DI Jukebox Draft (66-15)- Listen up (2 Viewers)

[Eephus]

The MOADI album thread from 2007 went 128 pages. As of page 52, they (or the younger us) were in round 14 without the innovation of double picks. It may have been just a page 52 thing but there wasn't a whole lot of chatter about the picks.

 

[Aerial Assault]

The MOADI album thread from 2007 went 128 pages. As of page 52, they (or the younger us) were in round 14 without the innovation of double picks. It may have been just a page 52 thing but there wasn't a whole lot of chatter about the picks.

sounds boring

 

[PIK95]

By the way, Bono wears tinted glasses because he has glaucoma.

Yeah, me too. And the weeeeeed!

 

[KarmaPolice]

Wait just a Gol Darned minute........

I thought The Cult was like one of those dark, moody bands about suicide. "Love Removal Machine" is playing right now. Were they - dare I say it - HAIR? Because that's what it sounds like to me. Who am I confusing them with? The Church?

You mixing them up with The Cure maybe?

 

[Eephus]

The MOADI album thread from 2007 went 128 pages. As of page 52, they (or the younger us) were in round 14 without the innovation of double picks. It may have been just a page 52 thing but there wasn't a whole lot of chatter about the picks.

sounds boring

This one was my idea so caveat emptor but I think some things have worked in favor of this draft.

songs > albums in terms of familiarity

Improvements in technology. There was no way to have a Spotify playlist back then. Youtube was in its infancy.

Themes

The albums draft was fun though and it's always great to nerd out with people with similar interests. I pour out a virtual Colt 45 in honor of album drafters who are no longer with us virtually or in real life.

ETA: similar interests but varying tastes. A draft where everybody liked the same thing would be boring.

 

[Eephus]

Thursday-Monday rules

One round (two picks) after sunrise

One round (two picks) after 4PM EST

Make-ups can be made whenever.

 

[sn0mm1s]

I'm admittedly fiending to pick more already, but I'm cool with it if people want to keep going at the current leisurely pace.

Just out of curiosity are you and the others wanting 4 a day, listening to other picks and making commentary or you just want to make your own picks?

I like making picks and the commentary. I think FFA style picking is more conducive to conversation than limiting the picks to 1 round a day.

 

[PIK95]

Fight like high school nerds like to fight. No fisticuffs witnessed. I did hear about the geek guy who was organizing the line, put his hands on a girl in the pit, when she wouldn't move from his spot. That seemed to be a big controversy and she actually got kicked out.

que?

oh... you don't want to even imagine what goes on at the front of U2 concerts.

the wife is a huge fan- we went to 3 shows one year (when they had "the heart" stage) and waited all day to get in the heart. the other people on that line were ####### awful. so that whole story above makes complete sense to me. one of the shows, Kings of Leon opened for them back when they were still an unknown indie band. needless to say, these U2 fan-nazis bogarting the front of the stage couldn't have been any more rude... turned backs the whole time, completely ignoring the band. you waited 8 hours on a sidewalk, but now you can't be bothered to pay attention for 45 minutes?

This. They were giving us crap for being there for AF throughout the whole pit. I couldn't believe it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I haven't had a chance to listen to most of the songs chosen that I didn't know until today.

I REALLY liked that Thorns record. Is all of their stuff like that? Kinda Jayhawks-y, jangly-poppish?

I'm still scared of that damned Morphine song I heard with Church Lady. I need to listen to that one again

I haven't heard that BOC "Psycho" song in forever. Gracias to whoever picked that.

I knew Usher's "Yeah"; I just didn't know that I knew it by title alone. He's a pretty big cultural presence, no? If my Luddite-### has heard of him, he must be. I know everything I've seen him do made me think he is really talented.

The Thorns full albumn is very similiar to that and its very good. In fact they cover a Jayhawks song "blue" on it. That's their only albumn to date.

 

[Eephus]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

 

[El Floppo]

Not just SF.

