Is everyone driving and texting? (1 Viewer)

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40% of workplace fatalities are transportation related. Distracted driving is the single leading cause of those accidents. People need to stop being #######s and cut it out.

On the bright side, it gives me a lot of opportunities to be on the TV and radio talking about what a problem it is.

Here's the BLS data showing the 40%. Where can I see the distracted driving break down of this?

Not saying you are, but doubting Bentley on this would probably be the incorrect play.

 

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Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities surprisingly.

If there is a God, this will be Woz's last post.

Stay classy.

 

[Apple Jack]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities surprisingly.

If there is a God, this will be Woz's last post.

lovely

 

[dgreen]

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome average morning.

 

[James Daulton]

I'm late to this thread, but are there actually people ITT who think texting and driving is ok?

 

[tonydead]

Driving into work today was a bloodbath worthy of a Tarantino flick... broken bodies and shattered iPhones everywhere along the freeway.

The horrors, I tell you!

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome morning.

Even if you completely and 100% wholeheartedly disagree with someone why would you mock them for trying to tell you that they think something you're doing is dangerous? Just curious.

 

[Zow]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities

surprisingly.

If you wonder why people think you're being an idiot about this, this is post (and the others like

it) is why.

I don't wonder about it. I get it. So may as well shtick it up a bit. I find the issue to be similar to gun or pit bull ownership. In my opinion, based on the statistics I've read and my anecdotal observations, owning a gun and/or a pit bull is a very dumb thing to do and unnecessarily puts others lives at risk. Given the number of accidental injuries or deaths that occurred due to ownership versus the alternatives (get another type of gun, bow hunt, get an alarm system, etc) it just seems like a no-brainer to me).

But, do I think we should criminalize ownership of either of these things? Of course not. And that's where this threads breaks down. I just can't take the yokels who believe criminalizing the simple action of using one's while driving to the extent we criminalize DUI seriously. Those people can't see there's a healthy gray area. So the discussion devolves.

Fwiw, I'm not posting this post while driving. I'm posting while crapping.

 

[dgreen]

40% of workplace fatalities are transportation related. Distracted driving is the single leading cause of those accidents. People need to stop being #######s and cut it out.

On the bright side, it gives me a lot of opportunities to be on the TV and radio talking about what a problem it is.

Here's the BLS data showing the 40%. Where can I see the distracted driving break down of this?

Not saying you are, but doubting Bentley on this would probably be the incorrect play.

Definitely not. Seems like a reasonable claim. But, it does differ from traffic accident deaths overall. There could be believable explanations, though, of why there is more distracted driving in the workplace than outside the workplace.

 

[Zow]

I'm late to this thread, but are there actually people ITT who think texting and driving is ok?

There are people who think texting and driving shouldn't be criminalized and can be done safely in limited situations.

 

[dgreen]

Driving into work today was a bloodbath worthy of a Tarantino flick... broken bodies and shattered iPhones everywhere along the freeway.

The horrors, I tell you!

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome morning.

Even if you completely and 100% wholeheartedly disagree with someone why would you mock them for trying to tell you that they think something you're doing is dangerous? Just curious.

They aren't mocking you for thinking that texting while driving is dangerous.

 

[tonydead]

Driving into work today was a bloodbath worthy of a Tarantino flick... broken bodies and shattered iPhones everywhere along the freeway.

The horrors, I tell you!

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome morning.

Even if you completely and 100% wholeheartedly disagree with someone why would you mock them for trying to tell you that they think something you're doing is dangerous? Just curious.

They aren't mocking you for thinking that texting while driving is dangerous.

I haven't discussed any other topic in this thread Einstein.

 

[Zow]

Jesus

 

[Apple Jack]

oh my

 

[FUBAR]

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome morning.

Just witnessed 337 accident-related texts while laying a deuce.

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities

surprisingly.

If you wonder why people think you're being an idiot about this, this is post (and the others like

it) is why.

I don't wonder about it. I get it. So may as well shtick it up a bit.I find the issue to be similar to gun or pit bull ownership. In my opinion, based on the statistics I've read and my anecdotal observations, owning a gun and/or a pit bull is a very dumb thing to do and unnecessarily puts others lives at risk. Given the number of accidental injuries or deaths that occurred due to ownership versus the alternatives (get another type of gun, bow hunt, get an alarm system, etc) it just seems like a no-brainer to me).

