He went to Jared (1 Viewer)

[Zasada]

EVERY KISS BEGINS WITH KAY

Another brilliant marketing campaign. Because that's what we're all in it for -- a kiss. I want a really romantic kiss and a starlit night and hugs.Effin morons. Seriously, if I'm running that company, people are getting fired.

Well they can't say "Every #### begins with Kay" but that is the implication. No guy buys diamonds thinking that they're only going to get a kiss.

 

[Shutterbug]

I'd never go to any mall store... ever. I can't believe that so many people buy from them.

They are so overpriced and their pieces so unoriginal. Maybe I just feel this way because everything is mass produced and thus, lacks originality.

Having a jeweler you know is the only way to go. You can get truly stunning stones in very impressive settings at a fraction of the price.

Also, as long as you're avoiding impulse buys, you can play the field and take advantage of "right place, right time" opportunities. It really is the only way to go.

Bottom line, if you buy jewelery with any type of regularity or frequency, you need your own jeweler that is not in a mall.

My wife and I have found some very nice custom designs/jewelers through etsy.com We tend to prefer semi-precious stones like turquoise, amber etc and settings in not-gold/not-silver/not-platinum metals (copper is big with us (my wife has coppery red hair and green eyes)).

Copper and Turquoise coin earrings by Cigar Box Earrings (done biz with them, satisfied).

Did you buy the matching necklace?

 

[Shutterbug]

I'd never go to any mall store... ever. I can't believe that so many people buy from them.

They are so overpriced and their pieces so unoriginal. Maybe I just feel this way because everything is mass produced and thus, lacks originality.

Having a jeweler you know is the only way to go. You can get truly stunning stones in very impressive settings at a fraction of the price.

Also, as long as you're avoiding impulse buys, you can play the field and take advantage of "right place, right time" opportunities. It really is the only way to go.

Bottom line, if you buy jewelery with any type of regularity or frequency, you need your own jeweler that is not in a mall.

My wife and I have found some very nice custom designs/jewelers through etsy.com We tend to prefer semi-precious stones like turquoise, amber etc and settings in not-gold/not-silver/not-platinum metals (copper is big with us (my wife has coppery red hair and green eyes)).

Copper and Turquoise coin earrings by Cigar Box Earrings (done biz with them, satisfied).

Did you buy the matching necklace?

Actually, this one is a better fit.

 

[Die]

I wonder if people got this mad about Marino's isotoner gloves.

 

[GroveDiesel]

See, this is good jewelry marketing.

 

[QUEZILLA]

See, this is good jewelry marketing.

 

[prosopis]

See, this is good jewelry marketing.

 

[The Commish]

Wait...FBG go to chain stores for the jewelry? Really?

 

[fasteddie_21]

Ya know, I went in there the other day and I will never go back. Is there a diamond/jewelry store that doesn't use high pressure sales people? I mean, I understand they work for a commission, but holy good ####...If/when I find a place that the sales people are there to HELP me, that's who I'll buy from.

There are few things worse, imo, than high-pressure sales folk.

 

[flapgreen]

My wife bought some Dial for Men soap and I was pissed. I hate those stupid commercials

 

[flapgreen]

Ya know, I went in there the other day and I will never go back. Is there a diamond/jewelry store that doesn't use high pressure sales people? I mean, I understand they work for a commission, but holy good ####...If/when I find a place that the sales people are there to HELP me, that's who I'll buy from.There are few things worse, imo, than high-pressure sales folk.

Completely agree. Greeting me and telling me to ask help if I need anything is fine. That's it. Back off guy

 

[Zow]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials.

They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?

WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT.

I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it.

Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

 

[Zow]

God bless these commercials.

 

[-jb-]

It can only be JARED!!!

 

[BR33ZE]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

oofI didn't think it was possible for anyone to get dumber with every keystroke, but you have proven me wrong again.

 

[K-funk]

This whole thread had me rolling.

Those commercials certainly do suck!

 

[Thorn]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

 

[K-funk]

On a related note: can any of you recall any threads regarding alternatives to engagement and wedding rings? For example, did you decide to spend ring money on something else, like a house down payment, vacation, etc.?