 

[AcerFC]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

best part of punk shows is that everyone is the headliner. I always head in early to see the openers. Sometimes it's awesome and I get to see the black keys or social distorion. Other times not so great seeing my morning jacket

 

[AcerFC]

Not just SF.

where do you eat when you see a show. Coming in tomorrow to see book of mormon. Want to eat something good before

 

[Limp Ditka]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I've pontificated about this on this forum many of times, but I saw Pearl Jam open up for two well known bands probably about 5-6 weeks before 10 was released. Outside of a few 'These are the MLB guys' whispers from others in the crowd, we had no idea who they were. To say that they completely stole the night would be an understatement. The energy that band brought that night still echoes in me.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Lucero another band I keep trying and not succeeding with.

I usually can't make it through an entire album of their's, but there are 4-5 tracks that just grab me. That pick was one of them

 

[simey]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I had a good experience in regard to this kind of thing this past summer. I went to an outdoor concert, and the opening band got just a big a reception from the audience as the headliner, which as you are pointing out generally doesn't happen. It was to great see, and much deserved. The opening act was energetic and fantastic. The two bands were different styles too.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Speaking of opening bands and The Cult. Saw those poor guys open up for Metallica back in '89. Those poor ####ers didn't stand a chance.

 

[Eephus]

Speaking of opening bands and The Cult. Saw those poor guys open up for Metallica back in '89. Those poor ####ers didn't stand a chance.

I saw GN'R open for The Cult in 1987 after Appetite was released but before it broke big. They put on a great show.

 

[Eephus]

Lucero another band I keep trying and not succeeding with.

I usually can't make it through an entire album of their's, but there are 4-5 tracks that just grab me. That pick was one of them

The voice is kind of an acquired taste

 

[Fiddles]

Speaking of opening bands and The Cult. Saw those poor guys open up for Metallica back in '89. Those poor ####ers didn't stand a chance.

Ya I really liked the cult at the time but what a terrible combo. Queensryche fared way better on the other leg of the Justice tour.

 

[DocHolliday]

11.xx Goo Goo Dolls, "Slide" (1998)

One of the few bands ever hailing from Buffalo makes my list with a simultaneously beautiful and strongly charged take on a young Catholic girl's decision about an unwed pregnancy. The song is excellently produced, as the bass line is clearly discernible despite what I believe are four guitar parts and an organ, and the vocals are split well among the two principals. GGD will always be remembered for their two monster hits, but this is a faaaaaar better song with just as much resonance.

GGD was a great live band too. They were a fun band that enjoyed their success after struggling for many years. Slide is a cool song. Their ballads may have been sellouts but it is hard to argue when a sellout sounds awesome.

Why are their ballads considered sellouts?

bc punk rockers dont make money

That is the correct answer.

I'm not ripping on the Goo Goo Dolls. Probably a poor choice of words because I don't know what they were thinking when they started writing the radio hits. Maybe they did it for the money. Maybe those were the songs or direction that they grew towards.

Now Aerosmith is an example of selling out. Joe hated the ballads that Steven wrote but couldn't argue with the success. Sorry to get off track. I have a few pages to read to get caught up.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Saw Bob Seger open for Kiss in '76 - he got a good reception. Artful Dodger was first and sucked balls.

 

[Fiddles]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I've pontificated about this on this forum many of times, but I saw Pearl Jam open up for two well known bands probably about 5-6 weeks before 10 was released. Outside of a few 'These are the MLB guys' whispers from others in the crowd, we had no idea who they were. To say that they completely stole the night would be an understatement. The energy that band brought that night still echoes in me.

That was a great show. I can't imagine hearing pearl jam for the first time at that show. I feel like I already knew ten at that show. I think I might have gotten it before it was released or something? I just looked it up ten release 8.27.91 and the pittsburgh show was 10.25.91.

 

[PIK95]

I liked how today worked.

