Drafts this Weekend (1 Viewer)

[BigRed]

Let's see:

- holding out

- somewhat injury prone

- his QB (and most of the OL it seems) similar

- 2 starting OLs already hurt

- lost Bruce

He could sign tomorrow and I'd pass.

 

[PahtyTom]

Let's see:- holding out- somewhat injury prone- his QB (and most of the OL it seems) similar- 2 starting OLs already hurt- lost BruceHe could sign tomorrow and I'd pass.

You'd pass what? On him at 1.04? Ok, I think most would agree right now. But at 1.09? 2.01? I think the discussion here is at what point is the value too much to pass.

 

[Yenrub]

 

[Marc Levin]

Let's see:- holding out- somewhat injury prone- his QB (and most of the OL it seems) similar- 2 starting OLs already hurt- lost BruceHe could sign tomorrow and I'd pass.

You'd pass what? On him at 1.04? Ok, I think most would agree right now. But at 1.09? 2.01? I think the discussion here is at what point is the value too much to pass.

I am not passing on SJax for Larry Johnson or Lynch, so Pahty Tom has properly enunciated the issue. The farthest he should fall under most formats (IMO) is 9 or 10 - that gives you Moss/Brady/top-7 RBs plus any one, but not two, of Barber/Lynch/LJ. SJax should not make it to the 1.12/2.01 flop under most formats.

 

[joffer]

Setterstrom was a starter and Gorin a backup, correct?

August 17, 2008, 23:10 Rams :: OLRams OT Gorin To Be Placed On IR With Shoulder InjuryAssociated Press, NFL.com - [Full Article]St. Louis Rams offensive tackle Brandon Gorin will be placed on season-ending injured reserve as the result of a shoulder injury sustained in the team's preseason opener. "There's some pretty significant damage that didn't show up on the first MRI," head coach Scott Linehan said. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------August 17, 2008, 23:04 Rams :: OLRams OG Setterstrom Fractures Kneecap, Headed To IRAssociated Press, NFL.com - [Full Article]St. Louis Rams offensive guard Mark Setterstrom fractured his left kneecap during the team's preseason game against the San Diego Chargers on Saturday. He will subsequently be placed on season-ending injured reserve.

 

[UW72]

he went 1.12 start up keeper league (0.5 PPR only for WR/TE)

four rookies in the draft who picked Manning 1.04, Brees 1.06, Lynch 1.07 and LJ 1.10)

the guy on the turn got SJax and Portis

 

[joffer]

Setterstrom was a starter and Gorin a backup, correct?

bump

 

[Dexter Manley]

He went at 1.06 to a Rams homer in my draft last Saturday. I passed on him at 1.04, and fwiw 3 of the other guys who passed on him are huge Rams fans.

 

[chidoy]

I just don't know how high I would go with him anymore. I'm a huge SJax fan, but with the holdout, it seems more and more like an LJ situation as stated earlier. With the new O-line injuries, I would say I would be hesitant taking him in rd.1

From STLToday.com

Despite rumblings over the weekend that there might be some movement on the Steven Jackson front, sources familiar with the negotiations — or lack thereof — say there was no dialogue between the Rams and Jackson's agent save for a brief phone call Friday between the parties.

"It is getting critical to where time now becomes more of an issue for just the physical part of getting ready for the opener," Linehan said. "Every day we miss now … does start to factor in as to what the workload will be from the start.

Linky

 

[puckalicious]

As I posted here, I don't agree with the "holding out causes injury" predictions.

However I would like to see a deeper analysis than what I did - that was just a 15 minute search for the last couple seasons. A database of all RB's that held out vs. RB's that did not, and the resulting injuries that occured the same season.

Statistically speaking I don't think there will be much difference in the injury rate between the two groups, but I would rather have the numbers do the talking. A single sample point of LJ last year does not indicate a trend. But I am selfishly glad others are convinced of it, maybe SJ will drop to me at 9 this year.

 

[mozzy84]

I just don't know how high I would go with him anymore. I'm a huge SJax fan, but with the holdout, it seems more and more like an LJ situation as stated earlier. With the new O-line injuries, I would say I would be hesitant taking him in rd.1

From STLToday.com

Despite rumblings over the weekend that there might be some movement on the Steven Jackson front, sources familiar with the negotiations — or lack thereof — say there was no dialogue between the Rams and Jackson's agent save for a brief phone call Friday between the parties.

"It is getting critical to where time now becomes more of an issue for just the physical part of getting ready for the opener," Linehan said. "Every day we miss now … does start to factor in as to what the workload will be from the start.

Linky

uug after reading that as much as a hated the idea I might be keeping brady over jackson.

 

[Warhogs]

I grabbed Jackson at 1.12 yesterday.

I also grabbed Pittman at pick 17.12.

Hopefully he will be the correct handcuff.

 

[mdog1967]

he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.

You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.

Stupid? how about cautious and in some cases smart to be worried, not stupid. Still lots of question marks with the Rams this year. Supreme talent is Jackson, but the Team needs to be in sync to start the year and with Jackson still out it should give some potential owners pause. I would start dropping Jackson down a notch every couple of days going forward that he does not report to camp.

 

[tonydead]

he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.

You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.

Stupid? how about cautious and in some cases smart to be worried, not stupid. Still lots of question marks with the Rams this year. Supreme talent is Jackson, but the Team needs to be in sync to start the year and with Jackson still out it should give some potential owners pause. I would start dropping Jackson down a notch every couple of days going forward that he does not report to camp.

Went 1-10 in a WCOFF online league last night. Seems about right.