But, do I think we should criminalize ownership of either of these things? Of course not. And that's where this threads breaks down. I just can't take the yokels who believe criminalizing the simple action of using one's while driving to the extent we criminalize DUI seriously. Those people can't see there's a healthy gray area. So the discussion devolves.

Fwiw, I'm not posting this post while driving. I'm posting while crapping.

I'm all for individual rights, and I wouldn't advocate for throwing people in jail for texting while driving.

But tickets should be issued. If you're going to assume the additional risk of texting while driving, you should assume the costs associated with the behavior.

 

[Kal El]

I'm late to this thread, but are there actually people ITT who think texting and driving is ok?

There are people who think texting and driving shouldn't be criminalized and can be done safely in limited situations.

Correct, the limited situations are of course not being behind the wheel of a moving vehicle.

 

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Driving into work today was a bloodbath worthy of a Tarantino flick... broken bodies and shattered iPhones everywhere along the freeway.

The horrors, I tell you!

Just witnessed 37 text-related accidents while laying a deuce. It's an especially gruesome morning.

Even if you completely and 100% wholeheartedly disagree with someone why would you mock them for trying to tell you that they think something you're doing is dangerous? Just curious.

They aren't mocking you for thinking that texting while driving is dangerous.

Ding Ding Ding. Winner Winner, Roadkill Dinner!

 

[Zow]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause an accident. Just because an action may not be illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

 

[Zow]

I'm late to this thread, but are there actually people ITT who think texting and driving is ok?

There are people who think texting and driving shouldn't be criminalized and can be done safely in limited situations.

Correct, the limited situations are of course not being behind the wheel of a moving vehicle.

Then it wouldn't be texting while driving by definition. So no, not of course. Not even close.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities

surprisingly.

If you wonder why people think you're being an idiot about this, this is post (and the others like

it) is why.

I find the issue to be similar to gun or pit bull ownership.

man.

 

[Capella]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause an accident. Just because an action may not be illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class on this, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense than you.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause an accident. Just because an action may not be illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class on this, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense than you.

Pretty much.

 

[tonydead]

Ding Ding Ding. Winner Winner, Roadkill Dinner!

Let's recap shall we:

There is no way you see an accident everyday.

Yes, I see them almost everyday.

Do you actually see the accident because how would you know it's because of texting.

I see accidents every day and it's obvious to me most of them are from texting because they are mostly rear enders in heavy stop and go traffic where I witness a lot of people texting and not paying attention to what is in front of them.

You said you see the accidents but you really didn't witness the accidents so you don't know.

Commute home more of the same, 3 rear end accidents.

I saw accidents while taking a poop!

Is that about right?

 

[Jobber]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities surprisingly.

If there is a God, this will be Woz's last post.

lovely

Oh come on. You all joke about this topic all day long. I make one crack and I'm the doosh.

 

[Zow]

Phew. Good thing there's not a god.

 

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This thread is improving dramatically

 

[Zow]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class on this, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

 

[Zow]

This thread is improving dramatically

Going vintage with this thread. It's actually pretty enjoyable.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

The tool level in this thread is approaching 11.

 

[Kal El]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you texting during that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Just downloaded ATT DriveMode. Time to stop being so dumb.

I turned it on yesterday for funsies. I usually don't check phone anyway, so I didn't notice during the drive..but I did notice I had to turn it off after I got out of the truck because it still thought I was driving or whatever.

 

[Zow]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause

an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense

than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you texting during that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

Mostly for work. Occasionally with buddies or my wife. Also, 99% of the time I'm doing it I'm on a flat, straight desert highway that I drive a half a dozen times per week.

And I'm really good at it.

 

[tonydead]

One side of this argument has everything to lose.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

40% of workplace fatalities are transportation related. Distracted driving is the single leading cause of those accidents. People need to stop being #######s and cut it out.

On the bright side, it gives me a lot of opportunities to be on the TV and radio talking about what a problem it is.

Do you like being on tv and radio?

This is the first I've heard of it, so he's probably not too proud of it.

