Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (12 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more competitive?

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more

I think u can get more for Jacobs and Chuba and Mason may take over that backfield not only next couple weeks but all year. I hold out for more.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more

I think u can get more for Jacobs and Chuba and Mason may take over that backfield not only next couple weeks but all year. I hold out for more.

Haven’t offered or been offered anything yet - just a twinkle in my eye.

Sounds like you’re a yes on bagging 2025, but no on this particular deal. Would adding a 2026 2nd do it? 2x 2026 2nds?

Value-wise it charts out pretty evenly as-is.
Mason = Tuten
Jacobs = 1st
Chuba = 1st
Andrews = Allgeier

But I’m not against being greedy. lol

 

[wgoldsph]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more

I think u can get more for Jacobs and Chuba and Mason may take over that backfield not only next couple weeks but all year. I hold out for more.

Haven’t offered or been offered anything yet - just a twinkle in my eye.

Sounds like you’re a yes on bagging 2025, but no on this particular deal. Would adding a 2026 2nd do it? 2x 2026 2nds?

Value-wise it charts out pretty evenly as-is.
Mason = Tuten
Jacobs = 1st
Chuba = 1st
Andrews = Allgeier

But I’m not against being greedy. lol

I feel like you could just get more by splitting those guys up across multiple trades. Tuten might be something but Allgeier only has value if Bijan goes down.

I guess I feel more like you should be selling higher on Mason, and get a 1+ for Jacobs and Andrews. Should get you around two firsts and a young backup with upside if your values are correct. Leaves you with Chubba to turn into whatever or ride out.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more

I think u can get more for Jacobs and Chuba and Mason may take over that backfield not only next couple weeks but all year. I hold out for more.

Haven’t offered or been offered anything yet - just a twinkle in my eye.

Sounds like you’re a yes on bagging 2025, but no on this particular deal. Would adding a 2026 2nd do it? 2x 2026 2nds?

Value-wise it charts out pretty evenly as-is.
Mason = Tuten
Jacobs = 1st
Chuba = 1st
Andrews = Allgeier

But I’m not against being greedy. lol

I feel like you could just get more by splitting those guys up across multiple trades. Tuten might be something but Allgeier only has value if Bijan goes down.

I guess I feel more like you should be selling higher on Mason, and get a 1+ for Jacobs and Andrews. Should get you around two firsts and a young backup with upside if your values are correct. Leaves you with Chubba to turn into whatever or ride out.

Allgeier had 10 carries week one and 14 week two (plus a TD and a catch). I would think he stays involved every week with some weeks being flex worthy (although those will be tough to gauge). He is the perfect dynasty hold as he can get you some potential points in a pinch, an RB1 if Bijan gets dinged, and has the chance to lead role next year as a FA.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He is the perfect dynasty hold as he can get you some potential points in a pinch, an RB1 if Bijan gets dinged, and has the chance to lead role next year as a FA.

Yeah, makes him a great target, too since he’s got some present day value, but not enough to trust as a set it and forget it for redraft lineups.

I’m still on the fence but I’m very tempted to make that offer and see what happens.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.

 

[joey]

Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.

Pass. But I love Jacobs

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Pass. But I love Jacobs

What if I add Theo Johnson and he adds Allgeier? Still a pass?

 

[joey]

Pass. But I love Jacobs

What if I add Theo Johnson and he adds Allgeier? Still a pass?

Is your team not win now at all?

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Pass. But I love Jacobs

What if I add Theo Johnson and he adds Allgeier? Still a pass?

Is your team not win now at all?

What about trading Jacobs for Egbuka straight up?

 

[wgoldsph]

Start-up going south in a hurry - your thoughts on a blockbuster re-roll?

12-team SF PPR TEP
solid young core, but lost Reed (collarbone), Burrow (toe), Garret Wilson (QB sucks), and have slow starts by BTJ & others, plus I don’t get Rice back for 4 more weeks, so im 0-2.

