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Greg Jennings Game Log (1 Viewer)
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I believe drafting "safer" guys in the first 1-2 rounds is a more practical way to play, and then I'll add risk as the rounds grow later. A boom/bust guy in Round 2 may be OK for some people (and paid off for A. Foster drafters last year) but quite often you will be burned, IMHO. I'll take a guy with a proven track record and a high floor in Rounds 1-3 knowing that I'll get solid production all year. If he has a great playoff schedule as well, then all the better. My goal is to hope for no injuries and know that I'll be a playoff contender in a given league.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Of the top 20 top ranked WRs, his consensus ranking differs the most from my ranking...a difference of 8 spots.I have him ranked 13, the consensus is about #5.I think most fantasy guys would say he is a top 10 NFL WR, I don't think he is anyhwere close. Hence, he's overrated for non fantasy purposes.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I think your rankings and reasoning have been shown to be...well...bad.You don't think he is anywhere close to being a top 10 NFL WR. You think his entire skill set is mediocre.Yet you want people to take you seriously?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Your opinions have been noted. We obviously disagree.
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2 of Jennings 7 redzone TD's were in the 4 games Finley played. At that rate, Jennings would score 8 redzone TD's in a season. Add in 3-5 20+ yard TD's and there is your 11-13 TD's.Lets not forget the 21 TD's he scored in 2007 and 2008.'Eminence said:
Nobody runs that quick slant better than Jennings, you dont have to be a 6'5" WR/TE to be a good redzone/goalline targets.
There are two things i know about the Packers offense, and thats Rodgers is going to put up big passing numbers and that Finley and Jennings will be on the field almost every play. Unless you think one of the other WR's is going to play instead of Jennings, it doesnt matter how many guys they have, they can only have some many on the field at one time.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
So again, I ask you. What happened in games 2-5?
sho nuff
Footballguy
He was still a redzone target and caught two TDs.And so again we ask...what do you not understand about a team who was struggling offensively early on while focusing on Finley...will not likely make that same mistake again and ignore a guy like Jennings?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
that's fantasy ranking, not NFL WR ranking. Two different things being discussed in this thread.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
how many yards did he average in those games?Let's not play games Sho Nuff...you're wasting everybody's time when you do stuff like that.
i wondered when the patented LHUCKS backpeddle would start. now it's your drafting style, and not his mediocre play that makes you think he's the most overrated WR in the NFL.btw, 1100+ yards would've put him anywhere from 7th-11th in the league last year before anyone who hit 1200. it's already been mentioned he was 4th last year and that was all while overcoming the 5 stinkers that you are proclaiming.
Post #1 mentions both.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
no backpeddle here...I still think he's overrated(both in ff and as an NFL WR) and I still think he has mediocre skills.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
Yep, I think he's overrated in both circumstances.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Says the guy parsing quotes...ignoring evidence...and so on and on and on.BTW...I was unaware that yards were the only metric we were to be using.
sho nuff
Footballguy
And your are entitled that that completely incorrect opinion of him.BTW...were you not just denying he had mediocre skills on the last page before you ignored where both I and APK pointed out your words to you?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Never denied that.
sho nuff
Footballguy
You denied that you did not believe he was a good route runner or had good hands.Were called out on it by 2 people...because you claimed he was mediocre all around.Wanting to just play semantics now?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN my word "MEDIOCRE" and your words "NOT GOOD"You're trying to put words in my mouth...leave the thread please. You are adding absolutely nothing to the thread.Everybody else here is interested in discussing Greg Jennings, you're trying to pin me down(with great failure) while foolishly attempting to make a mockery out of this thread...one of the few threads on this messageboard that actually has good analysis.Go ruin somebody else's thread. You're not wanted.LEAVE
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sho nuff
Footballguy
You made the mockery of the thread the minute you started.And you are one to talk about not being wanted.The good analysis was in all of those who have opposed you and totally proven your viewpoint to be incorrect.That you still can't see that and now can only argue the difference between mediocre and not good in order to try and weasel out of being tied down to a statement is laughable.At the end of the day...Greg Jennings is by far not even close to being the most overrated FF or real NFL WR...much less even being overrated at all.Seems 99% of the people on here and others agree he is rated just about right.
What are you looking to gain with this back and forth with LHucks? You are just encouraging him. As soon as people stop replying to his nonsense, the sooner the nonsense will go away.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Doubtful.
FavreCo
Footballguy
You have mediocre NFL scouting skills. I don't like Finley in there and noticed the big difference once he was gone but I think Jennings dropped 1 or 2 TD passes in those 1st 5 games too. Mediocre WR skills? Check his big plays throughout his career. I'm talking 20+ yard catches and the numerous huge TD's up to 80+ yards. His mediocre skills seem to be able to burn just about every DB he faces. Never seen a guy get behind the DB's so often for huge TDs.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Go back and watch games from the 1st half of the season. The Packers o-line was brutal in early 2009. It was beyond frustrating for Jennings fans - he was wide open repeatedly, but Rodgers didn't have time to throw the ball.'Eminence said:
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Still waiting for more specificity on which of his skills are underrated.....
