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The Richardson grab looks that much better with the latest Blackmon faux pas.Heckert. :thumbup:
There is a world of difference in terms of talent level between the two without the off-field issues. T-Rich will challenge for best back in the league in his second year. Blackmon may never reach the elite tier of WRs.
I agree. I was on board all along.In response to the post above, I really hope that Hardesty is back to 100%. I remember how good he looked in preseason his rookie year. If so, then they'll have a nice 2nd back to spell Richardson and there would be no excuse for not using a run heavy approach.
I'd rather Jackson emerge as the #2, he offers a more diverse and better complimentary skill set.
 
Browns thought Robert Griffin III was 'too small'

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

The narrative is being written. Browns first round pick Brandon Weeden had "the look of a No. 1 quarterback" according to The Plain Dealer at Tuesday's minicamp. Weeden is the one meeting with the media after practice. Colt McCoy is an afterthought.

Weeden is being sold. The other options Cleveland had at quarterback this offseason are being discredited. Veteran Browns beat writer Tony Grossi writes that the Browns only pursued Robert Griffin III "enough to say that they tried." Griffin was viewed as "too small" and "eager to show how fast he was."

The Browns didn't like Matt Flynn either: "No bigger than McCoy with a similarly popgun arm. He was never seriously considered."

Or Ryan Tannehill: "His maturity as a quarterback and field leader were so lacking that he turned them off in personal interviews. He didn’t project as a leader."

Weeden, according to the narrative, emerged as the best option. We could swallow this entire story a little better if it didn't suggest that the Browns actually preferred Weeden to giving up picks for Griffin. That's revisionist history. (The Browns' lack of interest in Flynn and Tannehill, on the other hand, was readily apparent.)

We have no idea if Weeden can be successful as a 28-year-old rookie starting quarterback. He will get a chance to try. Grossi says Weeden has the strongest arm the team has seen in years and accuracy reminiscent of Bernie Kosar.

Now all Weeden has to do is show he can keep that accuracy when tackling is allowed. And, you know, when he faces defenses other than the Browns.
 
Browns thought Robert Griffin III was 'too small'

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

The narrative is being written. Browns first round pick Brandon Weeden had "the look of a No. 1 quarterback" according to The Plain Dealer at Tuesday's minicamp. Weeden is the one meeting with the media after practice. Colt McCoy is an afterthought.

Weeden is being sold. The other options Cleveland had at quarterback this offseason are being discredited. Veteran Browns beat writer Tony Grossi writes that the Browns only pursued Robert Griffin III "enough to say that they tried." Griffin was viewed as "too small" and "eager to show how fast he was."

The Browns didn't like Matt Flynn either: "No bigger than McCoy with a similarly popgun arm. He was never seriously considered."

Or Ryan Tannehill: "His maturity as a quarterback and field leader were so lacking that he turned them off in personal interviews. He didn’t project as a leader."

Weeden, according to the narrative, emerged as the best option. We could swallow this entire story a little better if it didn't suggest that the Browns actually preferred Weeden to giving up picks for Griffin. That's revisionist history. (The Browns' lack of interest in Flynn and Tannehill, on the other hand, was readily apparent.)

We have no idea if Weeden can be successful as a 28-year-old rookie starting quarterback. He will get a chance to try. Grossi says Weeden has the strongest arm the team has seen in years and accuracy reminiscent of Bernie Kosar.

Now all Weeden has to do is show he can keep that accuracy when tackling is allowed. And, you know, when he faces defenses other than the Browns.
Hm-m-m-m. Is Grossi back at the PD?
 
browns really trying hard to convince themselves that weeden was their #1 guy. they're still talking rg3.....2 months after the draft!!! talk about your guy and stop worrying about other players!!

they ponied up for rg3....didn't get. so they found themselves reaching for a 28 year old rookie that's got to be good in year 1. or fans will be calling for his replacement...quick

thought they made a good looking deal for Julio Jones at the time....but they better pray this old rookie works out at qb.

 
Trent Richardson named likely starter for Browns

By Marc Sessler

Writer

No surprises out of Cleveland, where Pat Shurmur hinted Thursday that Trent Richardson is closing in on the team's starting running back job.

The Browns coach told The Plain Dealer it's "probably safe" to assume the first-round pick will sit atop the depth chart when the Philadelphia Eagles come to town for the season opener.

Other news and notes out from this week's minicamp:

• Brandon Weeden has been praised for his arm strength and accuracy in Browns practices, but the rookie passer suffered through precision issues Wednesday, according to Marty Gitlin of CBSSports.com. Weeden underthrew receivers and was intercepted by free safety Usama Young on a pass intended for tight end Evan Moore. Shurmur told reporters this week he wants to seal up the quarterback competition by training camp. The second-year coach expanded on the already decided race between Weeden and Colt McCoy, saying Thursday wants to see a "good body" of work before making his decision.

