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I read a tweet this morning with a quote attributed to coaches where they said they believed in his talent but "wasn't quite getting it". They referred to Turbin as more consistent and professional.

Not quite "getting it" is coach speak for any number of deficiencies but I suspect his talent has just not rounded into the complete game he needs to have.

 
The obvious question here is, if he was good, why would Seattle just give him away (or cut him, which they reportedly would have done if they hadn't traded him)?
There could be a lot more than just the "Dallas" tweet which included fond words of Family watching games..

I might be mistaken, but I would think his agent could have spoke up too.. I understand that its not like Seattle had H. Walker riding the pine.. But the guy appears to be going nowhere fast. Its possible that an agent could only hope to see one real multimillion yr. deal...

Seattle has to have a conscience that the young man wants to play Ball. Theres a lot of news storys (used to be anyway) that CMike is a baller who needs an opportunity.. The Seahawks know how to evaluate and draft too. They most likely already see a small handful of RBs who will be soon turning 21, and fully capabale of getting the job done. Cheaper, and recovers from injury sooner.

All that being said, if it was me? Id let him go, if I thought he had a shot to really do something! I would want potential players for my Team to know 'This is where you Hope to play', but we will get ya ready to Play!

p.s. The dallas tweet, could have been a slap in the face or biting the hand that feeds
Are you saying that the Seahawks let their backups go b since their backups want to be starters and they "have a conscience"? For realz?
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
The trade speaks for itself. Seattle doesn't think he has that much potential. If they did, they would have kept him or asked for more in a trade. When you hear galloping, look for horses, not zebras. When a team trades a player for a conditional 7th round pick the odds are they probably don't want him around rather than they have a conscience are are "doing right" by him.

That isn't to say he can't and won't do well. A number of respected analysts think he runs like a beast but there is more to playing RB on the NFL level than just running hard.

P.S. Not a big fan but not a hater. Never really watched him much. Just being pragmatic on the situation.

 
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The obvious question here is, if he was good, why would Seattle just give him away (or cut him, which they reportedly would have done if they hadn't traded him)?
There could be a lot more than just the "Dallas" tweet which included fond words of Family watching games..

I might be mistaken, but I would think his agent could have spoke up too.. I understand that its not like Seattle had H. Walker riding the pine.. But the guy appears to be going nowhere fast. Its possible that an agent could only hope to see one real multimillion yr. deal...

Seattle has to have a conscience that the young man wants to play Ball. Theres a lot of news storys (used to be anyway) that CMike is a baller who needs an opportunity.. The Seahawks know how to evaluate and draft too. They most likely already see a small handful of RBs who will be soon turning 21, and fully capabale of getting the job done. Cheaper, and recovers from injury sooner.

All that being said, if it was me? Id let him go, if I thought he had a shot to really do something! I would want potential players for my Team to know 'This is where you Hope to play', but we will get ya ready to Play!

p.s. The dallas tweet, could have been a slap in the face or biting the hand that feeds
Are you saying that the Seahawks let their backups go b since their backups want to be starters and they "have a conscience"? For realz?
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
The trade speaks for itself. Seattle doesn't think he has that much potential. If they did, they would have kept him or asked for more in a trade. When you hear galloping, look for horses, not zebras. When a team trades a player for a conditional 7th round pick the odds are they probably don't want him around rather than they have a conscience are are "doing right" by him.

That isn't to day he can't and won't do well. A number of respected analysts think he runs like a beast but there is more to playing RB on the NFL level than just running hard.

P.S. Not a big fan but not a hater. Never really watched him much. Just being pragmatic on the situation.
Hadnt we heard of "trade rumors" in the past?

I believe NFL teams go to great lengths to get the best 53 players to Win games, and care little to nothing about "keeping a guy to get his top trade value"

When your #54? Its time to Go brah!

For CMike, It would probably be good info to learn: Its better to keep your mouth shut, and let people think your ignorant as opposed to opening and removing all doubt. Better yet, If ya don't have anything good to say>? Don't say anything!

I was just asking if you were a Seahawks fan actually, my apology's for the confusion.. It don't matter really.