 

[Koya]

Well I won't. Ever.Seriously. How many of you guys are so fed up with these awful commercials that you'll never, ever spend a single dollar at a Jared jewelry store. Honestly, I'd pay 100 or 1000 dollars more elsewhere just so I don't have to shop at this craphole.

Ive flat out told my girlfriend this. The ads are so pathetic, so lowest common denominator, so outright all women are whores so buy them jewelry that I'd never spend a dime there.

 

[Zow]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you. I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

 

[RudiStein]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

oofI didn't think it was possible for anyone to get dumber with every keystroke, but you have proven me wrong again.

 

[RudiStein]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you. I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

1. God forbid you think about what to give as a gift. Trust me on this one, sport. Women really, really, really love it when you give them something that proves you listen to them and think about them. "Well you said you had a jewelry box like that when you were little and I saw this at the store and..."2. Define 'cheap'. Jewelry, especially diamonds, are a total scam.3. Yeah, no.And how about not supporting something that perpetuates the idea that women should be materialistic, money grubbing whores?

 

[K-funk]

 

[Otis]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials. They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT. I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it. Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you. I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

1. God forbid you think about what to give as a gift. Trust me on this one, sport. Women really, really, really love it when you give them something that proves you listen to them and think about them. "Well you said you had a jewelry box like that when you were little and I saw this at the store and..."2. Define 'cheap'. Jewelry, especially diamonds, are a total scam.3. Yeah, no.And how about not supporting something that perpetuates the idea that women should be materialistic, money grubbing whores?

In fairness, I bought my fiance a nice engagement rock, but only because she didn't care about one in the slightest. She loves it now, but it's nothing she ever would have expected or cared for beforehand, let alone demanded (as some women do). I'm glad I did it.However, I most certainly did not go to Jared.

 

[Otis]

Please resume Tanner-->Woz smackdown.

 

[Jeremy]

Well I won't. Ever.Seriously. How many of you guys are so fed up with these awful commercials that you'll never, ever spend a single dollar at a Jared jewelry store. Honestly, I'd pay 100 or 1000 dollars more elsewhere just so I don't have to shop at this craphole.

Ive flat out told my girlfriend this. The ads are so pathetic, so lowest common denominator, so outright all women are whores so buy them jewelry that I'd never spend a dime there.

Disgusting, insulting ads.

 

[K-funk]

Good discussion.

Question: why do women who like and/or insist upon diamonds (engagement rings or other jewelry pieces) feel this way? What compels them to desire these stones? Fellow FBwomen are encouraged to respond. I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Tom Servo]

However, I most certainly did not go to Jared.

I don't believe you.

 

[Tom Servo]

Good discussion. Question: why do women who like and/or insist upon diamonds (engagement rings or other jewelry pieces) feel this way? What compels them to desire these stones? Fellow FBwomen are encouraged to respond. I'm genuinely curious.

Better yet, why is it that:Woman's best friend (supposedly) is a diamond;Man's best friend is a dog.How'd we screw that up?

 

[RudiStein]

Good discussion.

Question: why do women who like and/or insist upon diamonds (engagement rings or other jewelry pieces) feel this way? What compels them to desire these stones? Fellow FBwomen are encouraged to respond. I'm genuinely curious.

You ready?Because the diamond industry taught them to want them. DeBeers hired the advertising firm A.W. Ayer to come up with the following:

In its 1947 strategy plan, the advertising agency strongly emphasized a psychological approach. "We are dealing with a problem in mass psychology. We seek to ... strengthen the tradition of the diamond engagement ring -- to make it a psychological necessity capable of competing successfully at the retail level with utility goods and services...." It defined as its target audience "some 70 million people 15 years and over whose opinion we hope to influence in support of our objectives." N. W. Ayer outlined a subtle program that included arranging for lecturers to visit high schools across the country. "All of these lectures revolve around the diamond engagement ring, and are reaching thousands of girls in their assemblies, classes and informal meetings in our leading educational institutions," the agency explained in a memorandum to De Beers.

The agency had organized, in 1946, a weekly service called "Hollywood Personalities," which provided 125 leading newspapers with descriptions of the diamonds worn by movie stars. And it continued its efforts to encourage news coverage of celebrities displaying diamond rings as symbols of romantic involvement. In 1947, the agency commissioned a series of portraits of "engaged socialites." The idea was to create prestigious "role models" for the poorer middle-class wage-earners. The advertising agency explained, in its 1948 strategy paper, "We spread the word of diamonds worn by stars of screen and stage, by wives and daughters of political leaders, by any woman who can make the grocer's wife and the mechanic's sweetheart say 'I wish I had what she has.'"