• Excuse Montario Hardesty for ignoring the Richardson nugget from above. He believes he's every bit the runner the former Alabama star is: "Oh, yeah," Hardesty told The Plain Dealer. "That's just confidence. You have to have that in the NFL. I feel like I'm as good any back that's playing in the league."

Hardesty spent the offseason working out with some of the NFL's top-flight backs and came away with a promising self-assessment.

"That's how I know I can still be one of the best in the NFL," he said. "I trained in Florida with a lot of guys that are considered big-time running backs, including Arian (Foster), and I know I'm just as good."

No end to the lofty chatter here in June.
 
Charles Barkley's old Philly pal Howard Eskin spreading rumors that the Browns may be up for sale... Lerner has been a good provider but not so much a great owner but if this is true, I'll take the devil we know....

 
Colt McCoy's time in Cleveland must come to an end

"NFL Total Access" kicked off its 32 teams in 32 days series this week. Around the League will write an accompanying post each night, focusing on one goal that each team needs to accomplish before Week 1. So far we've handled the Colts, Rams and Vikings.

Browns must trade Colt McCoy

The list of to-do's in Cleveland is long and dense, but this franchise must handle one item of business before September.

It's time to free Colt McCoy.

Despite the organization's rich semantics describing a quarterback competition here in June, rookie Brandon Weeden is being groomed to go from Week 1. Last year's starter, McCoy, has been toyed with this offseason. It's a business, and nobody promised McCoy a pleasant journey, but it's better for the team and the player to start fresh.

Don't read this the wrong way. It's no indictment of McCoy. He's been a positive locker room presence; he worked hard through last summer's lockout and beyond. The jury is out on his ability to start in the NFL, but McCoy isn't about to get a fair chance to win the job in Cleveland. He deserves a fresh start.

To the team's benefit, it would clear up any questions about Weeden's place in the pecking order. Nobody is looking over their shoulder at Seneca Wallace.

Parting with McCoy is a roll of the dice -- the Browns haven't had a passer start and finish the season since Tim Couch did it in 2001. If they believe enough in Weeden to use the 22nd pick in the draft on his talents, there shouldn't be any problem making this clear commitment.

If Cleveland believes they have their franchise passer -- at long last -- then it's time to move forward. No more quarterback controversies. No half-baked competition. No more words.

Free Colt McCoy.
 
browns really trying hard to convince themselves that weeden was their #1 guy. they're still talking rg3.....2 months after the draft!!! talk about your guy and stop worrying about other players!!they ponied up for rg3....didn't get. so they found themselves reaching for a 28 year old rookie that's got to be good in year 1. or fans will be calling for his replacement...quickthought they made a good looking deal for Julio Jones at the time....but they better pray this old rookie works out at qb.
Link? The only person I know talking about RG3 is Tony Grossi.Seriously, is there a reporter out there who makes up more stores than Tony Grossi? It amazes me how many people read his #### and treat it as gospel.
 
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Colt McCoy's time in Cleveland must come to an end

"NFL Total Access" kicked off its 32 teams in 32 days series this week. Around the League will write an accompanying post each night, focusing on one goal that each team needs to accomplish before Week 1. So far we've handled the Colts, Rams and Vikings.

Browns must trade Colt McCoy

The list of to-do's in Cleveland is long and dense, but this franchise must handle one item of business before September.

It's time to free Colt McCoy.

Despite the organization's rich semantics describing a quarterback competition here in June, rookie Brandon Weeden is being groomed to go from Week 1. Last year's starter, McCoy, has been toyed with this offseason. It's a business, and nobody promised McCoy a pleasant journey, but it's better for the team and the player to start fresh.

Don't read this the wrong way. It's no indictment of McCoy. He's been a positive locker room presence; he worked hard through last summer's lockout and beyond. The jury is out on his ability to start in the NFL, but McCoy isn't about to get a fair chance to win the job in Cleveland. He deserves a fresh start.

To the team's benefit, it would clear up any questions about Weeden's place in the pecking order. Nobody is looking over their shoulder at Seneca Wallace.

Parting with McCoy is a roll of the dice -- the Browns haven't had a passer start and finish the season since Tim Couch did it in 2001. If they believe enough in Weeden to use the 22nd pick in the draft on his talents, there shouldn't be any problem making this clear commitment.

If Cleveland believes they have their franchise passer -- at long last -- then it's time to move forward. No more quarterback controversies. No half-baked competition. No more words.