 
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
1)He was traded2) why? A few reasons. They liked Rawls and the control they have over him for the next 4 years versus 2 for cmike. Rawls fit the scheme better. Cmike is much better suited for Dallas and what they do then the Hawks. They had hoped he could be a one cut and go type guy but it never happened. They loved the talent and that's why they drafted him but talent doesn't always fit the scheme. When it doesn't fit the scheme you see guys fail.

 
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Sig is a fan of what was Randles upside in the 5th round as an RB3 for a fantasy team. Randle isn't a talented runner, he is average. Most in love with Randles love the offensive line.

Given the opportunity, cmike will win the job and not look back. They may or may not give him the opportunity.

 
cstu said:
Thunderlips said:
gabes1919 said:
I think something to remember is that the seahawks are in win now mode. If by they see no scenario in which they might play michael, ship him and give the roster spot to someone they might play
Why are they in "win now" anymore than any other team would/should be? Most of the key components of their team are just entering their prime........
All the excuses being made here are hilarious.

Face it: the Seahawks think he sucks.
What use is Michael to Seattle? Lynch is a top tier RB who will get the majority of their carries. Michael can be had for nothing on the FF waiver market and will be running behind one of the best OL in football. His competition is Randle (unproven) and McFadden (unhealthy). And maybe Seattle does think he sucks, but sometimes you have to fall into a good situation. Look at Justin Forsett last year. In 2013, he had 6 carries for 31 yards. SIX! The Jaguars didn't even want him. After being in the league for five years, he basically doubled his career yardage and TDs last year because of a fluke situation he fell into behind a solid OL. He ended up being one of the top WW pickups of 2014.

He is worth a shot - most people will be dropping pennies for high reward possibility.
I imagine part of that thought is that you're banking on the quality of the SEA front office. I'm not one to advocate that JAX has been apt at player analysis.
I mainly brought up Forsett because he was drafted by Seattle in 2008 and was stuck behind Lynch for most of 2010 and 2011.
I get you.....I'm just one who thinks that if he didn't have the talent to be in SEA's future (for the past three years) he probably won't be THAT good in DAL's present. Sure, he's a viable free agent pickup....and he shouldn't be on any waiver wire after today.....I just wouldn't be comfortable with him anything higher than a RB 4 on my team.
Everyone convieniently forgets that Lynch was himself traded to Seattle. Good backs do get traded.

 
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..

Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Waldman also has Randle in the forefront of his UDD article. Though I believe it was written (8/13) before the 3rd PS game where McFadden looked so good and obviously before this.

 
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
1)He was traded2) why? A few reasons. They liked Rawls and the control they have over him for the next 4 years versus 2 for cmike. Rawls fit the scheme better. Cmike is much better suited for Dallas and what they do then the Hawks. They had hoped he could be a one cut and go type guy but it never happened. They loved the talent and that's why they drafted him but talent doesn't always fit the scheme. When it doesn't fit the scheme you see guys fail.
I understand that ya may not care to explain this for the umpteenth time But a conditional 7th rnd pick is about as close a cut as ya can get.. Is it not.. Technically it was a fubar post on my part because I knew he was "traded", but was thinking of the post I was responding too (which included "let their good players go" or something)

Anyway, whats this conditional all mean exactly? I believe its play in so many games (6?) and the Cowboys surrender a future 7th? Does this mean the Cowboys want a test drive at the least? Does the players contract stay the same? What changes if he was actually cut? Theres a waiver process, (any team could claim) and a contract needs to be negotiated?

p.s. If anybody knows a trusted source in English which explains condtional picks / waives / contracts Id probably appreciate it very much (plz n ty)

 
cstu said:
Thunderlips said:
gabes1919 said:
I think something to remember is that the seahawks are in win now mode. If by they see no scenario in which they might play michael, ship him and give the roster spot to someone they might play
Why are they in "win now" anymore than any other team would/should be? Most of the key components of their team are just entering their prime........
All the excuses being made here are hilarious.

