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Inglourious Basterds (2 Viewers)
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awesomeness
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Excellent movie. One of my favourite movies of all time. Some random thoughts:
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-Christoph Waltz was fantastic as Hans Landa.
- The german actress looked very similar to the cinema chick. Random coincidence?
- Brad Pitt was the worst character imo. His accent felt too fake.
- BJ Novaks part about his nickname felt like something that would happen in the office, i didn't like that. Though his part at the end when hes talking to Brad Pitt while scalping a Nazi's head was very well done.
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-Christoph Waltz was fantastic as Hans Landa.
- The german actress looked very similar to the cinema chick. Random coincidence?
- Brad Pitt was the worst character imo. His accent felt too fake.
- BJ Novaks part about his nickname felt like something that would happen in the office, i didn't like that. Though his part at the end when hes talking to Brad Pitt while scalping a Nazi's head was very well done.
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
The more I think about it the more I come to think that Christoph Waltz was by far the best part of the movie.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
awesomeness said:
Yes, this one had the feel of a movie that I bet will have lots of little things that are noticed on repeat viewings. They did this a few times with merci and also did it with "oui" a few times. J
No idea if true but this one is ripe for a prequel. From the scars on Pitt's neck to the actress to Hans. Lots of stuff that we're just presented with that likely has an interesting backstory.J
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
I read that at Cannes the movie had a scene with Donny back home buying the bat, swinging it outside, going inside to ask if there was a heavier bat, and then getting a bunch of jews to sign it.Makes me wonder what else was cut out. Looks like I'm buying the dvd.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Hmm, maybe go pay for it in theatres? That might work.
Statorama
Footballguy
Hey, even us dudes with FBG money are feeling the recession.I'll probably go see a matinee tomorrow. The film held my interest even when I couldn't understand the dialogue, which is a pretty good sign it's worth the 5 bucks.
Statorama
Footballguy
It was tough. I think the fact that it held me throughout is a real testiment to the strong acting in the film.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Definitely worth the money, very few films out there that are, this is one of them.
Porkchop Express
Footballguy
Some very good scenes, but as a whole the movie was a letdown for me.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I have mixed feelings after seeing the movie.
On the one hand I like Pitt and his character a lot. His tone and demeanor were an excellent counterpoint to the violence and it something Tarentino always does well.
But on the other hand, I was very disappointed in the lack of character development of the other basterds. Scenes early on led me to believe that we would get to know these guys, but the lack of that made me feel cheated when one of them would die.
I would have like to have seen either a) the movie go longer or multiple parts to allow me to spend more time with the basters or b) shortened or edited a lot of the non-basterd scenes so I could have spent more time with the guys.
This lack of focus toward the basterds and their hijinx was the film's serious flaw, imo.
It was a very good film and I enjoyed it, but I really wish I had had a chance to know Donnowitz, Stiglitz, Ulmer, et al as well as I got to know Mr. Pink, Mr. White and Mr. Brown.
On the one hand I like Pitt and his character a lot. His tone and demeanor were an excellent counterpoint to the violence and it something Tarentino always does well.
But on the other hand, I was very disappointed in the lack of character development of the other basterds. Scenes early on led me to believe that we would get to know these guys, but the lack of that made me feel cheated when one of them would die.
I would have like to have seen either a) the movie go longer or multiple parts to allow me to spend more time with the basters or b) shortened or edited a lot of the non-basterd scenes so I could have spent more time with the guys.
This lack of focus toward the basterds and their hijinx was the film's serious flaw, imo.
It was a very good film and I enjoyed it, but I really wish I had had a chance to know Donnowitz, Stiglitz, Ulmer, et al as well as I got to know Mr. Pink, Mr. White and Mr. Brown.
belljr
Footballguy
You know this is a supposed loose remakeeta: i did not see this or the original so I don't know for sure
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Harry Manback
Footballguy
I tend to agree somewhat, I thought it was a great movie, but my only complaint was not enough of the Basterds killing and not enough character development with them.Hopefully he makes a prequel that covers this.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Ron and Fez from satellite radio will be doing a whole segment about the movie for people who already seen it.
I don't think this is really a spoiler but if you're hyper sensitive to that kind of stuff, skip this one.What did you guys think of the bat scene with Donny?
For me, it was kind of like the scene in the Patriot when Mel Gibson butchers the British guys with the tomahawk and is just way over the top. And his son stops him.
