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DI Jukebox Draft (66-15)- Listen up (2 Viewers)

The 90s were a very lucrative decade for the music industry. They made a ton of money reissuing catalog titles on CDs and spent a lot on hookers and blow. Downloading was a big deal then and the margins on CDs were huge.

I think the amount of money floating around had a negative impact on the art, at least in this country. Labels got into bidding wars for the next big thing. The bands got big advances that their debut albums couldn't possibly recoup. If the first albums tanked, the A&R people moved on to the next next big thing and the bands broke up after losing their deals. This cycle lead to the industry making safer bets on mainstream artists they thought would sell and on veteran artists who had an existing audience. REM's deal with Warners is the classic example of the latter. Based on a quick google, it was $80M for five albums, the first of which was New Adventures in Hi-Fi. And that's why Peter Buck can afford to tour with whoever he damned pleases now.
Then Napster and, more generally, the internet hit. And satellite radio. Then Tower Records went broke. And the music industry fought a rear guard battle against it, just digging in their heels instead of embracing the new tech. Just like cable companies, they are ####### themselves and don't know it.
I always wonder how the whole thing would have went if they just cut napster a deal (sans Metalllica)
I have zero sympathy for BIG MUSIC, but I only feel a little worse for established artists who whined through the whole "file sharing" thing. Freaking Metallica made a good portion of their name through bootlegging, then they hit it big and all of a sudden sharing music was awful.

This will probably sound weird, but I think the big acts of the 70s/80s/90s made TOO much money - and they couldn't adjust to a market correction.

 
I think a lot of this is contextual. I was either in college or just beginning my adult life in the early to mid 90s. To me, that's a pop/rock golden age. But I'm probably just nostalgic for it. The late 90s to 2002 or so feels like a barren period to me, but that's just the time I quit following music before a bunch of nerds on the internet kind of got me back in it.

 
The 90s were a very lucrative decade for the music industry. They made a ton of money reissuing catalog titles on CDs and spent a lot on hookers and blow. Downloading was a big deal then and the margins on CDs were huge.

I think the amount of money floating around had a negative impact on the art, at least in this country. Labels got into bidding wars for the next big thing. The bands got big advances that their debut albums couldn't possibly recoup. If the first albums tanked, the A&R people moved on to the next next big thing and the bands broke up after losing their deals. This cycle lead to the industry making safer bets on mainstream artists they thought would sell and on veteran artists who had an existing audience. REM's deal with Warners is the classic example of the latter. Based on a quick google, it was $80M for five albums, the first of which was New Adventures in Hi-Fi. And that's why Peter Buck can afford to tour with whoever he damned pleases now.
Then Napster and, more generally, the internet hit. And satellite radio. Then Tower Records went broke. And the music industry fought a rear guard battle against it, just digging in their heels instead of embracing the new tech. Just like cable companies, they are ####### themselves and don't know it.
I always wonder how the whole thing would have went if they just cut napster a deal (sans Metalllica)
I have zero sympathy for BIG MUSIC, but I only feel a little worse for established artists who whined through the whole "file sharing" thing. Freaking Metallica made a good portion of their name through bootlegging, then they hit it big and all of a sudden sharing music was awful.This will probably sound weird, but I think the big acts of the 70s/80s/90s made TOO much money - and they couldn't adjust to a market correction.
A lot of the artists did what you'd expect with the big money.

I think a bigger problem is the industry grew fat and happy on unsustainable back catalog CD sales. They kept marketing to aging boomers because they were the ones buying the Eagles Greatest Hits and lost touch with what the kids were doing. Napster and the iPod ate their lunch.

 
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I think a lot of this is contextual. I was either in college or just beginning my adult life in the early to mid 90s. To me, that's a pop/rock golden age. But I'm probably just nostalgic for it. The late 90s to 2002 or so feels like a barren period to me, but that's just the time I quit following music before a bunch of nerds on the internet kind of got me back in it.
I don't think it is that contextual. Granted, there are some genres that I don't really follow, but I do try to look for new artists and I Shazam stuff all the time. For whatever reason, that era is pretty dead to me as well. Late 70s to 1995ish has a lot of music I like from a lot of different artists.

