Heath Miller (Batch) and Impact on the WCCOFF Draft (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

I believe the WCCOFF drafts are this weekend. Miller was ranked at #11 in the recent expert rankings. What kind of impact does last night's performance have on his draft position?

Along those lines, do you burn a last round pick on Batch to capture his 24 points and start him in week one knowing you dump him for a free agent next week?

Just kind of curious if last night's events will impact the draft.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I believe the WCCOFF drafts are this weekend. Miller was ranked at #11 in the recent expert rankings. What kind of impact does last night's performance have on his draft position?Along those lines, do you burn a last round pick on Batch to capture his 24 points and start him in week one knowing you dump him for a free agent next week?Just kind of curious if last night's events will impact the draft.

Heath Miller was projected for about 110-120 points this season...He had almost 20 last night...he would have to avg a measley 6 a week the rest of the way to hit that number...I think H.Miller moves up a full round or 2 in the draft for sure.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I believe the WCCOFF drafts are this weekend. Miller was ranked at #11 in the recent expert rankings. What kind of impact does last night's performance have on his draft position?Along those lines, do you burn a last round pick on Batch to capture his 24 points and start him in week one knowing you dump him for a free agent next week?Just kind of curious if last night's events will impact the draft.

Heath Miller was projected for about 110-120 points this season...He had almost 20 last night...he would have to avg a measley 6 a week the rest of the way to hit that number...I think H.Miller moves up a full round or 2 in the draft for sure.

But the points from last night don't matter going forward. Maybe I misunderstand the WCCOFF, but if the season doesn't begin until Week 2, MIller scoring 6 points a week would be a major disappointment, right?

 

[redCashion]

The season actually starts in week 1, so all Thursday players are available to start in week 1 with full knowledge of what their stats are. This adds an interesting twist to be sure..

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The season actually starts in week 1, so all Thursday players are available to start in week 1 with full knowledge of what their stats are. This adds an interesting twist to be sure..

Correct. So heath Miller IMO will go up at least 1 round form his projected ADP.

 

[Reaper]

The season actually starts in week 1, so all Thursday players are available to start in week 1 with full knowledge of what their stats are. This adds an interesting twist to be sure..

Correct. So heath Miller IMO will go up at least 1 round form his projected ADP.

How about FWP? I'm sure he leap frogged a few people solidly in the 2nd round.Leaving in 2-3 Hours

 

[Sweetness_34]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

 

[AB in DC]

Really, what's the big deal in knowing the results of one game?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

Hi Sweetness,I actually sort of like the twist it offers. Everyone has the same opportunity so it's totally fair.I was saying last week that I'd love to see the WCOFF draft with a TE that goes off in the Thursday game. Couldn't fill that bill much better than last night.Miller now will probably be overvalued as the pendulum swings too far the other way but last night's game definitely raises his value. A huge game in hand is definitely worthy of bumping up the guy.J

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

I don't know for sure their rationale, but if they drafted the weekend prior to the Thursday game they would be looking at Labor Day weekend. I'm guessing that has something to do with it, but I really don't know.

 

[diesel7982]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

Yes, the only profitable big $$$ draft league game in the nation is "stupid"

The reality is, people love the WCOFF not only for the game, but for the entertainment. A mid-week draft in Vegas would cause people to have to take vacations from work, and not provide the same atmosphere that a weekend draft would when Vegas is packed with people in town for the weekend.

 

[wannabee]

I also think that grabbing Parker &/or Miller would allow an owner to offset drafting Portis since you know exactly how many points they "will" put up.

The plyers I would be interested in seeing how they are affected would be:

Lewis (injury) and Musa Smith

Housh (injury) and Chris Henry (huge upside for cheap)

Big Ben - might slip into a big value spot

RonBrown - after the (2) TD game

Culpepper and McMichael's poor game

I think there will be some huge knee-jerk reactions on these guys for the above situations (positive and negative) only affecting one week.

