defensive minded coach, question marks in current pass rush, versatile. I would not be shocked, but I would not be thrilled either. We need offense.UB=Buffalo? At this point, Mack at 1.4 is the most confusing pick to me that we could make. Don't get it.
Versatile = move inside? Maybe you can sign me up then.defensive minded coach, question marks in current pass rush, versatile. I would not be shocked, but I would not be thrilled either. We need offense.UB=Buffalo? At this point, Mack at 1.4 is the most confusing pick to me that we could make. Don't get it.
Yes. I think he can play with his hand in the dirt too. Guys like him are why I had no interest in Mingo last year.Versatile = move inside? Maybe you can sign me up then.defensive minded coach, question marks in current pass rush, versatile. I would not be shocked, but I would not be thrilled either. We need offense.UB=Buffalo? At this point, Mack at 1.4 is the most confusing pick to me that we could make. Don't get it.
A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Im higher on Hoyer than most.A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Hoyer has been nothing more than a journeyman QB thus far in his career. I think he looked fine last season, but it was a small sample size. Cousins showed some flashes as a rookie and looked pretty pedestrian as a second year player.Im higher on Hoyer than most.A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Would love if they brought in Cousins
I'm not against point one, but point two is nuts. I think relying on Hoyer would be foolish though. If you're not sold on any of the rookies, (while I disagree) fine, but still bring in someone to develop as a plan B possibility. If Hoyer regresses or proves he has issues staying healthy there's someone there to take over. If either succeeds, great, if they don't then we are in a position to draft a qb again next year anyway. Hopefully this time with a returning coaching staff.Im higher on Hoyer than most.A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Would love if they brought in Cousins
No. Everyone here remembers him beating the Browns. Unfortunately that is the only game he has managed to win.Im higher on Hoyer than most.A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Would love if they brought in Cousins
Quick decision maker. Fastest release in the league. That is tangible.Hoyer has been nothing more than a journeyman QB thus far in his career. I think he looked fine last season, but it was a small sample size. Cousins showed some flashes as a rookie and looked pretty pedestrian as a second year player.Im higher on Hoyer than most.A pretty significant piece to that puzzle is missing.What team can match what we'd have if we drafted Watkins?
Gordon, Watkins, Cameron, Tate.
I dont know too many team that can match us position for position w those weapons.
Would love if they brought in Cousins
An offense is generally as good or as bad as the QB leading it - so it's difficult to try and state the Browns can match anyone weapon for weapon and act like the offense will be a fine tuned machine with no captain in place to steer the ship.
I'm not saying Hoyer can't be successful. It's hard not to like the guy's entusiasm and grit. He does have some nice intabgibles in place. My fear would be that his tangible assets rank him as below average starting QB.
I still would not be shocked to see the Browns take a QB with the No. 4 pick - especially if they are presented with their top choice (whoever that may be).
Pretty much. Dominant run blocker right now, skill set to become a dominant pass protector, but lack of experience (Auburn was very run heavy) led to inconsistency. Drafting him allows us to slide Schwartz inside, effectively fixing two holes with one pick.from what i was reading, Robinson supposedly has a higher ceiling than Matthews but is still a bit raw.
Cleveland would be a great situation for him to season at right tackle for a few years and then move to the left side.
Did you ever once think of Joe Montana while watching Colt McCoy play? So there you go. The man knows his stuff.Gil Brandt also said Colt McCoy would make a lot of people forget about Joe Montana..
I guess I am feeling a little optimistic this morning but I'm with Soulfly here. I kinda like the schedule. I see a win over Pitt, then a loss to NO and Balt. A bye week followed by an easier stretch that I really believe we can win the next 7 after the bye. I think an optimistic outlook is 10-6. I may just be on the cool aid but those are very winable games IMO. I think 8-8 or 9-7 is a realistic number. But I think the possibility is there for better. Good defense got better and an offense that is definitely better IMO.Ugh. I don't like this schedule at all. I originally had thought it could be a 9 win season, maybe more. Now I'd be happy if they start 1-3. I'm afraid they're going to be shell-shocked by the time the easier games arrive in the middle of the season. No favors from the league this year.