We still have a few who havent drafted yet. If we keep adding picks, they fall farther behind. Yes, it's their fault, but, would suck for them.

How many days would it take to finish the draft doing just two a day.

Today was Round 11, I believe, and I think there are 25 rounds (50 picks total), so another 14 days. Seems reasonable to me and plenty of time for fun commentary.

This. Two a day is perfect. Even on weekend days imo.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I've pontificated about this on this forum many of times, but I saw Pearl Jam open up for two well known bands probably about 5-6 weeks before 10 was released. Outside of a few 'These are the MLB guys' whispers from others in the crowd, we had no idea who they were. To say that they completely stole the night would be an understatement. The energy that band brought that night still echoes in me.

That was a great show. I can't imagine hearing pearl jam for the first time at that show. I feel like I already knew ten at that show. I think I might have gotten it before it was released or something? I just looked it up ten release 8.27.91 and the pittsburgh show was 10.25.91.

I was at the 7.29.91 show in Chicago, so about 5 weeks before. Still remember walking into the local record store every Tuesday asking if they had the new Pearl Jam album and getting blank stares from whatever stoned person was behind the counter.

http://www.twofeetthick.com/concert-chronology/pj1991/

That link mentions Raygun, Ned's and UO, but that either the night before or after.

 

[PIK95]

The MOADI album thread from 2007 went 128 pages. As of page 52, they (or the younger us) were in round 14 without the innovation of double picks. It may have been just a page 52 thing but there wasn't a whole lot of chatter about the picks.

sounds boring

This one was my idea so caveat emptor but I think some things have worked in favor of this draft.

songs > albums in terms of familiarity

Improvements in technology. There was no way to have a Spotify playlist back then. Youtube was in its infancy.

Themes

The albums draft was fun though and it's always great to nerd out with people with similar interests. I pour out a virtual Colt 45 in honor of album drafters who are no longer with us virtually or in real life.

ETA: similar interests but varying tastes. A draft where everybody liked the same thing would be boring.

I would love a "where are they now" update on the guys from that draft. I can't keep track of alias if that the answer.

 

[AcerFC]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I've pontificated about this on this forum many of times, but I saw Pearl Jam open up for two well known bands probably about 5-6 weeks before 10 was released. Outside of a few 'These are the MLB guys' whispers from others in the crowd, we had no idea who they were. To say that they completely stole the night would be an understatement. The energy that band brought that night still echoes in me.

That was a great show. I can't imagine hearing pearl jam for the first time at that show. I feel like I already knew ten at that show. I think I might have gotten it before it was released or something? I just looked it up ten release 8.27.91 and the pittsburgh show was 10.25.91.

I was at the 7.29.91 show in Chicago, so about 5 weeks before. Still remember walking into the local record store every Tuesday asking if they had the new Pearl Jam album and getting blank stares from whatever stoned person was behind the counter.

http://www.twofeetthick.com/concert-chronology/pj1991/

That link mentions Raygun, Ned's and UO, but that either the night before or after.

I cant imagine seeing pearl jam in wetlands. Crazy

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

So I guess I owe two

A lot of my picks have come off of bands I got into because of footballguys. Zilla. Scorchy (my spirit animal), other guys who were a lot more active than me at the Hoof. One of my best college friends was way into this band, but I didn't get into them until I heard them on a mix from the awesome Beckster*.

The Jesus and Mary Chain -- Head On -- 1989

Moving on. I think Adam Ant is getting a little lonely in the "double entendre that hardly qualifies as single entendre" section. Let's give him some company.

The Who -- Squeezebox -- 1975

 

[AcerFC]

Ah. Jesus and mary chain,another 120 minutes favorite

 

[simey]

The Who -- Squeezebox -- 1975

This sounds dumb, but in college a friend of mine with huge boobs used to push her boobs together like an accordion during the song while dancing. She was playing her squeeze box.

Mama's got a squeeze box she wears on her chest...

