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Fanduel Week 1 (1 Viewer)

The obvious pick at QB is Hill for cash games. 13-14 points for $5k gives you a nice advantage over the comp. I'm leaning Foles in GPP, pairing him with a WR or TE from Philly...possibly Celek as he seemed to be a security blanked in preseason week 3.

Edleman/Vereen -- Like both for the price. Lean Vereen due to the higher chance at a TD.

WR bargains - golden tate, Maclin, Kelvin Benjamin, who can all be had for $5k. Maclin might be a solid pairing with Foles in GPP.

In all cash games, I grabbed Graham. Dude has a chip on his shoulder right now. Analyzing my cash game W/L after last year and I noticed that I won 65% of the games where I picked Graham...a handful higher than my overall w/l. I'm leaning stud TE in cash games and sticking with bargain in GPP this year.

Gerhart and MJD have tough matchups, but should get a ton of touches. I'm not going any lower than those two, or any higher than Ball at $8k.

 
Real cheap RBs with upside IMO are Woodhead and Stewart. Jennings is interesting as Eli may be dumping it off a lot. Besides Edleman and Benjamin mentioned earlier Im looking at Cooks and Decker as possible values at WR. Kelce as a TE in GPP.

 
John Lee said:
Caesar said:
I didn't really play much at DraftKings last year, but logging in so I could deposit for the Vegas viewing party with the FFWC, I noticed they don't require a kicker, so for those of you who hate the kicker, this is a great thing for you.

Anyone know if it has always been like this with no kicker?

I have always thought daily fantasy sites are way more of a crap shoot because of the kicker. The difference in just one field goal can be the difference between hundreds if you are playing in a big tourney. Most of the time kickers are completely unpredictable. Obviously, it is less important for the head to head and double ups.
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DraftKings had a kicker before 2014...

They surveyed their player base and found out that most (for the reasons you describe) wanted the get rid of the kicker requirement...and they listened! They also added an additional WR position which, when combined with the removal of kicker, should really give an advantage to the stronger daily players.
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Good info here. Thanks

 
I have played on FanDuel a bunch, but no other sites.

Is there anything I need to do for DraftKings to get better "rakeback" so to speak? (I used to play poker)

I am not sure if I need to sign up through an affiliate or just go to their site. Thanks!

 
karmarooster said:
Any thoughts on the Thursday game?

Seems like a nice matchup, could be an interesting game... but the Seattle D makes me want to avoid Lacy, Nelson, and Rodgers. Cobb could rack up some receptions if the outside corners are too strong and he's the outlet without a reliable TE. He's fairly expensive tho. The Seattle stadium will be rocking....other than Lynch who looks to be a decent value for top 5 RB, this might be the game with the most "prime time" entrants who just want to watch their guys on TV. Seems like more reason to fade.

Btw, does FanDuel no longer carry the "Sunday only" "1pm" etc. varieties?
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I LOVE Russell Wilson this week at (#14 for their QB's at 8100).

 
Play Thursday games, avoid Thursday players.

That said, I look at week 1 differently. Don't really love anyone in the game at current values though. Too high bust potential.

Harvin is a decent value on draftkings, maybe the only guy I'd consider.

After week one I'll avoid Thursday like the plague.

 
Any stacks people are liking in tournaments? I'm going to fade Thursday players and go with Ryan, jones and white or cutler, Jeffery and Marshall. Peyton and demaryius Thomas will be popular but expensive.

 
I'm not stacking this week. Mostly because I'm all over Hill and I can't pick a target of his who is stack worthy IMO

 
As a former professional online poker player, these sites interest me a great deal but have never gotten in to them (New found fear of loading money to online sites to place bets with...wonder why..)

Can anyone explain to me how Fan Duel works?

John Lee you are saying you are posting strats and lineups for week 1. Does this mean as a sub I can just click your article and copy your lineup and (over a good sample size) see a profit or do you not suggest starting certain players but give rundowns of many options?

Interested in getting in on this ASAP. I am a very dedicated player when it comes to poker, I probably spent 3-5 hours studying my game for every 1-2 hours I spent playing. I can dedicate the time to the research, I can calculate odds quickly, I can determine risk/reward or implied odds very well. I have very stingy BRM (Bank Roll Management) and I think this is something I could thrive off of instead of the usual weekly bodog bets.

 
shoecrew22 said:
As a former professional online poker player, these sites interest me a great deal but have never gotten in to them (New found fear of loading money to online sites to place bets with...wonder why..)