 

[KevT]

Heath Miller caught 3 passes, one of which was the longest for a TE in 10+ years. I've got Miller on one of my rosters, and I'm not too thrilled about the 3 receptions. He should be more involved in the offense. He's not going to catch a long one every week.

 

[joffer]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

:11:

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

Yes, the only profitable big $$$ draft league game in the nation is "stupid"

The reality is, people love the WCOFF not only for the game, but for the entertainment. A mid-week draft in Vegas would cause people to have to take vacations from work, and not provide the same atmosphere that a weekend draft would when Vegas is packed with people in town for the weekend.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The season actually starts in week 1, so all Thursday players are available to start in week 1 with full knowledge of what their stats are. This adds an interesting twist to be sure..

Correct. So heath Miller IMO will go up at least 1 round form his projected ADP.

How about FWP? I'm sure he leap frogged a few people solidly in the 2nd round.Leaving in 2-3 Hours

FWP could actually be taken at this point at the end of the 1st round. People had to like most of what they saw last night...Cowher did say they have to monitor his carries but he looks like he will tote it 320 times this season and probably at least 25-30 catches...350 touches this season for him.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Heath Miller caught 3 passes, one of which was the longest for a TE in 10+ years. I've got Miller on one of my rosters, and I'm not too thrilled about the 3 receptions. He should be more involved in the offense. He's not going to catch a long one every week.

I just do not understand this rationale...did you see him running in the open field...why can't he break off from a LB once a week for a decent gain. You honestly think he will just have 3 receptions a game...after Ward he is the primary target. But even if that were true.48 rec, 550 yds, 6-7TDs...what is wrong with that from a guy most people were taking as their TE2 or last TE1 to be drafted...

 

[Reaper]

Why is the WCOFF so stupid in drafting after the Thursday game? You would think an event of that proportion would be drafting before every game is played?

Yes, the only profitable big $$$ draft league game in the nation is "stupid"

The reality is, people love the WCOFF not only for the game, but for the entertainment. A mid-week draft in Vegas would cause people to have to take vacations from work, and not provide the same atmosphere that a weekend draft would when Vegas is packed with people in town for the weekend.

Not to mention a Weekend of FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it was last weekend it would have been cool - Vegas always is....

But NOW!!!!!!! Sunday - Sunday night - Monday Night!!!!!

VEGAS!!!!!

I think they know what they're doing

 

[ShadowMaster]

Drafting aftet the season starts is stupid IMO

Allowing people to start players after they have played and you know their production is EXTRA STUPID

World Championship? Maybe in their own mind. I wouldn't put $ into something so poorly organized they could not get a draft date set prior to the kickoff party for week 1. Seems totally bush league to me.

 

[joffer]

Drafting aftet the season starts is stupid IMOAllowing people to start players after they have played and you know their production is EXTRA STUPIDWorld Championship? Maybe in their own mind. I wouldn't put $ into something so poorly organized they could not get a draft date set prior to the kickoff party for week 1. Seems totally bush league to me.

good ####in griefthe first year that the opening game was moved to Thursday was the first year of WCOFF. They had already planned the draft for the day before the season started. Once the Thursday game was announced, the logistics involved with moving an event of that size weren't practical so they kept it as is. They held a vote on what to do with the Thursday points and counting them won.now, having the draft on opening weekend is so overwhelmingly popular, if they tried to move it they'd probably lose half the field.WCOFF is one of best run events of that size i've ever seen. i'm pissed i couldn't go this year.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'd imagine Batch is probably a 13th or 14th round pick now.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Drafting aftet the season starts is stupid IMOAllowing people to start players after they have played and you know their production is EXTRA STUPIDWorld Championship? Maybe in their own mind. I wouldn't put $ into something so poorly organized they could not get a draft date set prior to the kickoff party for week 1. Seems totally bush league to me.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Drafting aftet the season starts is stupid IMOAllowing people to start players after they have played and you know their production is EXTRA STUPIDWorld Championship? Maybe in their own mind. I wouldn't put $ into something so poorly organized they could not get a draft date set prior to the kickoff party for week 1. Seems totally bush league to me.

good ####in griefthe first year that the opening game was moved to Thursday was the first year of WCOFF. They had already planned the draft for the day before the season started. Once the Thursday game was announced, the logistics involved with moving an event of that size weren't practical so they kept it as is. They held a vote on what to do with the Thursday points and counting them won.now, having the draft on opening weekend is so overwhelmingly popular, if they tried to move it they'd probably lose half the field.WCOFF is one of best run events of that size i've ever seen. i'm pissed i couldn't go this year.