A team hurting at RB but otherwise pretty solid hmu for a possible trade. Thinking about offering
Jacobs, Mason, Chuba, & Andrews
For
Tuten, Allgeier, 2026 1st, 2027 1st

I have all of my 2026 & 2027 picks. That said, 1/2 the league makes the playoffs, so it’s temping to hold and hope for a turnaround. Except then I have 3 RBs who will be 27, 27, & 28 next year.

What would you do: Offer the blockbuster and soft tank for 1.01, or try to sell picks for players to get more

I think u can get more for Jacobs and Chuba and Mason may take over that backfield not only next couple weeks but all year. I hold out for more.

Haven’t offered or been offered anything yet - just a twinkle in my eye.

Sounds like you’re a yes on bagging 2025, but no on this particular deal. Would adding a 2026 2nd do it? 2x 2026 2nds?

Value-wise it charts out pretty evenly as-is.
Mason = Tuten
Jacobs = 1st
Chuba = 1st
Andrews = Allgeier

But I’m not against being greedy. lol

I feel like you could just get more by splitting those guys up across multiple trades. Tuten might be something but Allgeier only has value if Bijan goes down.

I guess I feel more like you should be selling higher on Mason, and get a 1+ for Jacobs and Andrews. Should get you around two firsts and a young backup with upside if your values are correct. Leaves you with Chubba to turn into whatever or ride out.

Allgeier had 10 carries week one and 14 week two (plus a TD and a catch). I would think he stays involved every week with some weeks being flex worthy (although those will be tough to gauge). He is the perfect dynasty hold as he can get you some potential points in a pinch, an RB1 if Bijan gets dinged, and has the chance to lead role next year as a FA.

Genuinely curious, how many backs go from a team's number two during their rookie contract to go on and switch teams and become starters?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Pass. But I love Jacobs

What if I add Theo Johnson and he adds Allgeier? Still a pass?

Is your team not win now at all?

Started 0-2, lost Burrow.

It’s a startup league so I do have some depth - but this probably isn’t my year in that league.

I guess it boils down to:
1. Is Egbuka worth Jacobs?
2. If so, then it’s Mason + Theo for Allgeier+Tuten.

So the deciding factor is probably what we think Tuten & Allgeier’s future value is. That’s where I’m a little stuck. Will 1 or both be starting next year? Or at least “start-able” in FF? I would like to have an Egbuka share.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Genuinely curious, how many backs go from a team's number two during their rookie contract to go on and switch teams and become starters?

Probably also have to factor into that equation that Allgeier was a competent starter before they drafted Bijan.

Guys like JaWill & Swift come to mind?

 

[wgoldsph]

Genuinely curious, how many backs go from a team's number two during their rookie contract to go on and switch teams and become starters?

Probably also have to factor into that equation that Allgeier was a competent starter before they drafted Bijan.

You're right, forgot about his rookie year.

 

[Ray Barboni]

How are you guys feeling about Marshon Lloyd?

Phil Mafah?

I have some strange optimism for both, but maybe I’ve got “I drafted them” blinders on?

 

[EWV1]

Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.

I like all players involved. I would take this. Can't you then explore trading Wilson or Rice for a RB if necessary. I might be too high on Tuten.
I would definitely do Jacobs for Egbuka straight up if you can as was suggested.

 

[wgoldsph]

How are you guys feeling about Marshon Lloyd?

Phil Mafah?

I have some strange optimism for both, but maybe I’ve got “I drafted them” blinders on?

Mafah was snuck onto the roster by IRing him, so I feel like Dallas liked him enough to not chance losing him on the practice squad.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.

Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.

Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.

Yeah, I slept on it and I’m leaning against it.

If I had confidence that Tuten and/or Allgeier would be FF relevant next year I’d probably do it. I usually prefer building around WRs, and I do think the Jacobs for Egbuka part is pretty close.

 

[TartanLion]

Guy is trying to shed points and I’m competing. I tried for Kraft but he’s not budging …

12 team SF TE premium

I give Jayden Reed and Jalen Coker

For

Devonta Smith and Tank Bigsby

Hate giving up Coker but Devonta would be a really solid piece into my starting lineup

It’s not done just trying to get a feel for Devonta on here

 

[Birdie048]

OKAY Fellow Dynasty Shark Pool board posters ...
Topic = When do you throw in the towel for the season and work for next year?