Free Colt McCoy.
This is whose opinion????McCoy is cheaper, younger, and more capable than Seneca Bowserman.

 
browns really trying hard to convince themselves that weeden was their #1 guy. they're still talking rg3.....2 months after the draft!!! talk about your guy and stop worrying about other players!!they ponied up for rg3....didn't get. so they found themselves reaching for a 28 year old rookie that's got to be good in year 1. or fans will be calling for his replacement...quickthought they made a good looking deal for Julio Jones at the time....but they better pray this old rookie works out at qb.
Link? The only person I know talking about RG3 is Tony Grossi.Seriously, is there a reporter out there who makes up more stores than Tony Grossi? It amazes me how many people read his #### and treat it as gospel.
:goodposting: x100
 
Colt McCoy's time in Cleveland must come to an end

"NFL Total Access" kicked off its 32 teams in 32 days series this week. Around the League will write an accompanying post each night, focusing on one goal that each team needs to accomplish before Week 1. So far we've handled the Colts, Rams and Vikings.

Browns must trade Colt McCoy

The list of to-do's in Cleveland is long and dense, but this franchise must handle one item of business before September.

It's time to free Colt McCoy.

Despite the organization's rich semantics describing a quarterback competition here in June, rookie Brandon Weeden is being groomed to go from Week 1. Last year's starter, McCoy, has been toyed with this offseason. It's a business, and nobody promised McCoy a pleasant journey, but it's better for the team and the player to start fresh.

Don't read this the wrong way. It's no indictment of McCoy. He's been a positive locker room presence; he worked hard through last summer's lockout and beyond. The jury is out on his ability to start in the NFL, but McCoy isn't about to get a fair chance to win the job in Cleveland. He deserves a fresh start.

To the team's benefit, it would clear up any questions about Weeden's place in the pecking order. Nobody is looking over their shoulder at Seneca Wallace.

Parting with McCoy is a roll of the dice -- the Browns haven't had a passer start and finish the season since Tim Couch did it in 2001. If they believe enough in Weeden to use the 22nd pick in the draft on his talents, there shouldn't be any problem making this clear commitment.

If Cleveland believes they have their franchise passer -- at long last -- then it's time to move forward. No more quarterback controversies. No half-baked competition. No more words.

Free Colt McCoy.
This is whose opinion????McCoy is cheaper, younger, and more capable than Seneca Bowserman.
agree. i don't understand the line of thinking that says the Browns have to move McCoy.he would already be gone if there was a market for him, which obviously, there is not.

eta: i'm not exactly sold that McCoy is better than Wallace right now.

 
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Based on Raider Nation's thread about HULU having team highlights now available, I watched the recap of the Browns' 85 season. There were some similarities to our current situation: a rookie QB who could throw the ball deep, very little WR talent, a stud rookie RB, and young, hungry talent on defense. The Browns went from 5-11 in 84, to winning the division in 85, to the 86 and 87 season that none of us will ever forget. Is it too much to hope that we are on a similar trajectory now?

 
Based on Raider Nation's thread about HULU having team highlights now available, I watched the recap of the Browns' 85 season. There were some similarities to our current situation: a rookie QB who could throw the ball deep, very little WR talent, a stud rookie RB, and young, hungry talent on defense. The Browns went from 5-11 in 84, to winning the division in 85, to the 86 and 87 season that none of us will ever forget. Is it too much to hope that we are on a similar trajectory now?
You can always hope. 8-8 isn't going to win the North this year though like it won the Central in '85.Kosar actually went 4-6 that year. Gary Danielson was 4-2 before injury knocked him out.
 
Seneca Wallace: No room for me, Colt McCoy

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Cleveland Browns veteran quarterback Seneca Wallace said recently that he'd be happy to mentor rookie first-round pick Brandon Weeden this year.

That information comes with a caveat: Wallace will mentor Weeden as the backup quarterback. He's said Monday via the Cleveland Plain-Dealer that he wouldn't want to be the No. 3 quarterback.

Wallace isn't sure whether he would ask for a trade, but he said there is "probably not" room for him, Weeden and McCoy on the roster.

McCoy didn't want to talk about trade scenarios Tuesday. He said his mind is on OTAs.

"When I come out to practice, in my mind I'm the starter," McCoy said.

Weeden is getting the first-team snaps, though. He once again had the first snap at practice Tuesday. The only competition here is going to be between Wallace and McCoy.

The loser of that battle doesn't seem likely to be with the Browns in September.
 
Based on Raider Nation's thread about HULU having team highlights now available, I watched the recap of the Browns' 85 season. There were some similarities to our current situation: a rookie QB who could throw the ball deep, very little WR talent, a stud rookie RB, and young, hungry talent on defense. The Browns went from 5-11 in 84, to winning the division in 85, to the 86 and 87 season that none of us will ever forget. Is it too much to hope that we are on a similar trajectory now?
I have heard some football and sports talk people say that Seneca could be #2 qb behind Weeden and McCoy #3. That is also similar to 1985 when rookie Kosar was starter, Gary Danielson was #2 and 1984 starter Paul McDonald was #3 and didn't take a snap. He was out of the NFL for good after 1986.
 
Worst Case would be an 0-fer...after all, we are not favored in ANY game this season by Vegas.