Can anyone explain to me how Fan Duel works?

John Lee you are saying you are posting strats and lineups for week 1. Does this mean as a sub I can just click your article and copy your lineup and (over a good sample size) see a profit or do you not suggest starting certain players but give rundowns of many options?

Interested in getting in on this ASAP. I am a very dedicated player when it comes to poker, I probably spent 3-5 hours studying my game for every 1-2 hours I spent playing. I can dedicate the time to the research, I can calculate odds quickly, I can determine risk/reward or implied odds very well. I have very stingy BRM (Bank Roll Management) and I think this is something I could thrive off of instead of the usual weekly bodog bets.
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Start with the vegas odds, target about 5 of the highest projected over under lines. Then isolate players from those matchups based on best points per dollar (from dodds or others). Study the CV of the different positions to build lineups for cash games vs. GPP. Then use bankroll management and game selection to put yourself in good spots.

I would start easy week 1 by entering several game types at different $ levels to collect some data. For example, if you enter a few 50/50s each at $1, $2, $5, $10... how much difference is there at the $1 level vs. the $10 level for avg winning score? Also build the base of your money in play each week with H2H games.

I learned something last year from going on a 3 week tank of almost my entire bankroll that had been up 300% - namely, that 50/50s can be volatile. If you are in the ballpark of 35-40th percentile for one week, you will most likely lose all 50/50s. But if you were playing H2H games, you'd win about 35-40% of your games.


Finally test out some 2x and 3x "tourneys" as well as the real tournaments at $1 and $2.
 
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Did 1pm Only contests open up before the Thursday game last year? For some reason, I'm thinking they open those up on Thursday night. Anyone remember?

 
So there's no more "Expert" or "Beginner" salary caps this year on Fanduel? Everything I see is $ 60K cap.

 
Pantherz said:
So there's no more "Expert" or "Beginner" salary caps this year on Fanduel? Everything I see is $ 60K cap.
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I haven't looked, but a high-level FanDuel exec told me in July that those games were not popular enough to keep around for NFL, so they had planned on 86'ing them.

 
Dear FBGs - where's the Daily content? Only 3 articles up now, none relevant to week 1 picks.

The NFL season kicks off in 32 hours. Week 1 projections for Dodds and Tremblay are already up... but they haven't been combined with the FD and DK salary amounts. The only daily articles available are irrelevant to week 1. Although I see you were quick to put up your article shilling for the FBGs promo code to signup on FanDuel...

FanDuel - HUGE 100% Deposit Bonus for FootballGuys!
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How about a little less focus on milking subscribers for FD signup bonuses and their associated kickbacks, and a little more on getting the articles out? I certainly could build my own excel sheet with site projections and divide by the salary levels, but I pay for a premium subscription to avoid doing just that. Other premium websites, 4for4 and Rotogrinders, already have their premium week 1 daily content available.

 
Someone help me with the benefits of stacking vs just using best value at QB and WR/TE even on different teams?

I can see using it to increase variance in big tournaments, but why do that in a 50/50 or H2H?

 
wdcrob said:
Someone help me with the benefits of stacking vs just using best value at QB and WR/TE even on different teams?

I can see using it to increase variance in big tournaments, but why do that in a 50/50 or H2H?
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my understanding is you do it in GPPs, just like you said. not so much in other contests.

 
wdcrob said:
Someone help me with the benefits of stacking vs just using best value at QB and WR/TE even on different teams?

I can see using it to increase variance in big tournaments, but why do that in a 50/50 or H2H?
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You'd probably want to do the opposite in a cash game... e.g. avoid pairing a QB and WR or TE unless the value dictates they are the best plays by a wide margin. The "stacking" in cash games that would be more useful is to pair a QB with his RB, in order to decrease variance. In that case, you're more certain to get the offensive touchdown unless it goes to a TD vulture.

 
karmarooster said:
wdcrob said:
Someone help me with the benefits of stacking vs just using best value at QB and WR/TE even on different teams?

I can see using it to increase variance in big tournaments, but why do that in a 50/50 or H2H?
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You'd probably want to do the opposite in a cash game... e.g. avoid pairing a QB and WR or TE unless the value dictates they are the best plays by a wide margin. The "stacking" in cash games that would be more useful is to pair a QB with his RB, in order to decrease variance. In that case, you're more certain to get the offensive touchdown unless it goes to a TD vulture.
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Thanks -- that's what I was thinking, but got the impression people were arguing for stacks all the time and couldn't work out why.