12 Team (Going SF 2026) 0.5 PPR TE+ 1QB/1-3RB/2-5WR/1-3TE PK & Def
I made the playoffs in 2024 and was #2 in Total Points scored
Starting 0-3 and I have quality depth but I am not doing well on starting lineup selection (74% Efficiency).
Power Rank has me #11 of 12
6 Team Make Playoffs (3 Div winners, Next Best Record, #6 is Highest Total Points scored of remaining)

Roster:
QB: TLaw, DMaye
RB: KWIII/Charbs, Achane, Kamara/KMiller, JMason/AJones, RWhite, JBlue
WR: JJennings, Kupp, McLaurin, Odunze, JNoel, JReed, CRidley, Shakir, Thorton
TE: Njoku, NGray, TFerguson, Otton

Offering up Aging Assets for youth/picks is the age old adage for development. I expect very limited interest (if any) in Kupp, McLaurin or Ridley

Is this just an issue of too much depth and not enough stud power?
Maybe consolidate RB+WR for a Top tier talent?

Obvious "Sell High" values: Min RB Jordan Mason, KC WR Tyquan Thornton

WHAT SAY Shark Pool? Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?
Looking for suggestions, advice or feedback.
I am not enjoying it this season ...

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?

Hard to realistically say what your chances of competing are without knowing how the other talent in the league is concentrated. You don't have a particularly special roster though, at least in my eyes, especially in a 12 teamer. At 0-3 I'd say just go for it, get in early while a few teams are still dreaming. If you wait a few weeks a couple more losses might discourage potential buying teams from parting with picks for players that won't change their fate. If there hasn't already been a run on future draft picks and they aren't concentrated amongst a few teams even better.

With the exception of Rome Odunze I would be looking to sell every player on your roster if you should decide to do so though. Sell it all, don't just let the old guys go, get it all gone. Package them up and shift them in batches if you have to. No point keeping those Seahawks RB's or Achane. They might be finished when your window comes back around. It'll be at least 2 or 3 years till you can compete again.

It's a lot of fun selling everyone I think.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

OKAY Fellow Dynasty Shark Pool board posters ...
Topic = When do you throw in the towel for the season and work for next year?

12 Team (Going SF 2026) 0.5 PPR TE+ 1QB/1-3RB/2-5WR/1-3TE PK & Def
I made the playoffs in 2024 and was #2 in Total Points scored
Starting 0-3 and I have quality depth but I am not doing well on starting lineup selection (74% Efficiency).
Power Rank has me #11 of 12
6 Team Make Playoffs (3 Div winners, Next Best Record, #6 is Highest Total Points scored of remaining)

Roster:
QB: TLaw, DMaye
RB: KWIII/Charbs, Achane, Kamara/KMiller, JMason/AJones, RWhite, JBlue
WR: JJennings, Kupp, McLaurin, Odunze, JNoel, JReed, CRidley, Shakir, Thorton
TE: Njoku, NGray, TFerguson, Otton

Offering up Aging Assets for youth/picks is the age old adage for development. I expect very limited interest (if any) in Kupp, McLaurin or Ridley

Is this just an issue of too much depth and not enough stud power?
Maybe consolidate RB+WR for a Top tier talent?

Obvious "Sell High" values: Min RB Jordan Mason, KC WR Tyquan Thornton

WHAT SAY Shark Pool? Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?
Looking for suggestions, advice or feedback.
I am not enjoying it this season ...

I don't like your QB situation right now, nor as you move into SF. In a strictly 1QB league, you have two lower half QBs. That should NEVER happen. I'm guessing you guys have been planning the move to SF for a while. IMO, Trevor Lawrence is a dead man walking in JAX. I suspect he will be a prime candidate for replacement after 26. Now, he will absolutely get a 2nd shot and may go all Baker Mayfield, but I have my doubts.