Best case would be about 10-6 in my opinion. It is possible if Weedon lights it up early and Keeps defenses from stacking the box on Richardson.

Personally, I see in the range of 2-6 wins (big range, I know...)

 
Steve Doerschuk: Ten things that are apparent for the spring Browns

By Steve Doerschuk

CantonRep.com staff writer

BEREA — Ten things we have learned in a month of watching Browns spring practice.

1, It is impossible to tell how well Trent Richardson will run the ball. He looks fine in the marshmallow world of practicing in a helmet and shorts, but he must prove himself in the mash of training camp contact and preseason games.

Yet, there hasn’t been a peep about anyone but Richardson being the No. 1 running back. Unlike at quarterback, this rookie is the unquestioned starter.

2, Free safety Eric Hagg is on the verge of becoming the second seventh-round Browns draft pick of the expansion era to open a year as a starter. Guard Paul Zukauskas was the first.

Hagg is smart and athletic, but his instincts, a bit suspect when he was at Nebraska, could be a trouble spot. On one practice play Tuesday, he was late sliding to a receiver who had found a gaping hole in the defense. Seneca Wallace easily lofted the ball over Hagg’s head for what might have been a long catch and run in a game.

3, Coaches are itching to get rookie Round 4 pick Travis Benjamin’s speed on the field.

Based on the large volume of work Benjamin has been getting, it appears the staff would love to make hay with sets that include Benjamin and Mohamed Massaquoi as the outside receivers, with Greg Little in the slot.

Benjamin has dropped more than a few balls, after which he routinely screams, “Aaaaaahhhhhhhh!” But the scouts think he has good enough hands to grow into a job.

“I know I can mostly run past anybody,” Benjamin says, “so I just work on the little things.”

4, There are a few weeds in the rookie quarterback’s game.

One time, Brandon Weeden overshot his former Oklahoma State teammate Josh Cooper by a mile on a corner route. On Tuesday, one pass over the middle was batted at the line and picked off by defensive tackle Scott Paxson. Other times, Weeden guns the football toward windows that won’t be nearly as wide as the ones he saw in his Cowboy days. The Browns cover men bat them away, sometimes coming close to interceptions.

It has been clear since the first day Weeden and Colt McCoy were on the field together that Weeden throws a harder, more accurate ball. It is not yet clear he can translate the skill to the early part of his rookie year.

5, Time has softened the blow for McCoy.

Drafting Weeden landed like a heavyweight champ’s roundhouse on McCoy’s chops. McCoy seemed stunned and uptight for a while, and the mood seeped into his performance in early practices.

Lately, McCoy seems to have come to his senses. He is trying to have fun and is throwing he ball better. He doesn’t come right out and say it, but the McCoy mindreaders hear him thinking that he can handle the job better than any rookie.

Weeden has shown plenty of promise, but he has struggled just enough — and McCoy has come around just enough — to leave a sliver of doubt as to whether Weeden will be announced as the starter by mid-August.

6, Rookie Round 2 pick Mitchell Schwartz has an iron grip on the right tackle job.

For a while, 2011 opening-day starter Oniel Cousins, a fifth-year pro, was getting work with the ones. Schwartz, however, has been on top of the physical, mental and emotional aspects of showing he can handle starting as a rookie.

It must be remembered that Cousins soon was replaced in 2011 by Artis Hicks, who was replaced by Tony Pashos. Schwartz has carried himself well in 2012.

7, The receiving corps is a reason to worry.

Watching drills makes one wonder whether Greg Little is fast enough to play outside or quick enough to play inside — and he had all those drops as a rookie. Mohamed Massaquoi has made some practice drops that make one wonder whether the chiefs’ projections of a breakout are wishful thinking.

Weeden seldom goes to Joshua Cribbs in team drills.

The rookie, Benjamin, looks skinny, and he was no great producer in college.

Weeden is experimenting plenty with tight end Ben Watson, but Watson has averaged only about 400 receiving yards in eight seasons, and he’s getting older. What Evan Moore and Jordan Cameron might do is raw theory.

You wonder whether this group is strong enough to help Weeden look good, and whether he is good enough to bring out what talents each man might have.

8, Scott Paxson is a fighter, but is he a player?

When defensive tackle Phil Taylor went down with a pectoral tear, the Browns lost a 2011 first-round pick.

Paxson has been the replacement starter through much of the spring. With him, the starting unit gets a player who was cut seven times by the Steelers and once by Green Bay and had played in a grand total of one NFL game prior to 2011.

Paxson is from Philadelphia and is a huge fan of the Rocky series. Like Rocky, a big part of his appeal is the underdog theme. His teammates and coaches like him a lot.

A big cheer went up Tuesday when he intercepted a Brandon Weeden pass that was batted at the line.

9, Wide receiver Josh Cooper is fun to watch in practice, but it’s practice.

A few years ago, some camp observers were convinced the Browns were on to something with a possession receiver named Kevin Kasper. They weren’t.

