JohnnyU
Footballguy
You don't think Dillon is worth a late 1st in 2023, yet you think Jones is worth an early 2nd in 2022? I know the difference between the two drafts comes into play, but Dillon has looked very good and is young.
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Well those are not the same draft picks or really even close and Aaron Jones>CEH.
They also have the same YPC and close in age.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'd give a late 2023 1st for Dillon if I needed RB help. You're not getting one of the highly touted RB prospects with a late 1st and I'm not so sure I'm sold on the 2023 WRs except for about three (Smith-Njigba, Boutte, and possibly Quinton Johnson or Addison). I'm speaking from a non-SF perspective however.
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I've seen league favorites end up with high picks. I just think I can do a lot better with that asset then the second part of a RBBC.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
This is probably Arron Jones last year with Green Bay. They can save a lot of money by parting ways with him after this season. Aaron Jones’ contract shows a $4.5M salary cap hit for 2021 & an easy out after 2022
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Then Dillon's enters last year on his contract. Again I think I can do a lot better with that asset then hoping Aaron Jones leaves so that if I survive FA and the draft I got something in 2023. Other then that you need Aaron Jones to go down for have something of tangible value.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That is not true. Dillon had plenty of value last year with Aaron Jones playing. He had 800 yards and 5 TDs rushing and 34 receptions for 313 yards and 2 TDs receiving. That is 1100 yards and 7 TDs of production.
It is true.
If you back the two games out that Jones missed, and Dillon was not that great in those games, but since we are looking at him with Jones that's what you got to do.
687/5, 27/265/2 in 15 games.
That's 10.94 fantasy points a game. That's RB36 to oddly enough Dillon who was actually RB35 which only shows he failed to capitalize when Jones was out.
We might define tangible value differently.
I wasn’t big on Dillon for this year but now with the departure of Adams I think both Dillon and Jones could both be strong contributors this year. Dillon may be the primary rusher, Jones may catch 100 balls. Lots of targets available now and Rodgers is not known for trusting rookie WR’s so whoever they draft probably isn’t looking at a Jefferson or Chase level rookie year.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Players in your league's free bin that have your attention?
Perhaps you've been able to add someone during the offseason. My 1/2 PPR 1QB locks for the NFL playoffs until the August draft where rookies and FAs are combined.
12 teams x 24 players
My highest rated available FA is Okwuegbunam, who I have placed in the mid-3rd of my early draft board. I think this offseason has produced a number of somewhat interesting depth FA TEs including Hurst, Tonyan (late 3rd targets) and Njoku (early 4th). Guys not currently in my top 60 that I'm watching: Jacob Harris, Moreau, Granson, Noah Gray.
At QB (1QB league), I'm most interested in Winston and Davis Mills (end of my 3rd round). I'm in the market for a "safe" backup and might be willing to roster Matt Ryan with a late 4th. The production wasn't that bad last season until Ridley stepped away. Trubisky is currently off my board but I could see that changing. Will keep an eye on Huntley but not worth the roster stash in 1QB. Goff and Darnold are less intriguing starting options with Lock and Mariota a half-step below that.
Kylin Hill is the only FA RB I have in my top 60. If it seems like he has made a full recovery and can start building on the positive buzz from last August, I will probably move him up. I think he has a chance to complement Dillon if Jones departs. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, Demetric Felton, Tony Jones, Craig Reynolds, and the infinite James White is probably the headliner of guys I'm watching, but I can't say I'm too intrigued by any of these. If a team gives Guice a chance I'm interested, but I'm not expecting that to happen.
Nico Collins is my top rated FA WR, targeting in the 4th round. James Washington and People-Jones are guys I'm looking at in 5th that might have an opportunity to grab an early role. I haven't been a big Lazard fan, but you can't ignore him until a proven solution emerges in the Packers' receiving core. Him and Crowder are guys I would probably be more interested in if I needed the depth. I'm kind of expecting McKenzie and Crowder to cap any upside between the two, but could be wrong. I have Auden Tate at the 5.12. I believe either Cecil or Waldman was a big proponent. I'm not optimistic, but one would think the opportunity will be there in ATL. Currently off my board, but Interested in Anthony Schwartz on the chance that he can do his best Will Fuller impression running deep routes for Watson. Maybe Denzel Mims or Darden if they find a fresh start.
Perhaps you've been able to add someone during the offseason. My 1/2 PPR 1QB locks for the NFL playoffs until the August draft where rookies and FAs are combined.