Reaper
Footballguy
Wow... I'm a little surprised by a Tweet I just read from Greg Cossel...
Back to WR discussion. My top 5, based on skill set not stats or teams: 1. A. Johnson 2. C. Johnson 3. Jennings 4. Fitz 5. Holmes 6. White..
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I think we have been around long enough to know LUCK doesn't do projections. I tried to pin him down to some real numbers in 2004 or 2005. That never materialized. He just ranks them based on where FBGs and other sites have them then starts fishing trips about players he is unsure of. Like this thread.That is the only way he could have players ranked without having done the projections.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Absolutely none of this is true.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Surely your not calling me a liar are you?I can go to pms if they are still there if you like. Not once over the past decade have I seen you post projections.Absolutely none of this is true.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Clearly your credentials are superior to his.'Reaper said:This guy needs to be fired...stat
LHUCKS
Footballguy
looks pretty clear to me...anybody who has Jennings over Fitz needs to find a new hobby.
I pretty sure its not the guys hobby, he gets paid for it.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I could not care less, I'd put my resume/education up to his any day of the week. Fantasy writers are for the most part, let's just say, not overly sophisticated. Of course, that's just my opinion, and it's based on reading fantasy articles over the past 20 years. It only takes a tweet like the one above to remind me a lot of these guys have no clue what they're talking about.
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FavreCo
Footballguy
LOL. You are horrible at analysis. Right now the same QB's are starting for both team. Until that changes, Jennings will be watching Fitz fade back in the pack from his rear view mirror....just like last year.
You really don't know who Greg Cossel is? Hint - he's not a fantasy writer.
Reaper
Footballguy
LHUCKS
Footballguy
and he has Jennings over Fitz based on skillset.That's all I need to know.
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treat88
Footballguy
I think it's excellent to have a viewpoint that differs from the masses and is based solely on what my own eyes/analysis are telling me.That said, if my take was Jennings is not a top 50 talent at WR and Cosell's take was Jennings is a top 3 WR in the league, I would likely step back and rethink my take somewhat. We all like to fashion ourselves as at least having a casual ability to evaluate NFL talent, but when folks close to the game with actual NFL based experience provide input, to me at least, it's worth listening too. Half the battle of this hobby is knowing who to pay attention to and who to ignore. The opinions that I value don't necessarily supplant my own opinion but they do move the dial. Cosell is definitely on the list of those worth listening to.and he has Jennings over Fitz based on skillset.That's all I need to know.
sho nuff
Footballguy
And Hucks isn't?I think it's excellent to have a viewpoint that differs from the masses and is based solely on what my own eyes/analysis are telling me.That said, if my take was Jennings is not a top 50 talent at WR and Cosell's take was Jennings is a top 3 WR in the league, I would likely step back and rethink my take somewhat. We all like to fashion ourselves as at least having a casual ability to evaluate NFL talent, but when folks close to the game with actual NFL based experience provide input, to me at least, it's worth listening too. Half the battle of this hobby is knowing who to pay attention to and who to ignore. The opinions that I value don't necessarily supplant my own opinion but they do move the dial. Cosell is definitely on the list of those worth listening to.and he has Jennings over Fitz based on skillset.That's all I need to know.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Never said he wasn't top 50
I would agree witht that but the Jennings over Fitz ranking still gives me pause. I blasted the Titans front office when they drafted Chris Henry as high as they did...that auotomatically had me questioning the foks in Tennessee. Granted, I'm a huge UofA supporter and I'd seen every sorry carry of Henry's sorry collegiate career, but doesn't change the fact it was a terible pick. I know guys working in the NFL and a lot of them will tell you there is a lot of good ol boy/dumb jock types in more places than the average fan would suspect.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
Post #55 in this thread by you that is useless.LEAVEAnd Hucks isn't?
treat88
Footballguy
[QUOTE='LHUCKS]Talent wise I'd probably rank him in the top 50 WRs, that's not exactly terrible.
[/QUOTE]The "probably" made it sound like you are a little borderline on ranking him in the top 50 or that he's borderline in being in the top 50, but you are right you didn't say he's not in the top 50. Regardless, if you summarize your apparent general impression of Jennings and compare it to Cosell's apparent general impression of Jennings (regardless of where he's ranked in relation to Fitz on that list) there's obviously a large difference.I love the discussion the topic has generated, I'll just say if my opinion of a player differs dramatically from multiple opinions on my list that I value, it's my opinion I reexamine not my list.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Got it. There is definitely a large difference of opinion on this topic...which is partially why I brought it up.I've yet to find a good reason why my opinion of Jennings should change.
See you in a month. If you come back then, be way cooler.JPost #55 in this thread by you that is useless.LEAVEAnd Hucks isn't?
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A month, yipes. Which alias is his, NorrisB?See you in a month. If you come back then, be way cooler.JPost #55 in this thread by you that is useless.LEAVEAnd Hucks isn't?
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