 
Another thing that happened in the 90s was tighter formatting of radio and the audience fragmentation that followed.

The 80s had gigantic pop acts like MJ, Prince and Madonna that reached a broad audience. Pop acts a decade later were targeted at much narrower demographic groups.

But I'm just guessing. We were raising babies in the 90s.

 
simey, how's BIL doing?
He's hanging in there. The doctor said 75% of the time the intestines straighten themselves back out on their own so, they are giving it a couple days. He was extremely dehydrated. He's as stubborn as a mule, and it took him throwing up green vomit and barely having a pulse to get him to go to the hospital. We reminded him that our uncle died after throwing up green vomit. My uncle had an appendectomy, and the hospital didn't keep him even overnight, and he was even gangrenous when they did the appendectomy. They gave him no antibiotic. He got very ill and went back to the hospital, and once again they gave him no antibiotic. He was sent home and my aunt found him dead in the bathroom. He died from being septic. She sued for negligence and they settled with her.

 
The 90s were a very lucrative decade for the music industry. They made a ton of money reissuing catalog titles on CDs and spent a lot on hookers and blow. Downloading was a big deal then and the margins on CDs were huge.

I think the amount of money floating around had a negative impact on the art, at least in this country. Labels got into bidding wars for the next big thing. The bands got big advances that their debut albums couldn't possibly recoup. If the first albums tanked, the A&R people moved on to the next next big thing and the bands broke up after losing their deals. This cycle lead to the industry making safer bets on mainstream artists they thought would sell and on veteran artists who had an existing audience. REM's deal with Warners is the classic example of the latter. Based on a quick google, it was $80M for five albums, the first of which was New Adventures in Hi-Fi. And that's why Peter Buck can afford to tour with whoever he damned pleases now.
Then Napster and, more generally, the internet hit. And satellite radio. Then Tower Records went broke. And the music industry fought a rear guard battle against it, just digging in their heels instead of embracing the new tech. Just like cable companies, they are ####### themselves and don't know it.
I always wonder how the whole thing would have went if they just cut napster a deal (sans Metalllica)
I have zero sympathy for BIG MUSIC, but I only feel a little worse for established artists who whined through the whole "file sharing" thing. Freaking Metallica made a good portion of their name through bootlegging, then they hit it big and all of a sudden sharing music was awful.This will probably sound weird, but I think the big acts of the 70s/80s/90s made TOO much money - and they couldn't adjust to a market correction.
A lot of the artists did what you'd expect with the big money.

I think a bigger problem is the industry grew fat and happy on unsustainable back catalog CD sales. They kept marketing to aging boomers because they were the ones buying the Eagles Greatest Hits and lost touch with what the kids were doing. Napster and the iPod ate their lunch.
Good point. I know I replaced (& then some) my entire vinyl catalog with CDs in the 80s/90s.

Horse is out of the barn now, though.

Their new targets are, of course, the smallest of the small (who can't fight back) - free form web channels some dude is running out of his/her basement. Meanwhile, they continue to fight for a dying business model.

 
simey, how's BIL doing?
He's hanging in there. The doctor said 75% of the time the intestines straighten themselves back out on their own so, they are giving it a couple days. He was extremely dehydrated. He's as stubborn as a mule, and it took him throwing up green vomit and barely having a pulse to get him to go to the hospital. We reminded him that our uncle died after throwing up green vomit. My uncle had an appendectomy, and the hospital didn't keep him even overnight, and he was even gangrenous when they did the appendectomy. They gave him no antibiotic. He got very ill and went back to the hospital, and once again they gave him no antibiotic. He was sent home and my aunt found him dead in the bathroom. He died from being septic. She sued for negligence and they settled with her.
Good to hear about the BIL. Sorry about your uncle. :(

 
simey, how's BIL doing?
He's hanging in there. The doctor said 75% of the time the intestines straighten themselves back out on their own so, they are giving it a couple days. He was extremely dehydrated. He's as stubborn as a mule, and it took him throwing up green vomit and barely having a pulse to get him to go to the hospital. We reminded him that our uncle died after throwing up green vomit. My uncle had an appendectomy, and the hospital didn't keep him even overnight, and he was even gangrenous when they did the appendectomy. They gave him no antibiotic. He got very ill and went back to the hospital, and once again they gave him no antibiotic. He was sent home and my aunt found him dead in the bathroom. He died from being septic. She sued for negligence and they settled with her.
Good to hear about the BIL. Sorry about your uncle. :(
Sepsis and bacterium is serious, serious stuff. Sorry to hear about your uncle.