12 teams x 24 players
My highest rated available FA is Okwuegbunam, who I have placed in the mid-3rd of my early draft board. I think this offseason has produced a number of somewhat interesting depth FA TEs including Hurst, Tonyan (late 3rd targets) and Njoku (early 4th). Guys not currently in my top 60 that I'm watching: Jacob Harris, Moreau, Granson, Noah Gray.
At QB (1QB league), I'm most interested in Winston and Davis Mills (end of my 3rd round). I'm in the market for a "safe" backup and might be willing to roster Matt Ryan with a late 4th. The production wasn't that bad last season until Ridley stepped away. Trubisky is currently off my board but I could see that changing. Will keep an eye on Huntley but not worth the roster stash in 1QB. Goff and Darnold are less intriguing starting options with Lock and Mariota a half-step below that.
Kylin Hill is the only FA RB I have in my top 60. If it seems like he has made a full recovery and can start building on the positive buzz from last August, I will probably move him up. I think he has a chance to complement Dillon if Jones departs. Ke'Shawn Vaughn, Demetric Felton, Tony Jones, Craig Reynolds, and the infinite James White is probably the headliner of guys I'm watching, but I can't say I'm too intrigued by any of these. If a team gives Guice a chance I'm interested, but I'm not expecting that to happen.
Nico Collins is my top rated FA WR, targeting in the 4th round. James Washington and People-Jones are guys I'm looking at in 5th that might have an opportunity to grab an early role. I haven't been a big Lazard fan, but you can't ignore him until a proven solution emerges in the Packers' receiving core. Him and Crowder are guys I would probably be more interested in if I needed the depth. I'm kind of expecting McKenzie and Crowder to cap any upside between the two, but could be wrong. I have Auden Tate at the 5.12. I believe either Cecil or Waldman was a big proponent. I'm not optimistic, but one would think the opportunity will be there in ATL. Currently off my board, but Interested in Anthony Schwartz on the chance that he can do his best Will Fuller impression running deep routes for Watson. Maybe Denzel Mims or Darden if they find a fresh start.
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I'm wondering if anyone finds the trade block (if your platform has one) a useful tool.
I have all my leagues on Sleeper and there is no option for inputting what you are looking for in return, so I typically don't use the trade block feature. Today, I must have inadvertently clicked on the trade block button for Zach Wilson while scrolling through the trade page in one of my leagues (12 team 0.5 PPR SF with 1 TEP). Within minutes, I receive a low ball offer of Sony Michel and 2.08 for Wilson.
In my experience, this is a fairly typical type of offer when I've put players on the trade block. Does putting a player on the trade block signal some sort of desperation to move off of said player? Or do I just happen to be in leagues with other managers who are always looking to only get something for nothing and don't understand that a trade should have a benefit to both sides? I suspect it's the latter. I also suspect that a majority of random leagues (where you have no pre-existing relationship with most of the other members) are like this.
I have all my leagues on Sleeper and there is no option for inputting what you are looking for in return, so I typically don't use the trade block feature. Today, I must have inadvertently clicked on the trade block button for Zach Wilson while scrolling through the trade page in one of my leagues (12 team 0.5 PPR SF with 1 TEP). Within minutes, I receive a low ball offer of Sony Michel and 2.08 for Wilson.
In my experience, this is a fairly typical type of offer when I've put players on the trade block. Does putting a player on the trade block signal some sort of desperation to move off of said player? Or do I just happen to be in leagues with other managers who are always looking to only get something for nothing and don't understand that a trade should have a benefit to both sides? I suspect it's the latter. I also suspect that a majority of random leagues (where you have no pre-existing relationship with most of the other members) are like this.
Drezden
Footballguy
AJBrown, I am trying to trade for AJBrown, I own 1.02 and 2.07 but the owner said "not close, add 1st in 2013 and I may consider", I don't want to include 1st next year. Wondering what other people think about Brown value compared to picks.
PPR 16 teams, start 1QB
PPR 16 teams, start 1QB
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1.02 and 2.07 is probably not going to get it done with most people, but adding on a 23’ 1st seems like too much to me. A 2023 2nd sounds about right.
Format, league size, etc all matter as well.
rockaction
Footballguy
Ideally, if you're the Brown GM, you're going to want a little more than that, but a 2023 1st in addition to that offer is indeed too much. But a 2023 2nd probably won't light a fire, either. So you're sort of in no-man's land here.
