Is it ever ok to use a belt to discipline your child? (1 Viewer)

[ZBTHorton]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

 

[Apple Jack]

Do we have a consensus on the tire iron?

 

[BigJohn]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I may hit Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure belts were designed to hold up your pants.

 

[Christo]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I thought belts were specifically designed to hold up pants.

 

[doowain]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why do you refer to using a belt as "beating" your kid? ETA: Also, why inflict pain on your hand by smacking them on the ### when you can just use a belt? No one is saying you should take a Josh Hamilton rip on the kid.

As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

 

[wikkidpissah]

been away & cant imagine how reading a 7-pg thread on this would be edifying. cant help but weigh in though.

highly ritualized (hours to think about the "sentence", loud belt prep, chair in the middle of the room, "this hurts me more than it hurts you"), it's effective & beneficial. any other form, not so much.

also, though i am one who has threatened to match the violence to parents that they've shown their kids in public, i am firmly on the side of a non-interference policy on the private corporal punishment (and all other aspects of rearing) for children.

 

[Christo]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I may hit Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure belts were designed to hold up your pants.

I think our non-spankers have an overly-emotional point of view. Either they were abused as children or they don't think they could control themselves enough not to abuse their own children.

 

[Christo]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

 

[gianmarco]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I may hit Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure belts were designed to hold up your pants.

I think our non-spankers have an overly-emotional point of view. Either they were abused as children or they don't think they could control themselves enough not to abuse their own children.

Yes, clearly those are the only 2 options. Quite possibly the dumbest statement in a thread filled with quite a few.

 

[doowain]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I may hit Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure belts were designed to hold up your pants.

I think our non-spankers have an overly-emotional point of view. Either they were abused as children or they don't think they could control themselves enough not to abuse their own children.

I get another vibe from it as well. Either a) They look at it as barbaric and they are much too far up the evolutionary ladder for such a thing, or b) What society deems "good parents" has changed. No longer is disciplining your child in this way socially acceptable.

Personally I don't agree with either. Choosing to discipline your child with a belt does not mean you love them less. I know my Dad loves me. But he also tells me he does and he told me/showed me the same growing up.

 

[Christo]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

I may hit Wikipedia, but I'm pretty sure belts were designed to hold up your pants.

I think our non-spankers have an overly-emotional point of view. Either they were abused as children or they don't think they could control themselves enough not to abuse their own children.

Yes, clearly those are the only 2 options. Quite possibly the dumbest statement in a thread filled with quite a few.

Yes, I'm sure the people that automatically apply the term abuse to something that isn't necessarily abuse don't in some way have an issue in their lives that triggers that response.

 

[doowain]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

 

[Christo]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

That was going to be my next question.

For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

From a couple of pages back.

I have already stated that I have not hit my kids with the belt and didnt think I would.

My father would and just a few off of the top:

1. We (4 of us) decided to go behind the neighborhood apartments (a very wooded area) and see just how kerosene burns. We used an empty corn can and stacked some stuff in and around it and lit it up. A passer by yelled fire and we all ran off. The fire company put out the fire which maybe got 2 foot wide. The cops caught us and proceeded to call our parents. My mom picked me up and when I walked in Dad was on the couch...he asked if I was OK and I said yes. He then stood up, reached behind the pillow on the couch and proceeded to give me some whacks and send me to my room. It hurt. I never played with fire again.

2. I liked to try out wrestling moves on my siblings in my spare time. I just saw this cool piledriver thing I wanted to test out. Prior to this I was warned multiple times about the dangers of these moves. Anyway, the piledriver didnt go over well with my brother (couple stitches in his mouth, hurty head etc) or my dad...a couple more whacks were handed down.

