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Eli Manning to suck in the NFL (1 Viewer)
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CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
Yeah, I heard Eli did some real damage to the Giants last year.
so far this year, he looks better than his brother
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Which isn't saying a lot.Eli = loser
Avery
Footballguy
For a second year player that has started only a handful of games, Eli shows remarkable situational awareness and makes excellent throws and decisions on the field.Now please continue with the regularly scheduled irrational "I hate Eli because he is a crybaby and will therefore suck" ranting.
NYG Endzone
Footballguy
Check Eli's road schedule last year you ####Win on the road?This thread should be locked unless "the little pickle" will quantify what Eli or any QB would have to accomplish in order "not to suck" in the NFL.
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Kevin Ashcraft
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There is more Manning family bashing on this board than of any other player(s)........I think its pointless and immature when people dig on them when there are guys like Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, heck, Travis Henry running around in the NFL. People hate the Mannings for these reasons, that I can tell.They are.......WhiteRichChristians.....the whole Manning family is.ClassyTeam PlayersWow, I wish we all could be like Shawn Taylor, Ricky Williams, Terrell Owens, Keyshawn Johnson, Randy Moss, Ray Lewis, and on and on.....the great people they are and the positive media attention they get, I totally see where the Mannings are "Pigs at the trough", or "Egotistical babies".....yeah they are SO much worse than the aforementioned saints.
middleweightcontender
Footballguy
you can't generalize that because people dislike the mannings that they automatically like those players listed. Well, you can, but it's not the best way to make your point.I like Peyton, don't like Eli. Classify me.
Avery
Footballguy
That's the thing.Many people (not necessarily you) have the train of thought "I don't like Eli (for whatever reason) therefore he does/will suck."
I'm not particularly fond of Owens. But he's a great WR.
Beyond the fact that the Eli hate has become irrational, many can't seperate their personal feelings and the player's skill/portential skill.
BTW, according to ESPN, Archie Manning said someone within the Chargers organization told him, "don't let your son come here."... FWIW.
Warsteinner
Footballguy
Who doesn't look better than his brother this year?
Shrek
Having a great season
I don't know where San Diego's D Line ranks, or where their pass rush ranks, but they weren't putting anything close to pressure on Manning. Any QB that has as much time in the pocket before it collapses as Manning did last night can find at least one receiver open. He had all day. I still wasn't overly impressed. He missed a throw at the goal line to either Toomer or Burress (can't remember which one it was right now), and that ball floated in like a punt- end over end and like a rainbow. All he would have had to do was lead the guy a little more, or even throw a spiral. There were several balls that were nearly intercepted, most notably, the one that was interceoted and returned for a TD only to be called back. I was laughing out loud watching the guy taunt Manning with the ball as he was crossing the goal line, only to yank the ball back at the last second as Manning lunges for it.
Avery
Footballguy
I'm not sure what game you were watching, but Manning constantly moved away from pressure in the pocket to find the "soft spot" to throw from. I don't remeber seeing so many 3rd and long coversions in a game as the Giants had. A combination of Mannings ability and the soft SD defense.Pretend that the name on the QBs jersey was "Smith" or "Jones" and re-evalute.I don't know where San Diego's D Line ranks, or where their pass rush ranks, but they weren't putting anything close to pressure on Manning. Any QB that has as much time in the pocket before it collapses as Manning did last night can find at least one receiver open. He had all day.
I still wasn't overly impressed. He missed a throw at the goal line to either Toomer or Burress (can't remember which one it was right now), and that ball floated in like a punt- end over end and like a rainbow. All he would have had to do was lead the guy a little more, or even throw a spiral. There were several balls that were nearly intercepted, most notably, the one that was interceoted and returned for a TD only to be called back. I was laughing out loud watching the guy taunt Manning with the ball as he was crossing the goal line, only to yank the ball back at the last second as Manning lunges for it.
I bet you'd be more impressed.
Shrek
Having a great season
Yes they did convert a lot of 3rd downs. But again, IMO, it was mostly because of what you aptly called the soft SD defense. It was pathetic really. I didn't see Manning moving away from pressure in the pocket because there wasn't any pressure in the pocket to speak of. Again I will say that any QB who has that much time to throw is going to find someone open. But yes, to convert that many 3rd downs as a team is pretty impressive, regardless of who you are playing. I'm just saying that to me, Manning isn't proving that he's star material yet.I'm not sure what game you were watching, but Manning constantly moved away from pressure in the pocket to find the "soft spot" to throw from. I don't remeber seeing so many 3rd and long coversions in a game as the Giants had. A combination of Mannings ability and the soft SD defense.Pretend that the name on the QBs jersey was "Smith" or "Jones" and re-evalute.I don't know where San Diego's D Line ranks, or where their pass rush ranks, but they weren't putting anything close to pressure on Manning. Any QB that has as much time in the pocket before it collapses as Manning did last night can find at least one receiver open. He had all day.
