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Fanduel Week 1 (2 Viewers)

Don't like Wayne and wouldn't pair Colston with Graham -- not sure there's much of a chance they both go off for 80+ and 2 TDs each.

You could try to stack someone like Boldin with Kaep and find a long threat (like one of the guys you mention in the first paragraph -- those are the kind of guys I like as well, deep threats that see consistent targets).

I think you're trying to find your way to 180 points or so. To win a massive tourney it might take 200, or more, but if you can find your way to 180 a handful of times during the year, you'll win a few tourneys, although maybe not the biggest ones.

 
andrewd173 said:
Condia:

Hill, mccoy, charles, colston, Malcom floyd, julio, graham, freese, jets

Alex smith, mccoy, charles, colston, e sanders, Malcom floyd, graham, freese, lions

Hill, mccoy, charles, colston, Malcom floyd, Demarcus thomas, julio thomas, freese, eagles
I hadn't really given Malcolm Floyd much thought but I guess the logic here is that Peterson takes away Allen?
I haven't played much at Fanduel, but over the short time I have played, it didn't take long to hear/learn about Condia. With his "legendary" status, how is it, do you think, that he maintains a "high winning percentage" (I assume he does) week after week, year after year? It would have to be, more than anything, that there are still schools upon schools of guppies (like me, at first) swimming around at Fanduel, just waiting to be gobbled up by Sharks. If Condia really is winning gobs of cash on a consistent basis, it seems that one could study his lineups week in and week out and join him in the feeding frenzy. Can't be that simple now, can it?

My initial thinking going into week one was to build my teams around McCoy/Charles, due to their guarantee of high-volume touches, and great values like Hill and Maclin floating around. To my surprise, Condia is doing exactly that (in a few of his lineups, anyways). Kinda makes me feel like I actually am getting a handle on the daily fantasy winning formula, although I have only played it for a relatively short time.
Cant you just copy Condias lineup exactly each week? Wont you likely profit by just waiting till thursday to see his lineups and then using the same lineups for Sunday? It looks like he doesnt play thursday players so you can use exact same lineup. Just let Condia do all the research for you

 
Cant you just copy Condias lineup exactly each week? Wont you likely profit by just waiting till thursday to see his lineups and then using the same lineups for Sunday? It looks like he doesnt play thursday players so you can use exact same lineup. Just let Condia do all the research for you
Using condia's -- or anyone's -- Thursday lineup in a Sunday contest wouldn't be great. There's a lot of news and injury info that comes out between Thursday and Sunday morning. The Sunday morning inactive lists can change things quite a bit.

I know for a fact, because I've tracked it, that Sunday morning projections by me, Dodds, and Bloom are more accurate than our respective Thursday afternoon projections.

You're at a disadvantage if, on Sunday morning, you're still using Thursday afternoon's thinking, even if it's condia's.

 
My last post brings up another point.

A great way to gain an advantage is to sign up for Sunday morning contests early in the week, like on Monday or Tuesday. Then make sure you adjust your lineup on Sunday morning using the latest projections.

A lot of people enter a contest early in the week and then make no adjustments. You want to exploit those people.

 
How you use the lineup is also a big factor (where do you enter which team). Managing your $ wisely is also key. You could pick a great team every week, but play too many GPPs and 50/50s and end up losing $ in the end.

Condia plays so much volume every week it would be impossible to really get a grip on how often he's using certainly lineups across all game.

 
For those looking at the Thursday Fade and looking for a unique GPP lineup here are some high %'s of players owned pulled from a Thursday GPP with 11450 entries:

  • Frank Gore 11.9%
  • McCoy 23.4%
  • E. Sanders 20.5%
  • Manning 11%
  • Maclin 15%
  • Megatron 12.1%
  • Julius Thomas 10%
  • Demaryius Thomas 13%
  • Reggie Bush 10.7%
  • Brandon marshall 11.4%
  • Nick Foles 14%
  • Julio Jones 11.4%
  • Andre Ellignton 15% (Yeah)
 
For those looking at the Thursday Fade and looking for a unique GPP lineup here are some high %'s of players owned pulled from a Thursday GPP with 11450 entries:

  • Frank Gore 11.9%
  • McCoy 23.4%
  • E. Sanders 20.5%
  • Manning 11%
  • Maclin 15%
  • Megatron 12.1%
  • Julius Thomas 10%
  • Demaryius Thomas 13%
  • Reggie Bush 10.7%
  • Brandon marshall 11.4%
  • Nick Foles 14%
  • Julio Jones 11.4%
  • Andre Ellignton 15% (Yeah)
I'll add from another big one:

J Graham 15.9%

Detroit DEF 12.9 %

Colston 10.3%

 
How you use the lineup is also a big factor (where do you enter which team). Managing your $ wisely is also key. You could pick a great team every week, but play too many GPPs and 50/50s and end up losing $ in the end.

Condia plays so much volume every week it would be impossible to really get a grip on how often he's using certainly lineups across all game.
what is a 50/50?

 
How you use the lineup is also a big factor (where do you enter which team). Managing your $ wisely is also key. You could pick a great team every week, but play too many GPPs and 50/50s and end up losing $ in the end.

Condia plays so much volume every week it would be impossible to really get a grip on how often he's using certainly lineups across all game.
what is a 50/50?
Half the players win, not quite doubling their money, and half the players lose, parting ways with their buy-in.

 
A couple of questions about avoiding the sharks in HTH matches,

How do you see a history of the player and what is the key to look for?

For the beginner contests how is it known if a player is really a beginner?

 
A couple of questions about avoiding the sharks in HTH matches,

How do you see a history of the player and what is the key to look for?

For the beginner contests how is it known if a player is really a beginner?
Get Steeler's bookmarklets from post 102. They have instructions and make it quicker and easier. You can click on the number of entries and see who's already in the contest anyway, but the bookmarklets are great.

I thought the beginner contests went away this year.

 
just look for ebsteelers in contest.. i've yet to be able to translate season long success to daily.

cant figure out the right number of line ups where its not just a waste of money etc

 
just look for ebsteelers in contest.. i've yet to be able to translate season long success to daily.

cant figure out the right number of line ups where its not just a waste of money etc
I'm a less is more kind of guy. In h2h and 50/50, I typically have 2 teams, one gets 80% of the $ I allocated for that specific week, team #2 gets the remaining 20%. In GPP I spend 80% of allocated funds on a 3rd, GPP specific squad. Some weeks I might have 2-3 SLIGHT variations to that team (maybe different Ks or Ds, or a single WR/TE swap for a different stack). The other 20% of my GPP funds go to my #1 team from the h2h games.

Even with the different squads, they are all usually built with similar core players for that week. Variations in my GPP specific squad are typically 1 player...sometimes there are 0 variations in GPP if I feel very strongly about a team.

Once you get up to 4-5 different squads in h2h and 50/50, I think you've significantly decreased your odds of having more than 60% wins for the week (which is always my goal).

 
Taking my shot at the GPP question, you want to pick a perfect storm of players that 10% or less of the population will have, usually involving a stack.

Last year cutler and Marshall went off a few times, Gordon and Jackson (or was it cambell, the qb for the browns).

There is a great article on the FBG pro page on optimizing lineups based on goals, and they say it much better than I can. But you're asking on here, so ...

One example of a GPP lineup I put together has a QB and WR vs a decent run def, but a poor pass def, in a close game: Palmer and Floyd. With Ellington most likely out, I see the cards throwing a lot, and I like Floyd as the off recover as Fitz should get coverage rolled to him. (One could make an argument for Fitz as the superior pairing, but I prefer Floyd. YMMV.) Another example might be Cutler and Marshall vs the Bills.

Then, I would plug in 2 high upside rb's like CJ2K and fjax, and 2 premium wr's and a decent te.

GPP winners usually have a def with a def td as well. Hard to call in week 1, but I am liking the Lions vs eli, the turnover machine or the Jets vs a rookie qb in his first start with Rex ryan pressure to protect his lack of cb's. Last year KC had an awesome return game, unsure for this year yet. KC had a preseason return for a td, Eagles with huff (injured), maybe rams with tavon.