Face it: the Seahawks think he sucks.
What use is Michael to Seattle? Lynch is a top tier RB who will get the majority of their carries. Michael can be had for nothing on the FF waiver market and will be running behind one of the best OL in football. His competition is Randle (unproven) and McFadden (unhealthy). And maybe Seattle does think he sucks, but sometimes you have to fall into a good situation. Look at Justin Forsett last year. In 2013, he had 6 carries for 31 yards. SIX! The Jaguars didn't even want him. After being in the league for five years, he basically doubled his career yardage and TDs last year because of a fluke situation he fell into behind a solid OL. He ended up being one of the top WW pickups of 2014.

He is worth a shot - most people will be dropping pennies for high reward possibility.
I imagine part of that thought is that you're banking on the quality of the SEA front office. I'm not one to advocate that JAX has been apt at player analysis.
I mainly brought up Forsett because he was drafted by Seattle in 2008 and was stuck behind Lynch for most of 2010 and 2011.
I get you.....I'm just one who thinks that if he didn't have the talent to be in SEA's future (for the past three years) he probably won't be THAT good in DAL's present. Sure, he's a viable free agent pickup....and he shouldn't be on any waiver wire after today.....I just wouldn't be comfortable with him anything higher than a RB 4 on my team.
Everyone convieniently forgets that Lynch was himself traded to Seattle. Good backs do get traded.
This! and Lynch had not been able to cement himself as the starter there either... There was talk of him possibly going to Green Bay, but the asking price was too high for them... The rest, as they say, is history...

 
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cstu said:
Thunderlips said:
gabes1919 said:
I think something to remember is that the seahawks are in win now mode. If by they see no scenario in which they might play michael, ship him and give the roster spot to someone they might play
Why are they in "win now" anymore than any other team would/should be? Most of the key components of their team are just entering their prime........
All the excuses being made here are hilarious.

Face it: the Seahawks think he sucks.
What use is Michael to Seattle? Lynch is a top tier RB who will get the majority of their carries. Michael can be had for nothing on the FF waiver market and will be running behind one of the best OL in football. His competition is Randle (unproven) and McFadden (unhealthy). And maybe Seattle does think he sucks, but sometimes you have to fall into a good situation. Look at Justin Forsett last year. In 2013, he had 6 carries for 31 yards. SIX! The Jaguars didn't even want him. After being in the league for five years, he basically doubled his career yardage and TDs last year because of a fluke situation he fell into behind a solid OL. He ended up being one of the top WW pickups of 2014.

He is worth a shot - most people will be dropping pennies for high reward possibility.
I imagine part of that thought is that you're banking on the quality of the SEA front office. I'm not one to advocate that JAX has been apt at player analysis.
I mainly brought up Forsett because he was drafted by Seattle in 2008 and was stuck behind Lynch for most of 2010 and 2011.
I get you.....I'm just one who thinks that if he didn't have the talent to be in SEA's future (for the past three years) he probably won't be THAT good in DAL's present. Sure, he's a viable free agent pickup....and he shouldn't be on any waiver wire after today.....I just wouldn't be comfortable with him anything higher than a RB 4 on my team.
Everyone convieniently forgets that Lynch was himself traded to Seattle. Good backs do get traded.
This! and Lynch had not been able to cement himself as the starter there either... There was talk of him possibly going to Green Bay, but the asking price was too high for them... The rest, as they say, is history...
HUGE stretch to compare those situations. Time share vs not playing at all...

 
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..

Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Waldman also has Randle in the forefront of his UDD article. Though I believe it was written (8/13) before the 3rd PS game where McFadden looked so good and obviously before this.
I do not wish to sound too negative, on this new change of scenery. However, I honestly believe both backs are capable, and may be used in some tandem fashion too. But I also know that the same team gave a few carrys to their third RB, who became the bell cow after six weeks..

I would imagine learning basic plays, may not be expecting too much. Its not like relearning route running or something.

Overall though, not to bring up some bs for rehashing, but I believe (hopefully wrongly) that there may still be an issue w/ pass- blocking. Basically I look forward to an interview w/ Romo who has an opportunity to discuss either his "dammit Donald situations" Or possibly touch on his confidence in playcalling and having the best players on the field (something along that line.)