 

[That Little Voice]

Good discussion.

Question: why do women who like and/or insist upon diamonds (engagement rings or other jewelry pieces) feel this way? What compels them to desire these stones? Fellow FBwomen are encouraged to respond. I'm genuinely curious.

You ready?Because the diamond industry taught them to want them. DeBeers hired the advertising firm A.W. Ayer to come up with the following:

In its 1947 strategy plan, the advertising agency strongly emphasized a psychological approach. "We are dealing with a problem in mass psychology. We seek to ... strengthen the tradition of the diamond engagement ring -- to make it a psychological necessity capable of competing successfully at the retail level with utility goods and services...." It defined as its target audience "some 70 million people 15 years and over whose opinion we hope to influence in support of our objectives." N. W. Ayer outlined a subtle program that included arranging for lecturers to visit high schools across the country. "All of these lectures revolve around the diamond engagement ring, and are reaching thousands of girls in their assemblies, classes and informal meetings in our leading educational institutions," the agency explained in a memorandum to De Beers.

The agency had organized, in 1946, a weekly service called "Hollywood Personalities," which provided 125 leading newspapers with descriptions of the diamonds worn by movie stars. And it continued its efforts to encourage news coverage of celebrities displaying diamond rings as symbols of romantic involvement. In 1947, the agency commissioned a series of portraits of "engaged socialites." The idea was to create prestigious "role models" for the poorer middle-class wage-earners. The advertising agency explained, in its 1948 strategy paper, "We spread the word of diamonds worn by stars of screen and stage, by wives and daughters of political leaders, by any woman who can make the grocer's wife and the mechanic's sweetheart say 'I wish I had what she has.'"

Rudi can you give me the link? Maybe its just wiki but id like to have that one at my disposal. Good stuff.

 

[bostonfred]

woz - what's the cheapest piece of jewelry you've bought for a girl?

 

[K-funk]

Just reserved two library books about the diamond and gold industries.

 

[RudiStein]

Good discussion.

Question: why do women who like and/or insist upon diamonds (engagement rings or other jewelry pieces) feel this way? What compels them to desire these stones? Fellow FBwomen are encouraged to respond. I'm genuinely curious.

You ready?Because the diamond industry taught them to want them. DeBeers hired the advertising firm A.W. Ayer to come up with the following:

In its 1947 strategy plan, the advertising agency strongly emphasized a psychological approach. "We are dealing with a problem in mass psychology. We seek to ... strengthen the tradition of the diamond engagement ring -- to make it a psychological necessity capable of competing successfully at the retail level with utility goods and services...." It defined as its target audience "some 70 million people 15 years and over whose opinion we hope to influence in support of our objectives." N. W. Ayer outlined a subtle program that included arranging for lecturers to visit high schools across the country. "All of these lectures revolve around the diamond engagement ring, and are reaching thousands of girls in their assemblies, classes and informal meetings in our leading educational institutions," the agency explained in a memorandum to De Beers.

The agency had organized, in 1946, a weekly service called "Hollywood Personalities," which provided 125 leading newspapers with descriptions of the diamonds worn by movie stars. And it continued its efforts to encourage news coverage of celebrities displaying diamond rings as symbols of romantic involvement. In 1947, the agency commissioned a series of portraits of "engaged socialites." The idea was to create prestigious "role models" for the poorer middle-class wage-earners. The advertising agency explained, in its 1948 strategy paper, "We spread the word of diamonds worn by stars of screen and stage, by wives and daughters of political leaders, by any woman who can make the grocer's wife and the mechanic's sweetheart say 'I wish I had what she has.'"

Rudi can you give me the link? Maybe its just wiki but id like to have that one at my disposal. Good stuff.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198202/diamond

 

[Zow]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials.

They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?

WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT.

I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it.

Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own

2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)

3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you.