In 2009, there was talk that free agency pick-up Mike Furrey might do big things with his Columbus-area pal, Brady Quinn. It was Furrey’s last year in the league, and Quinn’s last with the Browns.

This year, Cooper is catching balls all over the place, and not just from his former college teammate, Weeden. He definitely knows how to get open — against guys wearing shorts.

On the other hand, Cooper has caught the eye as much as any receiver in camp; plus, that Weeden connection doesn’t hurt him one bit.

He and Weeden will be spending much of the summer break playing catch in Oklahoma.

10, Egos don’t seem to be a problem.

The offensive player roster doesn’t have much experience, but the teachers certainly do. Mike Holmgren, Brad Childress, Nolan Cromwell and Gil Haskell have been in the NFL forever.

All of them are substantially older than the head coach, Pat Shurmur. Yet, Shurmur is neither anyone’s puppet nor thin-skinned and sensitive about proving he knows more than the other guys.

One can’t be sure about what goes on behind closed doors, but these guys leave a sense that they work well together.

Childress and Cromwell, new to the Browns this year, could make a big difference.
 
Mike Holmgren: Wallace and McCoy are safe for now

By Marc Sessler

Writer

Years of ill fortune for the Cleveland Browns will continue unabated until the organization locates a franchise quarterback. Team president Mike Holmgren gets it. The Bernie Kosar-sized void on this roster is what compelled the Browns to draft Brandon Weeden in the first round of the draft just two years after selecting Colt McCoy.

Finding a starting passer is often a messy process. Feelings are hurt. Holmgren, however, delivered a little sunshine Thursday, telling reporters he believes the team has found something special in Brandon Weeden.

"He's as prepared to come in and start as any rookie I've seen in a long time," Holmgren said.

That wasn't all Holmgren shared during a wide-ranging, fluid chat with the media:

1. More on Weeden's progress: "He is gifted. There is a maturity level because of his age. He is a different rookie because of that," Holmgren said, but insisted the Weeden needed "to show us" he's ready to start. The team wants the quarterback derby wrapped up sooner than later: "We cannot go close to the first game and still have it going on," Holmgren said.

2. No fire sale at quarterback: Holmgren downplayed the notion the Browns will shop Colt McCoy or Seneca Wallace. "Right now the plan is not to," he said. "Something might happen as we approach training camp." (We'd be surprised to see all three of these passers on the roster come Week 1.)

3. Progress must be made: For a team that won four games last season, Holmgren believes the Browns have enough talent to "take a full, healthy jump on the field this year." That must start in the AFC North, where Cleveland went 0-6 against the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals in 2011.

4. Not for sale: Holmgren swatted at a recent report suggesting the Browns are up for sale. "There's no truth to that," he said.

5. On Jim Brown: Holmgren wants to put recent bad blood with Browns legend Jim Brown to bed. "Jim is one of my childhood heroes. ... Our relationship with Jim brown hasn't change and will never change," Holmgren told the room, insisting he'd welcome the legend back into the fold "with open arms" after Brown criticized the management style of owner Randy Lerner, among others.
 
Colt McCoy reportedly put on trading block by Browns

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

The Cleveland Browns reportedly tried to trade quarterback Colt McCoy during the draft. It didn't work, so the team kept him on the roster throughout the offseason.

Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com writes Friday: "When Weeden was drafted, I was told by an NFL source that the Browns didn’t want to 'pile on' McCoy and just release him. They were sensitive to the fact he had gotten such a raw deal already."

Mike Holmgren talked about that "raw deal" on Thursday.

"I think (Colt's) a wonderful young man, and a good football player," Holmgren said. "And if you are asking me to say was it fair last year? He had a tough go and he didn’t get as much help as I thought he was going to get. But heck, that’s football.”

Translation: Thanks for trying. It wasn't enough.

Seneca Wallace can't imagine there being enough room for him and McCoy on the roster. Wallace knows things. Holmgren is likely to look for a way out for McCoy.

"They would like to find McCoy a new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released. They will not demand much in a trade," Grossi writes.

A conditional late-round pick would probably get it done. We'd be on that happening. The Browns are trying to do McCoy a favor, but it doesn't do the 2012 Browns much of a favor to have this story drag out through August.
 
Colt McCoy reportedly put on trading block by Browns

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

The Cleveland Browns reportedly tried to trade quarterback Colt McCoy during the draft. It didn't work, so the team kept him on the roster throughout the offseason.

Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com writes Friday: "When Weeden was drafted, I was told by an NFL source that the Browns didn’t want to 'pile on' McCoy and just release him. They were sensitive to the fact he had gotten such a raw deal already."

Mike Holmgren talked about that "raw deal" on Thursday.

"I think (Colt's) a wonderful young man, and a good football player," Holmgren said. "And if you are asking me to say was it fair last year? He had a tough go and he didn’t get as much help as I thought he was going to get. But heck, that’s football.”