 
15.fubar

Rehab, sittin at a bar, 2000

https://youtu.be/seFqawsUwUQ

I guess it's meant to be

Romance is misery

So much for memories

And now I'm headed to the Penitentiary

See me on T.V.

The next cop series

I am a danger

I guess I should've done something about my anger

But I'll never learn

Real things I don't concern

I pour kerosene on everything I love and watch it burn

I know it's my fault

But I wasn't happy it was over

She through a fit so I crashed that piece a #### nova

Band of horses, laredo, 2010

https://youtu.be/YH8QICzCO8g
Laredo love this tune and album

 
this thread is so fun what is the rule is it the year a song was released or when it got big and charted up brohans take that to the bank

 
Speaking of...

Binky the Doormat might jump in over the weekend and the deal is open to others.

The only caveat is that you have to make all outstanding picks (~25) in one or two posts so spreadsheet updates aren't too hard.

This offer expires Sunday at midnight PST. After that, the door is barred and the bar sign switched off.


 
this thread is so fun what is the rule is it the year a song was released or when it got big and charted up brohans take that to the bank
If I put your favorite song in my jukebox, you better spend some money in my bar when you're on the island, brewhan. * Unless you're going to join the draft.

 
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Speaking of...

Binky the Doormat might jump in over the weekend and the deal is open to others.

The only caveat is that you have to make all outstanding picks (~25) in one or two posts so spreadsheet updates aren't too hard.

This offer expires Sunday at midnight PST. After that, the door is barred and the bar sign switched off.
Fantastic. Get in here, Bink

 
zamboni said:
Steve Tasker said:
Who knew that they made Duran Duran trading cards?
I still have my Charlie's Angels cards from the '70s.
I remember going into my dad's office building in the 70s, and one of the office rooms had the Farrah in a swimsuit poster up on the wall. This was an IBM building.

 
I said today's theme was love and love at a bar on Friday night is a one night stand kind of love. It's the kind of love that begins with aggressive make-out sessions in the corner and ends with an 8 AM walk of shame.

If you're horny, let's do it.

15.A

1996- Ginuwine Pony

Bonus points for the music video which starts with a dive-bar jukebox.

All I wanna do is zoom a-zoom zoom zoom and poom poom

15.B

1992 Wreckx-n-Effect Rump Shaker

 
15.a - Alkaline Trio - 97 (1997) - :heart:
Now there's a name I haven't heard in forever. Used to be very into them in early college in my pop punk/emo phase :bag: . Good stuff.
There is no shame in that game. It's on the rebound these days with the kids.
Loved the Trio. Kickass band. I saw them twice in concert. Once was real fun, the second show was one of the worst concerts of my life. Skiba was so screwed up they had to get a second guitar player to stand off stage and play his guitar parts. I don't even think the volume was on for his guitar. He mumbled and slurred his way through the show, but it was bad.

 
I said today's theme was love and love at a bar on Friday night is a one night stand kind of love. It's the kind of love that begins with aggressive make-out sessions in the corner and ends with an 8 AM walk of shame.

If you're horny, let's do it.

15.A

1996- Ginuwine Pony

Bonus points for the music video which starts with a dive-bar jukebox.

All I wanna do is zoom a-zoom zoom zoom and poom poom

15.B

1992 Wreckx-n-Effect Rump Shaker
you might want to double up on security during these tunes. i foresee fights breaking out on someone looking at someone's woman, etc.

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I know when one of those songs come on, I'm either at the Island teen bar or roller rink.

