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If, however, it's shown that an employee is not doing the work required of the position while working at home vs the office then, of course, that situation needs rectifying.
Anyone that is doing things to avoid work while home will do the same in the office building. It's not like your boss hovers over you while in the office - and as you laid out there's a lot of time suck in the office where nothing is being accomplished other than being in a building with other co-workers.
There's just a much smaller subset of things to do at the office. A lot of times at the office, I would just work b/c it helped pass the time. LOL. I was also a lot more engaged in meetings b/c what was the alternative.

This definitely differs for me. The last time I went in to the office, the first 45 minutes-1 hour was spent finding a seat and connecting since we no longer have assigned spaces and computers aren't wired in. Then one of my bosses came over and said they were going for coffee, so I joined them. There's another 45 minutes. People shooting the **** is more time wasted. By the time I actually got something done, it was lunch time.

At home, I roll out of bed, make coffee and immediately start working. That's at 7 am. So starting and being productive that early.

Bottom line I don't think there is necessarily less distraction at work and in some cases there could be more. As usual with this, it depends on the situation.
 
If, however, it's shown that an employee is not doing the work required of the position while working at home vs the office then, of course, that situation needs rectifying.
Anyone that is doing things to avoid work while home will do the same in the office building. It's not like your boss hovers over you while in the office - and as you laid out there's a lot of time suck in the office where nothing is being accomplished other than being in a building with other co-workers.
There's just a much smaller subset of things to do at the office. A lot of times at the office, I would just work b/c it helped pass the time. LOL. I was also a lot more engaged in meetings b/c what was the alternative.

This definitely differs for me. The last time I went in to the office, the first 45 minutes-1 hour was spent finding a seat and connecting since we no longer have assigned spaces and computers aren't wired in. Then one of my bosses came over and said they were going for coffee, so I joined them. There's another 45 minutes. People shooting the **** is more time wasted. By the time I actually got something done, it was lunch time.

At home, I roll out of bed, make coffee and immediately start working. That's at 7 am. So starting and being productive that early.

Bottom line I don't think there is necessarily less distraction at work and in some cases there could be more. As usual with this, it depends on the situation.
Yeah for me, it was either a bathroom trip or a trip to the break room to kill time. At home, well you name it. As long as I don't trip any alarms and I can give some reasonable explanation on how I spent my time the day before in my morning team status meeting, I have the freedom to spend my day however I want.
 
If, however, it's shown that an employee is not doing the work required of the position while working at home vs the office then, of course, that situation needs rectifying.
Anyone that is doing things to avoid work while home will do the same in the office building. It's not like your boss hovers over you while in the office - and as you laid out there's a lot of time suck in the office where nothing is being accomplished other than being in a building with other co-workers.
There's just a much smaller subset of things to do at the office. A lot of times at the office, I would just work b/c it helped pass the time. LOL. I was also a lot more engaged in meetings b/c what was the alternative.

This definitely differs for me. The last time I went in to the office, the first 45 minutes-1 hour was spent finding a seat and connecting since we no longer have assigned spaces and computers aren't wired in. Then one of my bosses came over and said they were going for coffee, so I joined them. There's another 45 minutes. People shooting the **** is more time wasted. By the time I actually got something done, it was lunch time.

At home, I roll out of bed, make coffee and immediately start working. That's at 7 am. So starting and being productive that early.

Bottom line I don't think there is necessarily less distraction at work and in some cases there could be more. As usual with this, it depends on the situation.
Agree with it depending on situation. I’m a tax attorney; definitely bill less client time on days when I’m in the office (as have the commute time and time chatting with others), but also feel more productive in other ways. I’m probably more the other way with it being the junior people that I spend more time chatting with when I’m in the office, rather than bosses/senior people. When I‘m in the office, someone will frequently swing by and ask me to help explain something to them (maybe can charge it, maybe not). While that happens virtually too, it seems more frequent when I’m in the office. The more junior staff understand, the easier they make it for me when I review their work; so, I don’t mind it.