Your RB room is solid with a good mix of younger talent and vets.

Your WR room, aside from Odunze is aging and not very good. I'm assuming it's a start 3 WR league and you've mistyped the 2-5 starter requirement. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your TE room is fine assuming you aren't in a TEP league.

A weekly projected starting lineup of:

Maye/TLaw (matchup play)
KWIII, Achane
McLaurin, Odunze, Shakir
Njoku
Kupp, Kamara
PK
DEF

Personally, I would reboot this team ASAP. I tend to attack a SF reboot/rebuild in the following order: QB, WR, TE, RB. In other words, sure up your QB situation running into superflex next year FIRST. Then attack the positions that tend to have longevity (WR, TE), then start building a RB room. As for possibilities, I'd consider moving TLaw + an asset to upgrade at QB first. I'm not high on Maye (at all), but I think it's worth giving him more time to progress on your roster. That asset could be a Kamara or Achane or even KWIII. Once you've secured a young, talented QB to pair with Maye, I'd start looking at adding another good, young WR. Pair McLaurin/Kupp/Jennings with another asset. TE is an interesting spot this season. Some very good, young talent came through in the draft. If you can get a guy like Fannin for cheap, it's probably worth it. You don't have to go full rebuild all at once, unless you're really making an effort to tank for one of the 2026 QBs and I'm not convinced your roster needs that.

Good luck on the roster decisions! Note: I went full on rebuild in a league last year after week 4 and absolutely regretted it. The players who were struggling (I'm looking at you Mark Andrews) suddenly came to life and I'm 100% positive I could have made it to the playoffs. So, honestly, what do I know??

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I give Jayden Reed and Jalen Coker

For

Devonta Smith and Tank Bigsby

Hate giving up Coker but Devonta would be a really solid piece into my starting lineup

It’s not done just trying to get a feel for Devonta on here

I’m skeptical someone would give up Smith for that.

He’s the most valuable piece, and you’re offering him Coker and a boat anchor since Reed won’t be back until like, November. And it’s not like Reed has established a track record of good health. Is Coker valuable?

I have this deal at a ~35% advantage for the Smith side. Honestly don’t think you’re close.

 

[Birdie048]

OKAY Fellow Dynasty Shark Pool board posters ...
Topic = When do you throw in the towel for the season and work for next year?

12 Team (Going SF 2026) 0.5 PPR TE+ 1QB/1-3RB/2-5WR/1-3TE PK & Def
I made the playoffs in 2024 and was #2 in Total Points scored
Starting 0-3 and I have quality depth but I am not doing well on starting lineup selection (74% Efficiency).
Power Rank has me #11 of 12
6 Team Make Playoffs (3 Div winners, Next Best Record, #6 is Highest Total Points scored of remaining)

Your RB room is solid with a good mix of younger talent and vets.

Your WR room, aside from Odunze is aging and not very good. I'm assuming it's a start 3 WR league and you've mistyped the 2-5 starter requirement. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your TE room is fine assuming you aren't in a TEP league.


Personally, I would reboot this team ASAP. I tend to attack a SF reboot/rebuild in the following order: QB, WR, TE, RB. In other words, sure up your QB situation running into superflex next year FIRST. Then attack the positions that tend to have longevity (WR, TE), then start building a RB room. As for possibilities, I'd consider moving TLaw + an asset to upgrade at QB first. I'm not high on Maye (at all), but I think it's worth giving him more time to progress on your roster. That asset could be a Kamara or Achane or even KWIII. Once you've secured a young, talented QB to pair with Maye, I'd start looking at adding another good, young WR. Pair McLaurin/Kupp/Jennings with another asset. TE is an interesting spot this season. Some very good, young talent came through in the draft. If you can get a guy like Fannin for cheap, it's probably worth it. You don't have to go full rebuild all at once, unless you're really making an effort to tank for one of the 2026 QBs and I'm not convinced your roster needs that.