 

[Kal El]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause

an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense

than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you textingduring that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

Mostly for work. Occasionally with buddies or my wife.Also, 99% of the time I'm doing it I'm on a flat, straight desert highway that I drive a half a dozen times per week.

And I'm really good at it.

Ok, but why not either call them or just wait until you stop?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities

surprisingly.

If you wonder why people think you're being an idiot about this, this is post (and the others like

it) is why.

I don't wonder about it. I get it. So may as well shtick it up a bit.I find the issue to be similar to gun or pit bull ownership. In my opinion, based on the statistics I've read and my anecdotal observations, owning a gun and/or a pit bull is a very dumb thing to do and unnecessarily puts others lives at risk. Given the number of accidental injuries or deaths that occurred due to ownership versus the alternatives (get another type of gun, bow hunt, get an alarm system, etc) it just seems like a no-brainer to me).

But, do I think we should criminalize ownership of either of these things? Of course not. And that's where this threads breaks down. I just can't take the yokels who believe criminalizing the simple action of using one's while driving to the extent we criminalize DUI seriously. Those people can't see there's a healthy gray area. So the discussion devolves.

Fwiw, I'm not posting this post while driving. I'm posting while crapping.

This analogy is so ######ed I'm actually having trouble putting into words how ######ed it is and it's making me wonder if I too am also ######ed.

 

[PatsWillWin]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause

an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense

than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you textingduring that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

Mostly for work. Occasionally with buddies or my wife.Also, 99% of the time I'm doing it I'm on a flat, straight desert highway that I drive a half a dozen times per week.

And I'm really good at it.

Ok, but why not either call them or just wait until you stop?

For the same reason why people own guns apparently.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Here's another problem I keep seeing pop up, at the risk of hijacking this thread: I am sick to death of people leaving small children and animals in locked vehicles in summer time. These people deserve to be beaten in the face with a crowbar to serve as a warning to others. If you're too busy to bring your kid/pet with you or to leave them with a responsible adult, then you're too busy to even think about having a child/pet, and should probably just sterilize yourselves to save us the trouble of potentially harming a child/pet because you're a moron.

This still happens?

Yup. Saw a post on my news feed as I was getting ready to go to sleep, and now I'm mad about it. I am dumbfounded about the thought process that makes people leave a kid in a hot car, because that makes absolutely no sense to me. Part of me wonders if we're just so narcissistic as a society that we think it won't happen to us, or if the nation's IQ has taken a beating to the point that the gene pool needs a healthy dose of chlorine.

Heard a doozy from my cleaning lady on Saturday - she was at the mall and a lady locked her baby in the car with the keys. Security comes and wants to break the window to get the baby out and the lady freaks out saying it's a brand new BMW. I know that sounds like a joke about LA, but it happened.

Honey Badger did a public service type thing where he sat in a hot car with the windows up for as long as he could: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/tyrann-mathieu-sweats-hot-car-peta-psa-article-1.2295362

On a 90 degree day, it got up to 120 degrees in 8 minutes, which is when Mathieu tapped out.

PETA generally sucks, but this was good I think.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause

an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense

than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you textingduring that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

And I'm really good at it.

Just stop this crap.

 

[Zow]

Because I don't need to.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Some guys need to spit out some wozbait. Probably 2 oz worth...

 

[Kal El]

But the costs already are assumed if you cause

an accident. Just because an action may not be

illegal per se it doesn't excuse if your action was done with negligence to a duty and you caused damages to another.

I guess I'm pretty neutral on whether it should be

a civil traffic infraction like not wearing a seat belt. But the proof issues still bother me a bit.

Nobody is asking you to teach a 1L class onthis, Scalia. Just stop texting while you drive. You might kill somebody who has more sense

than you.

99% of the time I'm driving I'm not texting, Ginsburg.

Out of sheer curiosity, what are you textingduring that 1% of time, and would a phone call accomplish the same thing?

Mostly for work. Occasionally with buddies or my wife.Also, 99% of the time I'm doing it I'm on a flat, straight desert highway that I drive a half a dozen times per week.

And I'm really good at it.

Ok, but why not either call them or just wait until you stop?

For the same reason why people own guns apparently.