Technically, I havnt even added CMikes name to my sig (removed DGB though) So I have space for something good..

p.s. Im not sure If Bell Cow is correct, but he did appear to receive a lot of carrys

 
At least we will get some clarity on Michael now. If he can't ascend this depth chart, I think it's pretty safe to drop him.

 
Nobody asked me, but respected FBG staffer Cecil Lammey is a big CMike believer post Dallas trade.
I don't want to sound like an (_)_) but sometimes Cecil is almost too upbeat on some players..

Now Im not saying that I don't believe we all may, and/or some/most FBG guys do/don't.

Lets just say, Id love to listen to a recording of Cecil backing off his story. What I mean is, hes convincingly adamant, but nobodys right 100% of the time..

He did nail the Denver backfield though (IF I remember correctly) so don't confuse my lack of 100% backing with anything more than what Im saying. Cecil does not lack passion (I like it alot..)

 
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..

Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Waldman also has Randle in the forefront of his UDD article. Though I believe it was written (8/13) before the 3rd PS game where McFadden looked so good and obviously before this.
I do not wish to sound too negative, on this new change of scenery. However, I honestly believe both backs are capable, and may be used in some tandem fashion too. But I also know that the same team gave a few carrys to their third RB, who became the bell cow after six weeks..

I would imagine learning basic plays, may not be expecting too much. Its not like relearning route running or something.

Overall though, not to bring up some bs for rehashing, but I believe (hopefully wrongly) that there may still be an issue w/ pass- blocking. Basically I look forward to an interview w/ Romo who has an opportunity to discuss either his "dammit Donald situations" Or possibly touch on his confidence in playcalling and having the best players on the field (something along that line.)

Technically, I havnt even added CMikes name to my sig (removed DGB though) So I have space for something good..

p.s. Im not sure If Bell Cow is correct, but he did appear to receive a lot of carrys
Just to understand - which team are you referring to in the underlined? Denver? Baltimore?

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..

Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Waldman also has Randle in the forefront of his UDD article. Though I believe it was written (8/13) before the 3rd PS game where McFadden looked so good and obviously before this.
I do not wish to sound too negative, on this new change of scenery. However, I honestly believe both backs are capable, and may be used in some tandem fashion too. But I also know that the same team gave a few carrys to their third RB, who became the bell cow after six weeks..

I would imagine learning basic plays, may not be expecting too much. Its not like relearning route running or something.

Overall though, not to bring up some bs for rehashing, but I believe (hopefully wrongly) that there may still be an issue w/ pass- blocking. Basically I look forward to an interview w/ Romo who has an opportunity to discuss either his "dammit Donald situations" Or possibly touch on his confidence in playcalling and having the best players on the field (something along that line.)

Technically, I havnt even added CMikes name to my sig (removed DGB though) So I have space for something good..

p.s. Im not sure If Bell Cow is correct, but he did appear to receive a lot of carrys
Just to understand - which team are you referring to, which turned to their 3rd string RB after 6 weeks? Do you mean the comparison to Forsett?
Demarco Murray five weeks in due to Felix (sprain) left him and Choice The 6th week (I believe) earned title RB1

p.s. DGB had failed some tests, and was involved in some physical violence or something etc. He may be a great player at some point!

 
I read a tweet this morning with a quote attributed to coaches where they said they believed in his talent but "wasn't quite getting it". They referred to Turbin as more consistent and professional.

Not quite "getting it" is coach speak for any number of deficiencies but I suspect his talent has just not rounded into the complete game he needs to have.
Maybe Micheal is actually a genius, maybe he actually "got it" but did coach-irritating things on purpose like continuing to carry the ball in the same hand to pretend like he didn't "get it" so Seattle would trade him.

 
cstu said:
Thunderlips said:
gabes1919 said:
I think something to remember is that the seahawks are in win now mode. If by they see no scenario in which they might play michael, ship him and give the roster spot to someone they might play
Why are they in "win now" anymore than any other team would/should be? Most of the key components of their team are just entering their prime........
All the excuses being made here are hilarious.