I just saw her this past weekend at a Super Bowl party. She still has huge bOObs.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

This has been a gripe of mine for years and one reason I don't see a lot of shows anymore. This even happens to me for the headliner. Hell, we've seen White Stripes and Broken Bells in smaller venues and both crowds were talking, dicking around on their cells, etc. Just felt to me like that was just the place to hang out on a weekend night, and 1/2 the people weren't there for the bands. Really damn annoying.

 

[HellToupee]

I'm moving Richard Hell to 1976

The Brothers Johnson-Strawberry Letter 23 '77

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Awesome song that still sounds as good to as the 1st time I heard it

ROYKSOPP-Remind ME 2001

linklinklinklinkgeicolink

 

[HellToupee]

The Who -- Squeezebox -- 1975

This sounds dumb, but in college a friend of mine with huge boobs used to push her boobs together like an accordion during the song while dancing. She was playing her squeeze box.

Mama's got a squeeze box she wears on her chest...

I just saw her this past weekend at a Super Bowl party. She still has huge bOObs.

Sounds hawt

 

[KarmaPolice]

The Who -- Squeezebox -- 1975

This sounds dumb, but in college a friend of mine with huge boobs used to push her boobs together like an accordion during the song while dancing. She was playing her squeeze box.

Mama's got a squeeze box she wears on her chest...

I just saw her this past weekend at a Super Bowl party. She still has huge bOObs.

 

[simey]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

This has been a gripe of mine for years and one reason I don't see a lot of shows anymore. This even happens to me for the headliner. Hell, we've seen White Stripes and Broken Bells in smaller venues and both crowds were talking, dicking around on their cells, etc. Just felt to me like that was just the place to hang out on a weekend night, and 1/2 the people weren't there for the bands. Really damn annoying.

That band I mentioned earlier that got just as big a reception as the headliner was Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings. They opened for the Tedeschi Trucks Band. Both acts were great. Sharon Jones isn't any spring chicken, but she has more energy than most twenty something year olds when performing. The crowd danced the whole time to her show.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

It's not just a SF thing. A few years back, I was at a show that had Shearwater as the opener. Not some giant name opener, but not some random broke college kids. After every song of their brief set, parts of the crowd started screaming for the headliner and at one point yelled at the opener to get off the stage. I don't know how the lead singer kept it together but he did. The crowd started a chant for the headliner after one of Shearwater's songs, and he just leaned into the mic calmly and said "yeah they're great, but right now you've got us, 1, 2, 3, 4..." and went into a song.

I'd never seen anything quite like it, it was tremendously classless from sections of the crowd but I've got a lot of respect for Shearwater for keeping it together on-stage.

 

[Eephus]

I liked how today worked.

We still have a few who havent drafted yet. If we keep adding picks, they fall farther behind. Yes, it's their fault, but, would suck for them.

How many days would it take to finish the draft doing just two a day.

Today was Round 11, I believe, and I think there are 25 rounds (50 picks total), so another 14 days. Seems reasonable to me and plenty of time for fun commentary.

This. Two a day is perfect. Even on weekend days imo.

Sorry Thurs-Mon rules are set. That's democracy for ya

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

So I guess I owe two

A lot of my picks have come off of bands I got into because of footballguys. Zilla. Scorchy (my spirit animal), other guys who were a lot more active than me at the Hoof. One of my best college friends was way into this band, but I didn't get into them until I heard them on a mix from the awesome Beckster*.

The Jesus and Mary Chain -- Head On -- 1989

Nooooo!

This was on my next to pick list. Great song.

 

[Eephus]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

It's not just a SF thing. A few years back, I was at a show that had Shearwater as the opener. Not some giant name opener, but not some random broke college kids. After every song of their brief set, parts of the crowd started screaming for the headliner and at one point yelled at the opener to get off the stage. I don't know how the lead singer kept it together but he did. The crowd started a chant for the headliner after one of Shearwater's songs, and he just leaned into the mic calmly and said "yeah they're great, but right now you've got us, 1, 2, 3, 4..." and went into a song.