Yep. One of those situations where you’re probably just going to have to overpay to get your guy. Which, I don’t think the additional 23’ 1st is overly egregious. I just don’t think I could pull the trigger. But Brown is a beast for sure.
rockaction
Footballguy
I sort of agree with all of this, except I moved Brown because I was bit down on him. Don't know why. I think it's that his opportunities never seem commensurate with his talent, and therefore, he's only had a top-ten finish once or something like that. I just don't see the price, really.
The trade block can be useful but much of the time players rot on the vine there. My experience is people use it in the off season and/or start of the season and then they stay there for months. That is my biggest issue with it. It ends up being meaningless.zaner75 said:I'm wondering if anyone finds the trade block (if your platform has one) a useful tool.
I have all my leagues on Sleeper and there is no option for inputting what you are looking for in return, so I typically don't use the trade block feature. Today, I must have inadvertently clicked on the trade block button for Zach Wilson while scrolling through the trade page in one of my leagues (12 team 0.5 PPR SF with 1 TEP). Within minutes, I receive a low ball offer of Sony Michel and 2.08 for Wilson.
In my experience, this is a fairly typical type of offer when I've put players on the trade block. Does putting a player on the trade block signal some sort of desperation to move off of said player? Or do I just happen to be in leagues with other managers who are always looking to only get something for nothing and don't understand that a trade should have a benefit to both sides? I suspect it's the latter. I also suspect that a majority of random leagues (where you have no pre-existing relationship with most of the other members) are like this.
zaner75 said:I'm wondering if anyone finds the trade block (if your platform has one) a useful tool.
I have all my leagues on Sleeper and there is no option for inputting what you are looking for in return, so I typically don't use the trade block feature. Today, I must have inadvertently clicked on the trade block button for Zach Wilson while scrolling through the trade page in one of my leagues (12 team 0.5 PPR SF with 1 TEP). Within minutes, I receive a low ball offer of Sony Michel and 2.08 for Wilson.
In my experience, this is a fairly typical type of offer when I've put players on the trade block. Does putting a player on the trade block signal some sort of desperation to move off of said player? Or do I just happen to be in leagues with other managers who are always looking to only get something for nothing and don't understand that a trade should have a benefit to both sides? I suspect it's the latter. I also suspect that a majority of random leagues (where you have no pre-existing relationship with most of the other members) are like this.
I think most managers will treat it close to this way - if you have essentially announced you are looking to move someone, they will take that as you are down on them and look to lowball an offer. Can't fault them, why pay full price when a discount might be available. If they are serious about acquiring the guy, then they may at least make an offer worth countering. If they are bargain hunting, then they may just throw stuff at the wall to see what might stick. Even if they would give up a 2nd round pick for a guy you put up on a trade block, why would they start there when they could open up with a 4th (or even a 5th) if it gets you to counter with a 3rd. They still come out a head. And if you take the initial offer, they come out way ahead.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Is Christian McCaffrey still commanding 2 first round picks? Do you think McCaffrey is worth more or less than 1.01 in this year's draft?
joey
Footballguy
I’m personally not looking to acquire him in leagues where I’m contending. (Or any league for that matter). If I owned him, he’s a Sell or Hold Forever.
socrates
Footballguy
I have not seen any trades involving McCaffrey, so this is merely my opinion: IMO McCaffrey is worth an early to mid-round 2022 first if you are a contender. In Dynasty, I would rank Breece Hall ahead of McCaffrey. Beyond that, I suppose it would depend on my team. If I am not in win-now mode, I would rank Walker and the top 3-4 WRs ahead of McCaffrey, based on projected longevity. Christian McCaffrey will only be 26 this season. When he is on the field, he is still one of the premiere backs in the NFL. However, his injury history is cause for concern. IMO, he projects as a RB1 for the foreseeable future (next 3 seasons), so I would not be in a hurry to trade McCaffrey away, and I doubt you can fetch multiple first round picks in a typical dynasty league given his recent rash of injuries.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In the In-season dynasty topic he just recently commanded 3 (2022 1.12, 2023 late, 2024 late) plus a couple scraps.
I imagine if the picks were earlier 2 would have been sufficient.
It is debatable whether or not he is worth that, but he is apparently still commanding it.
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I prefer to buy players with less mileage myself but depending where those picks it's in range of his value for sure and yes there are a good amount of people who would probably prefer him over the 1.1.