Face it: the Seahawks think he sucks.
What use is Michael to Seattle? Lynch is a top tier RB who will get the majority of their carries. Michael can be had for nothing on the FF waiver market and will be running behind one of the best OL in football. His competition is Randle (unproven) and McFadden (unhealthy). And maybe Seattle does think he sucks, but sometimes you have to fall into a good situation. Look at Justin Forsett last year. In 2013, he had 6 carries for 31 yards. SIX! The Jaguars didn't even want him. After being in the league for five years, he basically doubled his career yardage and TDs last year because of a fluke situation he fell into behind a solid OL. He ended up being one of the top WW pickups of 2014.

He is worth a shot - most people will be dropping pennies for high reward possibility.
I imagine part of that thought is that you're banking on the quality of the SEA front office. I'm not one to advocate that JAX has been apt at player analysis.
I mainly brought up Forsett because he was drafted by Seattle in 2008 and was stuck behind Lynch for most of 2010 and 2011.
I get you.....I'm just one who thinks that if he didn't have the talent to be in SEA's future (for the past three years) he probably won't be THAT good in DAL's present. Sure, he's a viable free agent pickup....and he shouldn't be on any waiver wire after today.....I just wouldn't be comfortable with him anything higher than a RB 4 on my team.
Everyone convieniently forgets that Lynch was himself traded to Seattle. Good backs do get traded.
This! and Lynch had not been able to cement himself as the starter there either... There was talk of him possibly going to Green Bay, but the asking price was too high for them... The rest, as they say, is history...
HUGE stretch to compare those situations. Time share vs not playing at all...
Not saying they are the same. Just pointing out that the narrative that if a back is being traded he must not be very good.

The truth is backs are not valued in real football as they are in fantasy.

All the CM trade says is they want a player now and can get a back off the street if needed. It says more about the veteran quality skill set of F Jackson than it says anything about CM.

Backs are expendable, even Lynch was.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Does anyone believe in DMC or Randle?
Im pretty sure Sig is a fan of Randle..

Isnt DMC kinda like a Diva or something? I know he was bad when he should been good Great when he shoulda probably been bad?
Waldman also has Randle in the forefront of his UDD article. Though I believe it was written (8/13) before the 3rd PS game where McFadden looked so good and obviously before this.
I do not wish to sound too negative, on this new change of scenery. However, I honestly believe both backs are capable, and may be used in some tandem fashion too. But I also know that the same team gave a few carrys to their third RB, who became the bell cow after six weeks..

I would imagine learning basic plays, may not be expecting too much. Its not like relearning route running or something.

Overall though, not to bring up some bs for rehashing, but I believe (hopefully wrongly) that there may still be an issue w/ pass- blocking. Basically I look forward to an interview w/ Romo who has an opportunity to discuss either his "dammit Donald situations" Or possibly touch on his confidence in playcalling and having the best players on the field (something along that line.)

Technically, I havnt even added CMikes name to my sig (removed DGB though) So I have space for something good..

p.s. Im not sure If Bell Cow is correct, but he did appear to receive a lot of carrys
Just to understand - which team are you referring to, which turned to their 3rd string RB after 6 weeks? Do you mean the comparison to Forsett?
Demarco Murray five weeks in due to Felix (sprain) left him and Choice The 6th week (I believe) earned title RB1

p.s. DGB had failed some tests, and was involved in some physical violence or something etc. He may be a great player at some point!
Ok I see, great point, thanks.

 
I read a tweet this morning with a quote attributed to coaches where they said they believed in his talent but "wasn't quite getting it". They referred to Turbin as more consistent and professional.

Not quite "getting it" is coach speak for any number of deficiencies but I suspect his talent has just not rounded into the complete game he needs to have.
Maybe Micheal is actually a genius, maybe he actually "got it" but did coach-irritating things on purpose like continuing to carry the ball in the same hand to pretend like he didn't "get it" so Seattle would trade him.
Players can turn the corner on immaturity or professionalism issues, especially when they see their career flash before their eyes.