I was around 12 in both of these

 

[doowain]

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

I have already stated that I have not hit my kids with the belt and didnt think I would.My father would and just a few off of the top:1. We (4 of us) decided to go behind the neighborhood apartments (a very wooded area) and see just how kerosene burns. We used an empty corn can and stacked some stuff in and around it and lit it up. A passer by yelled fire and we all ran off. The fire company put out the fire which maybe got 2 foot wide. The cops caught us and proceeded to call our parents. My mom picked me up and when I walked in Dad was on the couch...he asked if I was OK and I said yes. He then stood up, reached behind the pillow on the couch and proceeded to give me some whacks and send me to my room. It hurt. I never played with fire again. 2. I liked to try out wrestling moves on my siblings in my spare time. I just saw this cool piledriver thing I wanted to test out. Prior to this I was warned multiple times about the dangers of these moves. Anyway, the piledriver didnt go over well with my brother (couple stitches in his mouth, hurty head etc) or my dad...a couple more whacks were handed down. I was around 12 in both of these

From a couple of pages back.

All of these were deserving. Not abuse in the slightest.

 

[Random]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

So the belt was the first thing your parents used to let you know these actions were unacceptable? Or had you done them repeatedly and other forms of punishment failed?

 

[doowain]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

So the belt was the first thing your parents used to let you know these actions were unacceptable? Or had you done them repeatedly and other forms of punishment failed?

I was taught that I'd better not start a fight, but if someone else does I'd better finish it. Hand in hand with that, if I hit someone, I'd expect to be hit back.Using that logic, if I hit my sister and am sent to my room, what lesson do I learn? The consequences at home are softer than on the playground?

 

[crackattack]

Yes it is.

 

[Random]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

So the belt was the first thing your parents used to let you know these actions were unacceptable? Or had you done them repeatedly and other forms of punishment failed?

I was taught that I'd better not start a fight, but if someone else does I'd better finish it. Hand in hand with that, if I hit someone, I'd expect to be hit back.Using that logic, if I hit my sister and am sent to my room, what lesson do I learn? The consequences at home are softer than on the playground?

Are you hitting a 200lb adult on the playground?

 

[belljr]

Have kids, voted yes but we chose to not do it.

So basically, I have no issues with it as a form of punishment in some instances, same as a spanking.

This is the part I don't understand. I don't think it's the same as a spanking at all.

How is it different? We chose to not do that with our kids (more my wife's doing )How is a belt 1 or 2 times on the bottom different than a hand spanking...

As I spoke from when I was a child if I really ####ed up, like got caught playing with matches ####ed up, I got the belt. My parents only had to do this one or 2 times to me and then the "threat" was always there. It's not like I spilled milk " GET THE BELT OUT"

You really don't see how using an object specifically designed to inflict more pain is different from a smack of your open hand? Are all objects the same then?

When other methods didn't work and I almost set the house on fire, I deserved the pain.Less degree I remember 2 times, being grounded, still mouthed off and got a light slap in the mouth

But I also drove my dads car sitting on his lap without seatbelts

Again, I remember being hit with a belt maybe 2 or 3 times, and spanked a few more. It was definitely not the norm and was rare. My parents also used other methods, I won't lie either and know a couple of spanks were out of anger and frustration

 

[doowain]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

So the belt was the first thing your parents used to let you know these actions were unacceptable? Or had you done them repeatedly and other forms of punishment failed?

I was taught that I'd better not start a fight, but if someone else does I'd better finish it. Hand in hand with that, if I hit someone, I'd expect to be hit back.Using that logic, if I hit my sister and am sent to my room, what lesson do I learn? The consequences at home are softer than on the playground?

Are you hitting a 200lb adult on the playground?

Considering the obesity of children these days, it's quite possible.I see the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't fly IMO. No one is saying to punch your kid. THAT is abuse.

 

[Mjolnirs]

I was spanked plenty of times as a child. I see some of you remembering each time and what it was for. I can't do that, but I know I pretty much deserved what I got. 95% of the time it was with a belt, the other 5%? Anyone ever had to go pick out your own switch? And it better be a good one!

