hot. Now, they just do it because it is there to do.
ETA 8) food and drinks - the kids are healthy these days. Many days at school my lunch was pizza and french fries. Or a soda and a hostess cupcake out of the machines. Glad the kids care more about this.
2) Dress code - We weren't allowed to wear shorts unless it was over 95 degrees. And my high school in Virginia didn't have AC. Not even window units. Occasionally we'd come in with shorts, but they'd say it wasn't hot enough and call our parents to bring us long pants. That didn't sit well with my mom. How the boys these days can walk around without a giant boner given what the girls wear is beyond me.
3) Our teachers did not want to have sex with us. I'm pretty sure there were a couple of hot women teaching I had some fantasy about. But for sure they had no interest in a bunch of 13 year olds.
4) Detention - Do they even have this anymore? Seems you go straight to suspended.
5) Fights - We had a fight every week at least. They were kind of fun. Nobody really got hurt. Now they can't even touch each other of they get in big trouble (unless of course the touching is sex behind the curtains in the cafeteria, which seemingly they get away with).
6) Competition and intelligence - They are flat out more book smart and competitive now. We would kill all afternoon at the basketball courts or at someone's house. Now my kids hit the books from the time they get home until midnight. I find it depressing and try to get them out. They simply have no interest. My kids both have 4.4+ GPAs. I wish they'd get lower grades and have more fun.
7) Indifference to anything - Kids seems less passionate about hobbies. Everything is so organized and structured they have no freedom, and without the freedom the passion kind of seems gone. So they kind of float through it all - study, then for some pot, alcohol, sex, whatever...but even for those things it's just something to do...nothing they really enjoy. I mean, at least back then we had sex because damn it was fun and good and the girl was hot. Now, they just do it because it is there to do.
ETA 8) food and drinks - the kids are healthy these days. Many days at school my lunch was pizza and french fries. Or a soda and a hostess cupcake out of the machines. Glad the kids care more about this.
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Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
My brother had to fight and threaten to keep his boy (8th grade at the time) from having his stupid prank on his record as a "sexual assault". My nephew yanked his buddies gym shorts down and everyone laughed about it including the kid with his shorts around his knees. My brother was cool with the suspension that his boy got, didn't argue that but when the paper showed it as a sexual assault he drew the line. Had to have a lawyer friend write a firm letter to back it down to horseplay.
Drunken knight
Footballguy
class of 87Short Corner said:
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Drunken knight
Footballguy
So, my high school was pretty decent back in the day, but now is like a little college. It is private Catholic and at the time very reasonable for an excellent education. Now it has become very expensive, and acceptance is much more challenging. Do not know the change of rules.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Feels like city private and elite public (like Lowell or Stuyvesant in NYC) are insanely hard to get into and insanely competitive. A reflection of the shift of families moving from the suburbs back into the cities over the last 15 or so years.
ETA... Tam high 86'
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Parrothead
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Beef Ravioli
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
When I was in high school, football was very popular and even though our team sucked all the cool kids went to the games. Spent most of my time in shop class. Highlight of the year was a big dance contest (I won - but not with the girl I took) and it was televised on American Bandstand.
Drunken knight
Footballguy
did that chick you met over the summer ever put out?
Brony
Footballguy
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Yes they do.Some things don't change. Know why?
'cause they stay the same age. Hehe hehe
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
There was definitely one teacher at my school that had a ton of rumors swirling. My junior year the seniors managed to get into the yearbook with all of the other awards "Most likely to succeed with Mrs. XXXXX"
brun
Footballguy
When I was in 9th grade, I remember a friend of mine got detention for violating the dress code by wearing jeans. The next year I was a a different high school where the dress code had been recently abolished. Hotpants!
I seem to recall we had a class called computer lab and the kids wore lab coats while in that class.
We had an open campus and the Hare Krishna people would try to recruit kids right off the school grounds.
A couple of times a fire alarm would go off and there would be someone outside shouting things about Vietnam. The kids I hung out with didn't really care that much. We would have been much more excited if Bobby Orr made an appearance.
I seem to recall we had a class called computer lab and the kids wore lab coats while in that class.
We had an open campus and the Hare Krishna people would try to recruit kids right off the school grounds.
A couple of times a fire alarm would go off and there would be someone outside shouting things about Vietnam. The kids I hung out with didn't really care that much. We would have been much more excited if Bobby Orr made an appearance.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
At least from my experience, kids are not coming to school high or drunk. It's all much more straight laced and the kids are so nice. They are angels.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
^This.
Our school didn't have AC and by June it would get pretty sweltering in class. It was the 80's and girls typically dressed conservatively. But on those hot days, they would wear oversized boxer shorts, usually white or yellow. Typically not the most flattering look, but just seeing a girl's legs was enough to get me hard. I loved when they would sit with their legs crossed and absentmindedly fidget, flapping a sandal against the soles of their feet. This is pretty tame stuff, but at that age it didn't take much. I wouldn't be able to handle it nowadays. No way.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Back in my day ALL schools were 5 miles away and up on a steep hill.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
We bought these for a nickel a piece and whipped them up at the cafeteria drop ceiling tiles until they would stick.