I'd never seen anything quite like it, it was tremendously classless from sections of the crowd but I've got a lot of respect for Shearwater for keeping it together on-stage.

If you're a band that signs up as a tour opener for Metallica, you know what you're in for. The exposure and the money are the tradeoff. But for a band that's scuffling to fill up the van, it really sucks.

I guess the fans think they're being loyal to the headliner which is pretty stupid even if you're drunk. The headliner isn't going to come on any earlier if the opener gets booed off. I reckon most headliners would want the crowd to support their tour buddies, although Lars is probably an exception.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I'm moving Richard Hell to 1976

The Brothers Johnson-Strawberry Letter 23 '77

linklinklink

Awesome song that still sounds as good to as the 1st time I heard it

ROYKSOPP-Remind ME 2001

linklinklinklinkgeicolink

I would have bet $100 that i'd be the first and only person to draft Royksopp. This is in my top 3 royksopp songs, but 2001 is a strong year. I will use my Royksopp in a weaker year coming up soon enough.

Great stuff

 

[Fiddles]

So I guess I owe two

A lot of my picks have come off of bands I got into because of footballguys. Zilla. Scorchy (my spirit animal), other guys who were a lot more active than me at the Hoof. One of my best college friends was way into this band, but I didn't get into them until I heard them on a mix from the awesome Beckster*.

The Jesus and Mary Chain -- Head On -- 1989

Nooooo!

This was on my next to pick list. Great song.

take the cover

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

So I guess I owe two

A lot of my picks have come off of bands I got into because of footballguys. Zilla. Scorchy (my spirit animal), other guys who were a lot more active than me at the Hoof. One of my best college friends was way into this band, but I didn't get into them until I heard them on a mix from the awesome Beckster*.

The Jesus and Mary Chain -- Head On -- 1989

Nooooo!

This was on my next to pick list. Great song.

take the cover

I LOVE the cover almost as much as the original but I don't want to double up on bands.

 

[Limp Ditka]

So I guess I owe two

A lot of my picks have come off of bands I got into because of footballguys. Zilla. Scorchy (my spirit animal), other guys who were a lot more active than me at the Hoof. One of my best college friends was way into this band, but I didn't get into them until I heard them on a mix from the awesome Beckster*.

The Jesus and Mary Chain -- Head On -- 1989

Nooooo!This was on my next to pick list. Great song.

take the cover

I LOVE the cover almost as much as the original but I don't want to double up on bands.

Still love the story of the band doing the cover live, before it was released on the album. They see a guy close to the stage that looks just like lead singer of J&MC, so before the song they dedicate to 'the guy over there that looks like Jim Reid'

Ended up being Jim Reid

 

[rockaction]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

I've pontificated about this on this forum many of times, but I saw Pearl Jam open up for two well known bands probably about 5-6 weeks before 10 was released. Outside of a few 'These are the MLB guys' whispers from others in the crowd, we had no idea who they were. To say that they completely stole the night would be an understatement. The energy that band brought that night still echoes in me.

That was a great show. I can't imagine hearing pearl jam for the first time at that show. I feel like I already knew ten at that show. I think I might have gotten it before it was released or something? I just looked it up ten release 8.27.91 and the pittsburgh show was 10.25.91.

I was at the 7.29.91 show in Chicago, so about 5 weeks before. Still remember walking into the local record store every Tuesday asking if they had the new Pearl Jam album and getting blank stares from whatever stoned person was behind the counter.

http://www.twofeetthick.com/concert-chronology/pj1991/

That link mentions Raygun, Ned's and UO, but that either the night before or after.

I remember the tour you might be speaking of with the two headlining bands. I made my friend go to see the openers because we got that one a week after Ten came out, and they announced that they weren't surprised. "If there ever was a time we'd play a place this big," said Vedder, "we knew it would be half-empty." But everyone there was blown away, and I am not a PJ fan.