Good luck on the roster decisions! Note: I went full on rebuild in a league last year after week 4 and absolutely regretted it. The players who were struggling (I'm looking at you Mark Andrews) suddenly came to life and I'm 100% positive I could have made it to the playoffs. So, honestly, what do I know?? Thanks for the Feedback and insight.

THANKS FROR THE FEEDBACK!!

Odunze is not likley to be traded unless I get a SIGNIFICANT OVERPAY.
Achane & Maye are players I would like to hold for now, but again, everybody has a price!

1) Yes, 2-5 WR ... Minimum start 2 but we have 3 Flex in starting lineup (1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE Plus 3 Flex). But Max 3 RB and Max 3 TE so it is weird lineup.
2) Yes, 0.5 PPR but 1.0 PPR TE (TE+)

I already have 2 x 1sts for 2026 (1 likely very early and 1 late, but not my own).

Deciding to be the 1st to jump into the "Rebuild Pool" is tough. I have struggled with the idea of "quality depth" and consistently make poor starting lineup decisions (<80% lifetime achiever)

 

[Birdie048]

Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?

Hard to realistically say what your chances of competing are without knowing how the other talent in the league is concentrated. You don't have a particularly special roster though, at least in my eyes, especially in a 12 teamer. At 0-3 I'd say just go for it, get in early while a few teams are still dreaming. If you wait a few weeks a couple more losses might discourage potential buying teams from parting with picks for players that won't change their fate. If there hasn't already been a run on future draft picks and they aren't concentrated amongst a few teams even better.

With the exception of Rome Odunze I would be looking to sell every player on your roster if you should decide to do so though. Sell it all, don't just let the old guys go, get it all gone. Package them up and shift them in batches if you have to. No point keeping those Seahawks RB's or Achane. They might be finished when your window comes back around. It'll be at least 2 or 3 years till you can compete again.

It's a lot of fun selling everyone I think.

Thanks!

Jump into the Rebuild Pool 1st is a tough decision.
Yeah, decent WR3-4 options, but no WR1 caliber talent (outside Odunze).

Achane, Walker & Charbs are all young. I think if I can get rid of the other lower tier players in package deals, they are worth holding.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Not sure it's really a proper rebuild if you're looking to keep hold of most of your running backs tbh.

What you're actually saying is that you want to get rid of some of your not so good players who aren't really producing for you. Not sure there's going to be that many buyers outside of the Mason/Jones pair and even then I'm not sure you'd get more than a not so great 1st for the pair.

Tear it down properly if you're going to do it. Only dipping one foot in just means you'll have a wishy washy nothingy team again next year and be in the same sort of predicament again, especially if you're going Superflex. That roster will be even less competitive at that point I think.

 

[Birdie048]

Tear it down properly if you're going to do it. Only dipping one foot in just means you'll have a wishy washy nothingy team again next year and be in the same sort of predicament again, especially if you're going Superflex. That roster will be even less competitive at that point I think.

Valid point. I have a few "offers" out to test the waters ... offering Mason/Shakir to gauge interest

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Also, if you don't have your own 2026 1st round pick, try and get it back before you telegraph that you are going to tear your team apart to whoever currently has it.

 

[Big Nate]

OKAY Fellow Dynasty Shark Pool board posters ...
Topic = When do you throw in the towel for the season and work for next year?

12 Team (Going SF 2026) 0.5 PPR TE+ 1QB/1-3RB/2-5WR/1-3TE PK & Def
I made the playoffs in 2024 and was #2 in Total Points scored
Starting 0-3 and I have quality depth but I am not doing well on starting lineup selection (74% Efficiency).
Power Rank has me #11 of 12
6 Team Make Playoffs (3 Div winners, Next Best Record, #6 is Highest Total Points scored of remaining)

Roster:
QB: TLaw, DMaye
RB: KWIII/Charbs, Achane, Kamara/KMiller, JMason/AJones, RWhite, JBlue
WR: JJennings, Kupp, McLaurin, Odunze, JNoel, JReed, CRidley, Shakir, Thorton
TE: Njoku, NGray, TFerguson, Otton

Offering up Aging Assets for youth/picks is the age old adage for development. I expect very limited interest (if any) in Kupp, McLaurin or Ridley

Is this just an issue of too much depth and not enough stud power?
Maybe consolidate RB+WR for a Top tier talent?