Not many choices for lunch and no pop machines - only milk cartons and orange drink cartons. One segment of kids pretty much only dined on orange drink and bbq chips.
Andrew74
Footballguy
I have a 7th grader and my wife and I had to make some decisions about classes that would impact her HS class options and credits. The HS here has about 4 different degree options. Preparing for HS reminds me of my senior year preparing for college.
My 3rd grader just had a "college day." Yes, 3rd grade.
WTF?!?!
And don't get me started on sports. Nobody can just sign up and play a sport. There's 10 different levels of baseball for a single kid to pick from. And the never ending classes you can take on the side to get a leg up. Heck, if that isn't enough, there's plenty of personal trainers you can hire!
James Daulton
Footballguy
Drunken knight
Footballguy
while i only knew a handful of people who went to tam, i am sure you and i share acquaintances. i had very good friends throughout marin
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Got a good hippie story. 1970, in my high school, hothothot girl (just got the impulse to google her - this is a current picture of her in her mid 60s) decided to go TOTALLY hippie. No grooming, no brassiere, raggish clothes. Now, boys had to wear ties then in my public HS and the requirement for girls was that their dress or skirt (required) be of a length that, when they kneeled, the hem would touch the floor. It was not uncommon to see girls kneeling in the hallway so teachers/administrators could check.
One morning, Rande came into school wearing a way-too-short skirt and was immediately sent home to change. I was in my first after-lunch class, which happened to be in the first-floor classroom closest to the central entrance. We're doin algebra or sumn when we hear a *clompclompclomp* in the hall. Some of us rush out to the corridor to see that Rande has returned wearing, apparently, her father's lace-up snow boots with the laces removed and the sides flapping as she walked, his rain slicker and NOTHING else. She had just the number of hooks fastened to not go to jail for indecent exposure. For years, in those pre-porn days, i recreated in my mind the image of her pendulous girlbags flopping this way & that and the threat of thatch reveal with every step before school admin rushed at her, whereupon she went to her knees to show them that her garb was of regulation length. Remarkable gal -
One morning, Rande came into school wearing a way-too-short skirt and was immediately sent home to change. I was in my first after-lunch class, which happened to be in the first-floor classroom closest to the central entrance. We're doin algebra or sumn when we hear a *clompclompclomp* in the hall. Some of us rush out to the corridor to see that Rande has returned wearing, apparently, her father's lace-up snow boots with the laces removed and the sides flapping as she walked, his rain slicker and NOTHING else. She had just the number of hooks fastened to not go to jail for indecent exposure. For years, in those pre-porn days, i recreated in my mind the image of her pendulous girlbags flopping this way & that and the threat of thatch reveal with every step before school admin rushed at her, whereupon she went to her knees to show them that her garb was of regulation length. Remarkable gal -
facook
Footballguy
My junior and senior years, I most often had 2 eggs, or oatmeal, or nothing for breakfast at 5:15 am. Then went to Early Bird Weightlifting at 6:30. School started at 7:30. At 11:30 I'd have a pepsi and an ice cream sandwich from the student store. After school, at 2:30, I'd go to football or basketball practice. Couldn't figure out why I was SO tired every evening. And also ravenous. What a dork.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
We had two such scandals in my school. My sophomore year the freshman girls basketball coach got fired, he was a recent grad of our school, so he was only 22 or so, and he was trying to make his way up the coaching ladder. He got fired for inappropriate relationships with his players. No charges were filed so I am not sure what was actually found.
The 2nd case was about a female teacher that was recently divorced and in her 40's. It was mostly rumors, but it was investigated, but nothing happened and rumors continued. I remember a few break ups because some of the girls in my class wrre convinced sonething happened and more rumors came out until I graduated a year and a half later, but she was still there teaching.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
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In '84, I had to give an expository (explanatory) speech in my English class. Thus, I picked up my rotary phone and dialed the *internet*...War Games style...and *downloaded* the Anarchist's Cookbook....took about a day or two.
From that, I crafted a *humorous* speech on how to make homemade explosives, fragmentation grenades, back-yard booby-traps and other methods of mayhem including the infamous "ping-pong ball method" to blow up a car (now obsolete with the change to the smaller unleaded gas tank receptacles).
Got an A+.
Today, I would get handcuffs....
...to be fair though, I prolly deserved handcuffs back in '84. :(
From that, I crafted a *humorous* speech on how to make homemade explosives, fragmentation grenades, back-yard booby-traps and other methods of mayhem including the infamous "ping-pong ball method" to blow up a car (now obsolete with the change to the smaller unleaded gas tank receptacles).
Got an A+.
Today, I would get handcuffs....
...to be fair though, I prolly deserved handcuffs back in '84. :(
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DallasDMac
Footballguy
Wow, that is sad and depressing. Glad I am my kids were raised before all this became the norm. Sounds like kids no longer have childhoods. They just have job training from day one.