Overall, flexibility is the key for me. I went in the office yesterday, but working from home today — was able to take a quick break at lunch to go to my son’s school for some Thanksgiving lunch with the students that the school was hosting (which never would have been able to do in the pre-virtual days).
 

Wow, just wow.

This particularly struck me:

"I want to be able to have a more flexible life, where I can maybe go into the office for a morning meeting, then have lunch at home, and some time to run errands in the afternoon. I want to be able to work remotely more."

So the only work you want to do on a daily basis is that morning meeting? Maybe another hour in the afternoon?

This type of crap gives remote work a bad rap. Remote doesn't mean less hours at your desk!! It just means that the desk is in your home!
 
“How can I make sure I'm eating well and seeing my friends and taking time for my hobbies? How am I supposed to fit my whole life into a 9-to-5 work schedule?” Lol. I’m assuming most this age aren’t this self unaware.
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I have this same internal conversation whenever I am swamped at work and am actually doing a legit 9-5 sort of thing. 9-5 sucks. We shouldn't **** on people who strive to not do that for the next 40 years of their lives
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.

But if you want to live in a nice area (let alone a metropolitan area) not have roommates, have nice clothes and new electronics, take nice vacations, order Uber eats 5x a week and retire at some point, certain sacrifices have be made.

Dont get me wrong, GenZ is getting screwed in several ways in terms of the cost of housing, student debt (although some of that is on them for their educational choices) etc. but you can't have your cake and eat it too. If your expectation is that you get to set your own hours, only work as hard and often as you want in whatever field makes you happy AND have the best of everything(especially at 23 years old right out of college) ....your expectations probably aren't very realistic. You better be a superstar with an extremely rare and valuable skill set.

Someone working at a YMCA office (not knocking that sort of work, just quoting the article) probably doesn't qualify.
 
“How can I make sure I'm eating well and seeing my friends and taking time for my hobbies? How am I supposed to fit my whole life into a 9-to-5 work schedule?” Lol. I’m assuming most this age aren’t this self unaware.
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I have this same internal conversation whenever I am swamped at work and am actually doing a legit 9-5 sort of thing. 9-5 sucks. We shouldn't **** on people who strive to not do that for the next 40 years of their lives

At least for me, I'm not ****ting on them for striving not to do that, I'm ****ting on them for naivety, their sense of entitlement, and the laziness that comes through whenever I read or hear these types of complaints. It's the same with young people who work one year in an entry level position and think they are automatically qualified to be promoted to a manager position . You see it a lot these days.

I fully endorse getting rid of the 9-5 in some capacity, but you can't just do that because you need time to run errands and see friends for lunch or because your parents told you you're a unique snowflake who can have anything you want. All of the previous generations figured out how to balance work and life, so can you.
 
23 y/o niece: "wait... five days of work/home/sleep, then all I get is the weekend? That's it? That's my entire life?"
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
 
It's the same with young people who work one year in an entry level position and think they are automatically qualified to be promoted to a manager position . You see it a lot these days.

This always seems to be a thing, I remember first getting into the industry I'm in about 25 years ago, right out of college. Everyone else I went to school with refused to take the crappy jobs where they just #### on you and call it "learning the ropes" and "paying your dues". This was in the late 90s, they all said stuff like "I have a college degree, I'm not doing that #### work". Especially because we all attended the top school in the country for this field, they felt they should be above the people with GEDs and not have to do entry-level jobs. Everyone said "I'm overqualified to do that kind of work".

And, yes, technically they were. The bottom-rung jobs could be handled by a high school intern. But there was vital stuff still to be learned, practical experience that isn't taught in school, they missed out on.

25 years later, a few of us that were willing to eat #### and grin in the glorified intern roles are all successful in this business. The rest of my graduating class that refused to do the entry-level work all washed out. I don't think any of them live in the state anymore, they've all moved back home and manage the office supply closet for accounting firms or are shift leads at the local Target.
 