@ Pit - W
NO - L
Bal - L
BYE
@ Ten - W
Pit - W
@ Jax - W
Oak - W
TB - W
@ Cin (Thur) - W
Hou - W
@ Atl - L
@ Buf - W
Ind - L
Cin - L
@ Car - L
@ Bal - W
They're gonna win all 3 road division games? Someone had a big bowl of happy crack this morning.I guess I am feeling a little optimistic this morning but I'm with Soulfly here. I kinda like the schedule. I see a win over Pitt, then a loss to NO and Balt. A bye week followed by an easier stretch that I really believe we can win the next 7 after the bye. I think an optimistic outlook is 10-6. I may just be on the cool aid but those are very winable games IMO. I think 8-8 or 9-7 is a realistic number. But I think the possibility is there for better. Good defense got better and an offense that is definitely better IMO.Ugh. I don't like this schedule at all. I originally had thought it could be a 9 win season, maybe more. Now I'd be happy if they start 1-3. I'm afraid they're going to be shell-shocked by the time the easier games arrive in the middle of the season. No favors from the league this year.
@ Pit - W
NO - L
Bal - L
BYE
@ Ten - W
Pit - W
@ Jax - W
Oak - W
TB - W
@ Cin (Thur) - W
Hou - W
@ Atl - L
@ Buf - W
Ind - L
Cin - L
@ Car - L
@ Bal - W
Yea just saw that, awful.BTW that last 6 games is bullspit. 4 on the road and the 2 at home are against playoff teams? Thanks.
Sheesh I just meant that they would split the series with Balt and Cinci...But thanks for spreading your cheer this morning.They're gonna win all 3 road division games? Someone had a big bowl of happy crack this morning.I guess I am feeling a little optimistic this morning but I'm with Soulfly here. I kinda like the schedule. I see a win over Pitt, then a loss to NO and Balt. A bye week followed by an easier stretch that I really believe we can win the next 7 after the bye. I think an optimistic outlook is 10-6. I may just be on the cool aid but those are very winable games IMO. I think 8-8 or 9-7 is a realistic number. But I think the possibility is there for better. Good defense got better and an offense that is definitely better IMO.Ugh. I don't like this schedule at all. I originally had thought it could be a 9 win season, maybe more. Now I'd be happy if they start 1-3. I'm afraid they're going to be shell-shocked by the time the easier games arrive in the middle of the season. No favors from the league this year.
@ Pit - W
NO - L
Bal - L
BYE
@ Ten - W
Pit - W
@ Jax - W
Oak - W
TB - W
@ Cin (Thur) - W
Hou - W
@ Atl - L
@ Buf - W
Ind - L
Cin - L
@ Car - L
@ Bal - W
pssstWatkins and Gordon really gonna be huge for us this year
meh. looks pretty winnable to me.BTW that last 6 games is bullspit. 4 on the road and the 2 at home are against playoff teams? Thanks.
To be the best gotta beat the best.opening at pitt then the saints thenathome vs baltimore is rough
if this team goes 0-3 there (not saying they will but certainly possible) people are gonna be jumping off of buildings in this thread
if they are 0-2 that Baltimore game is gonna be intense
but Pitt ended the eyar strong last year, it is at home to open the season. There's no way to think that is anything other than toughTo be the best gotta beat the best.opening at pitt then the saints thenathome vs baltimore is rough
if this team goes 0-3 there (not saying they will but certainly possible) people are gonna be jumping off of buildings in this thread
if they are 0-2 that Baltimore game is gonna be intense
Pittsburgh is not what it once was, New Orleans is not the same away from home, and Baltimore often struggles here + they aren't as strong as they have been either.
If we lose to all of them that's on us, not them.
I don't look beyond September on the schedule except for obvious powers and obvious doormats. The difference between the rest in the middle isn't all that much. If our coaching is improved and we find the QB we will be a contender. If the coaching blows and we continue to cycle through QB's we will suck.
I think starting off against bottom dwellers would be awful. Get a sense of accomplishment beating nobody's then when actually playing someone worth a damn we get curb stomped.but Pitt ended the eyar strong last year, it is at home to open the season. There's no way to think that is anything other than toughTo be the best gotta beat the best.opening at pitt then the saints thenathome vs baltimore is rough
if this team goes 0-3 there (not saying they will but certainly possible) people are gonna be jumping off of buildings in this thread
if they are 0-2 that Baltimore game is gonna be intense
Pittsburgh is not what it once was, New Orleans is not the same away from home, and Baltimore often struggles here + they aren't as strong as they have been either.
If we lose to all of them that's on us, not them.