I still wasn't overly impressed. He missed a throw at the goal line to either Toomer or Burress (can't remember which one it was right now), and that ball floated in like a punt- end over end and like a rainbow. All he would have had to do was lead the guy a little more, or even throw a spiral. There were several balls that were nearly intercepted, most notably, the one that was interceoted and returned for a TD only to be called back. I was laughing out loud watching the guy taunt Manning with the ball as he was crossing the goal line, only to yank the ball back at the last second as Manning lunges for it.
I bet you'd be more impressed.
redman
Footballguy
Eli's going to be very good if not great as a QB. There's no doubt given his obvious game instincts and confidence even at this early stage. Believe me, that doesn't make me happy to say that as a 'Skins fan. Second, this soap opera with the Chargers has been comedic. You saw last night why. If Manning had gone to SD, he'd be sitting on the bench there too. Brees has suddenly transformed into a decisive QB who confidently runs the offense. So SD traded away a backup QB for another backup QB (who still has a lot of trade value) along with multiple draft picks. Oh and BTW, Manning was right not to like the SD franchise. Just ask Antonio Gates.
Warsteinner
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Now lets see if he performs like his brother in the playoffs.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
Eli has definitely arrived. The kid plays with a lot of poise and confidence, and most of all, he's shown he can take a hit and get back up slinging.As an NFC East fan, I had hoped the Giants missed on the kid, but they've definitely done themselves a service by trading for him. 
redman
Footballguy
Eli has definitely arrived. The kid plays with a lot of poise and confidence, and most of all, he's shown he can take a hit and get back up slinging.
As an NFC East fan, I had hoped the Giants missed on the kid, but they've definitely done themselves a service by trading for him.
There's no doubt that he's going to be good for a long time, which makes me like all 'Skins fans 
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MelvinTScupper
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wow, look at all the people jump to his defense now that he finally did something.
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MelvinTScupper
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update?Lets bump this one to the top. Pickles =
ELI MANNING!!!!!!!!!!
Warsteinner
Footballguy
The guy has a point. What's the biggest game any Manning has ever won?You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm
JohnnyU
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Let's see. Ben Roethlisberger sucked in his first 2 playoff games. His team carried him in a win over the Jets, and he got blown out by NE. This was Eli's first playoff game. Peyton has won several big playoff games already (any playoff game is big). How many Super Bowls did Marino win? The jury is still out on how many Peyton will win. Also, and again, Peyton didn't defend Lamar Smith running for 200 on them in the playoffs, or the 200 George put on them. He also didn't play defense in that 41-0 loss to the NYJ, or miss that kick the idiot liquored up kicker missed against the Dolphins.The guy has a point. What's the biggest game any Manning has ever won?You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm
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Warsteinner
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What did Peyton's defense have to do with his ZERO vs the Jets, 3 vs the Pats last year, and 4 ints vs the Pats 2 years ago? Did Tee Martin cast a spell on Spurrier?Let's see. Ben Roethlisberger sucked in his first 2 playoff games. His team carried him in a win over the Jets, and he got blown out by NE. This was Eli's first playoff game. Peyton has won several big playoff games already. How many Super Bowls did Marino win? The jury is still out on how many Peyton will win. Also, and again, Peyton didn't defend Lamar Smith running for 200 on them in the playoffs, or the 200 George put on them. He also didn't play defense in that 41-0 loss to the NYJ, or miss that kick the idiot liquored up kicker missed against the Dolphins.The guy has a point. What's the biggest game any Manning has ever won?You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm
Rhino
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Haha - there's a "where are they now" for you... Tee Martin.Bet he'd trade that NCAA Championship for Manning's NFL Career. I'd say Manning got the better of that deal.What did Peyton's defense have to do with his ZERO vs the Jets, 3 vs the Pats last year, and 4 ints vs the Pats 2 years ago? Did Tee Martin cast a spell on Spurrier?Let's see. Ben Roethlisberger sucked in his first 2 playoff games. His team carried him in a win over the Jets, and he got blown out by NE. This was Eli's first playoff game. Peyton has won several big playoff games already. How many Super Bowls did Marino win? The jury is still out on how many Peyton will win. Also, and again, Peyton didn't defend Lamar Smith running for 200 on them in the playoffs, or the 200 George put on them. He also didn't play defense in that 41-0 loss to the NYJ, or miss that kick the idiot liquored up kicker missed against the Dolphins.The guy has a point. What's the biggest game any Manning has ever won?You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm
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lots of excuses here.by your avatar i can tell you are completely unbiased.Let's see. Ben Roethlisberger sucked in his first 2 playoff games. His team carried him in a win over the Jets, and he got blown out by NE. This was Eli's first playoff game. Peyton has won several big playoff games already (any playoff game is big). How many Super Bowls did Marino win? The jury is still out on how many Peyton will win. Also, and again, Peyton didn't defend Lamar Smith running for 200 on them in the playoffs, or the 200 George put on them. He also didn't play defense in that 41-0 loss to the NYJ, or miss that kick the idiot liquored up kicker missed against the Dolphins.The guy has a point. What's the biggest game any Manning has ever won?You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm
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