“How can I make sure I'm eating well and seeing my friends and taking time for my hobbies? How am I supposed to fit my whole life into a 9-to-5 work schedule?” Lol. I’m assuming most this age aren’t this self unaware.
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I have this same internal conversation whenever I am swamped at work and am actually doing a legit 9-5 sort of thing. 9-5 sucks. We shouldn't **** on people who strive to not do that for the next 40 years of their lives
Really? If you’re in your first year of work and you’re crying about working 9-5 I don’t think you know how good you have it. No overnights, no weekends, no getting up at 4 am. Working in an office in a YMCA. No 100 degree heat, no 30 degrees outside. Give me a break.
 
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Blah blah blah

-It sounds arrogant to read posts of people that want to just up and quit because they are required to work in the office. I doubt many of you actually work harder at home or get more done to whoever owns or runs your company as the CEO. To me it's like the FBGs who proclaim great things charging up $5,000-$10,000 a month on high interest credit cards because they pay it all off and get free limos and Gulfstreams to take them around everywhere so they can pick up free groceries but the reality is a lot of this country is in debt and credit cards should not be in the hands of most average Americans.

Blah blah blah

Serious question... how intoxicated were you when you wrote this?
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
you're either in the wrong industry or wrong company or both. many people have a great and successful career without doing that dude.
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.

Gates thinks we could reduce the work week by 40% - I’m sure he’s pulling some of these numbers out of his ***. I do find it interesting that one of the companies investing so heavily in AI is saying AI won’t take jobs. It’s demonstrably false AI won’t take some peoples jobs - what is less clear is if the overall number of jobs will be reduced.

No matter, we spend too much of our lives working and not enough time helping others and spending time with friends and family.

ETA - forgot the link https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-comments-3-day-work-week-possible-ai-2023-11?amp
 
“How can I make sure I'm eating well and seeing my friends and taking time for my hobbies? How am I supposed to fit my whole life into a 9-to-5 work schedule?” Lol. I’m assuming most this age aren’t this self unaware.
:shrug:

I have this same internal conversation whenever I am swamped at work and am actually doing a legit 9-5 sort of thing. 9-5 sucks. We shouldn't **** on people who strive to not do that for the next 40 years of their lives
It's refreshing. I'm rarely in the office before 8, there beyond 4, and take an hour and a half lunch to workout. I usually get in 40some hours, but meetings aside it's on my terms. I think more should consider embracing a more flexible model.
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
I'm not a BigLaw lawyer anymore, but my colleagues that remain there have seemingly endless stories of insanely entitled new attorneys in the 24-27 age range. That generation, at least in that specific employment setting, is objectively the worst ever. Fortunately I've worked with new attorneys in other capacities that are solid and industrious, so like many things, it depends on the context I guess.
 
Gates thinks we could reduce the work week by 40% - I’m sure he’s pulling some of these numbers out of his ***. I do find it interesting that one of the companies investing so heavily in AI is saying AI won’t take jobs. It’s demonstrably false AI won’t take some peoples jobs - what is less clear is if the overall number of jobs will be reduced.
Says the 75 year old multibillionaire. Dollars to doughnuts that dude worked 80+ hours a week from age 20-40 to build Microsoft.

I call shenanigans on that whole article.
 
Gates thinks we could reduce the work week by 40% - I’m sure he’s pulling some of these numbers out of his ***. I do find it interesting that one of the companies investing so heavily in AI is saying AI won’t take jobs. It’s demonstrably false AI won’t take some peoples jobs - what is less clear is if the overall number of jobs will be reduced.
Says the 75 year old multibillionaire. Dollars to doughnuts that dude worked 80+ hours a week from age 20-40 to build Microsoft.

I call shenanigans on that whole article.

