Cleveland Browns (11 Viewers)

[MAC_32]

Siiiiigh

exactly.

you spent 20 posts trying to get me to say why he will fail.

Now YOU tell me how you are "sure" our franchise QB will be there at 4

apples and oranges

still wanna know how you are sure he will be there.

I am personally SURE he will be there because he isnt getting picked high because he isnt a franchise QB...............

You're arguing for the sake of arguing. I answered your question. You must not understand risk analysis if you don't get my answer. You won't answer mine though. I asked the same question to a guy that doesn't like Bridgewater that I have asked to everyone else that doesn't like Bridgewater that no one can answer.

 

[ghostguy123]

I get the risk analysis...............but if you are "sure" that a QB is going to be your franchise QB, as you said, have some conviction, and go get him.....right?

 

[ghostguy123]

If I thought one of these QBs was "the man", and I thought he had a very good chance to be there at 4, I would be perfectly fine with trading several picks to go up and get that guy

 

[MAC_32]

I get the risk analysis...............but if you are "sure" that a QB is going to be your franchise QB, as you said, have some conviction, and go get him.....right?

headdesk headdesk headdeskBECAUSE I PROBABLY DO NOT NEED TO

 

[MAC_32]

You're arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[ghostguy123]

I get the risk analysis...............but if you are "sure" that a QB is going to be your franchise QB, as you said, have some conviction, and go get him.....right?

headdesk headdesk headdeskBECAUSE I PROBABLY DO NOT NEED TO

"probably"

you are willing to let your franchise QB slip away and not use some 2nd round pick because of "probably"?

This isnt arguing for the sake of arguing. If they lost "their man" cause of that, they should all be fired..........then again if they tade up for a QB this year they should be fired anyway.

 

[ghostguy123]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

 

[MAC_32]

I get the risk analysis...............but if you are "sure" that a QB is going to be your franchise QB, as you said, have some conviction, and go get him.....right?

headdesk headdesk headdeskBECAUSE I PROBABLY DO NOT NEED TO

"probably"

you are willing to let your franchise QB slip away and not use some 2nd round pick because of "probably"?

This isnt arguing for the sake of arguing. If they lost "their man" cause of that, they should all be fired..........then again if they tade up for a QB this year they should be fired anyway.

in the case of teddy Bridgewater you are a bad poker player if you trade picks to move up and get him at four.If you get out smarted you still have a ton of picks to figure out plan b.

 

[MAC_32]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

This is a terrible post.

 

[ghostguy123]

in the case of teddy Bridgewater you are a bad poker player if you trade picks to move up and get him at four.If you get out smarted you still have a ton of picks to figure out plan b.

I agree with you Teddy will be there at 4. I think he will be there for a handful of picks (or more) after that actually.

But....................if I ever feel "the man at QB" is there, even if I am 99% sure he will be there at my pick, I will trade up to get hm and never look back.

 

[ghostguy123]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

This is a terrible post.

if this is such a terrible post, please post who you believe the top 10 picks will be.

We will then see how terrible YOUR post is in a couple weeks.

 

[MAC_32]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

This is a terrible post.

if this is such a terrible post, please post who you believe the top 10 picks will be.

We will then see how terrible YOUR post is in a couple weeks.

now you're just being belligerent.

 

[MAC_32]

in the case of teddy Bridgewater you are a bad poker player if you trade picks to move up and get him at four.

If you get out smarted you still have a ton of picks to figure out plan b.

I agree with you Teddy will be there at 4. I think he will be there for a handful of picks (or more) after that actually.

But....................if I ever feel "the man at QB" is there, even if I am 99% sure he will be there at my pick, I will trade up to get hm and never look back.

I think that's terrible management.

 

[ghostguy123]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

This is a terrible post.

if this is such a terrible post, please post who you believe the top 10 picks will be.

We will then see how terrible YOUR post is in a couple weeks.

now you're just being belligerent.

you have been there for two pages.

You seem very sure about a lot of things that are impossible to be sure about..................those usually are called delusions.

 

[ghostguy123]

in the case of teddy Bridgewater you are a bad poker player if you trade picks to move up and get him at four.

If you get out smarted you still have a ton of picks to figure out plan b.

I agree with you Teddy will be there at 4. I think he will be there for a handful of picks (or more) after that actually.