Drezden said:
Almost a year ago to the day I gave up Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.04; Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick (ended up as 1.11) for AJB. Even after an injured 2022 season I'm still ok with this move.
That said, if I had a time machine, Javonte Williams and a 1st this year sounds pretty nice.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
I'm a contender, but I am always looking to get younger. That mentality is a slippery slope, because I am not sure the right time to sell. As a Julio Jones owner, I know the wrong time to sell though
The injury issues are the only thing hampering him and I truly believe McCaffrey is one of those players that would benefit from a timeshare, which might mean less touches at the goal line but the guy is breaking down before my eyes. 3 years ago, McCaffrey was untradeable because of his production. The asking price would be so egregious you wouldn't even tell owners he was for sale, because there weren't enough picks/players you could add to the deal and now - I am contemplating getting out from underneath him with the chance of a healthy CMC ruining me for the next couple years.
In win now mode, but hoping to get 2 firsts toward a rebuild. I have done a pretty good job staying ahead of the curve but am also finding Breece Hall is ranked higher than Christian McCaffrey and for that price... I probably should go down with the ship?
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Picked up CMC right after the injury for two late '22 1sts that turned into 1.10 & 1.11 (1QB league), plus Z Moss and I have no buyer's remorse at this point. I view the late 1st of this draft as a good spot to stash quality WR prospects, but my team was set at WR. I'm definitely open to flipping him if he has a vintage 26 point performance early, but will gladly accept a healthy CMC on a reduced workload.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
zaner75 said:
I'm fine with it existing, but yes, it's an underwhelming feature. MFL version is decent. I like getting the email when somebody updates it. At this time of year, it's good to know who's active enough to do that. If that's the only advanced notice I'm going to receive that somebody is about to move one of their stud players, then this is a lot better than nothing (which happens far too frequently for my liking). The comment box is appreciated. This allows somebody to write something along the lines of, "trying to deal a RB for WR help", instead of just listing half their roster.
I think the problem is that if you're doing fantasy right, just about every guy should be available on the "trading block" for the right price. In the real world, I associate a trading block more with somebody who has to go because they're not fitting in with the team, a contract situation, or playing time / roster imbalance.
I will generally list my star players that I view as having a consensus value that's very healthy, or as high as it's going to be. So I'm currently listing guys like Kelce and D. Henry. By listing them, I view it as I'm clearly not giving them away, I'm clearly not getting a king's ransom given their age, but I will listen. Conversely, I'm not going to list a guy like Mahomes right now, who's value took what I perceive as a temporary hit that's a lot worse than the long term hit, and is only going to attract owners trying to scoop him up at the price of the 5th best QB. Likewise, generally not going to list guys that I like, that I view as having untapped upside (Goedert) or coming off of a disappointing season (Hockenson). I'm not going to list guys that nobody is paying for right now, with value that can only go up from here (Golladay).
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Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Current scenario I have in one of my leagues is interesting in how to deal with the draft. I have a really solid championship level team but I am weak at QB. A GM dropped Brady at the end of last season.
Where would you look to pick up Brady in the rookie/FA draft? I have the 1.11 and am seriously considering taking him there. Am I crazy?
Where would you look to pick up Brady in the rookie/FA draft? I have the 1.11 and am seriously considering taking him there. Am I crazy?
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I would assume this is 1QB, but if they're crazy enough to make that drop in 1QB, maybe they're crazy enough to do it in SF. I'm going to assume 1 QB, and although he's very worthy of consideration at 1.11 and might even go before that, I don't think I could give up my shiny new toy, even if that toy could very well bust.
With that said, I don't know how likely it is that Dotson/Pickens/Moore/Watson are going to make more of an impact than Brady in 2022. Is it a progressive league with a big jackpot? Are you objectively better than all of the other top teams and this just puts you completely over the top? Is it a dynasty league that could conceivably fold within three years? Do you just really like Tom Brady? Are you not that excited about the aforementioned WR group? Did you shop the 1.11 around at the height of draft buzz and nobody offered a better QB option than Tom Brady? If the answer to any of these questions was yes, well then.... you should draft the *@!# out of Tom Brady.
joey
Footballguy
what other draft picks do you have? Is the 2.11 next or anything before that? If 2.11 and you’re truly that close to a Chip, then I’d do it, but I’m very Win Now but admittedly play FFPC format of only 16 Keepers. Not sure if your league is a deep keeper or not.
