larry_boy_44
Footballguy
Its supposed to be an awesome game...However, no matter how awesome it is, I can't see it being anything but trashed in the puzzle category....
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Greatest Video Game Draft 2011 (1 Viewer)
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madshot31
Footballguy
Love that movie. :death to copy machine:BTW, you DO know that we have a minimum of 15 pieces of flare, but we encourage our drafters to add 37 pieces of flare to their draft selections.Can I send you my picks even though I'll be here?I have been meaning to add flare to my selections but by the time I get caught up on editing in the first four posts its my pick again.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I don't remember any kind or judging being done in the last one...I did just compare teams, though...overlap = Chrono Trigger, FFVI, Marve vs. Capcom 2, FF Tactics, and FFIV....Larry, how did you fair in the last one? I seem to remember your obsession with Chrono Trigger being your downfall there as well. Or did I just imagine the whole thing.maybe some of it...But I like re-writing it every time its necessary...You mean you don't have one on file?I should probably start writing my dissertation on why my team of Video Games is the best team of video games, shouldn't I?
Did we do any kind of judging with the last one though?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman".Love that movie. :death to copy machine:BTW, you DO know that we have a minimum of 15 pieces of flare, but we encourage our drafters to add 37 pieces of flare to their draft selections.Can I send you my picks even though I'll be here?
Bogart
Footballguy
Maybe there was not judging the last time. But yeah, I remember your Chrono Trigger/FF lovefest being really hard to defend.I am very interested to see what you plan on pulling out for Third Generation, the category I am judging. Some slim pickings, but some nice surprises still out there.I don't remember any kind or judging being done in the last one...I did just compare teams, though...overlap = Chrono Trigger, FFVI, Marve vs. Capcom 2, FF Tactics, and FFIV....Larry, how did you fair in the last one? I seem to remember your obsession with Chrono Trigger being your downfall there as well. Or did I just imagine the whole thing.maybe some of it...But I like re-writing it every time its necessary...You mean you don't have one on file?I should probably start writing my dissertation on why my team of Video Games is the best team of video games, shouldn't I?
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I am not a fan of the XBox but I can appreciate some games they have are good. You know the lady you see walking around the mall with a beehive hairdo or one still wearing clothes from the 80's because she thinks she is cool or in style? You know that one? This team reminds me of one of those ladies. Same pants, shoes, dresses, hair ties, whatever else because she is trapped. larry is completely trapped and what is sad is the draft a couple of years ago, the overlap that he does have, did not change much. ITS A TRAP!!
laryy_boy_44
Arcade(1) Donkey Kong (4.04)
Arcade(2) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 - Arcade (8.04)
Third Generation (1983-1990)
Fourth Generation (1987-1995) Final Fantasy IV/II - SNES (6.04)
Fifth Generation (1993-2001) Final Fantasy IX - PS1 (15.10)
Sixth Generation (1998-2009)
Seventh Generation (2005-Present) Mario Galaxy 2 - Wii (5.10)
FPS/TPS Wolfenstein 3-D - PC (10.04)
Sports Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven '11 - PS3 (13.10)
Strategy/RTS Final Fantasy Tactis - PS1 (16.04)
Racing Excite Bike (9.10)
Puzzle Bejeweled 2 - PC (7.10)
Fighter Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Wii (11.10)
Action/Adventure Myst - PC (14.04)
Platformer Super Mario 64 - N64 (3.10)
Hack and Slash/Beat 'em Up
Role Playing Chrono Trigger - SNES (1.10)
Suspense/Horror
Best Multiplayer
Best Story Final Fantasy VI/III - SNES (2.04)
Best Main Character(1) Cecil Harvey (17.10)
Best Main Character(2) Cloud Strife (18.04)
Best Villain(1) Kefka (12.04)
Best Villain(2)
Worst Game
Flex Video Game(1)
Flex Video Game(2)
laryy_boy_44
Arcade(1) Donkey Kong (4.04)
Arcade(2) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 - Arcade (8.04)
Third Generation (1983-1990)
Fourth Generation (1987-1995) Final Fantasy IV/II - SNES (6.04)
Fifth Generation (1993-2001) Final Fantasy IX - PS1 (15.10)
Sixth Generation (1998-2009)
Seventh Generation (2005-Present) Mario Galaxy 2 - Wii (5.10)
FPS/TPS Wolfenstein 3-D - PC (10.04)