Obvious "Sell High" values: Min RB Jordan Mason, KC WR Tyquan Thornton

WHAT SAY Shark Pool? Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?
Looking for suggestions, advice or feedback.
I am not enjoying it this season ...

You have good RBs which I would obviously hold if you are making a run. TFerg at TE has been doing great and getting lots of targets. Upgrading at WR wouldn't be a bad idea though. Not sure if other teams are in the same boat (slow start) or been hit with injuries that you could trade with. It might just be too early and now with so many injuries teams might be re-evaluating. Kupp, McLauren and Ridley are obviously underperforming right now. Hard to sell them to get anything so obviously its a hold. But with so many injuries all it takes is a couple good weeks and you should be able to get some value - or use them. McLauren is slow to start due to his hold out and now he's banged up. Ridley playing with a rookie QB so that is tough. Kupp with a new team but I would think better days ahead. Hopefully they start producing and you can either use them or sell them. McLauren isn't a bad hold for next year either if you don't feel you are getting good value.

I did notice that next year you are going SF. If you do start the rebuild it would be good to start looking for a third QB. If you are rebuilding hopefully you could move Kupp and Ridley after a few good games to a team needing WR depth.

Also, as you mention, Mason and Thornton could be decent values if you can get the right buyer. Mason looking really good and he might just take over. I was a bit skeptical with a takeover but now that Jones is on IR with a hammy that could be a tough one to come back this year for a 30yr old RB. Massive sell high opportunity if you do rebuild.

Getting a head on a rebuild is always a good idea and trading ends up being half the fun (if you aren't winning). No rush though as you don't want to sell guys too cheap and you might need to wait for some of the older players to come around (hopefully).

 

[Big Nate]

Too early or get infront of all the other rebuilders?

Hard to realistically say what your chances of competing are without knowing how the other talent in the league is concentrated. You don't have a particularly special roster though, at least in my eyes, especially in a 12 teamer. At 0-3 I'd say just go for it, get in early while a few teams are still dreaming. If you wait a few weeks a couple more losses might discourage potential buying teams from parting with picks for players that won't change their fate. If there hasn't already been a run on future draft picks and they aren't concentrated amongst a few teams even better.

With the exception of Rome Odunze I would be looking to sell every player on your roster if you should decide to do so though. Sell it all, don't just let the old guys go, get it all gone. Package them up and shift them in batches if you have to. No point keeping those Seahawks RB's or Achane. They might be finished when your window comes back around. It'll be at least 2 or 3 years till you can compete again.

It's a lot of fun selling everyone I think.

I wouldn't sell every personally. KWIII and Charbs are still only 24, and Achane is young. QBs are young (under 26). Jreed is injured so no one is taking him and might as well hold and obviously hold Odunze.

In TEP his TEs are fine to hold - I'm not against shopping them but TFerg and Otton are young enough to hold. Njoku will be a tough sell even though I really still like him. Maybe the Fanning owner can give you something but again I think his value is worth more than what you could get.

Once you do decide to rebuild and sell don't keep any roster cloggers. Start looking at possible QB options on waivers that could be value. Collect a few back-up RBs that if an injury happens you can sell for a 2nd or 3rd if they end up getting a spot start.

I also agree with the comment to get your own 26 first back if you don't have it.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I wouldn't sell every personally. KWIII and Charbs are still only 24, and Achane is young. QBs are young (under 26).

Doesn't matter to me. They are not first or second year running backs, all of them have had injuries already and the selling team is not going to be challenging in a realistic sense in the next couple of seasons. Running backs on teams that aren't competing are dangerous assets, they add no value to the short term goals of the teams they are on and carry a greatly enhanced risk of becoming worthless. If you are rebuilding then you are looking to acquire stable liquid assets like draft picks, running backs are the fundamental opposite of stable and liquid.

