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What a complete joke that dude is. Completely full of crap.It's a gun, but the guy who made the "it was like a guided tour" comment is the one screaming in terror behind him.
What a complete joke that dude is. Completely full of crap.It's a gun, but the guy who made the "it was like a guided tour" comment is the one screaming in terror behind him.
I don't think that's it. He'd just lie. This is about his political future and he thinks he needs Trump to have one.Grace Under Pressure said:Of course he opposes the inquiry. He called Donald Trump on the phone on 1/6 to tell him to call off the insurrecting mob, and was told (paraphrasing) that "they must want it more than you do Kevin." He likely would be subpoenaed and have to testify about this under oath.
I can answer this - at least from my experience. The Confederate flag stuff has two main groups - those who use it for racist/white supremacy purposes and those who are proud of being from the South. For the latter, think of the SEC honks chanting SEC! Just like there’s pride in being an American in some groups and with some people there’s pride in being a Southerner. Things like GRITS (Girl Raised in The South), Southern by the grace of God and the like. Some of the people who wear the flag or fly it don’t know anything about the Confederacy, have never had a discussion with an African American about how it makes them feel and honestly in many cases don’t care to learn - they are proud to be a Southerner and don’t want anybody to tell them otherwise. It’s more complex and messy than that but if you are trying to understand why a person may support Confederate heritage that’s a good place to start.I want to 'get' the Confederate cultural heritage stuff and I wish I were more empathetic to it but I can't move past the basic understanding that the Confederacy waged war against the United States, that is, tried to break the UNITED states mainly because of disallowing slavery. I just can't and I'm normally a fan of tradition and custom.
I have no issue with being proud to be a southerner. I am proud of where I am from as well. I would think there are other ways to show your southern pride than to fly a flag that represents an attack on the United States and our history of slavery. If there are well-intentioned people flying it, it purely out of ignorance.I can answer this - at least from my experience. The Confederate flag stuff has two main groups - those who use it for racist/white supremacy purposes and those who are proud of being from the South. For the latter, think of the SEC honks chanting SEC! Just like there’s pride in being an American in some groups and with some people there’s pride in being a Southerner. Things like GRITS (Girl Raised in The South), Southern by the grace of God and the like. Some of the people who wear the flag or fly it don’t know anything about the Confederacy, have never had a discussion with an African American about how it makes them feel and honestly in many cases don’t care to learn - they are proud to be a Southerner and don’t want anybody to tell them otherwise. It’s more complex and messy than that but if you are trying to understand why a person may support Confederate heritage that’s a good place to start.
Note - this is just my explanation based on experience and not a justification for any of it. My personal take is I have no problem with someone being proud of being a Southerner - I’m a Southerner and proud of it. But you are responsible for educating yourself and being aware of how things make others feel and react appropriately.
Is there really much difference between these two groups?Nobody is denying there was not a significant number of racists groups there. But there were also people there who just believed their culture was under attack.
They weren't just there to try to overturn the election, they were also raging against Ross lobbying for a non-white girlfriend on Friends. (What culture is under attack, how, and by whom?)
It is a weird concept that the left believes whites must be ashamed of their culture or they are racists. Everyone else gets to be proud of their culture and celebrate it. But no, whites must be ashamed, we must tear them down and accuse them of being evil. This mindset is disturbing, divisive and hateful and a huge contributor to the unrest in this country. Tear down their leaders, tear down their religion, cleans the history books of positive contributions. This is not the path to a unified healthy country where all people respect each other.Is there really much difference between these two groups?
What culture are you referring to?It is a weird concept that the left believes whites must be ashamed of their culture or they are racists. Everyone else gets to be proud of their culture and celebrate it. But no, whites must be ashamed, we must tear them down and accuse them of being evil. This mindset is disturbing, divisive and hateful and a huge contributor to the unrest in this country. Tear down their leaders, tear down their religion, cleans the history books of positive contributions. This is not the path to a unified healthy country where all people respect each other.
"the left" does not believe this.It is a weird concept that the left believes whites must be ashamed of their culture or they are racists. Everyone else gets to be proud of their culture and celebrate it. But no, whites must be ashamed, we must tear them down and accuse them of being evil. This mindset is disturbing, divisive and hateful and a huge contributor to the unrest in this country. Tear down their leaders, tear down their religion, cleans the history books of positive contributions. This is not the path to a unified healthy country where all people respect each other.
Probably a mixture of heritage and culture to be more accurate. But we are supposed to be ashamed of our racist constitution and our slave-owning founding fathers and ignore the brilliance and the freedom it has spurred around the world. Shoot, even Lincoln is under attack by some. Alll our inventions and success we are told is stolen from or on the backs of minorities. No matter how poor or how many obstacles whites have overcome, white privilege is what defines whites. We are taking down statues, removing names from institutions and schools, cleansing the history books.What culture are you referring to?
Then who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it."the left" does not believe this.
I have come to the conclusion that schools should only be named for teachers. Namaste.Probably a mixture of heritage and culture to be more accurate. But we are supposed to be ashamed of our racist constitution and our slave-owning founding fathers and ignore the brilliance and the freedom it has spurred around the world. Shoot, even Lincoln is under attack by some. Alll our inventions and success we are told is stolen from or on the backs of minorities. No matter how poor or how many obstacles whites have overcome, white privilege is what defines whites. We are taking down statues, removing names from institutions and schools, cleansing the history books.
Like what?Then who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it.