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I know when one of those songs come on, I'm either at the Island teen bar or roller rink.
I picture it more as the music played at whatever kind of salon 60 year old midwest women go to get their hair permed.

 
I said today's theme was love and love at a bar on Friday night is a one night stand kind of love. It's the kind of love that begins with aggressive make-out sessions in the corner and ends with an 8 AM walk of shame.

If you're horny, let's do it.

15.A

1996- Ginuwine Pony

Bonus points for the music video which starts with a dive-bar jukebox.

All I wanna do is zoom a-zoom zoom zoom and poom poom

15.B

1992 Wreckx-n-Effect Rump Shaker
you might want to double up on security during these tunes. i foresee fights breaking out on someone looking at someone's woman, etc.
That might have to be the next set of songs: drunk male testosterone unleashed

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I have. Many of Tim's songs aren't the songs I like the least. :shrug:
I am not saying I dislike them all. Some are fine. They just really stick out.
I'm wondering how they stick out, since they are about as mainstream as they come. I'm not trying to argue, just curious at this point of view

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I have. Many of Tim's songs aren't the songs I like the least. :shrug:
I am not saying I dislike them all. Some are fine. They just really stick out.
I'm wondering how they stick out, since they are about as mainstream as they come. I'm not trying to argue, just curious at this point of view
I can't speak for anybody else, but they would stick out to me because they're algorithmic pop, and the rest of these songs are angular and holisitic and organic, for the most part, maybe? Like bending math a bit instead of Blues Traveler's Hook. That's the best I can do. A timdraft is a timdraft; a timsong is a timsong.

:)

 
This is my jukebox Christmas song. Hallelujah everybody say "Cheese" :pics:

15.19 - Merry Christmas from the Family - Robert Earl Keen (1994)

This song I had never heard before until it played in a jukebox in a dive I used to frequent in Florida, and I liked it. This jukebox had a variety of all sorts of 45s. I couldn't tell you another song Clint sings, but this honky tonk drinking song is going on my jukebox. If you wear a cowboy hat and play it, I'll give you a free shot. If you look good in that hat, I'll you two free shots.

15.19 - Killin' Time - Clint Black (1989)

you were the first thing that I thought of, when I thought I drank you off my mind

when I get lost in the liquor, you're the only one I find
and if I did the things I oughta, you still would not be mine
so I'll keep a tight grip on the bottle, gettin' loose and killin' time :towelwave:


 
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How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I have. Many of Tim's songs aren't the songs I like the least. :shrug:
I am not saying I dislike them all. Some are fine. They just really stick out.
I'm wondering how they stick out, since they are about as mainstream as they come. I'm not trying to argue, just curious at this point of view
Most of them are covered in more sugar than a birthday cake. Just ultra pop.

 
15.19 - Killin' Time - Clint Black (1989)

you were the first thing that I thought of, when I thought I drank you off my mind

when I get lost in the liquor, you're the only one I findand if I did the things I oughta, you still would not be mine

so I'll keep a tight grip on the bottle, gettin' loose and killin' time :towelwave:

:rant:

This was my secret 1989 pick. I hope Skip Holtz comes back to coach ECU

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I have. Many of Tim's songs aren't the songs I like the least. :shrug:
I am not saying I dislike them all. Some are fine. They just really stick out.
I'm wondering how they stick out, since they are about as mainstream as they come. I'm not trying to argue, just curious at this point of view
Most of them are covered in more sugar than a birthday cake. Just ultra pop.
"Don't Stop Believing" and - irony alert! - "Pour Some Sugar On Me" were two of your picks, no?

 
How many of you have been listening to the master playlist on Spotify? Freaking Tim, his songs stick out so much. There is just no mistaking a Tim song.
I have. Many of Tim's songs aren't the songs I like the least. :shrug:
What haven't you liked so far?
Of Tim's picks? I don't know about the newer songs, but of those he's picked that I've heard often:

"Soak Up The Sun"

"Smooth"

"MMmBop"

""You Gotta Be"

"I Only Wanna Be With You"

"Black Or White"

"Eternal Flame"

 

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