Does anyone have any observations how the Cowboys blocking scheme or offense might actually be more advantageous vs what Seattle was running, in terms of Michael's skills? Big difference, similar, no difference?

 
Im sorry guys I work nights So its not 10 AM for me Its more like 10PM

I enjoy posting an all, and understand reading comprehension is a gift or what not..

But, please know Im attempting to post honest info from the gut, because of the help that you all provide.. (okay, maybe a select few) Who knows maybe the guys I respected most, don't post anymore..

I wasn't implying "Ignore Cecil" in the least.. But if your a newbie? Id suggest not ignoring your gut on this specific situation..

I mean is it okay to say: The Seahags just gifted the Cowboys their MVP back for this Season? Im not saying its impossible as scheme was pointed out above, but RB1 when? post Bye week?

Honestly I kinda enjoyed hearing the plug in a sense at the time. I was already having my doubts, and considering other backs like the Panthers #2RB CAP

 
If Christine Michael was that good the Seahawks would have kept him to replace their 30 year old RB who is on his last legs in the next year or so.

 
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Given the injury history of the 3 backs in front of him Michael may not even have to beat them out for the job.

 
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
1)He was traded2) why? A few reasons. They liked Rawls and the control they have over him for the next 4 years versus 2 for cmike. Rawls fit the scheme better. Cmike is much better suited for Dallas and what they do then the Hawks. They had hoped he could be a one cut and go type guy but it never happened. They loved the talent and that's why they drafted him but talent doesn't always fit the scheme. When it doesn't fit the scheme you see guys fail.
Thank-you!

 
Seahags kept Fred Jackson and Rawls and dumped him for a seventh

Stranger things have happened...I remember the Giants cutting Ryan Grant, where he went on to thousand yards seasons in GB....

 
At least we will get some clarity on Michael now. If he can't ascend this depth chart, I think it's pretty safe to drop him.
Agreed. And I think that's all us Michael owners were hoping for at this point. Either he is going to get a shot or he isn't. There's no HOF RB on the Dallas roster, so at least we get a better idea of whether or not this guy is going to be able to succeed competing with his peers.

 
Seahags kept Fred Jackson and Rawls and dumped him for a seventh

Stranger things have happened...I remember the Giants cutting Ryan Grant, where he went on to thousand yards seasons in GB....
you remember incorrectly. packers actually traded a late pick for grant.
 
Michel Robinson said in Seattle they ask RB's to do more than Dallas does and if given the chance he could take off.

Did the Seahawks ever explain what "getting it" meant? Was it maturity, being in the right place on blitz pickups, being in the right place for dump off passes, etc?

I never knew exactly what they meant.

 
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If Christine Michael was that good the Seahawks would have kept him to replace their 30 year old RB who is on his last legs in the next year or so.
Really, this is what I keep thinking. Seahawks could have locked him up after the year with a long term deal for not-big dollars.

If he was this insane talent, they could have tried to keep him. He was traded for what guys that are about to get cut get traded for.

They think Rawls is better than him.

They could be wrong, every team is from time to time, but none of what has happened with him in years is very good.

 
If Christine Michael was that good the Seahawks would have kept him to replace their 30 year old RB who is on his last legs in the next year or so.
Really, this is what I keep thinking. Seahawks could have locked him up after the year with a long term deal for not-big dollars. If he was this insane talent, they could have tried to keep him. He was traded for what guys that are about to get cut get traded for.

They think Rawls is better than him.

They could be wrong, every team is from time to time, but none of what has happened with him in years is very good.
They think Rawls is better for their scheme.
 
Not saying they are the same. Just pointing out that the narrative that if a back is being traded he must not be very good.
I don't think that's the narrative at all. You're kind of lopping off the back half of the narrative, the part where he was traded for almost literally nothing.

The jury is still out on Michael, but comparing this trade for a conditional 7th round pick because Seattle thought they could replace him with the UDFA they had just brought in is in no way comparable to Buffalo moving Lynch for a 4th and a 5th round pick because they thought they could replace him with the RB they had just drafted 11th overall.