Should we be honoring people who took up arms - and lost - against the country?Probably a mixture of heritage and culture to be more accurate. But we are supposed to be ashamed of our racist constitution and our slave-owning founding fathers and ignore the brilliance and the freedom it has spurred around the world. Shoot, even Lincoln is under attack by some. Alll our inventions and success we are told is stolen from or on the backs of minorities. No matter how poor or how many obstacles whites have overcome, white privilege is what defines whites. We are taking down statues, removing names from institutions and schools, cleansing the history books.
It seems to me the people who want to rewrite history are those who want to ignore the bad parts. So some of our founding fathers were slave owners - should that be forgotten? Should they continue to be honored even if that greatly offends a major portion of our citizens?Then who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it.
It’s funny to post about rewriting history in this thread.Then who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it.
Nobody is rewriting historyThen who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it.
Except those who want to teach the "good" parts of slavery or ignore it altogether.Nobody is rewriting history
Who's doing that?Except those who want to teach the "good" parts of slavery or ignore it altogether.
then maybe stop posting that "the left" is doing things.Then who are these mysterious people who are taking down statues, rewriting history, shaming whites.....sure seems like all of this is coming from the left. Doesn't mean all leftist, but certainly this is where it is coming from. But please, avoid the point and deflect by being offended and mocking it.
Louisiana State Rep. Ray Garafalo, "If you're teaching, if you're having a discussion on, whatever the case may be, on slavery, and you can talk about everything dealing with slavery. The good, the bad, the ugly, the whole ..."Who's doing that?
False narratives need to be rewritten. The way the January 6th events were mischaracterize and reported by the media is criminal.It’s funny to post about rewriting history in this thread.
If you can not talk generally what these groups stand for, then the terms are useless. This anti-white wokeness is major part of the fabric which makes up the left. In fact it is the number 1 focus of the media and big tech censorship.then maybe stop posting that "the left" is doing things.
yes, there is % on the left doing those things.
just find it hypocritical that I hear that Conservatives are frustrated with they think is being painted as a wide brush- bigots, racists, etc. but then I see a ton of that lobbed at the other side.
It's not anti-white. It is hey stupid white people, snap out of your delusional fantasies and join the rest of the world. Just the stupid white people. Stupid being the important word there. There are stupid people of all stripes. Stupid white people in the US are a special breed though.If you can not talk generally what these groups stand for, then the terms are useless. This anti-white wokeness is major part of the fabric which makes up the left. In fact it is the number 1 focus of the media and big tech censorship.
What's white culture?It is a weird concept that the left believes whites must be ashamed of their culture or they are racists. Everyone else gets to be proud of their culture and celebrate it. But no, whites must be ashamed, we must tear them down and accuse them of being evil. This mindset is disturbing, divisive and hateful and a huge contributor to the unrest in this country. Tear down their leaders, tear down their religion, cleans the history books of positive contributions. This is not the path to a unified healthy country where all people respect each other.
Absurd.False narratives need to be rewritten. The way the January 6th events were mischaracterize and reported by the media is criminal.
Wonder bread, twizzlers, twinkies, and Kix cereal.What's white culture?
Asked by a guy who regularly attends, celebrates and enjoys people celebrating German, Polish, Greek, Italian and Irish parades, festivals and events.
Explain "white" culture.
lol....yep, stupid white people with all their privilege. The left in this country has no empathy towards whites. Really treat them as subhuman.It's not anti-white. It is hey stupid white people, snap out of your delusional fantasies and join the rest of the world. Just the stupid white people. Stupid being the important word there. There are stupid people of all stripes. Stupid white people in the US are a special breed though.
Other people's suck doesn't make our suck suck less.lol....yep, stupid white people with all their privilege. The left in this country has no empathy towards whites. Really treat them as subhuman.
BTW, the rest of the world is a lot more racist than the US. We live in by far the most integrated society in the world, which is why the tensions are higher. Europeans can get away with being racist jerks far more than Americans can because the vast majority of people here are intolerant of racism.
It's something that's always confused me....coming from the East Coast Megaopolis; where ethnicty is celebrated amongst large swaths of people. I'd hear people talk "white" culture and oftentimes, when asked about it; two narratives would come forth. 1) White culture is synonomous with American culture or 2) the concept of white culture was seen as a unifiying type of message/statement for Caucasians to throw back at minority cultures. Either way, it's not very good.Wonder bread, twizzlers, twinkies, and Kix cereal.
Unfortunately there is suckiness on both sides. You don't solve suckiness between races by demonizing and belitting people because of their race. We are in an endless loop of suckiness.Other people's suck doesn't make our suck suck less.
False narratives need to be rewritten. The way the January 6th events were mischaracterize and reported by the media is criminal.
I guess you are in support of a bipartisan congressional committee to investigate the violence committed on January 6....False narratives need to be rewritten. The way the January 6th events were mischaracterize and reported by the media is criminal.
Raw, unfiltered reactions from Republicans:False narratives need to be rewritten. The way the January 6th events were mischaracterize and reported by the media is criminal.
violence?I guess you are in support of a bipartisan congressional committee to investigate the violence committed on January 6....
What an amazing thing to say based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever.lol....yep, stupid white people with all their privilege. The left in this country has no empathy towards whites. Really treat them as subhuman.
BTW, the rest of the world is a lot more racist than the US. We live in by far the most integrated society in the world, which is why the tensions are higher. Europeans can get away with being racist jerks far more than Americans can because the vast majority of people here are intolerant of racism.
very few, mostly peaceful protest. Watch the videosHow many officers were injured?
Can you get please post a video that you think is representative of that day?very few, mostly peaceful protest. Watch the videos
https://www.newsweek.com/people-alabama-insist-slaves-were-not-treated-badly-viral-video-1587031Who's doing that?
Here is some video for you.
Can you get please post a video that you think is representative of that day?