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Start 1 or 2 RB? If start 2, I'd be inclined to keep him for the depth. The war rages on in the Mattison thread, but I just don't think his value will dip in season based on him getting the majority of touches. That kind of volume is like what Monty has had the past couple years without much competition. Might be a good keep now and trade in season for a higher 1st.
Start 2-4
He is also coming off one of his worst seasons despite remaining healthy. He has a pending legal issue for which he may be suspended, and he has a spotty history when it comes to injury. And, he’s not young.
Bijan, ETN and Mattison are you only true starting RBs with Monty and AJD stuck in a strong committee. I'd keep Mattison for depth given that you'll need at least 2 for starters, depth and possibly/probably flex play. I feel like a lot of GMs trade away their depth pre and early season only to get bitten in the rear during the late season injury attrition.
Mixon is worth fairly minimal now in MOST cases. I don't think many are expecting him to be a useful starting piece much further beyond this year. Then you have to wait a year to get help from the 2024 1st, and then 2 years for the 2025. All from a team that just improved significantly by trading for one of the top 2 WRs in the entire league, so you're looking at 1.8s and later more than likely.
They also just drafted someone who seems very, very capable to take his place in Chase Brown.
What if the team can flip Mixon for another late first?
I actually like his value this year but he’s not enough to move the needle for JJ or Chase, plain and simple. He’s a RB and he is getting a little older for the position. I also think that Cincy will pay Higgins and, of course, Burrow and I don’t see anyway they will keep Mixon beyond this year. Then more than likely he goes the way of the aging RB and joins a committee for less dough.
I disagree here. If Brown was such a good prospect that landing spot would have skyrocketed him up the boards. Brown is nothing but a depth RB.
Sure, it makes more sense with the RBs you suggested - but those guys are all several tiers above Mixon in dynasty. I also think it would be an outlier to get a late 1st for him right now, despite the trade or 2 we saw go down in here where he returned a ton, but maybe I'm lower on him than most.
That’s why I’m hesitant.
Possible. Being a 5th round pick didn't help. Mixon not getting cut didn't help. But I've seen him go early 2nd, right after Miller/Achane which feels about right. I'm not saying I know if he's going to be of use, but he was a highly productive RB in a power 5 conference that seems to have the eye of the coaching staff with his work ethic and preparedness. It may not take much to take some touches away from Mixon's plodding touches.
I wouldn't be so sure ETN isn't also in a timeshare.
I’m actually quite certain he is in a timeshare.
I took your statement "not on the same level as Bijan/ETN", in conjunction with the statement "Feels like Mattison will likely also be in a timeshare", as being you don't think ETN will be in a timeshare.
ETN is on the right side (higher percentage of touches) of the timeshare where AJD and Monty are not, IMO. Also, if you're that down on Mattison, then you need to smash accept for that 2025 1st. Personally, I think Mattison's is a high RB2 based on volume alone. There's a reason McBride was taken in the 7th round and Ty Chandler got 6 carries last season.
You have assumed incorrectly, sir.
I believe AJD is going to be in a near even split, while Monty should see the between the tackles work, including short yardage / GL.
Sorry for misunderstanding your two statements. I just assumed that one was related to the other.
Again, this was the issue.
Just responded to what I read in the two sentences. You mentioned timeshare with Mattison and not on same level as Bijan and ETN. That looks like you’re saying ETN wouldn’t be in a timeshare. Sorry you don’t see it. You probably should have said not on the same level, even though I believe ETN will be in a timeshare. Anyway, it’s not important enough to continue discussing it.
Apparently it is because here you are, still discussing it.
Please stop announcing everyone you're adding to ignore. It does nothing to add to any conversation. No one wants to read that post in any thread.
I like the value fine and if I felt I wouldn't need Mattison I'd take it. If you're comfortable with Monty/AJD as #3/#4 this season I say go for it.
I feel like I’m comfortable enough with that depth that it would be worth the profit of getting a future first.I like the value fine and if I felt I wouldn't need Mattison I'd take it. If you're comfortable with Monty/AJD as #3/#4 this season I say go for it.
It’s hard to say in single quarterback. I would think because of the cheat code, rushing stats, hurts would be worth at least two first round picks.
I'm pretty low on QB's normally, but I have Hurts, and if I were offered the #3 pick, I'm not sure if I could take it. #2, easy accept. But any single rookie after Bijan and Gibbs would be hard to accept. Partly because it's a huge dropoff. Not much separation from #3 to #12.
You like a lot of late round RBs it seems.
No separation between JSN and Gibbs IMO. I’ve seen one go before the other several times, but I agree most have been duped into Gibbs at 1.02
Wasn’t Bigsby taken in the 3rd round? That’s not late. Yes, I like McBride over Chandler. What round was Chandler taken in?
Not late, but getting late-ish. I think most of the league is in a timeshare now though. I don’t see ETN giving up all that much work though.
Perhaps you are right.
Hasty was used a lot last season, and they went in wanting a Robinson/ETN timeshare until Robinson couldn’t get it done. So I do think ETN will be in a timeshare, and to be fair it’s most likely Tank that would get the other carries.
No shares of ETN and only 1 if Tank, so I don’t really have a horse in the race. Perhaps a half a horse. I agree with what you’re saying, but ETN better be on top of his game or it could turn into a bigger timeshare for Bigsby.
It works both ways. Bigsby first has to worry about beating out Hasty and Johnson, two solid veterans for the backup role.
Well of course there is that, but from what I'm reading that shouldn't be a problem.
To call them outliers would require looking at top fantasy football performances over a certain time frame and then cross referencing that with the amout of opportunity those players had in college and I suppose choosing some sort of threshold for that college opportunity.
On the surface I like the offer but 2 years out is a long time from now.
First, thanks for the thoughtful response.
I would ask for more as you are hurting your ability to compete this season by giving up the depth, that could always be traded later on if you don't need it.
This is dependent upon Mattison doing as expected. If it turns out he is JAG and doesn't impress then his value may go down. There is that risk.
I’m skeptical based on our exchanges. After much back & forth, this is what we landed on as mutually acceptable.
But that isn't exactly an equal comparison. It's not his age 26-27 season right now. So that evaluation needs to include two years of performance. That has value. Obviously if it was 2025 and Mattison was 27 then it is likely an auto accept. But you are also giving up two years of theoretically RB2 value.
Count me on the side for taking trade. I see getting a 1st for Mattison as close to his peak value. Lots of scenarios where his value drops. Let your league mate take the risk of adding a RB in June.
Sure.