Translation: Thanks for trying. It wasn't enough.

Seneca Wallace can't imagine there being enough room for him and McCoy on the roster. Wallace knows things. Holmgren is likely to look for a way out for McCoy.

"They would like to find McCoy a new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released. They will not demand much in a trade," Grossi writes.

A conditional late-round pick would probably get it done. We'd be on that happening. The Browns are trying to do McCoy a favor, but it doesn't do the 2012 Browns much of a favor to have this story drag out through August.
:confused: What's dragging on? McCoy is the backup. If he can't be dealt for anything more than a 6th or 7th why trade him? A quality backup is invaluable and we haven't had a starter last a full season since the old stadium. Stash him and hope that if he's called upon he plays well enough to develop a trade market next off season; just don't start a QB controversy. We've made our bed with Weeden and now we must sleep in it.
 
I have no idea what team would be willing to trade for McCoy. I have to think both Kyle Boller and Chad Pennington would be more attractive to teams looking for a backup, and they are free agents. I would even place free agents Dennis Dixon and Jim Sorgi ahead of Colt. I mean, between Dixon, Sorgi and McCoy, I know that Dixon and Sorgi have the mentality to be a backup QB. I can't say for certain that McCoy won't cause locker room problems not being the main guy, especially if I'm some GM that hasn't been paying much attention to the Browns.

 
whatevs. for 540 he's gonna be the backup imo.

honestly wondering if Grossi has any contacts left after the way he flamed out.

 
If McCoy is the #3 there's a 100% chance he will ask for a trade. Browns should just cut him before training camp and be done with it. Seneca is the guy they want as the #2, so McCoy will be gone.

Both sides deserve a clean break (much like the whole Peyton Hillis situation).

 
Colt McCoy reportedly put on trading block by Browns

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

The Cleveland Browns reportedly tried to trade quarterback Colt McCoy during the draft. It didn't work, so the team kept him on the roster throughout the offseason.

Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com writes Friday: "When Weeden was drafted, I was told by an NFL source that the Browns didn’t want to 'pile on' McCoy and just release him. They were sensitive to the fact he had gotten such a raw deal already."

Mike Holmgren talked about that "raw deal" on Thursday.

"I think (Colt's) a wonderful young man, and a good football player," Holmgren said. "And if you are asking me to say was it fair last year? He had a tough go and he didn’t get as much help as I thought he was going to get. But heck, that’s football.”

Translation: Thanks for trying. It wasn't enough.

Seneca Wallace can't imagine there being enough room for him and McCoy on the roster. Wallace knows things. Holmgren is likely to look for a way out for McCoy.

"They would like to find McCoy a new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released. They will not demand much in a trade," Grossi writes.

A conditional late-round pick would probably get it done. We'd be on that happening. The Browns are trying to do McCoy a favor, but it doesn't do the 2012 Browns much of a favor to have this story drag out through August.
Grossi says "a source" said they didn't want to "pile on". How did this became "The Cleveland Browns reportedly tried to trade quarterback Colt McCoy during the draft"?
 
If McCoy is the #3 there's a 100% chance he will ask for a trade. Browns should just cut him before training camp and be done with it. Seneca is the guy they want as the #2, so McCoy will be gone.Both sides deserve a clean break (much like the whole Peyton Hillis situation).
Sounds like you're afraid he'll play for us again.
 
Mike Holmgren: Massaquoi ready for Browns breakout

During the OTAs and minicamp, which wrap up this week, there has been no shortage of stories about players poised to have breakout seasons in 2012.

One of those players is Cleveland Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi, who is coming off a season during which he caught a career-low 31 passes for 384 yards with two touchdowns. Of course, those numbers aren't too far from his career-highs in receptions (36, in 2010) and the 624 receiving yards with three touchdowns he had as a rookie. From an advanced metrics standpoint, Massaquoi has failed to crack the Top 70 in Football Outsiders' DYAR or DVOA in each of his three seasons in the NFL.

Still, the Browns must see something in Massaquoi, a holdover from the Eric Mangini era, Terry Pluto of The Plain Dealer wrote over the weekend.

"I think he's ready to have a breakout year," Browns president Mike Holmgren.

As a second-round pick out of the SEC back in 2009, many would have expected a breakout season to have come much earlier in his career. Massaquoi is scheduled to earn the league minimum ($615,000), so his spot on the roster is likely secure. If he is not more productive in the final year of his rookie contract, however, Massaquoi is unlikely to get another deal from the Browns.
 
One local Cleveland sportswriter said that, except for one day where his throws were off and he threw multiple picks, Brandon Weeden clearly looked like the best quarterback on the team in the recent set of camping fun days. There was a clear line of distinction between him and Wallace / McCoy.