I agree - I don’t ever see people like Gates allowing their employees to enjoy more of their life at their potential detriment.
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
I'm not a BigLaw lawyer anymore, but my colleagues that remain there have seemingly endless stories of insanely entitled new attorneys in the 24-27 age range. That generation, at least in that specific employment setting, is objectively the worst ever. Fortunately I've worked with new attorneys in other capacities that are solid and industrious, so like many things, it depends on the context I guess.
How people can’t see that every generation that comes after them are “the worst ever” always amazes me. Those same lawyers would have been complaining about the hippies in the 70’s or the beatniks in the 50’s or the whoever in the whenever.
 
Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
I'm not a BigLaw lawyer anymore, but my colleagues that remain there have seemingly endless stories of insanely entitled new attorneys in the 24-27 age range. That generation, at least in that specific employment setting, is objectively the worst ever. Fortunately I've worked with new attorneys in other capacities that are solid and industrious, so like many things, it depends on the context I guess.
How people can’t see that every generation that comes after them are “the worst ever” always amazes me. Those same lawyers would have been complaining about the hippies in the 70’s or the beatniks in the 50’s or the whoever in the whenever.
There's always complaining about the younger generation, but to my knowledge the behavior I'm talking about is unprecedented (summer associates, who law students with basically 10 week job interviews at firms, making ridiculous demands [not requests] of their employers, things like that). Big firm largesse has always gone in cycles but I'm told the sense of entitlement with this group breaks the mold.
 
I'll share what some of you don't want to hear or must have jobs that are outside of what I'm going to share.

-Mrs and I went back to Univ of Miami after a 6-7 year stint at a smaller non-profit in Palm Beach. Even thru the pandemic, the Palm Beach spot, they were in the office a lot and the President was very involved with staff, didn't allow for more than a 3-2 ratio of in office and at home, always wanting to get folks back fully in the office and felt strongly that production suffered. I'm talking after the vaccines.

-FF to the new/old spot and the first thing we encountered were staff that we'll say are below the 6 figure level-Admin Asst in one form or another, lot of fancy titles these days that mean the same thing...but they were always sick and stayed home often. There were very few folks who regularly showed up and the work/production was bad, my wife and I gave them every opp to show their true colors. Emails not answered for 24-48+ hours on some of the most simplest of tasks, unacceptable. Don't answer their phones when they are called as they work out of their home, unacceptable. Anything that differs from what unfolds in the office is unacceptable. Mrs and I work 3 days a week out of the home office and I can promise you that we don't stop from about sun up to sun down in the evening. All calls and emails are handled promptly

-We have had to move some folks on their way, luckily the ones we had the most issues with decided to voluntarily quit! It doesn't get much easier than watching someone with a terrible work ethic and attitude quit...you don't even have to offer unemployment or deal with any potential HR issues, it's great.

-Our experience has been most folks who stayed home thru the pandemic and never returned to full time back in the office, they cause disruptions when they are being forced back into the office, they tend to be terrible workers in terms of production.

-It sounds arrogant to read posts of people that want to just up and quit because they are required to work in the office. I doubt many of you actually work harder at home or get more done to whoever owns or runs your company as the CEO. To me it's like the FBGs who proclaim great things charging up $5,000-$10,000 a month on high interest credit cards because they pay it all off and get free limos and Gulfstreams to take them around everywhere so they can pick up free groceries but the reality is a lot of this country is in debt and credit cards should not be in the hands of most average Americans.

If you could trust humans then you wouldn't need police, that's the truth. Not everyone follows the law or follows the rules without some consequences in place to deter them.
People need to be held accountable, that's a lot harder to measure when they are just sitting at home on Zoom calls and not even showing their face, just a background so they can sit in their jammies all day.

Humans tend to do the wrong thing when they have access/a choice in making bad decisions and if you think every person working at home is more productive then they would be under the thumb of their boss at a traditional office or cubical then I think you are fooling yourselves.

If you have a cushy WFH and feel like you've made it in this world and can do 8 hours of work in the actual 1-2 hours you now sit at a desk or couch at home, be my guest.
But to act as though production is better with everyone working from home is a bunch of nonsense
Anyone who is actually witnessing it first hand and has to manage/lead teams can see it.