I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

1. God forbid you think about what to give as a gift. Trust me on this one, sport. Women really, really, really love it when you give them something that proves you listen to them and think about them. "Well you said you had a jewelry box like that when you were little and I saw this at the store and..."2. Define 'cheap'. Jewelry, especially diamonds, are a total scam.

3. Yeah, no.

And how about not supporting something that perpetuates the idea that women should be materialistic, money grubbing whores?

Look, I'm not saying I like jewelry stores. But the truth is, IMO, these stores exist because women are materialistic whores. Under that assumption then the majority of girls/women are going to like jewelry. If you are fortunate enough to have found a girl who doesn't love jewelry, my hats off to you and you can be as original and thoughtful as you want. However, for the vast majority of women jewelry is a thoughtful gift. So, these stores of does us the favor in appearing "thoughtful." Think about it: the average dude, at the end of the day, probably wants a steak, fellatio, and peace and quiet as his present. Imagine now there was a steak, fellatio, and quiet day. Would you be upset or think your SO was being unthoughtful with that gift? No - you'd be happy every time, including the times you could have gotten some well-thought photo album of love book or the like.

 

[Zow]

woz - what's the cheapest piece of jewelry you've bought for a girl?

Probably about 40 bucks or so in college.

 

[Zow]

Please resume Tanner-->Woz smackdown.

"Yeah, no" is not a smackdown and Tanner is ignoring the fact that relative to some non-jewelry gifts the lowest thing in the store is much cheaper and the girl probably doesn't know it.

 

[K-funk]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials.

They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?

WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT.

I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it.

Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own

2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)

3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you.

I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

1. God forbid you think about what to give as a gift. Trust me on this one, sport. Women really, really, really love it when you give them something that proves you listen to them and think about them. "Well you said you had a jewelry box like that when you were little and I saw this at the store and..."2. Define 'cheap'. Jewelry, especially diamonds, are a total scam.

3. Yeah, no.

And how about not supporting something that perpetuates the idea that women should be materialistic, money grubbing whores?

Look, I'm not saying I like jewelry stores. But the truth is, IMO, these stores exist because women are materialistic whores. Under that assumption then the majority of girls/women are going to like jewelry. If you are fortunate enough to have found a girl who doesn't love jewelry, my hats off to you and you can be as original and thoughtful as you want. However, for the vast majority of women jewelry is a thoughtful gift. So, these stores of does us the favor in appearing "thoughtful." Think about it: the average dude, at the end of the day, probably wants a steak, fellatio, and peace and quiet as his present. Imagine now there was a steak, fellatio, and quiet day. Would you be upset or think your SO was being unthoughtful with that gift? No - you'd be happy every time, including the times you could have gotten some well-thought photo album of love book or the like.

March 14? By the way, not all women are materialistic whores. Come on, now.

 

[bentley]

Wozstrategy also requires having a girl that's dumb enough to fall for the cheapest thing at Jared. This alone is pretty limiting. If we were talking about Tiffany & Co, I'd be willing to buy it.

 

[TheAristocrat]

Please resume Tanner-->Woz smackdown.

"Yeah, no" is not a smackdown and Tanner is ignoring the fact that relative to some non-jewelry gifts the lowest thing in the store is much cheaper and the girl probably doesn't know it.

So women know lots about shopping and jewelry but can't put 2 + 2 together on your amazing gifts of iron pyrite?

 

[Jeremy]

I think some of you are missing the benefit to these commercials.

They are not geared to men, they are geared to women. So, they're being led to believe this stuff is great. Now, factor in this beneficial social requirement that price tags be taken off any gift. What do we get?

WE GET THE ABILITY TO BUY ANY DAMN THING, PARTICULARLY THE CHEAPEST THING, FROM THESE STORES AND BE GODS FOR IT.

I was poor as #### in college. Of course, the girl I dated at the time, however, (who was normally pretty understanding), wanted to be like her friends and get diamonds. So what'd I do? Go to Kay Jewelers every christmas/anniversary/bday and asked for the cheapest thing they had. I am fully confident I could have given her an old sock but so long as it came in a Kay box she loved me for it.

Don't hate these stores - they make gift giving for us quite simple and inexpensive if we're smart about it.

This has so many kinds of wrong my head hurts.