Sports Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven '11 - PS3 (13.10)
Strategy/RTS Final Fantasy Tactis - PS1 (16.04)
Racing Excite Bike (9.10)
Puzzle Bejeweled 2 - PC (7.10)
Fighter Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Wii (11.10)
Action/Adventure Myst - PC (14.04)
Platformer Super Mario 64 - N64 (3.10)
Hack and Slash/Beat 'em Up
Role Playing Chrono Trigger - SNES (1.10)
Suspense/Horror
Best Multiplayer
Best Story Final Fantasy VI/III - SNES (2.04)
Best Main Character(1) Cecil Harvey (17.10)
Best Main Character(2) Cloud Strife (18.04)
Best Villain(1) Kefka (12.04)
Best Villain(2)
Worst Game
Flex Video Game(1)
Flex Video Game(2)
SlaX
Footballguy
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
18.11 - Super Columbine Massacre RPG - Worst Game
I don't care what sort of social commentary or introspection you're trying to promote - this is simply not a subject matter for a video game wherein you participate as one of the two killers. I like this review:
I don't care what sort of social commentary or introspection you're trying to promote - this is simply not a subject matter for a video game wherein you participate as one of the two killers. I like this review:
And the addition of the word "Super" to the title is also beyond ridiculous to me. Is this a regular old Columbine Massacre? No sir! This is a SUPER Columbine Massacre!
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
See, I find this ridiculous...How in the world do you expect someone's favorite old school video game to change over time?Its not like there are magically going to be brand new SNES games to find and realize that they are great... We already have everything we're gonna have on these systems... The top games are the top games and that isn't going to change...The games I loved from the SNES and PSX and N64 are going to be the same games now as they were 2 years ago and they'll be the same games in 10 years as they are now... As will most of our choices from these generations...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Not...
SlaX
Footballguy
It's possible. You can always go back and play games you missed and realize they were outstanding and better than some of your old favorites. Or perhaps play one of your old favorites and realize it wasn't as good as you remember it. It happens.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I look at it this way. If I had never played video games before and I was to only pick one team's games to play, which team am I going to pick? There has to be variety, replayability, fun, and whatever else. Essentially, some games are the same game over and over with just a different story. That gets boring. Or, another way of looking at it is if I was on an island with only one team's games to play for the rest of my life, which team will it be?
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
agreed.However, there is quite a lot overlap between the two.Plus, if anything, Final Fantasy IV, VI, Tactics, and Chrono Trigger are REGULARLY critially acclaimed and put in top 25/50/100 lists of all time, still today. IX is the only one that could possibly be considered a reach, but even that one is bordering on most of those lists (and since this draft is like 300 games deep, it fits)
madshot31
Footballguy
That is exactly how I'm gong about it. I like certain genres much more than others, but you have to switch it up so things don't get stale.
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
truthfully? I would pick mine...I have played FFVI and Chrono Trigger at minimum every other year or so since they were released... Final Fantasy IV every 2-3 years... consistently...I've played through FFIX like 4 times since it came out...and I'm not even close to the only one as is evidenced by the fact that IV, VI, and Chrono Trigger have been released 4-5+ times already with more remakes/re-releases of the same exact game with the same exact engine and only slightly enhanced graphics at best still coming... I mean IV has been on the SNES, PSX, Wonderswan Color, GBA, Nintendo DX, Virtual Console, and soon the PSP. 7 different re-releases. And everytime it is released millions of people worldwide flock to stores and buy it (many of them for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, some even the 7th time)...Its not like I'm picking random games that don't have critical appeal and don't have legitimicy here. They are legit games that belong in this group, and they are critically acclaimed, all time great games. This is re-affirmed time and time again when greatest games lists are released and they appear on it.