 
Pass blocking is not an issue, much improved in that area. A Dallas beat guy reported pass blocking as one reason they went with him over West fwiw.

 
That right there ^^^^^^^ has got to get you excited. Except West sucks. Still if he's better at pass blocking than Randle he could be thrown into more touches if McFadden goes down.

 
Not saying they are the same. Just pointing out that the narrative that if a back is being traded he must not be very good.
I don't think that's the narrative at all. You're kind of lopping off the back half of the narrative, the part where he was traded for almost literally nothing.

The jury is still out on Michael, but comparing this trade for a conditional 7th round pick because Seattle thought they could replace him with the UDFA they had just brought in is in no way comparable to Buffalo moving Lynch for a 4th and a 5th round pick because they thought they could replace him with the RB they had just drafted 11th overall.
I am not comparing the trade to Lynch's trade. I am simply pointing out that:

1. Backs get traded

2. Sometimes the backs are actually good

3. Backs are not highly valued in the NFL and are considered expendable, so what the Hawks got in return is not relevant in regards to the players talent.

Backs are now rarely drafted in the first round anymore because they are not valued.

All you need out of a fantasy back is opportunity. Michael represents a combination of perceived talent and relative speculative opportunity in a positive pro running offense.

 
Michel Robinson said in Seattle they ask RB's to do more than Dallas does and if given the chance he could take off.

Did the Seahawks ever explain what "getting it" meant? Was it maturity, being in the right place on blitz pickups, being in the right place for dump off passes, etc?

I never knew exactly what they meant.
Yeah I don't get that either, they give Lynch the ball, he looks for running room and runs as hard as he can for as long as he can, not sure what there is to get from that., especially if you don't play passing downs and have to pick up a blitz.
 
Can you explain why C. Michaels was cut? Did they save face by holding onto a 2nd rnd pick for awhile?

p.s. You a Fan?
1)He was traded2) why? A few reasons. They liked Rawls and the control they have over him for the next 4 years versus 2 for cmike. Rawls fit the scheme better. Cmike is much better suited for Dallas and what they do then the Hawks. They had hoped he could be a one cut and go type guy but it never happened. They loved the talent and that's why they drafted him but talent doesn't always fit the scheme. When it doesn't fit the scheme you see guys fail.
So the Seahawks run a one cut and go scheme, what do the Cowboys run and how exactly is it a better fit for him?

 
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Where is he going in drafts now ?
I did an in person draft about two miles (literally) from the Death star...I mean ATT stadium in arlington yesterday and CM went undrafted. Not only in cowboyville, but some A & M fans around. Pretty much meh from that group. basically, he was thought of no more than any other 3rd string running being traded for a late pick with people who are familiar both with his college career and the team he is going to.

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Randle went 70th and DMC went 101...the thought was that dallas is going to be a messy committee all year with Michael adding to the messy versus being some sort of answer.

 
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Having done some further reading, particularly from those who've watched CM film as well as follow the Cowboys closely, it appears this:

CM is the most powerful of the 4 backs on the Cowboys roster. He's the biggest, at 220 lbs +. This clearly has implications for short yardage and GL, which are things that the other three backs are not known for. The film review showed him not to be overly elusive in the open field. More of a banger in the Demarco Murray mold. Looks capable of getting the "dirty yards" that Garrett commented on frequently last year with Murray.

Dallas reportedly was in conversation with both Denver and Cleveland. They liked CM better than Ball and West. Felt that he was a better fit for their scheme and complement to their existing backs. Had the physical characteristics (size) to be an effective pass blocker.

Randle and DMC are likely more explosive/open field runners. DMC is the top back in pass pro. CM has the size to do it well. What's not clear is if he can get consistency in reads for pass pro. That will be a key to him getting material snaps. He's got to be assignment sound for pass pro for him to get major work. Dallas wont jeopardize Romo, the real key to their success this year..

 
I agree with all those saying the Cowboys and the rest of the football world will know in the first 3 or so games what kind of role CMike will have.

With that being said I drafted him in the 14th round of a 16 round draft last night.

 
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