 
If McCoy is the #3 there's a 100% chance he will ask for a trade. Browns should just cut him before training camp and be done with it. Seneca is the guy they want as the #2, so McCoy will be gone.Both sides deserve a clean break (much like the whole Peyton Hillis situation).
Sounds like you're afraid he'll play for us again.
:lmao: And this is NOTHING like the Hillis situation. I don't see McCoy skipping practices and acting like a mental patient.
 
If McCoy is the #3 there's a 100% chance he will ask for a trade. Browns should just cut him before training camp and be done with it. Seneca is the guy they want as the #2, so McCoy will be gone.Both sides deserve a clean break (much like the whole Peyton Hillis situation).
Sounds like you're afraid he'll play for us again.
:lmao: And this is NOTHING like the Hillis situation. I don't see McCoy skipping practices and acting like a mental patient.
:lmao: @ acting. Pretty sure ole boy was certifiable
 
Getting rid of McCoy doesn't really make sense. The Browns have struggled to keep quarterbacks healthy. I would assume all 3 QBs will see playing time. But maybe they see it differently.

 
If McCoy is the #3 there's a 100% chance he will ask for a trade. Browns should just cut him before training camp and be done with it. Seneca is the guy they want as the #2, so McCoy will be gone.Both sides deserve a clean break (much like the whole Peyton Hillis situation).
Sounds like you're afraid he'll play for us again.
:lmao: And this is NOTHING like the Hillis situation. I don't see McCoy skipping practices and acting like a mental patient.
:lmao: @ acting. Pretty sure ole boy was certifiable
:lmao: Good point.
 
Joe Haden poised for Pro Bowl season with Browns

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

As we count down the days to training camp, Around the League will examine one player from every team set for a breakout campaign in 2012. Next up: The Cleveland Browns

Most of our breakout players for our "Making the Leap" series feature guys who haven't performed at a consistently high level yet. Browns cornerback Joe Haden is an exception.

His inclusion in our series is a matter of semantics and perception. We believe Joe Haden is already one of the ten best cornerbacks in football. No one seems to know it yet. Perception often lags behind reality. (Remember how long it took for anyone to notice Nnamdi Asomugha.)

Haden hasn't received his due as a pro for a few reasons. Cornerbacks don't get attention unless they play on a good team or pick off a lot of passes. Haden had six interceptions as a rookie, but none in his second season. He was still a great young player.

Haden officially finished twelfth in passes defensed as a rookie. ProFootballFocus says he allowed fewer than 50% of passes thrown at him to be completed. It's no mistake that the Browns were much better covering No. 1 receivers than No. 2 wideouts, according to Football Outsiders.

That's because Haden is one of the few young cornerbacks that often tracks the opposition's best wide receiver. He still gives up too many big plays to be truly elite, but the No. 7 overall pick in the 2010 draft is just hitting his stride.

Watching Haden on tape, we're most impressed by his competitiveness and versatility. He is a solid run defender. He battles on every play. He should be headed for a Pro Bowl nod.

There is a big gulf after Darrelle Revis and the rest of the cornerbacks in football. Haden has as good a chance as any young cornerback to fill that gap.
 
Chris Perez, Indians closer, rips into Browns fans

By Marc Sessler

Writer

Because the city of Cleveland hasn't endured enough slings and arrows in recent years, there's this:

Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez believes the city's sports fans have issues. Deep issues.

Case in point: The Indians hover above .500, playing decent baseball, but nobody's buying tickets. Perez sees a group of malcontents more interested in sticking pins into LeBron James dolls.

Cleveland's age-old obsession with the Browns? Unhealthy and strange, according to Perez, who hails from Florida.

"That's what I don't understand," he recently told The New York Times. "Their whole thing is, 'We want a winner.' Well, why do you support the Browns? They don't win. They've never won. They left. You guys blindly support them. I don't understand it. It's a double standard, and I don't know why."

"... They've had a lot of years of misery. They say, 'You just don't understand because you don't live here,' O.K, maybe I don't. But that doesn't mean it has to keep going."

Our suggestion for Mr. Perez: A little more Josh Cribbs, a little less John Rocker. These people have been through enough, sir.
 
that's pretty much how it works, Mr. Perez. it's cause the Browns play Football. hth.
:thumbup: Personally, I think the crappy teams fielded by the Indians for so many years were a contributing factor. I always said I thought Modell secretly owned the Indians and kept them lousy to bump up interest in the Browns.
 
Trent Richardson wants to be best thing in Cleveland

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

LeBron James didn't get it done as Cleveland's savior. Jose Mesa really didn't get it done in 2007. Even Drew Carey can't claim the honor.

Trent Richardson wants to be the man who conquers the city.

“I want to be the best thing that ever happened to Cleveland,” Richardson told Alex Marvez and Jim Miller on Sirius XM NFL radio. “I want to be that type of all-time guy when it comes down to it.”

While not fending off comments from Jim Brown this offseason, Richardson learned that he's going to be the focal part of the offense. New Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Brad Childress has made that clear.