I have a similar dilemma in an FFPC 1QB, TE Premium FFPC league where I have the 1.8, 2.8, etc and someone dropped Okwuegbunam TE DEN earlier in the off-season (example #4073 of why you NEVER a cut any players before the last moment drop deadline!!!) and I’m considering him at 1.8 but will much more likely take BPA rookie there and then try to trade up from 2.8 to an earlier 2nd rounder to grab him (my only other TE is Andrews and I want another starting TE for the TE premium, 2 flex position format). Thoughts?
rockaction
Footballguy
This is something you can only learn from playing. Usually you hear that rookie picks only increase in value until your league's draft day. But I'm now looking at concrete players and not liking my second-round picks that much anymore. Selling at the height of draft buzz might have been the best idea. Now we're starting to see all the disinformation coming out of the NFL camps to tamp down how high a player will go in the draft. It seems like there's a draft buzz --------- lull --------- post-draft buzz period. Maybe my picks will be more useful because of their fungible nature once the post-draft buzz period starts.
One can hope.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Thanks for the replies. This is a very standard 1QB league, $125 entry and can be very difficult to trade in (you may have seen my whiny posts about this previously). Being a Raider fan and the tuck rule game referenced at least twice a year, I have no real love for Brady other than if he wins me some $$$.
The team is definitely built for a chip with QB being my weakness. I’ll let the draft play out and see what happens but wanted a temp check to see if I was out to lunch to even consider trading the 1.11.
The team is definitely built for a chip with QB being my weakness. I’ll let the draft play out and see what happens but wanted a temp check to see if I was out to lunch to even consider trading the 1.11.
As one of the other posters mentioned I would shop that 1.11 to see what other QB's you could get with that pick in trade. If you don't get any better options I would have no problem taking Brady with that pick since it is a spot of weakness for you.
The pick itself is a dart throw. Even though someone in that range will outperform their draft slot and be a dynasty asset you really don't know who that will be. Based on your roster ("solid championship level team weak at QB") you are best suited with the known immediate help in Brady.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Missed that suggestion previously. Good idea for sure, although this is one of those leagues that is very difficult to deal in - 1/3 don’t respond to offers, 1/3 just reject without comment and 1/3 like to deal and the back and forth that comes with trading. Options become limited when you only have 3-4 GMs to work trades with.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
With this in mind, and from what you've said about the "one qb from a chip" you probably have to draft Brady. There's no other qb out there with similar upside for this year.
Yes, in the long term it's not a good strategy, but I'm of the opinion that windows are open for a short time and you've got to be aggressive in pursuing them.
Tau837
Footballguy
Any opinions on Marquez Valdes-Scantling in KC?
I was a bit surprised that he got a 3 year, $30M contract worth up to $36M. He can be released after 1 or 2 seasons without significant impact, so maybe better to look at it as a 1 year deal for $8.5M with a team option second year for $7M.
Non-RB targets for KC in 2021:
MVS had 123/2153/13 on 247 targets in his Green Bay career. Obviously, that was with prime Aaron Rodgers, but now he has prime Mahomes. Scaling his GB performance to 100 targets, that would be about 50/872/5. I guess that isn't all that exciting, although that would have been top 40 in total points (PPR) last season.
Anyone have a different take?
I was a bit surprised that he got a 3 year, $30M contract worth up to $36M. He can be released after 1 or 2 seasons without significant impact, so maybe better to look at it as a 1 year deal for $8.5M with a team option second year for $7M.
Non-RB targets for KC in 2021:
- WR Hill - 159
- TE Kelce - 134
- WR Hardman - 83
- WR Pringle - 60
- WR Robinson - 41
- WR Gordon - 14
- TE Bell - 13
- TE Gray - 10
- WR Fortson - 5
- WR Kemp - 5
MVS had 123/2153/13 on 247 targets in his Green Bay career. Obviously, that was with prime Aaron Rodgers, but now he has prime Mahomes. Scaling his GB performance to 100 targets, that would be about 50/872/5. I guess that isn't all that exciting, although that would have been top 40 in total points (PPR) last season.
Anyone have a different take?
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Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Any projections need to include targets distributed to a fairly high end rookie as well. Seems almost impossible they won't take someone.