But....................if I ever feel "the man at QB" is there, even if I am 99% sure he will be there at my pick, I will trade up to get hm and never look back.

I think that's terrible management.

thats called conviction...........................

 

[ghostguy123]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

 

[MAC_32]

And frankly, you have NO IDEA they can "probably" get him or not.

Why, some mock drafts?? please

This is a terrible post.

if this is such a terrible post, please post who you believe the top 10 picks will be.

We will then see how terrible YOUR post is in a couple weeks.

now you're just being belligerent.

you have been there for two pages.

You seem very sure about a lot of things that are impossible to be sure about..................those usually are called delusions.

got it, against the grain opinions are delusional, only eat what the media feeds you, tganks.

 

[ghostguy123]

still waiting for something here though.

I mean, I am sure Teddy will be there at 4 becuase he isnt good and teams see it.

Why are YOU so sure Teddy will be there at pick 4.

Serious question.

 

[MAC_32]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

trading an entire draft away to pivk Russell Wilson number one would have been stupid. Look at what they would have given up.

 

[MAC_32]

still waiting for something here though.

I mean, I am sure Teddy will be there at 4 becuase he isnt good and teams see it.

Why are YOU so sure Teddy will be there at pick 4.

Serious question.

hello 480 bridge

 

[ghostguy123]

got it, against the grain opinions are delusional, only eat what the media feeds you, tganks.

?? This is the exact thing you are apparently doing, only you are saying I am doing it.

I am in the minority about these QBs BIGTIME everywhere I post. I also dont really pay attention to the media, so..........................

And thanks for putting words in my mouth for the 50th time now, but "against the grain opinions" are fine....................stating Teddy for sure will be there at pick 4 is a delusion. I think he will cause he sucks. You seem to KNOW he will for some unearthly reason.

 

[ghostguy123]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

trading an entire draft away to pivk Russell Wilson number one would have been stupid. Look at what they would have given up.

so now one pick = entire draft..............my mouth is full of the words you keep putting in it

 

[ghostguy123]

still waiting for something here though.

I mean, I am sure Teddy will be there at 4 becuase he isnt good and teams see it.

Why are YOU so sure Teddy will be there at pick 4.

Serious question.

hello 480 bridge

good answer

 

[MAC_32]

stating Teddy for sure will be there at pick 4 is a delusion.

literacy, down.

 

[ghostguy123]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

trading an entire draft away to pivk Russell Wilson number one would have been stupid. Look at what they would have given up.

so now one pick = entire draft..............my mouth is full of the words you keep putting in it

and pretty sure they didnt trade up for Wilson because they were not "convinced" he was "the man"............nether were 31 other teams.

 

[MAC_32]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

trading an entire draft away to pivk Russell Wilson number one would have been stupid. Look at what they would have given up.

so now one pick = entire draft..............my mouth is full of the words you keep putting in it

look at that point fly right over your head

 

[ghostguy123]

stating Teddy for sure will be there at pick 4 is a delusion.

literacy, down.

if you are 100% sure he wil be there = delusion

I am 99.99999999999% sure = not a delusion

 

[ghostguy123]

and it is NEVER bad management when you draft a franchise QB and trade away ONE pick to get it done. Ever.

trading an entire draft away to pivk Russell Wilson number one would have been stupid. Look at what they would have given up.

so now one pick = entire draft..............my mouth is full of the words you keep putting in it

look at that point fly right over your head

problem is, you are making points based on statements I didnt make.

 

[MAC_32]

stating Teddy for sure will be there at pick 4 is a delusion.

literacy, down.

if you are 100% sure he wil be there = delusion

I am 99.99999999999% sure = not a delusion

still down.

 

[ghostguy123]

hey.........hey everyone.....................Bridgewater sucks.

 

[ghostguy123]

So, since we have established that it is a 100% fact we wont take a QB at pick 4.............who you want us to take Mac?

 

[MAC_32]

So, since we have established that it is a 100% fact we wont take a QB at pick 4.............who you want us to take Mac?

right now? A mute button.

 

[ghostguy123]

We arent taking a QB man...............................we're not.....................not at 4

Who knows what we do after that. Impossible to know since we have no idea how the draft will fall. Will Farmer snort some coke at 9pm and trade up then go bang the secretary in the broom closet?? Who knows.