 

[Keg]

if WCOFF drafted any earlier in the year I am sure they would also lose some of their participants because of their Local Drafts...not sure but just a thought

 

[-OZ-]

if WCOFF drafted any earlier in the year I am sure they would also lose some of their participants because of their Local Drafts...not sure but just a thought

I'm pretty sure the local drafts would adjust.I'm also pretty sure that Culpepper and Chambers lost a lot of value (or gained "value", depending on the definition of the word)

 

[BIGGjohnny]

The WCOFF is the premiere fantasy football league in the World. I love it when someone tries to bash it and says that it sucks for one reason or another.

If you have not participated in it, don't knock it unless you've tried it. More than likey you just can't afford it.

BTW: I am participating tomorrow. (2nd year in a row.)

It will be intersting to see where certain players go.

-Heath Miller (probably a round or two higher) I have moved him up in my rankings. Probably a round or two higher in most drafts.

-Charlie Batch (I love to wait for a QB, someone like Warner/C-Pepp, but I am seriously considering drafting Charlie Batch as a backup, just now sure where to do it. It is a 20 team draft so you can afford 3 QB if they are good value picks. Chase Stuart was in my WCOFF last year, solid ff player, but 13/14th round? Is that too early? I am just not sure, I guess it matters who else you have and who they are matched up against week 1.

-Chambers/Hines: Values and ADP should stay about the same with solid performances.

-C-Pepp: Outlook will probably drop with poor performance. Actually he looked OK, he was just up against a brickwall. Drafting C-pepp late and Charlie Batch as backup QB may be solid strategy.

-Ronnie Brown should go middle of first round. Some leagues as pick 5-6th.

-Willie Parker should go in the second of most drafts. Probably moves up a few spots.

-But what about.....Nate Washington? He had 2/32 TD. That is usually enough for a flex. Pick him up late?

Can't wait until tomorrow. I am going out of the 3 hole....

BIGG Johnny

Iron City Assclowns

 

[-OZ-]

-Ronnie Brown should go middle of first round. Some leagues as pick 5-6th. -Willie Parker should go in the second of most drafts. Probably moves up a few spots.

Would anyone draft Brown in round one and FWP in round 2?Would that be wise?

 

[Jagerbomber]

Please don't overestimate Miller just yet. He had some big games last year and then...bupkus.

Is it me or is the dude looking like he lost some weight? Maybe to avoid being confused with the infamous Steeler impersonator (who tried to pass himself as Heath, St Pierre and Big Ben)

I think Culpepper will drop and will drag Chambers with him.

 

[ShadowMaster]

You can be a big time or as premiere as you want, but if you have a stupid rule - you have a stupid rule. As that news guys says "Your not gonna spin me"

You could skip week 1

You could go best ball for week 1

You could draft before the season starts (like everyone else)

There - it took all of 5 seconds to come up with 3 options I view as way more fair as the way you say they do it now. Mind you I'm not involved in this league, so it doesn't effect me - but I did find the idea really, really dumb and I don't mind saying so.

As for the buy in Johnny - I can accept it is a league for bigger gambling addicts than myself. It doesn't mean I don't have the scratch - I just use my cash in other ways amigo.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Chase Stuart was in my WCOFF last year, solid ff player, but 13/14th round? Is that too early? I am just not sure, I guess it matters who else you have and who they are matched up against week 1.

I think it's too early. But that's when I said I imagine he goes, not when he should go.