How so? My theory is you buy the cheapest thing at one of the stupid stores and the girl is going to love you for it. These stores and their propoganda provide:1. The relief from thinking of a gift on our own

2. A relatively cheap option (like I said, just buy the cheapest thing there)

3. The subliminal message that a girl must/should put out if they get something from you.

I don't know why any of those three things would give you a headache. I also only claimed the store has "some benefits." While we'd be better off without these stores, fact is they exist. So, see them for the positive they do have to offer and quit worrying about the negative.

1. God forbid you think about what to give as a gift. Trust me on this one, sport. Women really, really, really love it when you give them something that proves you listen to them and think about them. "Well you said you had a jewelry box like that when you were little and I saw this at the store and..."2. Define 'cheap'. Jewelry, especially diamonds, are a total scam.

3. Yeah, no.

And how about not supporting something that perpetuates the idea that women should be materialistic, money grubbing whores?

Look, I'm not saying I like jewelry stores. But the truth is, IMO, these stores exist because women are materialistic whores. Under that assumption then the majority of girls/women are going to like jewelry. If you are fortunate enough to have found a girl who doesn't love jewelry, my hats off to you and you can be as original and thoughtful as you want. However, for the vast majority of women jewelry is a thoughtful gift. So, these stores of does us the favor in appearing "thoughtful." Think about it: the average dude, at the end of the day, probably wants a steak, fellatio, and peace and quiet as his present. Imagine now there was a steak, fellatio, and quiet day. Would you be upset or think your SO was being unthoughtful with that gift? No - you'd be happy every time, including the times you could have gotten some well-thought photo album of love book or the like.

Women are materialistic whores. Men only care about sex and food and can't be bothered to put effort into our gift giving. C'mon, we're better than that aren't we? Most of us, anyway?

 

[BR33ZE]

Look, I'm not saying I like jewelry stores. But the truth is, IMO, these stores exist because women are materialistic whores. Under that assumption then the majority of girls/women are going to like jewelry. If you are fortunate enough to have found a girl who doesn't love jewelry, my hats off to you and you can be as original and thoughtful as you want. However, for the vast majority of women jewelry is a thoughtful gift. So, these stores of does us the favor in appearing "thoughtful." Think about it: the average dude, at the end of the day, probably wants a steak, fellatio, and peace and quiet as his present. Imagine now there was a steak, fellatio, and quiet day. Would you be upset or think your SO was being unthoughtful with that gift? No - you'd be happy every time, including the times you could have gotten some well-thought photo album of love book or the like.

I can't decide if this is stream of conscious or just incoherent babble.

 

[Zow]

March 14? By the way, not all women are materialistic whores. Come on, now.

That was hyperbole, but I'd confidently venture to say most women like jewelry and would never be upset with getting jewelry as a gift.

 

[joffer]

gotta feel "a little" sorry for Woz

 

[K-funk]

Women are materialistic whores. Men only care about sex and food and can't be bothered to put effort into our gift giving.

C'mon, we're better than that aren't we? Most of us, anyway?

I think so, Jeremy.

 

[mr. furley]

On a related note: can any of you recall any threads regarding alternatives to engagement and wedding rings? For example, did you decide to spend ring money on something else, like a house down payment, vacation, etc.?

WHAT GOES ON HERE?

 

[mr. furley]

In fairness, I bought my fiance a nice engagement rock, but only because she didn't care about one in the slightest. She loves it now, but it's nothing she ever would have expected or cared for beforehand, let alone demanded (as some women do). I'm glad I did it.

you don't have to justify it to us

 

[K-funk]

On a related note: can any of you recall any threads regarding alternatives to engagement and wedding rings? For example, did you decide to spend ring money on something else, like a house down payment, vacation, etc.?

WHAT GOES ON HERE?

QUIT SHOUTING.

 

[mr. furley]

On a related note: can any of you recall any threads regarding alternatives to engagement and wedding rings? For example, did you decide to spend ring money on something else, like a house down payment, vacation, etc.?

WHAT GOES ON HERE?

QUIT SHOUTING.

SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TELL US?

 

[K-funk]

On a related note: can any of you recall any threads regarding alternatives to engagement and wedding rings? For example, did you decide to spend ring money on something else, like a house down payment, vacation, etc.?

WHAT GOES ON HERE?

QUIT SHOUTING.

SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TELL US?