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SlaX
Footballguy
oh, is it his turn. hold on. I was away.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
12. biggamer3
13. pollardsvision
ROUND 19
1. pollardsvision
2. biggamer3
3. Andy Dufresne
4. madshot31
5. AcerFC
6. AcerFC
7. wazoo11
8. bmarks6161
9. Slax
10. larry_boy_44
11. rikishiboy
12. Mario Kart
13. BlueDredSo
13. pollardsvision
ROUND 19
1. pollardsvision
2. biggamer3
3. Andy Dufresne
4. madshot31
5. AcerFC
6. AcerFC
7. wazoo11
8. bmarks6161
9. Slax
10. larry_boy_44
11. rikishiboy
12. Mario Kart
13. BlueDredSo
SlaX
Footballguy
biggamer's pick
18.12 Left 4 Dead 2, Survival Horror, (he didn't specify for PC or X360)
Left 4 Dead 2 Movie Intro - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDl-41BlZA
18.12 Left 4 Dead 2, Survival Horror, (he didn't specify for PC or X360)
Left 4 Dead 2 Movie Intro - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDl-41BlZA
madshot31
Footballguy
Pollardsvision selects,
18.13 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse (NES) 3rd Generation
19.01 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (XBOX 360) Best Multiplayer
I realize I've just punted the Multiplayer category, but I still think this game is unfairly criticized. Millions and millions played it and, for most part, had a ball. Some let grenade launchers, over powered killstreaks and commando ruin it for them, but it generally took them about 80 hours of playing it to get fed up. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it was for a hell of alot of people. Plenty of flaws, but not being fun isn't one of them. It may be the *******-child of 7th Gen games, but ultimately, it's twitch/arcade online shooting at it's finest.
The FPS market was as saturated as it's ever been, yet this game shattered sales records. Those millions bought, loved it, and now tell everyone it sucked.
18.13 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse (NES) 3rd Generation
19.01 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (XBOX 360) Best Multiplayer
I realize I've just punted the Multiplayer category, but I still think this game is unfairly criticized. Millions and millions played it and, for most part, had a ball. Some let grenade launchers, over powered killstreaks and commando ruin it for them, but it generally took them about 80 hours of playing it to get fed up. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it was for a hell of alot of people. Plenty of flaws, but not being fun isn't one of them. It may be the *******-child of 7th Gen games, but ultimately, it's twitch/arcade online shooting at it's finest.
The FPS market was as saturated as it's ever been, yet this game shattered sales records. Those millions bought, loved it, and now tell everyone it sucked.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Thanks madshot.I had to get my MW2 rant in somewhere.Castlevania III, btw, was an absolute steal this late. I think I have a real player in 3rd gen. now, and can use Tyson for something else.No rush or anything, but when you get a chance, you can probably go ahead and put Tyson in "Fighter". I could maybe weasle it in as a Beat'em Up, but I'd assume the judge would take points off since it's so far from what most would consider a Beat'em Up.Anybody think it'd get downgraded in "Fighter" too? It clearly works in the category, but has a far different feel than those others. Still might put Tyson in 3rd or Sports and shuffle some things around, but Tyson won't be in "Hack/Slash/Beat'em UP".
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madshot31
Footballguy
No problem. MW2 is my favorite CoD to date and I enjoyed the multiplayer. But I'm a gearhead at heart. :chainsaw:Fun fact: It's kind of funny that the chainsaw is what Gears of War is known for, but yet it is the weakest weapon in the game if you are good.
SlaX
Footballguy
I prefer CoD4 more to MW2, but I don't hate MW2. It's still a fun game and I pop it in when I feel like playing it. Every multiplayer game has its overpowered, overused weapon that people cry over. It's nothing new.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
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wazoo11
Footballguy
I don't even think its the best of those two you mentioned.
