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We should start looking for the real culprits again!
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We should start looking for the real culprits again!
Yeah. Sounds logical. Jussie is just such a great dude he decided to forfeit his bond just to be nice to chicago.As far-fetched as it may seem, perhaps we should at least consider the slight possibility that the Chicago Police Department and conservative media- both of which are usually beyond reproach- unfairly maligned a gay black man.
What an awful situation.Link
In a stunning reversal, Cook County prosecutors on Tuesday dropped all charges against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett on disorderly conduct charges for allegedly staging a phony attack and claiming he was the victim of a hate crime.
“We believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case,” a prosecutor said in announcing the dismissal of all 16 counts.
noAs far-fetched as it may seem, perhaps we should at least consider the slight possibility that the Chicago Police Department and conservative media- both of which are usually beyond reproach- unfairly maligned a gay black man.
It’s just being handed to the FBI. They have been involved in the case and with the CPD since the beginning. Looks like Foxx wanted out for political reasons.TOTAL EXONERATION!
(Too soon?)
“Omg this would be a huge victory,” the relative replied.
If I had connected friends I would do anything I could to get out of jail time too. Pays to know people.
Definitely. Foxx is really the one that deserves criticism. I don’t know what the FBI will decide, but it’s clear she never stopped interfering with the CPD investigation on behalf of the Smollett family.If I had connected friends I would do anything I could to get out of jail time too. Pays to know people.
:(OJ is smiling down in Florida.
I'll be interested to see how this all happened without Jussie Smolett's foreknowledge. Smolett has never moved off of his original story, correct?Looks like CPD is going to request the Feds look into Kim Foxx and how she interferred with the case.
... writing this, do you essentially mean that the Smolett affair was what everything though it was a week ago? Just that Foxx, for some reason, was unable to carry out her duties?It’s just being handed to the FBI. They have been involved in the case and with the CPD since the beginning. Looks like Foxx wanted out for political reasons.
LOL. Nailed itAs far-fetched as it may seem, perhaps we should at least consider the slight possibility that the Chicago Police Department and conservative media- both of which are usually beyond reproach- unfairly maligned a gay black man.
He paid 10% of the amount, not the full amount. Which probably means a bondsman. He was going to have to forfeit that regardless.Yeah. Sounds logical. Jussie is just such a great dude he decided to forfeit his bond just to be nice to chicago.
Another example of shady government in the US.Bond money not being returned, is this unusual?
Yes.I'll be interested to see how this all happened without Jussie Smolett's foreknowledge. Smolett has never moved off of his original story, correct?
Is the angle now that Kim Foxx concocted everything and hired the two trainers to pull off the attack unbeknownst to Smolett? Or were all parties involved in the planning, etc. -- Foxx, Smolett, the trainers, etc.? Or something else altogether?
... does this mean ... "people who know people" reached out to Foxx on Smolett's behalf to get her to purposefully and willfully sully the case somehow so that it couldn't be prosecuted locally? Having a helluva time following the bouncing ball here.If I had connected friends I would do anything I could to get out of jail time too. Pays to know people.
Still think -- at this moment with the facts as I understand them -- that some damn thing happened. The question is "What happened -- and who set it up?"Yes.
CNN Breaking News @cnnbrk 13m13 minutes ago
Jussie Smollett says after all charges against him are dropped in Chicago,
"I have been truthful and consistent on every level since day one."
Follow live updates: https://cnn.it/2FvmB2a
So you are saying that because Jussie forfeited it to the city the bondsman gets screwed?He paid 10% of the amount, not the full amount. Which probably means a bondsman. He was going to have to forfeit that regardless.
No, I’m saying he forefeited the 10% to whomever (bondsman or city) he paid it to. Makes sense the city of Chicago would act as its own bondsman. Seems like the kind of thing they’d do.So you are saying that because Jussie forfeited it to the city the bondsman gets screwed?
Don't think that's how it works. Not even in chicago.
Nope. He is totally innocent...just ask all of those very consistent posters on here.So it appears the Chicago PD determined that they had insufficient evidence to prosecute Mr. Smollet with conspiracy or coordination?
I have to say, that doesn’t sound like much of a vindication.
After some quick reading there are no bail bondsmen in chicago and he would not forfeit the 10k anyway. He would get it back(minus some fees).No, I’m saying he forefeited the 10% to whomever (bondsman or city) he paid it to. Makes sense the city of Chicago would act as its own bondsman. Seems like the kind of thing they’d do.
Ah, hadn’t seen that. Well, good for them. Hopefully it throws the department a pizza party.After some quick reading there are no bail bondsmen in chicago and he would not forfeit the 10k anyway. He would get it back(minus some fees).
So he voluntarily, as stated, by DA and Jussie's attorney surrendered the 10k.
WITCH HUNT!So it appears the Chicago PD determined that they had insufficient evidence to prosecute Mr. Smolett with conspiracy or coordination?
I have to say, that doesn’t sound like much of a vindication.
Only their ability to beat the system.:(
You are comparing Smollett to OJ?
Rumors are that someone in his circle has connections to Michelle Obama and that she made a phone call.Still think -- at this moment with the facts as I understand them -- that some damn thing happened. The question is "What happened -- and who set it up?"
We're told the State's Attorney, Kim Foxx, told Chicago police she was dropping the case because Jussie would have only gotten community service if convicted and she said he has already performed community service so there is no point in prosecuting him. We could not find any record of Smollett doing community service.
I have a hard time believing Michelle Obama is the lynchpin here.Rumors are that someone in his circle has connections to Michelle Obama and that she made a phone call.
Reports are that the DA is saying that he would have only received community service and that he has already served his community service. What and when seems to be confusing since it doesn't appear to have happened after the charges were brought.
http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/03/26/jussie-smollettt-plea-bargain-charges-dropped-dismissed/
Translation: His connections and celebrity paid off and the prosecutors made up a BS excuse to drop the charges.
The only vindication talk I’m aware of is from Jussie and his team.Per TMZ
”We're told the State's Attorney, Kim Foxx, told Chicago police she was dropping the case because Jussie would have only gotten community service if convicted and she said he has already performed community service so there is no point in prosecuting him. We could not find any record of Smollett doing community service.
We're told Chicago police are "furious" and feel something untoward is going on with Kim Foxx.”
That kind of throws cold water on the vindication talk
He hasn't beat it yet, the FBI is still investigating mail fraud charges against Smollett.Only their ability to beat the system.
Maybe he can give some guidance on finding the guys that did this?OJ is smiling down in Florida.
I have a hard time believing Michelle Obama is the lynchpin here.
Synopsis from another board:Just days after Jussie Smollett told Chicago police he had fought off a pair of attackers who targeted him in an apparent hate crime, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx tried to persuade Police Supt. Eddie Johnson to turn the investigation over to the FBI.
Foxx’s call to Johnson came after an influential supporter of the “Empire” actor reached out to Foxx personally: Tina Tchen, a Chicago attorney and former chief of staff for former First Lady Michelle Obama, according to emails and text messages provided by Foxx to the Chicago Sun-Times in response to a public records request
In short: Smolett, IMHO, absolutely did what he was accused of. However, he was able to avail himself of essentially the "frat guy with connections" defense. Whether or not that's fair game is left as an exercise for the reader.Smolett's family is influential in politics. One of their friends is Tina Tchen, who was the chief of staff to Ms Obama.
Ms Tchen asked Kim Foxx to ask the FBI to take over the case because the family had concerns with how the police department was handling it. When news of this got out, Mr Graham wrote the Justice Department that the police were doing a fine job and the FBI was not needed.