For hunting or self-defense?

 

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Some guys need to spit out some wozbait. Probably 2 oz worth...

4oz for some of them... taking multiple loads and keeping at it

 

[AAABatteries]

I think for most it will be a moot point relatively soon as voice recognition improves. It will be faster and safer to use that to text.

 

[tonydead]

For the record:

The smarter states are writing tickets for having a phone in your hands (non-hands free). And that's a lot less privacy invasive than breath, urine or blood testing. I think you're fishing.

But I can't help correct horribly bad logic even if it is fishing:

There are plenty of laws that restrict where and when you can use a gun. It doesn't make any sense to compare texting while driving to gun ownership. Nobody is trying to take your phone away from you.

 

[Zow]

Doing 84 and posting right now. No fatalities

surprisingly.

If you wonder why people think you're being an idiot about this, this is post (and the others like

it) is why.

I don't wonder about it. I get it. So may as well shtick it up a bit.I find the issue to be similar to gun or pit bull ownership. In my opinion, based on the statistics I've read and my anecdotal observations, owning a gun and/or a pit bull is a very dumb thing to do and unnecessarily puts others lives at risk. Given the number of accidental injuries or deaths that occurred due to ownership versus the alternatives (get another type of gun, bow hunt, get an alarm system, etc) it just seems like a no-brainer to me).

But, do I think we should criminalize ownership of either of these things? Of course not. And that's where this threads breaks down. I just can't take the yokels who believe criminalizing the simple action of using one's while driving to the extent we criminalize DUI seriously. Those people can't see there's a healthy gray area. So the discussion devolves.

Fwiw, I'm not posting this post while driving. I'm posting while crapping.

This analogy is so ######ed I'm actually having trouble putting into words how ######ed it is and it's making me wonder if I too am also ######ed.

This is a potential conclusion to be drawn. Just think about this the next time you hear of a two year old getting ahold of daddy's gun or some pit bull named Rosie chewing off your neighbor's calf muscle. Think to yourself, was it really worth the risk? Why couldn't that homeowner just fish instead of hunt and why couldn't that pet owner choose to get a yorkie instead?

 

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I think for most it will be a moot point relatively soon as voice recognition improves. It will be faster and safer to use that to text.

On the rare occasion I send a text, it's with SIRI. Press and hold button (phone mounted to A pillar) then dictate "text Bob, yada yada yada" Done. Mitigates the risk factor down to normal in car conversations. The ability to read back texts is also nice when you actually need to be in touch for some reason or other (or are on the road all day).

side note... GF and I were driving home from dinner last night and had to hell at her to bail out of her lane because some hoopdie beater was drifting steadily into her lane. I look over and.... dude is texting

 

[Zow]

I think for most it will be a moot point relatively soon as voice recognition improves. It will be faster and safer to use that to text.

On the rare occasion I send a text, it's with SIRI. Press and hold button (phone mounted to A pillar) then dictate "text Bob, yada yada yada" Done. the ability to read back texts is also nice when you actually need to be in touch for some reason or other (or are on the road all day).

side note... GF and I were driving home from dinner last night and had to hell at her to bail out of her lane because some hoopdie beater was drifting steadily into her lane. I look over and.... dude is texting

Yeah sorry about that.

 

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Woz is doing the lord's work in here.

 

[tonydead]

I think for most it will be a moot point relatively soon as voice recognition improves. It will be faster and safer to use that to text.

On the rare occasion I send a text, it's with SIRI. Press and hold button (phone mounted to A pillar) then dictate "text Bob, yada yada yada" Done. Mitigates the risk factor down to normal in car conversations. The ability to read back texts is also nice when you actually need to be in touch for some reason or other (or are on the road all day).

side note... GF and I were driving home from dinner last night and had to hell at her to bail out of her lane because some hoopdie beater was drifting steadily into her lane. I look over and.... dude is texting

I saw 497 hoopdie beaters drifting while I pooped!!!

 

[Frostillicus]

Just downloaded ATT DriveMode. Time to stop being so dumb.

I turned it on yesterday for funsies. I usually don't check phone anyway, so I didn't notice during the drive..but I did notice I had to turn it off after I got out of the truck because it still thought I was driving or whatever.

Same thing happened this morning.