CP stole the night, though. Second encore: "Do you want the long version or the short version?" asked Flea.

"I said do you want the long version or the short version?"

"LONG VERSION," yelled the crowd.

They played one note and left.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Saw them on that tour too, but the one before 10 was released was Soul Asylum and Jayhawks (yeah, I'm spotlighting)

As for the tour your talking about, SP got booed off the stage in their hometown. Was a very odd scene, but they were just awful.

 

[Mister CIA]

Please pardon my tardy ways, but I had red laser beams hovering over my torso as we rolled out a project at the ranch. I might make a pick or two shortly, but if I don't, rest assured I will catch in the next day or two.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

It's not just a SF thing. A few years back, I was at a show that had Shearwater as the opener. Not some giant name opener, but not some random broke college kids. After every song of their brief set, parts of the crowd started screaming for the headliner and at one point yelled at the opener to get off the stage. I don't know how the lead singer kept it together but he did. The crowd started a chant for the headliner after one of Shearwater's songs, and he just leaned into the mic calmly and said "yeah they're great, but right now you've got us, 1, 2, 3, 4..." and went into a song.

I'd never seen anything quite like it, it was tremendously classless from sections of the crowd but I've got a lot of respect for Shearwater for keeping it together on-stage.

If you're a band that signs up as a tour opener for Metallica, you know what you're in for. The exposure and the money are the tradeoff. But for a band that's scuffling to fill up the van, it really sucks.

I guess the fans think they're being loyal to the headliner which is pretty stupid even if you're drunk. The headliner isn't going to come on any earlier if the opener gets booed off. I reckon most headliners would want the crowd to support their tour buddies, although Lars is probably an exception.

I get that, but the headliner was St. Vincent....a far cry from Metallica.

The thing I don't get is that this particular venue is a two-room setup. There's an awesome giant oval bar in the room where you enter the venue. From there, you actually have to go into a second room to see the stage. I've been to shows before where I'm not into the opener for whatever reason....just stay in the other room and hang out by the bar if you wanna shoot the #### and talk and wait for the headliner. Why come into the room and not only ruin everyone else's experience by talking the whole time, but also be obnoxious to the opener? Made no sense to me.

 

[PIK95]

So what are the pick rules now? Tia.

 

[Eephus]

I really dislike the lack of courtesy shown to opening bands. Mrs eephus likes to stand up front so we're always there early. There are some acts you can't hear because the din from the bar is so loud. When I turn my head to scan the crowd, half the people are looking at their phones. Maybe it's just a SF thing but it bothers me. Maybe they're not the best band in the world but they're the best band playing right here, right now (no spotlighting) and they deserve some respect for getting up on stage.

ETA: and get off my lawn

It's not just a SF thing. A few years back, I was at a show that had Shearwater as the opener. Not some giant name opener, but not some random broke college kids. After every song of their brief set, parts of the crowd started screaming for the headliner and at one point yelled at the opener to get off the stage. I don't know how the lead singer kept it together but he did. The crowd started a chant for the headliner after one of Shearwater's songs, and he just leaned into the mic calmly and said "yeah they're great, but right now you've got us, 1, 2, 3, 4..." and went into a song.I'd never seen anything quite like it, it was tremendously classless from sections of the crowd but I've got a lot of respect for Shearwater for keeping it together on-stage.

If you're a band that signs up as a tour opener for Metallica, you know what you're in for. The exposure and the money are the tradeoff. But for a band that's scuffling to fill up the van, it really sucks.

I guess the fans think they're being loyal to the headliner which is pretty stupid even if you're drunk. The headliner isn't going to come on any earlier if the opener gets booed off. I reckon most headliners would want the crowd to support their tour buddies, although Lars is probably an exception.

I get that, but the headliner was St. Vincent....a far cry from Metallica.

Does Annie have any black friends?

 

[Eephus]

So what are the pick rules now? Tia.

see post 26 hundred something