As I have posted, I spanked both my kids when they were younger, son and daughter. Why? I can't remember specifics. My kids are 24 and nearly 20 so I haven't handed out a spanking in well over a decade.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

That was going to be my next question.For those of us that were spanked with a belt, do you remember what it was for? I think there is a pretty distinct line between abuse and disciplinary action. If you get 10 whacks for dropping an egg in the kitchen, that's abuse. If you use that egg to paint your neighbors car, it's not.

One time I hit my sister.One time I threw a toy at a baby sitter and hit her.And one time I got in trouble for something else and was sent to my room. I decided the punishment was too harsh so I took a hammer to my wall.

Well this history of being a violent little lad explains why you always defend violent people on this forum.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

If my unborn kid gets out of line or disrespectful he's getting that belt.

If he gets waaaay out of line, you could give him a stern abortion.. He'll never do it again, I promise ~planned parenthood~

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

 

[ZBTHorton]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

 

[ZBTHorton]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

 

[Clifford]

Sure

how many kids you got?

For those that advocate beating their kids with a belt, please man up and tell us what your kids were beaten for? Id be interested to hear the last 2-3 times you used the belt and what the offenses were. Lots of tough guys on this board but not a lot of details and the devil is in the details.

There are no tough guys on this board, and if there are, the guys acting like tough guys would be the first to piss themselves when confronted with an actual tough guy.

 

[General Malaise]

When we look back at history, we refer to the whips used on the bare backs of slaves as a 'beating', though it was the choice of punishment during the era. I think we are advancing enough as a society to look at the use of a belt on the bare skin of a child in much the same manner. My mother's childhood friend growing up received cigarette burns on his skin as a form of punishment and that very well may have been viewed as a proper and acceptable form of punishment in the 50s. It's not now (though I'm sure somebody will argue to the contrary).

I look at a belt much like I would a whip. You can crack somebody pretty damn hard and do major damage with both (re-read Menobrowns poignant post if you have any doubts the severity of damage a belt can cause a child). A whip is a beating. Why is a belt any different? Because it's functional use is to hold up pants?

 

[Apple Jack]

Sure

how many kids you got?

For those that advocate beating their kids with a belt, please man up and tell us what your kids were beaten for? Id be interested to hear the last 2-3 times you used the belt and what the offenses were. Lots of tough guys on this board but not a lot of details and the devil is in the details.

There are no tough guys on this board, and if there are, the guys acting like tough guys would be the first to piss themselves when confronted with an actual tough guy.

C'mon man, whipping kids with leather belts is as American as Hummers and ranch dressing.

 

[Clifford]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

What kind of redneck circles do you run in dude? The people involved in that decision never got over it. I mean, I know people who supported it as a measure to avoid a ground assault on Japan that would have led to much more massive casualties on both sides, but I don't know anyone who didn't object to the sheer horror unleashed upon the people that lived there.Similar to Dresden bombings...except more excusable.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is physical violence against another person. Why do people have such a hard time seeing this?And please don't insult yourself by saying spankings don't hurt. If they don't hurt, they have zero effect which makes spanking even dumber.

 

[Usual21]

I have a question for those who continue to refer to it this way; Why does using a belt have to be "beating" your kid?As I said before, I don't have kids, so I'm not sure what I'll do when it comes time. I was spanked with a belt when I was a kid, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Will I do it? I don't know. Do I think it's acceptable? Absolutely. And that was the question of the thread.

My Dad used a belt on me three times. He didn't abuse me. I remember each time and each time was deserved.

This.He also used to do that cool thing where you fold the belt back onto itself and then open the space in between and then snap it shut. Scared the #### out of me. My grandma once got me with a switch. THAT hurt more than anything.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is physical violence against another person. Why do people have such a hard time seeing this?And please don't insult yourself by saying spankings don't hurt. If they don't hurt, they have zero effect which makes spanking even dumber.

if you break the law they dont whip the perp, they send him on a time out(prison)why is it ok to whip a kid?

 

[mr roboto]

I'm pretty sure 'ok' is not the same as 'I do it regularly.'

HTH.