Achane is a valuable asset right now, he should be sold by a rebuilding team because said team is looking make themselves a losing team and he does not help them achieve that goal. In two years he might be retired, replaced, much less effective. Two years ago Breece Hall was pretty much the RB1 in dynasty. He might not be top 20 now. Things change too quickly to hold players in the hope you can come back around with them in the future. Draft picks remain constant. You want those if you are tearing your team up.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I wouldn't sell every personally. KWIII and Charbs are still only 24, and Achane is young. QBs are young (under 26).

Doesn't matter to me. They are not first or second year running backs, all of them have had injuries already and the selling team is not going to be challenging in a realistic sense in the next couple of seasons. Running backs on teams that aren't competing are dangerous assets, they add no value to the short term goals of the teams they are on and carry a greatly enhanced risk of becoming worthless. If you are rebuilding then you are looking to acquire stable liquid assets like draft picks, running backs are the fundamental opposite of stable and liquid.

Achane is a valuable asset right now, he should be sold by a rebuilding team because said team is looking make themselves a losing team and he does not help them achieve that goal. In two years he might be retired, replaced, much less effective. Two years ago Breece Hall was pretty much the RB1 in dynasty. He might not be top 20 now. Things change too quickly to hold players in the hope you can come back around with them in the future. Draft picks remain constant. You want those if you are tearing your team up.

Can't emphasize the bolded more. Very well put.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?

 

[Born to Run]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

 

[JoeJoe88]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

A late 1st wouldn’t even be in the ballpark if I were holding Nabers. You’re going to have to come harder than that, torn ACL and all. He’s already shown to be one of the best young players in the league.

 

[Blick]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

Late 1st feels insulting. If I'm looking to move him, I probably wouldn't do it for picks. The picks won't pay off until he's back.

I'd be looking for 2-3 players (one stud) that can help now.

 

[sheerterror]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

I jokingly suggested Harrison to a buddy who is not a Nabers owner and he thought that was insulting.
I think Harrison/Rome/BTj + a 1st could be an enticing package depending other roster. Ladd++?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

I jokingly suggested Harrison to a buddy who is not a Nabers owner and he thought that was insulting.
I think Harrison/Rome/BTj + a 1st could be an enticing package depending other roster. Ladd++?

Are Rome and BTJ still on the same value level? I could stand to offload BTJ for someone who's actually producing.

 

[sheerterror]

So what is Nabors value? An owner in one league is looking for offers. His team is going to be 1-3 and should be rebuilding even before the ACL tear. Is he worth a late1st?

I jokingly suggested Harrison to a buddy who is not a Nabers owner and he thought that was insulting.
I think Harrison/Rome/BTj + a 1st could be an enticing package depending other roster. Ladd++?

Are Rome and BTJ still on the same value level? I could stand to offload BTJ for someone who's actually producing.

In What Have You Done For Me Lately world, probably not. but if we factor in the entire career sample size, It feels like they should be about even at the moment. Idk, maybe I'm still placing too much value on BTJ (non owner).

 

[heckmanm]

Just popped up on KTC - for superflex:

• Bijan Robinson
• Jayden Daniels
• Malik Nabers

Yikes

Edit - as in: Keep, Trade, Cut for these 3

 

[BubbaFridge]

Want to trade Waddle in dynasty.

Even if the Dolphins finally get a new coach, the O line sucks and Tua is one hit away from Waddle getting stuck in the QB wilderness.

What do you all think realistic trade value is for Waddle?

 

[Big Nate]

Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?

Are you contending this year or do you feel like you will keep rebuilding for 1 more year? Also is it half or full PPR? I'd almost want to hold these RBs as you can play them all in the flex. In my start 10 SF half PPR (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex, Flex, Flex, SFlex) I start 5 RBs and I'm happy to do so. RB builds if you have work horse backs are great. I personally would keep all your RBs.

BTJ will have better days - he is in a funk. Addison was solid his first game back but I'm not against trading him if needed. Godwin is the one I would try to move though.