I don't think anyone feels too bad for Nazis. But what did you guys think?
J
Harry Manback
Footballguy
I expected a more over the top result, ie: something out of a video game in the sense of a decapitation/head exploding, what it was more realistic, almost disturbingly realistic. The sound the bat made when it connected...:shivers: and the subsequent moaning/gurgling of the dude on the ground...made me a little uneasy.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
"this German wants to die for his country! OBLIGE HIM!"
Abrantes
Footballguy
Personally, I thought the scene was disgusting. I don't feel bad for Nazis, but it's inevitable that I feel bad for that Nazi soldier as an individual, much like I felt bad for Wilhelm in the tavern. You could've spent two hours recounting the horrors that German soldier may or may not have committed in great detail, and it still wouldn't have justified that kind of death, in my eyes - and it's not like I'm squeamish at the sight of blood.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Did you see the previews? What did you expect the Basterds to do? Lethal injections?
Harry Manback
Footballguy
I agree to an extent, it was rather brutal, but then again, that was the point.They wanted to send a message, they wanted the german to fear them, to think, no...to know that they were brutal, heartless Nazi killers.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
I'd be interested to read your write up (in spoiler mode) of what was going on with each character
Abrantes
Footballguy
Hell, I've seen all of Tarantino's other films. Does he have another scene that's an equivalent to killing a dude by attempting to knock his head out of the ballpark execution-style and then smash it to a pulp without even knowing the character? I can expect to see a scene like that, but does that make it any less disgusting?
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I mean, the Nazi getting smashed in the head with a baseball bat was the least surprising scene in the entire movie if you saw any of the previews...so I'm just wondering why you'd go see the movie knowing your delicate sensibilities would be offended.ETA: How did you feel about the scalping?
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I didn't notice that, but this post reminded me of what I think was the first song in the movie - as the first scene began...it was some kind of mix with parts of Fur Elise in it I think. Anyone else pick this up?
Abrantes
Footballguy
I'm fine with the scalping. It's not the violence itself that bugs me. My disgust is probably directed more towards the fact that Donny and the Basterds seemed to take a savage pleasure out of the senseless brutality - which wasn't the case with most of Tarantino's previous heroes or anti-heroes - and there was no counterpoint to that mentality.My sensibilities are far from delicate, by the way. I could hardly breathe due to excessive laughing during Dead Snow, for instance.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
I suppose surviving a Nazi death camp may change your views on the matter, and may make you a bit more heartless when dealing with the perpetrators who ruthlessly slaughtered your family.I could be wrong though.I'm fine with the scalping. It's not the violence itself that bugs me. My disgust is probably directed more towards the fact that Donny and the Basterds seemed to take a savage pleasure out of the senseless brutality - which wasn't the case with most of Tarantino's previous heroes or anti-heroes - and there was no counterpoint to that mentality.
My sensibilities are far from delicate, by the way. I could hardly breathe due to excessive laughing during Dead Snow, for instance.
Statorama
Footballguy
I had read a review of the film, so I knew Shoshanna's arc. I thought for the most part they were all kind of self-explanatory, but I can honestly admit that there were two scenes where I had zero idea what was going on...mytagid = Math.floor( Math.random() * 100 );document.write("
1. The whole scene with the Germans in the bar was just chaos without subtitles. There were people holding cards above their head (I'm assuming you had to treat them like the character and the person with the card had to guess who it was) and suddenly it moves to guys putting guns in other guys crotches. That is the one scene in the entire movie where I really felt like I lost some of the tension that was going on by being out of the language loop.
2. QT spent an inordinate amount of time with the black dude's role at the theatre, so there must have been something I was missing with his connection to the story.
That Jew Hunter guy was calmly frightening, and got his point across regardless of dialect.
I was able to catch up with one piece later on regarding the German movie star. That guy had me a little
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
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I felt bad for Willhem. The movie wasn't entirely black/white. I'm really interested in what people think about whether or not Lt. Raines would've kept the deal with Willhem had the actress/spy whose name I'm too lazy to remember not shot him.
On one hand, Raines had kept his word to that Nazi who gave up the information about the Nazi patrol (right after the baseball scene), though not entirely unscathed.