 

[General Malaise]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

 

[Christo]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

They don't want to get sued by parents who don't believe in hitting their children.

 

[doowain]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

Because steers don't run schools in Texas.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesPoor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesSwearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesCatch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and SpankingAnd when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. SpankingChildren respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

 

[simey]

I got spanked with a belt once. My mom did all the spanking when I was younger (my dad traveled all the time), and she usually used her hand or one of those paddles that had a ball on a string attached to it. We were never bare bottomed when she spanked us, and it was always deserved. My siblings and I were generally good and didn't get spanked too often. When I got the belt it was because she couldn't find the paddle. What happened is a neighbor had taught me cuss words, and I rehearsed them for about a week, and my mom warned me not to say them. One day I thought it would be a neat idea to write them on a neighborhood park picnic table. I can't remember how mom found out, but she did and I got popped in the buttocks with a belt, and then handed some washing liquid and a rag to wash the words off the park bench. My short love affair with cuss words came to an abrupt end. I would resume it later in life.

 

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When we look back at history, we refer to the whips used on the bare backs of slaves as a 'beating', though it was the choice of punishment during the era. I think we are advancing enough as a society to look at the use of a belt on the bare skin of a child in much the same manner.

wow

 

[Carolina Hustler]

When we look back at history, we refer to the whips used on the bare backs of slaves as a 'beating', though it was the choice of punishment during the era. I think we are advancing enough as a society to look at the use of a belt on the bare skin of a child in much the same manner. My mother's childhood friend growing up received cigarette burns on his skin as a form of punishment and that very well may have been viewed as a proper and acceptable form of punishment in the 50s. It's not now (though I'm sure somebody will argue to the contrary). I look at a belt much like I would a whip. You can crack somebody pretty damn hard and do major damage with both (re-read Menobrowns poignant post if you have any doubts the severity of damage a belt can cause a child). A whip is a beating. Why is a belt any different? Because it's functional use is to hold up pants?

Because a belt spanking on pantzed bum isn't going to do damage, it's going to sting for a moment..Comparing a belt spanking given by a responsible and loving parent to a whip used on a slave is

 

[Carolina Hustler]

When we look back at history, we refer to the whips used on the bare backs of slaves as a 'beating', though it was the choice of punishment during the era. I think we are advancing enough as a society to look at the use of a belt on the bare skin of a child in much the same manner.

wow

I thought the cigarette burn comment was funnier..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

What kind of redneck circles do you run in dude? The people involved in that decision never got over it. I mean, I know people who supported it as a measure to avoid a ground assault on Japan that would have led to much more massive casualties on both sides, but I don't know anyone who didn't object to the sheer horror unleashed upon the people that lived there.Similar to Dresden bombings...except more excusable.

Can you not tell by my on line personality (Carolina Hustler) that I currently live in the south..? But there are plenty here on this forum that have no problem with it..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is physical violence against another person. Why do people have such a hard time seeing this?And please don't insult yourself by saying spankings don't hurt. If they don't hurt, they have zero effect which makes spanking even dumber.

When did I say that? A spanking is meant to hurt.. But not to damage..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is physical violence against another person. Why do people have such a hard time seeing this?And please don't insult yourself by saying spankings don't hurt. If they don't hurt, they have zero effect which makes spanking even dumber.

if you break the law they dont whip the perp, they send him on a time out(prison)why is it ok to whip a kid?

Ever heard of capital punishment?And a spanking is typically a last resort isn't it? When Grounding and/or loss of privileges doesn't work? Or when a child has exceeded a decided threshold where grounding or loss of privileged doesn't cut it.. Right?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

Because you aren't in middle school anymore?

 

[goonsquad]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

They don't want to get sued by parents who don't believe in hitting their children.

So you would be ok with a school hitting your child?

 

[Christo]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

They don't want to get sued by parents who don't believe in hitting their children.

So you would be ok with a school hitting your child?

As long as the parameters were understood beforehand and then adhered to.