SlaX
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I have had this one in mind for a long time... before the PSX version was picked actually. But, I know I have a strong 3rd Gen game already and did not know where I could put this one other than platformer. Maybe story.
AcerFC
Footballguy
Unfortunately, I played alone and was just too rinse and repeat for me. Was fun for the year or so I playedHoly ####!
SlaX
Footballguy
It did get a little old after a while. Teaming and doing task force missions livened things up. Now they've added crafting and all sorts of things to the game to give it more life. It's surprising that it is still going strong in a market full of MMO's trying to compete with the WoW juggernaut. It's funny to think that CoH came first.Also in comparison to Wow, it's a more friendly game. For people new to the game, you're likely to find someone to help you learn to play. Try finding that in WoW.Unfortunately, I played alone and was just too rinse and repeat for me. Was fun for the year or so I playedHoly ####!
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
I am assuming we are in Round 19... could someone quickly update this:ROUND 191. pollardsvision2. biggamer33. Andy Dufresne4. madshot315. AcerFC6. AcerFC7. wazoo118. bmarks61619. Slax10. larry_boy_4411. rikishiboy12. Mario Kart13. BlueDredSo
madshot31
Footballguy
Wait I guess. Slax, did biggamer give you only two picks or more? I'm adding the auto skips to the first post.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
for those that think those Final Fantasy/Square games are reaches, here are some top 100 lists of varying credibility on the internet and their rankings of a select few Square/FF games (note: I didn't keep track of all Square games on list, I'm also only going to publish already picked games)
http://top100.ign.com/2005/001-010.html
88 - FFVII
56 - FFVI
48 - Secret of Mana
26 - FFIV
13 - Chrono Trigger
http://microsites.ign.com/kfc/top99games/10.html
69 - Secret of Mana
29 - FFVII
20 - FFVI
4 - Chrono Trigger
http://top100.ign.com/2008/
30 - FFVII
14 - FFVI
2 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.old-wizard.com/top-100-video-games-of-all-time
46 - FFIV
35 - FFVII
7 - Secret of Mana
6 - FFVI
3 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/tag/the-to...ames-ever-made/
11 - FFVII
2 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.angelfire.com/co4/colin_gaea/gi100.htm
77 - Secret of Mana
40 - FFIV
15 - Chrono Trigger
10 - FFVII
7 - FFVI
http://fandomania.com/100-video-games/
45 - Final Fantasy Tactics
20 - Chrono Trigger
13 - Final Fantasy VI
2 - FFVII
I'm not saying these are the top 6 games of all time, but to act like the Final Fantasy series isn't one of the greatest in gaming history and its best games don't belong in this draft is ridiculous... So what if I happen to have 4 of these games on my "team", that's like saying you have too many RBs in Fantasy Football...
The fact is that the games DESERVED to be drafted and it isn't like I was reaching for them, i picked them late. So, yeah, if you hate JRPGs you wouldn't like being stuck on a desert island with my team (although if you could learn to love them you'd have easily 400 hours of gameplay with the RPGs alone on one play through)...But that doesn't make the picks not worthy, they are VERY worthy picks...
http://top100.ign.com/2005/001-010.html
88 - FFVII
56 - FFVI
48 - Secret of Mana
26 - FFIV
13 - Chrono Trigger
http://microsites.ign.com/kfc/top99games/10.html
69 - Secret of Mana
29 - FFVII
20 - FFVI
4 - Chrono Trigger
http://top100.ign.com/2008/
30 - FFVII
14 - FFVI
2 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.old-wizard.com/top-100-video-games-of-all-time
46 - FFIV
35 - FFVII
7 - Secret of Mana
6 - FFVI
3 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/tag/the-to...ames-ever-made/
11 - FFVII
2 - Chrono Trigger
http://www.angelfire.com/co4/colin_gaea/gi100.htm
77 - Secret of Mana
40 - FFIV
15 - Chrono Trigger
10 - FFVII
7 - FFVI
http://fandomania.com/100-video-games/
45 - Final Fantasy Tactics
20 - Chrono Trigger
13 - Final Fantasy VI
2 - FFVII
I'm not saying these are the top 6 games of all time, but to act like the Final Fantasy series isn't one of the greatest in gaming history and its best games don't belong in this draft is ridiculous... So what if I happen to have 4 of these games on my "team", that's like saying you have too many RBs in Fantasy Football...