Do you have draft picks to trade? I'd rather do Godwin + a pick to tier up if you really wanted.

If you are still rebuilding you could try to just trade Godwin straight up for a pick/picks to give you more ammo for next year to grab a WR.

 

[Big Nate]

Want to trade Waddle in dynasty.

Even if the Dolphins finally get a new coach, the O line sucks and Tua is one hit away from Waddle getting stuck in the QB wilderness.

What do you all think realistic trade value is for Waddle?

As a Fins fan and Waddle owner I am slightly bias but the bare minimum would be a first. When he is healthy he is great and now Hill is gone. If you are contending I would keep Waddle. If you move him I would want at least a first. Maybe you could squeeze a bit more now if you can convince the buyer he has more opportunity ahead of him.

Waddle is still 26 and likely has 3 more years left before he is "old". Guys like McLaurin, Sutton, Godwin, DJMoore etc still going strong at 28-30.

His value should be going up now that Hill is out (possibly forever off the fins).

 

[IHEARTFF]

show me where I am stupid:
rank WR
1 J Chase
2 J Jefferson

3 A St. Brown
4 C Lamb
5 P Nacua
6 D London
7 R Odunze
8 JSN
9 E Egbuka
10 M Nabers
11 N Collins

12 M Harrison Jr
13 G Wilson
14 B Thomas Jr
15 T Higgins
16 R Rice
17 T McMillan
18 X Worthy
19 G Pickens

20 DK Metcalf
21 Z Flowers
22 C Olave
23 R Pearsall
24 T Hunter
25 L McConkey
26 AJ Brown
27 DJ Moore
28 Devonta Smith
29 J Waddle
30 J Addison
31 Jamo Williams
32 Q Johnston

 

[Gjallarhorn]

show me where I am stupid:
rank WR
1 J Chase
2 J Jefferson

3 A St. Brown
4 C Lamb
5 P Nacua
6 D London
7 R Odunze
8 JSN
9 E Egbuka
10 M Nabers
11 N Collins

12 M Harrison Jr
13 G Wilson
14 B Thomas Jr
15 T Higgins
16 R Rice
17 T McMillan
18 X Worthy
19 G Pickens

20 DK Metcalf
21 Z Flowers
22 C Olave
23 R Pearsall
24 T Hunter
25 L McConkey
26 AJ Brown
27 DJ Moore
28 Devonta Smith
29 J Waddle
30 J Addison
31 Jamo Williams
32 Q Johnston

Puka feels like he should be #3, and in the same tier as the LSU guys.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?

Are you contending this year or do you feel like you will keep rebuilding for 1 more year? Also is it half or full PPR? I'd almost want to hold these RBs as you can play them all in the flex. In my start 10 SF half PPR (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex, Flex, Flex, SFlex) I start 5 RBs and I'm happy to do so. RB builds if you have work horse backs are great. I personally would keep all your RBs.

BTJ will have better days - he is in a funk. Addison was solid his first game back but I'm not against trading him if needed. Godwin is the one I would try to move though.

Do you have draft picks to trade? I'd rather do Godwin + a pick to tier up if you really wanted.

If you are still rebuilding you could try to just trade Godwin straight up for a pick/picks to give you more ammo for next year to grab a WR.

Appreciate the response, @Big Nate !

Half PPR for everyone except TEs, which are full PPR. This team will squeak into the playoffs, but will probably exit early. Obviously a lot can change between now and then, but at the moment, I don't see this team as a strong contender for the 'ship. I'm definitely on board with a wait and see approach. BTJ has been a disappointment and with Addison and Godwin out for the first 3 games, my WR room has felt super weak. Maybe I'll give it a few more weeks to see where these rookies go and then look at trading Godwin.

Again, thanks for the input.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?

Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?

 

[jp81976]

thoughts?

TEAM A gives:
2026 & 2027 First Round picks (could be anywhere from early to late to be honest)
Kirk Cousins

TEAM B gives:
Kenneth Walker
Cam Ward