 

[eric rymer]

I am not worried about him getting signed and on the field. I would be more worried about him getting hurt. I know most guys don't need preseason to be ready, but they do need that contact to be prepared. Especially a workhorse back like Sjax. The closer this comes to the season opener the more I would be concerned. The sooner he signs the better. Some people might not be to worried about it, but I do.

 

[mt-wabo]

He went 1.07 in mine yesterday, and the owner is nervous as hell

 

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I wouldn't take him in the 1st round right now... would be hesitant to take him in the 2nd in any serious league which means I wont' be owning him in any leagues this year. I'm okay with that.

 

[tree fitty]

he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.

You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.

Stupid? how about cautious and in some cases smart to be worried, not stupid. Still lots of question marks with the Rams this year. Supreme talent is Jackson, but the Team needs to be in sync to start the year and with Jackson still out it should give some potential owners pause. I would start dropping Jackson down a notch every couple of days going forward that he does not report to camp.

Went 1-10 in a WCOFF online league last night. Seems about right.

that's the draft i was in. to much value to pass up there. were you in this draft? and if so what team were you?

 

[tonydead]

he fell to 1.12 last week to me. And I'm scared like hell that he hasn't reported yet.

You should be thrilled. Go look back through the history of RB's that held out during camp and see how many missed regular season games as a result. You have a lot of stupid owners in your league.

Stupid? how about cautious and in some cases smart to be worried, not stupid. Still lots of question marks with the Rams this year. Supreme talent is Jackson, but the Team needs to be in sync to start the year and with Jackson still out it should give some potential owners pause. I would start dropping Jackson down a notch every couple of days going forward that he does not report to camp.

Went 1-10 in a WCOFF online league last night. Seems about right.

that's the draft i was in. to much value to pass up there. were you in this draft? and if so what team were you?

What, and let you in on all my secrets? I'd have to start posting with an alias. Hint: See the Calvin Johnson thread. LOLYeah, I would've taken him somewhere around 10 or 11, it's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out now. Good luck tree.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

SJax went at 1.09 in our PPR league which started today

 

[Sulla]

Bah! Took SJax at 1.05 today over Addai and didn't even flinch.

P.S. Handcuff pick coming up...

 

[BigRed]

duplicate post

 

[xenith]

I'm drafting Saturday, 11th in 12 team PPR league. If S-Jax is there @11, he is mine! But there are teams at 7, 8, and 10 that I don't think will be overly nervious to take him, so I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[thecardiackid]

Passing @ 5, and praying someone takes Brady or Moss so Addai drops to 5.

Don't have the stones to pull the trigger @ #5. And it has as much to do w/ how bad Bulger looks, combined w/ the continued O line injury issues.

Pick 8 on (after MBIII and Gore, it's probably easier), but I'd take Lynch over SJ now also. At least @ the tail end of the round, you can cover yourself a little better, reducing the risk.

 

[blackjack23]

I was all set to take Addai at 5 but now I might not get the chance I really dont wanna make a decision between SJax and Moss I might try to trade down if Addai goes.

 

[Zow]

went 1.06 in my recent draft - another one coming up this weekend

FWIW I have him ranked at 1.07 in a ppr (behind lt, ad, westy, addai, moss, brady)

 

[GDogg]

I was all set to take Addai at 5 but now I might not get the chance I really dont wanna make a decision between SJax and Moss I might try to trade down if Addai goes.

Addai went 1.03 in my weekend PPR draft.

 

[dmonte]

I'm drafting Thursday night ... 12th pick in a 14-team league. Given the responses above, there's a legitimate chance that he could be there at #12.

If you had the 12th pick in a 14-team league, would you draft him #12 if he's available?

 

[BigRed]

Let's see:- holding out- somewhat injury prone- his QB (and most of the OL it seems) similar- 2 starting OLs already hurt- lost BruceHe could sign tomorrow and I'd pass.

You'd pass what? On him at 1.04? Ok, I think most would agree right now. But at 1.09? 2.01? I think the discussion here is at what point is the value too much to pass.

I am not passing on SJax for Larry Johnson or Lynch, so Pahty Tom has properly enunciated the issue. The farthest he should fall under most formats (IMO) is 9 or 10 - that gives you Moss/Brady/top-7 RBs plus any one, but not two, of Barber/Lynch/LJ. SJax should not make it to the 1.12/2.01 flop under most formats.

I auction draft so "what round" is N/A to me. Basically I know someone will pay more than I will to get him and he will not be on my team. Way too much risk.

Stupid? how about cautious and in some cases smart to be worried, not stupid. Still lots of question marks with the Rams this year.

Exactly. Having a first round pick bust is about the last thing you want to happen. Generally speaking, I'll take safety over glitz and "upside" every time.

 

[gump]

I'll take safety over glitz and "upside" every time.

I agree...but I also realize that someone who does take that risk on upside may end up being the champ because of it.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

Passing @ 5, and praying someone takes Brady or Moss so Addai drops to 5.Don't have the stones to pull the trigger @ #5. And it has as much to do w/ how bad Bulger looks, combined w/ the continued O line injury issues.Pick 8 on (after MBIII and Gore, it's probably easier), but I'd take Lynch over SJ now also. At least @ the tail end of the round, you can cover yourself a little better, reducing the risk.

I'm taking Portis at 1.05 and not looking back.

 

[dagogrease]

My main league's draft is this week and was curious as to where Steven Jackson has been falling to. Have those who have drafted lately seen him dropping past the top 5 or is there still a belief that he'll be in camp and taking him a 3 or 4 is worth while.

12 team redraft from last night, he went 1.07