All in all, your whole lineup should hit 3x points per 1k invested. With a good bit of your bankroll in highly volitile positions like WR, TD scoring TE. Usually that means going with a cheap or medium cost qb and at least 1 rb. Of course this week is different with some cheap wr's having good matchups: Maclin, e sanders, g tate, Kelvin beng, etc.

I hope that helps. Read the FBG articles and observe a few GPP's before you invest a lot :)

 
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Taking my shot at the GPP question, you want to pick a perfect storm of players that 10% or less of the population will have, usually involving a stack.

Last year cutler and Marshall went off a few times, Gordon and Jackson (or was it cambell, the qb for the browns).

There is a great article on the FBT pro page on optimizing lineups based on goals, and they say it much better than I can. But you're asking on here, so ...

One example of a GPP lineup I put together has a QB and WR vs a decent run def, but a poor pass def, in a close game: Palmer and Floyd. With Ellington most likely out, I see the cards throwing a lot, and I like Floyd as the off recover as Fitz should get coverage rolled to him. (One could make an argument for Fitz as the superior pairing, but I prefer Floyd. YMMV.) Another example might be Cutler and Marshall vs the Bills.

Then, I would plug in 2 high upside rb's like CJ2K and fjax, and 2 premium wr's and a decent te.

GPP winners usually have a def with a def td as well. Hard to call in week 1, but I am liking the Lions vs eli, the turnover machine or the Jets vs a rookie qb in his first start with Rex ryan pressure to protect his lack of cb's. Last year KC had an awesome return game, unsure for this year yet. KC had a preseason return for a td, Eagles with huff (injured), maybe rams with tavon.

All in all, your whole lineup should hit 3x points per 1k invested. With a good bit of your bankroll in highly volitile positions like WR, TD scoring TE. Usually that means going with a cheap or medium cost qb and at least 1 rb. Of course this week is different with some cheap wr's having good matchups: Maclin, e sanders, g tate, Kelvin beng, etc.

I hope that helps. Read the FBT articles and observe a few GPP's before you invest a lot :)
What is FBT?

 
Tremblay can you address my question, where dodds link is? Thank you, much appreciated.
I believe they are debuting in week two, and that they were originally listed on the week one content page by mistake.

But I've been hesitating to answer because I don't know for sure. I'll try to find out...
Thank you sir.
It appears I was wrong, and Dodds' stuff should be up by tomorrow.

 
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I am up and running as of last night. Entered my first couple of lineups this morning (one is the free roll for practice). It took me like 2 hours to enter my lineups because I kept having like 10k left to spend. I figured it was good to just save it for later.

Do you guys think it is easier to win head to head, 50/50, or GPP starting out?

 
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I am up and running as of last night. Entered my first couple of lineups this morning (one is the free roll for practice). It took me like 2 hours to enter my lineups because I kept having like 10k left to spend. I figured it was good to just save it for later.

Do you guys think it is easier to win head to head, 50/50, or GPP starting out?
H2H. I go 60% h2h, 29% 50/50 and 11% GPP every week.

Think of it this way -- if your team is only better than 40% of the entries, you'll likely never win a 50/50, but should win about 40% of h2hs.

 
Entered one of the large $25 Thurs contests and couldnt get online Thurs night to change my lineup :wall:

Stafford 4%

McCoy 28%

Jackson 4%

Edelman 10%

Wayne 2.5%

Sanu 1%

Graham 19%

McManus 3%

Det 15%

Didnt get a stack but it isnt horrible and I have some decent low % players.

 
What is FBT?
A horrible typo by myself, should have been FBG.

I have to say, the expanded staff have already cranked out a few gems of articles, and I love MT's expanded tools already available for week 1 - compared to last year. This site keeps getting better :)

And for some additional random unsolicited advice from the interwebs that I wish I had known last year ...

Do a sample of contests to start out, and let your results tell you how to play. That's the Kelly criterion in a nushell, and in a way, a step beyond that method. Besides win/loss at a certain contest type, you also receive feedback by how much you win or lose by. That can also guide you into other contest types. Example questions that can answer: Knowing my 4 lineups regularly score in the 63,60,56,52 percentiles, how many lineups should I play? On average I am a 57th percentile player, how do I maximize my profit, and what contest types should I consider?