 
I gave Fanduel a shot last year and it was a lot of fun and I got a little money back. I'm still holding out hope for some kind of special opening weekend reload bonus...because I don't have an account with Draft Kings and it's tempting to go there and potentially have double the money to play with. But I really like Fanduel and am familar with it...

Looking foward to it this year and discussing it.

Can someone tell me, are the values for players pretty much the same on FanDuel and Draft Kings?

Also, what does GPP stand for?

Also, what are your thoughts on approaching week 1 as far as your bankroll is concerned? Are you approaching it the same as any other week? Are you holding back a little for week 1, or is week 1 a good week to make money?

 
Yo Jabroni... to answer your questions. No the values on FD and DK are fairly different. For example Emmanual Sanders is quite cheap on DK and mid-price on FD. There is less variation at the top of the tables, however. GPP stands for Guaranteed prize pool... aka big tourneys, or more long-shot games like 5x and 10x multipliers.

As for week 1, I'm trying to hold back a bit. One of the big mistakes I made last year was to have 100% of bankroll in play most weeks. This year I'm aiming for a 50% max general rule, but for week 1 slightly lower than that around 30-40%. There's just a bit more uncertainty since we don't have a few weeks of data to review for trends.

 
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Thanks for the info.

Yeah, I was thinking of holding back on week 1 as well.

I feel like someone who skipped class all week and just showed back up and am a bit lost, so I don't feel too confident right now.

Was thinking of just throwing a few bucks into some long shot tournements this weekend and waiting for week 2.

 
karmarooster said:
The NFL season kicks off in 32 hours. Week 1 projections for Dodds and Tremblay are already up... but they haven't been combined with the FD and DK salary amounts.
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Coming.

These aren't ready for prime time yet, but you can check them out if you want.

On the Daily

FanDuel variations

Still working out the kinks, but properly working versions of those plus the Interactive Value charts should be up before tomorrow night's game.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
karmarooster said:
The NFL season kicks off in 32 hours. Week 1 projections for Dodds and Tremblay are already up... but they haven't been combined with the FD and DK salary amounts.
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Coming.

These aren't ready for prime time yet, but you can check them out if you want.

On the Daily

FanDuel variations

Still working out the kinks, but properly working versions of those plus the Interactive Value charts should be up before tomorrow night's game.
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Thanks MT!

 
some good value at WR on draftkings IMO... E. Sanders 4800, J Edelman 5300, R Wayne 5100, K Benjamin 4200, B Cooks 4500. thoughts? other looks? also liking Delanie Walker at 3300 for TE

 
Peyton Marino said:
some good value at WR on draftkings IMO... E. Sanders 4800, J Edelman 5300, R Wayne 5100, K Benjamin 4200, B Cooks 4500. thoughts? other looks? also liking Delanie Walker at 3300 for TE
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The Browns were like 1700, thought that was real low albeit against Big Ben.

 
How many contest do you typically enter in a given week?

How many typical line-ups do you typically do when you enter multiple contest?

1 line-up for every 10 contest?

1 line-up for every 25 contest?

Last year I always entered the same line-up and mostly played H2H against different people with decent results playing between 20-30 games a week.

Because I stated entering contest early this year I have somehow managed to enter 250 contest for week 1. Is it foolish to go all in with 1 team?

I know you can change all teams at once but is there a way to change multiple teams without changing all at once.

 
shoecrew22 said:
As a former professional online poker player, these sites interest me a great deal but have never gotten in to them (New found fear of loading money to online sites to place bets with...wonder why..)

Can anyone explain to me how Fan Duel works?

John Lee you are saying you are posting strats and lineups for week 1. Does this mean as a sub I can just click your article and copy your lineup and (over a good sample size) see a profit or do you not suggest starting certain players but give rundowns of many options?

Interested in getting in on this ASAP. I am a very dedicated player when it comes to poker, I probably spent 3-5 hours studying my game for every 1-2 hours I spent playing. I can dedicate the time to the research, I can calculate odds quickly, I can determine risk/reward or implied odds very well. I have very stingy BRM (Bank Roll Management) and I think this is something I could thrive off of instead of the usual weekly bodog bets.
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I thought about this question a lot over the course of the preseason and decided against posting a lineup for subscribers based on my own analysis.

My thought process?

1) I don't want somebody entering contests against me with the same lineup, so that we both lose the rake.