I don't look beyond September on the schedule except for obvious powers and obvious doormats. The difference between the rest in the middle isn't all that much. If our coaching is improved and we find the QB we will be a contender. If the coaching blows and we continue to cycle through QB's we will suck.
the saints are always tough, sure in NO wold be tougher, but that has been a damn good team
and the ravens, hell who knows what they'lll be. No division game is easy though.
could they go 2-1 or 3-1, sure, but you'd feel better if the start was Oak, Jax, TB. All indications this is a tough start for a brand new staff on which the expectations are extremely high (too high imo)
he is in 2 weeks.pssstWatkins and Gordon really gonna be huge for us this year
Watkins is not a brown
Did you ever once think of Joe Montana while watching Colt McCoy play? So there you go. The man knows his stuff.Gil Brandt also said Colt McCoy would make a lot of people forget about Joe Montana..
unless he's not.he is in 2 weeks.pssstWatkins and Gordon really gonna be huge for us this year
Watkins is not a brown
i don;t think it should matterI think starting off against bottom dwellers would be awful. Get a sense of accomplishment beating nobody's then when actually playing someone worth a damn we get curb stomped.but Pitt ended the eyar strong last year, it is at home to open the season. There's no way to think that is anything other than toughTo be the best gotta beat the best.opening at pitt then the saints thenathome vs baltimore is rough
if this team goes 0-3 there (not saying they will but certainly possible) people are gonna be jumping off of buildings in this thread
if they are 0-2 that Baltimore game is gonna be intense
Pittsburgh is not what it once was, New Orleans is not the same away from home, and Baltimore often struggles here + they aren't as strong as they have been either.
If we lose to all of them that's on us, not them.
I don't look beyond September on the schedule except for obvious powers and obvious doormats. The difference between the rest in the middle isn't all that much. If our coaching is improved and we find the QB we will be a contender. If the coaching blows and we continue to cycle through QB's we will suck.
the saints are always tough, sure in NO wold be tougher, but that has been a damn good team
and the ravens, hell who knows what they'lll be. No division game is easy though.
could they go 2-1 or 3-1, sure, but you'd feel better if the start was Oak, Jax, TB. All indications this is a tough start for a brand new staff on which the expectations are extremely high (too high imo)
I have maintained for a while that we are good coaching and a QB away from playoff contention. I don't think those are unrealistic expectations. If we are going to make the playoffs we either have to beat good teams or do what the Bengals routinely do - beat who they are supposed to beat, lose who they are supposed to lose to, then get bounced round 1. Because their QB blows. That doesn't sound like fun.i don;t think it should matterI think starting off against bottom dwellers would be awful. Get a sense of accomplishment beating nobody's then when actually playing someone worth a damn we get curb stomped.but Pitt ended the eyar strong last year, it is at home to open the season. There's no way to think that is anything other than toughTo be the best gotta beat the best.opening at pitt then the saints thenathome vs baltimore is rough
if this team goes 0-3 there (not saying they will but certainly possible) people are gonna be jumping off of buildings in this thread
if they are 0-2 that Baltimore game is gonna be intense
Pittsburgh is not what it once was, New Orleans is not the same away from home, and Baltimore often struggles here + they aren't as strong as they have been either.
If we lose to all of them that's on us, not them.
I don't look beyond September on the schedule except for obvious powers and obvious doormats. The difference between the rest in the middle isn't all that much. If our coaching is improved and we find the QB we will be a contender. If the coaching blows and we continue to cycle through QB's we will suck.
the saints are always tough, sure in NO wold be tougher, but that has been a damn good team
and the ravens, hell who knows what they'lll be. No division game is easy though.
could they go 2-1 or 3-1, sure, but you'd feel better if the start was Oak, Jax, TB. All indications this is a tough start for a brand new staff on which the expectations are extremely high (too high imo)
this team should be judged not on its start and not on unrealistic expectations but on thei growth and potential
this team at 6-10 could be MILES better than last year's at 4-12. i think last year's 4-12 was heading in the right direction
but you have to wonder given the pumped up expectations of fans AND the owner if that is truly how they will be judged
I would take that this year.I have maintained for a while that we are good coaching and a QB away from playoff contention. I don't think those are unrealistic expectations. If we are going to make the playoffs we either have to beat good teams or do what the Bengals routinely do - beat who they are supposed to beat, lose who they are supposed to lose to, then get bounced round 1. Because their QB blows. That doesn't sound like fun.
In all honesty, who really pays attention to anything from Bleacher Reportespn predicts 6-10 at this point
bleacher report predicts 2-14 - that seems way the hell out there