The fact is that the games DESERVED to be drafted and it isn't like I was reaching for them, i picked them late. So, yeah, if you hate JRPGs you wouldn't like being stuck on a desert island with my team (although if you could learn to love them you'd have easily 400 hours of gameplay with the RPGs alone on one play through)...But that doesn't make the picks not worthy, they are VERY worthy picks...
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wazoo11
Footballguy
19.07 best story- Max Payne (PC)
"The story is dark, edgy, and memorable—the kind of thing you won’t soon forget. Much of it is told through sequences of stylistic comic-book pages, adding to the old film noir feel and drawing you into the plot. The main character, Max, is compelling and sympathetic, and you’ll find yourself living inside his head and feeling his pains and successes. Though you don’t have a lot of choices, the storyline more than makes up for that lack with numerous twists and surprises. It’s not a long game, but its complexity (particularly for a shooter) makes it well worth the ride."
"The story is dark, edgy, and memorable—the kind of thing you won’t soon forget. Much of it is told through sequences of stylistic comic-book pages, adding to the old film noir feel and drawing you into the plot. The main character, Max, is compelling and sympathetic, and you’ll find yourself living inside his head and feeling his pains and successes. Though you don’t have a lot of choices, the storyline more than makes up for that lack with numerous twists and surprises. It’s not a long game, but its complexity (particularly for a shooter) makes it well worth the ride."
SlaX
Footballguy
I have 2 more picks, assuming they don't get taken.
Insein
Footballguy
Many MANY hours spent on this one. It had THRAWN!!!!
bmarks6161
Footballguy
19.08 Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty - PC - Flex
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Never played this one but the other one is darn good.
SlaX
Footballguy
19.09 Grim Fandango, Best Story, PC 1998
You play Manny Calavera, a mid-level worker at the the DOD (Department of Death) who's trying to work off his sins in life so that he can get to his final reward. As a reaper, Manny frees incoming souls from their shrouds, finds out what kind of underworld travel packages their goodness in life has earned them, and then sends them on their way.
Unfortunately, business hasn't been very good for Manny of late. As the game begins, Calavera is told that he must sell a premium travel package to a soul or lose his job. In his search, Manny uncovers a hideous plot, a beautiful woman, and a crew of loyal friends (not necessarily in that order). The world is a rich one, complete with its own laws, its own personality types, and landscapes.
The game has received multiple awards and been placed on the top of many top games lists throughout the years, including best pc game, most underrated game of all-time and best story. Of course, the latter, in this case, is for the judge to decide.
Game Trailer -
You play Manny Calavera, a mid-level worker at the the DOD (Department of Death) who's trying to work off his sins in life so that he can get to his final reward. As a reaper, Manny frees incoming souls from their shrouds, finds out what kind of underworld travel packages their goodness in life has earned them, and then sends them on their way.
Unfortunately, business hasn't been very good for Manny of late. As the game begins, Calavera is told that he must sell a premium travel package to a soul or lose his job. In his search, Manny uncovers a hideous plot, a beautiful woman, and a crew of loyal friends (not necessarily in that order). The world is a rich one, complete with its own laws, its own personality types, and landscapes.
The game has received multiple awards and been placed on the top of many top games lists throughout the years, including best pc game, most underrated game of all-time and best story. Of course, the latter, in this case, is for the judge to decide.
Game Trailer -
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