On the other hand, Willhelm knowing that the actress/spy was a spy would've completely blown her cover and ruined the entire theater mission. I'm not sure whatever sense of integrity Raines had or didn't have would've been worth sacrificing the mission.
And he did execute the radioman Nazi at the end of the movie even though there was a "deal" made for his life, though it wasn't exactly made with Raines himself.
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I felt bad for Willhem. The movie wasn't entirely black/white. I'm really interested in what people think about whether or not Lt. Raines would've kept the deal with Willhem had the actress/spy whose name I'm too lazy to remember not shot him.
On one hand, Raines had kept his word to that Nazi who gave up the information about the Nazi patrol (right after the baseball scene), though not entirely unscathed.
On the other hand, Willhelm knowing that the actress/spy was a spy would've completely blown her cover and ruined the entire theater mission. I'm not sure whatever sense of integrity Raines had or didn't have would've been worth sacrificing the mission.
And he did execute the radioman Nazi at the end of the movie even though there was a "deal" made for his life, though it wasn't exactly made with Raines himself.
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Just a guess/opinion, but I would think that you'd have to adopt this kind of mentality or it wouldn't be possible to stomach doing this in the first place; can't really half-### it.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
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And then the second soldier instinctively pointing out the Germans on the map was a great big exhale.
This whole sequence was my favorite scene, and I would watch a movie devoted to the Basterds hunting nazis (which I think most of us thought this was going to be). What a let down to get the comic book style backstory on the rogue Nazi and then not get the same for the rest of them. This was one of my favorite things about Kill Bill (especially the one for Oren Ishi (the japanese hitwoman) with the anime cartoon story of her family being murdered) and I thought we were going to get it again here, but didn't*** SPOILER ALERT! Click this link to display the potential spoiler text in this box. ***
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I don't see that. While Pitt's character was one-dimensional, I thought Pitt's accent was hilarious. And even if it was too exaggerated, that worked on a comic level.awesomeness said:
Abrantes
Footballguy
Extrapolating and explaining a character's possible motivation isn't the same as making it acceptable. It really doesn't make me any less uneasy at watching a deranged "good guy" cheering like he just scored a home run after bashing a random German soldier's face in.Would your reaction have been the same if the guy on the receiving end of the swing had been Wilhelm, whose son had just been born? Nothing makes me think the Basterds would've spared him a swing, in a similar situation.I suppose surviving a Nazi death camp may change your views on the matter, and may make you a bit more heartless when dealing with the perpetrators who ruthlessly slaughtered your family.I could be wrong though.I'm fine with the scalping. It's not the violence itself that bugs me. My disgust is probably directed more towards the fact that Donny and the Basterds seemed to take a savage pleasure out of the senseless brutality - which wasn't the case with most of Tarantino's previous heroes or anti-heroes - and there was no counterpoint to that mentality.
My sensibilities are far from delicate, by the way. I could hardly breathe due to excessive laughing during Dead Snow, for instance.
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Harry Manback
Footballguy
I agree totally.I think this movie could easily have been 1-2 hours LONGER, a sequel/prequel would absolutely be welcome here.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I agree. I think he was brilliant.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Maybe not, but I still could understand why someone could take pleasure in doing that, even to Wilhelm.I can only pretend to know what it would have been like to watch your family herded away and slaughtered like cattle, for no apparent reason. And I don't even want to know what that would make me capable of doing to anyone I felt was remotely responsible for it.Extrapolating and explaining a character's possible motivation isn't the same as making it acceptable. It really doesn't make me any less uneasy at watching a deranged "good guy" cheering like he just scored a home run after bashing a random German soldier's face in. He's not taking a swing at Hitler or Himmler or whoever. He's executing a faceless soldier.Would your reaction have been the same if the guy on the receiving end of the swing had been Wilhelm, whose son had just been born?I suppose surviving a Nazi death camp may change your views on the matter, and may make you a bit more heartless when dealing with the perpetrators who ruthlessly slaughtered your family.I could be wrong though.I'm fine with the scalping. It's not the violence itself that bugs me. My disgust is probably directed more towards the fact that Donny and the Basterds seemed to take a savage pleasure out of the senseless brutality - which wasn't the case with most of Tarantino's previous heroes or anti-heroes - and there was no counterpoint to that mentality.
My sensibilities are far from delicate, by the way. I could hardly breathe due to excessive laughing during Dead Snow, for instance.