 

[ghostguy123]

If we take a QB at 4, I owe a lot of beers. If we trade up the bets are doubled.

99.999999999% sure I will be paid handsomely in brew................not a delusion.

 

[amnesiac]

Pluto did an article the other day where he stated the Browns can't take a tackle at #4 because there would be to much money tied up on the O Line.

by that logic, and looking at the numbers, they can't take a LB or D Lineman either.

WR? they could do it. Watkins would be making about 5X as much as Gordon though. awkward.

i guess my point is that when drafting, you should go best player available and not worry so much about everything else.

oh, and if they did take a QB at 4, it would be a pretty reasonable contract assuming they end up being an average NFL QB.

 

[ghostguy123]

The contract would not hold them up from taking a tackle if they wanted to, at all. By the time his rookie contract is up Mack and maybe even Thomas might not even be here anymore.

And the rookie contract itself wouldnt really matter.

That, and who cares how much money you have tied up in a position. If the player you want will help your team more than anyone else, you pick him.

 

[amnesiac]

The contract would not hold them up from taking a tackle if they wanted to, at all. By the time his rookie contract is up Mack and maybe even Thomas might not even be here anymore.

And the rookie contract itself wouldnt really matter.

That, and who cares how much money you have tied up in a position. If the player you want will help your team more than anyone else, you pick him.

that's what i was trying to say. seemed like really odd logic coming from Pluto, wondering if this is more misinformation coming from the Browns.

 

[daveR]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

 

[B-Deep]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

 

[Soulfly3]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

nor jacksonvilles....? lol

come on, if two QB needy teams pass, there's a damn good reason.

these QBs are not first round talents... or at least not til end of rnd 1

 

[MAC_32]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

nor jacksonvilles....? lol

come on, if two QB needy teams pass, there's a damn good reason.

these QBs are not first round talents... or at least not til end of rnd 1

Because groupthink always yields the right answer.

 

[B-Deep]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

nor jacksonvilles....? lol

come on, if two QB needy teams pass, there's a damn good reason.

these QBs are not first round talents... or at least not til end of rnd 1

I am not saying they are

i am saying if the browns THINK one is and then pass on him because houston and jacksonville do, THAT is about the most ridiculous think i can think of.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

plus, Houston could see Clowney as a Hall of Fame talent.

 

[B-Deep]

i do not pretend to know what the browns should do, but i firmly believe they are trying to not look like they are going QB becuase they are going QB

i could be way wrong though, it is just a hunch

 

[Soulfly3]

i do not pretend to know what the browns should do, but i firmly believe they are trying to not look like they are going QB becuase they are going QB

i could be way wrong though, it is just a hunch

Bringing in every QB for a private workout isnt really 'hiding' anything.

 

[Faust]

Cleveland Browns to take look at Vince Young

 

[B-Deep]

i do not pretend to know what the browns should do, but i firmly believe they are trying to not look like they are going QB becuase they are going QB

i could be way wrong though, it is just a hunch

Bringing in every QB for a private workout isnt really 'hiding' anything.

do you think the actions of the browns this off season say they are likely to draft a QB?

 

[amnesiac]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

hypothetically, if there's a guy whose strengths are exactly what they're looking for, you could make a strong case for them drafting a QB at 4. i personally wouldn't, but i could understand it if they think they can live with a certain QBs warts because the rest of their skills align with what they want.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

It seems there is no consensus franchise QB, like Luck, in this draft. Clearly, if there were, Houston would be all over him.

So... what makes QB-X, whomever you like, worthy of the #4 pick when he's not worthy of #1?

houston's evaluations may not match cleveland's

nor jacksonvilles....? lol

come on, if two QB needy teams pass, there's a damn good reason.

these QBs are not first round talents... or at least not til end of rnd 1

Like Aaron Rodgers?

 

[amnesiac]

i do not pretend to know what the browns should do, but i firmly believe they are trying to not look like they are going QB becuase they are going QB

i could be way wrong though, it is just a hunch

Bringing in every QB for a private workout isnt really 'hiding' anything.

do you think the actions of the browns this off season say they are likely to draft a QB?

i would say they are very likely to draft a QB. i just have no idea what round.