Additionally, be aware of your demographics. Different types of players are usually in different $ level contests. Keep an eye on player wins. Last year I did well at lower price points and built up my bankroll until I was entering more expensive contests, and found out the competition was more intense. (I think Dodds did some research on 'high roller' contests that says the skill level may plateau or decrease on the top, but I doubt I will ever be comfortable playing at that level.)

In summary, be aware of all of your feedback and demographics when building your strategy.

 
if you enter thursday games, you will see condia or whoevers lineup and they will likely target some of those same players for sunday. people posted a few samples a page or two back.

 
I'm covering FantasyAces now as well. I don't know how many more I'll cover. There are a ton of new sites out there, but I don't know if anybody here plays them. If you have a specific request, let me know.

FantasyAces has an interesting format available, where the salary cap is more of a suggestion than a rule. You get bonus points for staying significantly under it, and you pay penalty points for going over it, but it's not a hard limit.

 
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Draftkings has a 'beginner' section where you play against people with 50 or fewer contests (or wins, not sure), which was mentioned a page back or so. I took the DK plunge for that deposit bonus.

DK Beginner games are actually way better than the old FanDuel "beginner" 65k salary cap... that game format just tests picking studs rather than value players, but it isn't inherently easier and is open anyone. Hoping that these DK beginner games are pretty good as they're basically cherry-pre-picked. Of course I only get 50 entries (playing these exclusively until I'm maxed out), so looking to maximize the potential advantage, I went with mostly Triples and 50/50s at higher dollar amounts rather than carpet bomb the $1 H2H. High risk but hopefully my lineups will hit.

Draftkings - $250 bankroll, $65 in play (26%) plus $2 freeroll

Fanduel - $250 bankroll, $120 in play (48%)

 
Draftkings has a 'beginner' section where you play against people with 50 or fewer contests (or wins, not sure), which was mentioned a page back or so. I took the DK plunge for that deposit bonus.

DK Beginner games are actually way better than the old FanDuel "beginner" 65k salary cap... that game format just tests picking studs rather than value players, but it isn't inherently easier and is open anyone. Hoping that these DK beginner games are pretty good as they're basically cherry-pre-picked. Of course I only get 50 entries (playing these exclusively until I'm maxed out), so looking to maximize the potential advantage, I went with mostly Triples and 50/50s at higher dollar amounts rather than carpet bomb the $1 H2H. High risk but hopefully my lineups will hit.

Draftkings - $250 bankroll, $65 in play (26%) plus $2 freeroll

Fanduel - $250 bankroll, $120 in play (48%)
i just joined draft kings too, do you know if you get 50 beginner entries total, or is it that you can only join beginner tourneys in your first 50 contests?

"Tip: Play against other beginners in up to 50 contests for each sport. Once you reach that limit, per sport, these contests will no longer be available to you. Get ramped up today

 
Damn I guess the $25 1million is full? I don't see it up anymore, still had like 7-8000 openings as of yesterday. Oh well, my mistake if so just making sure I'm not just missing it somehow.

 
Damn I guess the $25 1million is full? I don't see it up anymore, still had like 7-8000 openings as of yesterday. Oh well, my mistake if so just making sure I'm not just missing it somehow.
Well. I guess that answers it I just went back and someone must have just left the tournament and literally one spot was open and luckily I got in. Gl later today fellas.

 
I'm covering FantasyAces now as well. I don't know how many more I'll cover. There are a ton of new sites out there, but I don't know if anybody here plays them. If you have a specific request, let me know.

FantasyAces has an interesting format available, where the salary cap is more of a suggestion than a rule. You get bonus points for staying significantly under it, and you pay penalty points for going over it, but it's not a hard limit.
i guess I should have read the rules before I entered. Luckily it was the freeroll only. Thought my team was stacked.
 
Here is my favorite lineup of the week:

QB Shaun Hill

RB Fred Jackson

RB LeSean McCoy

WR Brandon Marshall

WR Antonio Brown

WR TY Hilton

TE Julius Thomas

K Adam Vinatieri

D Steelers

Posted all of my strategy and lineups for week one here.

 
I love setting lineups for GPP's. Never win but it's fun as hell. Allen Hurns is a favourite of mine this week.

 

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