260 targets between Juju, MVS and said rookie. Probably looks more like 100 to Juju, and 80 a piece for MVS and whoever that guy is.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
I like the thought of having a #2 WR on a team has prolific as the Chiefs, but when I look at the Chiefs past WR's - nothing impresses me about anyone other than Kelce or Tyreek Hill (gone). I would rather take JuJu, but his stock has raised incredibly. If MVS hadn't been non-existent in GB, it might give me some hope but - he could never gain Rodgers' targets over Adams and I don't see any reason to think he will do differently in KC.
Of course, if the price is right - I would maybe take a shot at him, but I don't see the price being right either.
Tau837
Footballguy
Good point on a likely rookie, but is it a given that Juju will be ahead of MVS in the pecking order?
Juju signed an unusual contract with a lot of incentives.
- $2.49M guaranteed
- Incentives with max values shown (lesser incentives at lower thresholds are available for many of these):
$400K in roster/workout bonus in 2022
- Play in all 17 games ($30K per game = $510K)
- Play 65% of the offensive snaps ($1.5M)
- Have 65+ receptions ($1.5M)
- Have 900+ receiving yards ($1.5M)
- Make the Pro Bowl ($1M)
- Play at least 50% of the offensive snaps for KC in both the AFFCG ($500K) and the Super Bowl ($500K)
That is a max value of $9.9M. He will probably earn some of those incentives, but not all. It seems likely that he will earn less in 2022 than MVS will.
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Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
I just think, given the nature of the roles they play, Juju will get more targets. He's been in the league 1 year longer, missed a lot of time and still has nearly 3 times more receptions than MVS.Just Win Baby said:
MVS is almost exclusively a deep threat. They tend to get fewer targets. MVS has never had more than 40 receptions in a season.
Penguin
Footballguy
I moved him for 1.01 and what looks like it will be a mid to early 2023 2nd about a month ago
dipandglide
Footballguy
A couple recent trades
16 teams, superflex, start two TE, PPR (TE premium)
#1
Gave: 1.07, Brandon Aiyuk
Got: Dobbins, Davis Mills
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#2 (same league setup)
Gave: 1.10, 2.10, Aiyuk
Got: CEH, JuJu, Logan Thomas, D. Smythe, 3.16
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I'm clearly not as high on Aiyuk as consensus and want out. I like deal #1 slightly more than #2 although the latter has more upside. Thoughts?
16 teams, superflex, start two TE, PPR (TE premium)
#1
Gave: 1.07, Brandon Aiyuk
Got: Dobbins, Davis Mills
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#2 (same league setup)
Gave: 1.10, 2.10, Aiyuk
Got: CEH, JuJu, Logan Thomas, D. Smythe, 3.16
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I'm clearly not as high on Aiyuk as consensus and want out. I like deal #1 slightly more than #2 although the latter has more upside. Thoughts?
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
dipandglide
Footballguy
You think 1.10, 2.10 (#26) are worth more than all those players? Interesting.
Aiyuk, JuJu, CEH are polarizing. I'm higher on the later two. Also, most probably don't even know who Smythe is. Guys like Thomas and Smythe have a lot of value in this set up (best ball. I forgot to include that).
dipandglide
Footballguy
I prefer Dillon in bestball leagues. He's better than the Mattison types but ain't going to win you weeks unless Jones is hurt. Mattison is the same a la Cook. I prefer Mattison > Dillon at each's price point.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Hey Dynastyguys, please vote in my poll about preferred dynasty format:
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joey
Footballguy
I’m interested to see people's thoughts on this…
In one of my FFPC leagues, the guy with the 1.1 (and run away favorite to win it all again this year) put his 1.1 pick on the block. I have 3 2023 picks and I know most of this board believe the 2023 draft will be great, but I’m wonder what folks think of a likely mid-2023 1st vs the known quantity of the 1.1 this year.
In one of my FFPC leagues, the guy with the 1.1 (and run away favorite to win it all again this year) put his 1.1 pick on the block. I have 3 2023 picks and I know most of this board believe the 2023 draft will be great, but I’m wonder what folks think of a likely mid-2023 1st vs the known quantity of the 1.1 this year.
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wgoldsph
Footballguy
The common consensus is that the no1 from this year is as good as a mid-1st next year, so I feel like it would be equal on that measure, but I don't know if I would ever trade the 1.01 for a single pick next year no matter the disparity in talent between the drafts.
joey
Footballguy
Yeah. Fair enough. I just don’t know if this other owner (who loves to hoard draft picks) is really preferring 2023 picks. I might try to throw in a mid 3rd or something and see. Thanks for the reply.
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