mikmak8902 said:
I absolutely am not defending it and you show me one sentence I typed here that says I am. You just seem hell bent on making it look like I am.
You do realize you just quoted me saying "Not saying it's right in all scenarios" to correctly state it's "seldom right in any scenario". OK ... so that was important to get our percentages correct. Got it.
I think he's an idiot for punching Smith. I believe I just said that in the post you just replied to telling me I'm defending him. I also think Smith is an idiot for allowing this to escalate to this point and by the sounds of it, he helped it along by acting in an aggressive manner with this guy.
Listen, if you want to debate with me that's fine but don't lecture me about right and wrong while you're twisting my words to create an argument that simply isn't there.
I appreciate the clarification that you were not defending the linebacker and I recognize that you have called him an idiot several times in this thread. However what you intend and what you are saying don't always align in a web forum format.
When you say things like what I quoted below (and excuse me for pulling snippets and not the whole posts but that would just make this far too long, I don't believe that I removed any important context) it comes off as victim blaming and that doesn't sit very well with me (obviously).
Also, just so you know, I am well aware that no one in the history of the internet has ever won or lost a debate. So it is not my intent in any discussion to accomplish that.
That's one guy being bold enough to invade another guy's personal space in a disrespectful manner and getting put to sleep.
Geno was probably being a tool and got lit up.
If you don't want to get knocked out, stop mouthing off and getting into altercations with your teammates. Be a leader and learn how to diffuse situations like this as apposed to making them worse.
I don't know where you grew up but I learned at a very young age that a finger pointed in someone's face is loosely translated to "please knock me the ##### out".
In all seriousness, that's not what I expect out of my starting QB.
1. What's he doing in a "childish" argument with a teammate?
2. Why is he making said childish argument worse by demeaning said teammate instead of trying to diffuse the situation like a true leader would do?
mikmak8902 said:
In my experience, people don't get knocked out without reason.
mikmak8902 said:
I think the only thing we have to tidy up is the fact that only one of us thinks you shouldn't be surprised that you got laid out when you were in a heated argument pointing your finger in someone else's face. Not saying it's right in all scenarios ... just saying you shouldn't be surprised.
These quotes (and posts by many others in this thread) suggests that, with the facts we had at the time (Geno put his finger close to the LBs face), that it was Geno's fault for getting punched. That is victim blaming, plain and simple.
The simple truth is that putting your finger in someone's face is a non-violent action and a violent response is always inappropriate
*. Sorry but you don't get to punch people just because they piss you off and, again with the facts we had at the time, that is exactly what the LB did. You don't get to do it over money, or if someone slept with your girlfriend or any other situation
* where someone was non-violent towards you.
*I admit that I have not considered every single possible scenario but I am hard pressed to come up with a situation where someone putting their finger in my face would mandate me punching that person in the face. I can see wanting to do it but I can't see a situation where it would be the appropriate response.
But good for "the linebacker". 
I bet that's the last time Geno says that to anyone. 