And if you must know, the University seems to be pushing people back into their home office, they are sizing down work spaces for each department and team, where we might go 2 days a week down to Miami, they want us maybe 1 day every other week for the bigger meetings.

So in the end I'm telling you it's more productive working in an office with good leadership vs working from a home office and yet...
We're going to be working from home even more than we already are now, SMH
Glad you aren’t my CEO. Fact is I always get more done at home than at an office. Nobody stops in BS’s while I’m working. I’m not going out to lunch. I have energy to work at night when I need to because I’m not ravaged with an hour commute.

Your mentality is what is wrong with leadership. Do some people slack when working remote? Sure. Then fire them. Don’t penalize everyone else. Trust but verify.

I do think some roles are better suited for an office. I think teams writing code are better when together when they can whiteboard to solve problems etc. Also in house outbound sales functions. SDR’s/BDR’s. Important for them to be in a bullpen earlier in their career. Listen to others having conversations, etc. Better for their sales career development. But with technology today most other jobs can be done perfectly well remotely. Trust but verify
 
Glad you aren’t my CEO. Fact is I always get more done at home than at an office. Nobody stops in BS’s while I’m working. I’m not going out to lunch. I have energy to work at night when I need to because I’m not ravaged with an hour commute.

Your mentality is what is wrong with leadership. Do some people slack when working remote? Sure. Then fire them. Don’t penalize everyone else. Trust but verify.

I do think some roles are better suited for an office. I think teams writing code are better when together when they can whiteboard to solve problems etc. Also in house outbound sales functions. SDR’s/BDR’s. Important for them to be in a bullpen earlier in their career. Listen to others having conversations, etc. Better for their sales career development. But with technology today most other jobs can be done perfectly well remotely. Trust but verify
I work in a lab so the work from home thing is largely a non sequitur, but I can say emphatically that Teams/Webex has substantially curtailed the travel I used to do. Remote meetings rule.
 
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Nobody HAS to work 9-5.
Wait until these kids realize that 9-5 is the minimum. To advance and get to a decent income it takes something like 8-7. I've been doing 2800 hour years for a long, long time now.

That said, most of the new grads aren't anything like the whine monster in the article. Gen Z somehow gets a bad rap - not sure why as the young folks we have are very industrious.
I'm not a BigLaw lawyer anymore, but my colleagues that remain there have seemingly endless stories of insanely entitled new attorneys in the 24-27 age range. That generation, at least in that specific employment setting, is objectively the worst ever. Fortunately I've worked with new attorneys in other capacities that are solid and industrious, so like many things, it depends on the context I guess.
How people can’t see that every generation that comes after them are “the worst ever” always amazes me. Those same lawyers would have been complaining about the hippies in the 70’s or the beatniks in the 50’s or the whoever in the whenever.
There's always complaining about the younger generation, but to my knowledge the behavior I'm talking about is unprecedented (summer associates, who law students with basically 10 week job interviews at firms, making ridiculous demands [not requests] of their employers, things like that). Big firm largesse has always gone in cycles but I'm told the sense of entitlement with this group breaks the mold.
Maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon now, but I see a bifurcation in kids these days. I see some/most have the same drive to have a sense of purpose and do something. Then I see what used to be our slackers who are now way, way overboard and entitled. A big difference in degree with this slice. Luckily I deal almost exclusively with left brain folks, so don't see the demanding entitled emotional kids for the most part.
 
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Strong arguments here that Gen X are worst parents ever.

Yup. Gex X got to stay out until the streetlights came on, and (ironically) wear that like a badge of honor. But as soon as they had kids, they started supervised playdates and demanded participation trophies. I never had kids, so I'm innocent in all this, but my peers... man, you all got weird.
 
Company just announced that all employees are to return to the office 2-3 days a week starting February.

The announcement went over like a lead balloon.
 
Plus the uncompensated time for commute that isn't unsubstantial for some. Wasting 1-2 hours/day commuting that goes unpaid adds up. That, alone, is enough for people to advocate for WFH even if their actual productivity remains unchanged from home or from the office.
You're also saving money on gas, lunches, dress clothes/dry cleaning, dog walkers, etc. by not commuting each day.