2) I don't like the idea of somebody depositing their grocery money onto a daily site and having a bad week based on "my" bad week & blaming me for not being able to feed their children that week.

3) My preseason series "DFS for Dummies" was written to educate the novice...but by spoonfeeding somebody a pre-fabricated, winning lineup, I defeat the purpose of all those efforts.

Despite this decision, I feel confident that anybody who employs my preseason strategies alongside my weekly analysis should place themselves in a good position to win consistently.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
These aren't ready for prime time yet, but you can check them out if you want.

On the Daily

FanDuel variations

Still working out the kinks, but properly working versions of those plus the Interactive Value charts should be up before tomorrow night's game.
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On the Daily, FanDuel Variations, and the Interactive Value Charts are now ready for primetime.

I covered seven sites last year. Two are gone: DraftStreet and StarStreet. A third still exists, but doesn't have NFL stuff listed yet: FanThrowdown.

That leaves four sites that I'm currently covering: FanDuel, DraftKings, DraftDay, and FantasyFeud.

DraftKings changed their lineup requirements, but I've adjusted to that.

DraftDay also changed their lineups. I've adjusted the Interactive Value Chart, but adjusting On The Daily is going to take more time.

So for now, I've got three sites covered in On the Daily, and four sites covered with the Interactive Value Charts.

There are a bunch of new sites this year, so I'll look into covering some of them in week two.

 
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topman said:
How many contest do you typically enter in a given week?

How many typical line-ups do you typically do when you enter multiple contest?

1 line-up for every 10 contest?

1 line-up for every 25 contest?

Last year I always entered the same line-up and mostly played H2H against different people with decent results playing between 20-30 games a week.

Because I stated entering contest early this year I have somehow managed to enter 250 contest for week 1. Is it foolish to go all in with 1 team?

I know you can change all teams at once but is there a way to change multiple teams without changing all at once.
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Some people will say that you should play THE optimal lineup in all games. But that doesn't insure you against any random player getting hurt in the first quarter. If you're playing mostly H2H, that wouldn't be a disaster, but it certainly would for any kind of 50/50 our larger tourney. 1 to 2 to 3 lineups with some slight variations that still track a few building blocks (but without one player in all 3 lineups) is the best insurance against injury.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
These aren't ready for prime time yet, but you can check them out if you want.

On the Daily

FanDuel variations

Still working out the kinks, but properly working versions of those plus the Interactive Value charts should be up before tomorrow night's game.
Click to expand...
On the Daily, FanDuel Variations, and the Interactive Value Charts are now ready for primetime.

I covered seven sites last year. Two are gone: DraftStreet and StarStreet. A third still exists, but doesn't have NFL stuff listed yet: FanThrowdown.

That leaves four sites that I'm currently covering: FanDuel, DraftKings, DraftDay, and FantasyFeud.

DraftKings changed their lineup requirements, but I've adjusted to that.

DraftDay also changed their lineups. I've adjusted the Interactive Value Chart, but adjusting On The Daily is going to take more time.

So for now, I've got three sites covered in On the Daily, and four sites covered with the Interactive Value Charts.

There are a bunch of new sites this year, so I'll look into covering some of them in week two.
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Nice work... I can see now that for week 1 with so many site variations there may have been more kinks to work out than I would've expected. Thanks for getting all of your content posted, unlike a few others who haven't (cough... dodds). So far, his recommendations consist of 3 kickers, on his blog.

 
Fanduel -- Victor Cruz and Gerhart seem to fit nicely info many lineups. Solid value plays.

Still like Hill on cash games...just too cheap a price to ignore.

 
Bolden's value was not bad@ 6k. Now if Crabtree is out how much does it increase his value?

Do you get him in Thursday's contest knowing his value is okay and takes a jump if Crabtree sits?

 
Bolden was a decent value at $6k without the Crabtree calf. Not a bad option with the upside potential.

Considering him as my 3rd WR in GPP, but afraid everyone will pile on now.

 
I wish fanduel would get rid of kickers, it's just such a random and pointless position. I'm still going to have the bulk of my play at fanduel this year, but draft kings got rid of kickers and added an extra WR spot (maybe flex?) which I like, I'm going to try them out because of that.

 
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MT or anyone...what are some of these new sites this year?

Can't believe Fanthrowdown is still around after their fiasco last yr. I probably still have $10-$20 bucks in there from those simple $.25 payout freerolls. Should see if I can double that up a few times.

Never was a fan of draftstreet, but iirc they had some fans here. These sites just implode and you never see your money?

 
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