“There ain’t no sugarcoating. I’m going to get the ball. I’m going to catch the ball. I’m going to block. I’m going to do everything I can and they’re going to put me in the best situation. I want to be that guy they don’t have to take off the field," Richardson said.

This is the part of the post when we'd normally write some tongue-in-cheek list of the best things that have happened to Cleveland. But we like Cleveland, and our unofficial Browns beat writer is still sleeping somewhere on the West Coast.

Hopefully, we can look back one day and Richardson's words will prove prophetic.
 
Colt McCoy on Browns: 'It's been a rough ride so far'

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Once upon a time, Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy was the cool new kid in Cleveland. He had high hopes, even if it wasn't his stated goal to be the greatest thing that's happened to the city.

Two humbling seasons later, McCoy has learned how tough the NFL can be.

"It's been a rough ride thus far," McCoy told the Abilene (Texas) Reporter News. "We've had our ups and downs. I've had three (offensive) coordinators going into my third year. Two head coaches in two years.

"There's been some ups and downs and things you have to fight through. Most are things out of your control. But for me, I would just like a little consistency. I love the town. I love the fans. I think they truly deserve a winning football team. That's what I want to do. I want to be there for the ride of turning that thing around. We'll see what happens."

We continue to believe that the Browns will ultimately trade McCoy. Seneca Wallace fits naturally as a backup, and the Browns could potentially get a conditional late-round pick for McCoy during training camp. The Texas product hopes that doesn't happen.

"I really like Cleveland," McCoy said. "I've always been a guy that wants to finish what he starts."

In the interview, McCoy repeatedly talked about handling the things he can control. At this point, we're not sure McCoy can do anything to change the minds of the Browns brass. Only a Brandon Weeden training-camp injury would truly give McCoy a chance to start again.
 
Posted on twitter, Colt says he doesn't think he's going to be given a fair shot at the QB position. They really need to move him before this causes any more of a distraction.

 
Colt McCoy not convinced he'll get a fair shot

By Marc Sessler

Writer

The Cleveland Browns drafted Brandon Weeden to play the role of a big-armed, franchise quarterback on a team that's gone without one for decades.

It's evident where this leaves Colt McCoy in the equation -- a trade feels imminent -- but the team has said repeatedly that last year's starter will be given a chance to compete for the job. McCoy, on Friday, didn't sound so sure.

"We'll see, I don't know," McCoy told KXAN-TV at his annual football camp in Austin, Texas. "There are a lot of things I can control and I'm controlling those things. The things beyond that I try to do my best to not worry about those and go out there and do what I do on the field, that's the most important thing. Beyond that, I can't do anything else."

McCoy is next in a long line of young quarterbacks to toil under an organization continually in search of itself. Entering his third season in the league, he's worked with two head coaches, a pair of offensive coordinators and one of the least impressive receiver groups in the NFL. Throw in the lockout for good measure, and few young quarterbacks would flourish in that environment.

From another angle, team president Mike Holmgren -- who knows a little something about the quarterback position -- has been tasked with turning this franchise around. He's two seasons in, with nine wins to show for it, meaning his search for a signal-caller presses on. Until one is found, preventing hurt feelings aren't a top priority in Cleveland.
 
'Faust said:
Colt McCoy not convinced he'll get a fair shot

By Marc Sessler

Writer

The Cleveland Browns drafted Brandon Weeden to play the role of a big-armed, franchise quarterback on a team that's gone without one for decades.

It's evident where this leaves Colt McCoy in the equation -- a trade feels imminent -- but the team has said repeatedly that last year's starter will be given a chance to compete for the job. McCoy, on Friday, didn't sound so sure.

"We'll see, I don't know," McCoy told KXAN-TV at his annual football camp in Austin, Texas. "There are a lot of things I can control and I'm controlling those things. The things beyond that I try to do my best to not worry about those and go out there and do what I do on the field, that's the most important thing. Beyond that, I can't do anything else."

McCoy is next in a long line of young quarterbacks to toil under an organization continually in search of itself. Entering his third season in the league, he's worked with two head coaches, a pair of offensive coordinators and one of the least impressive receiver groups in the NFL. Throw in the lockout for good measure, and few young quarterbacks would flourish in that environment.

From another angle, team president Mike Holmgren -- who knows a little something about the quarterback position -- has been tasked with turning this franchise around. He's two seasons in, with nine wins to show for it, meaning his search for a signal-caller presses on. Until one is found, preventing hurt feelings aren't a top priority in Cleveland.
So, what's a "fair shot"? McCoy's arm has already been evaluated. Weeden's is better. So far, it's fair. What has yet to be determined is Weeden's play on game day. If he performs as well under pressure as McCoy then the contest has been fairly won. What's unfair?BTW, that's a writer's spin on the guy. He's working, and that's his job. He never cried, "Unfair!"

 
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