So, I lose money on the days I go to the office versus working at home (not net obviously but compared to days I'm home).
Throw on a 3% city wage tax for me too.
 
Company just announced that all employees are to return to the office 2-3 days a week starting February.

The announcement went over like a lead balloon.
What's your sense on how it plays out? Everyone grumbles but complies? Will they lose people?
Most will comply. But they'll definitely lose some people.

However, it's a multi gazillion dollar international corporation, so they won't care.
 
My company moved to 2 days in the office starting this year. And its the same 2 days for everyone (Tuesdays and Wednesdays) for collaborative purposes. Only problem is there are not enough desks for everyone on our designated floor. So if you do not reserve a desk well in advance all the desks on our designated floor will be taken. Instead you would need to reserve a workstation on ANOTHER floor, basically sitting BY YOURSELF not with my team. There goes the collaboration.
 
My company moved to 2 days in the office starting this year. And its the same 2 days for everyone (Tuesdays and Wednesdays) for collaborative purposes. Only problem is there are not enough desks for everyone on our designated floor. So if you do not reserve a desk well in advance all the desks on our designated floor will be taken. Instead you would need to reserve a workstation on ANOTHER floor, basically sitting BY YOURSELF not with my team. There goes the collaboration.
Will you at least all be using the same water cooler?
 
are there so many remote jobs now that it's easy for people to just quit and find another job that allow them to stay home all the time? where do you find these jobs? or, i guess it depends on ur industry and geo location.

how many of you are a W-2 employee who still work 100% from home? I been back in the office 3 days a week for over a year already and two people I know just got canned for not wanting to come back, though they both had moved pretty far away.
 
My company moved to 2 days in the office starting this year. And its the same 2 days for everyone (Tuesdays and Wednesdays) for collaborative purposes. Only problem is there are not enough desks for everyone on our designated floor. So if you do not reserve a desk well in advance all the desks on our designated floor will be taken. Instead you would need to reserve a workstation on ANOTHER floor, basically sitting BY YOURSELF not with my team. There goes the collaboration.

I've been back to 2 days/week (Monday/Thursday) for the past year or so since those are the days my small team decided we'd be in the office... even if two of our team (Director and Assistant Director are both remote employees). I end up also coming in a third day (Wednesday), because no one is here for the most part and I end up getting a ton of work done where it's nice and quiet with no distractions from kids, dog, wanting to just lay down and nap, etc.

My company used to provide free lunches on Tuesdays/Thursday but have now cut that to just Tuesdays and one Thursday a month (when we have our company-wide meeting). And that sucks 'cuz I never come in on Tuesdays (can't, it's my errand/kid duty day).

So the whole 2 day a week thing is pretty much lip service to appear like we're sticking to "company policy".
 
are there so many remote jobs now that it's easy for people to just quit and find another job that allow them to stay home all the time? where do you find these jobs? or, i guess it depends on ur industry and geo location.

how many of you are a W-2 employee who still work 100% from home? I been back in the office 3 days a week for over a year already and two people I know just got canned for not wanting to come back, though they both had moved pretty far away.
I am still 100% work from home, but I’m out of state for my current position. My team gets together monthly for lunch for the people who live in Michigan. They do team events 3-5 times a year. My boss mentioned coming to one in late February - we agreed that summer would work out better. My son is a sophomore in high school - I’d consider other roles after he graduates.
 
are there so many remote jobs now that it's easy for people to just quit and find another job that allow them to stay home all the time? where do you find these jobs? or, i guess it depends on ur industry and geo location.

how many of you are a W-2 employee who still work 100% from home? I been back in the office 3 days a week for over a year already and two people I know just got canned for not wanting to come back, though they both had moved pretty far away.
The wife and I both still WFH 100% of the time. At this point it would feel weird going into an office. I do miss some of the social aspects though.
 

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