Jeremy Hill, RB (LVR) (1 Viewer)

[Kitrick Taylor]

Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

Agree, but not this year.

I would say that's TBD. They tried to give Gio the full load and he didn't hold up.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

Agree, but not this year.

I would say that's TBD. They tried to give Gio the full load and he didn't hold up.

RBs get hurt, this is no surprise... Hill could get hurt too.

Most in this thread get emotional bc they keep hoping Hill is the lottery ticket this year... While Hillman looks like he could be, Hill does not.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

Agree, but not this year.

I would say that's TBD. They tried to give Gio the full load and he didn't hold up.

RBs get hurt, this is no surprise... Hill could get hurt too.

Most in this thread get emotional bc they keep hoping Hill is the lottery ticket this year... While Hillman looks like he could be, Hill does not.

Barring Gio missing substantially more time , I don't think Hill is the redraft lottery ticket hit this year. I do think he's pretty darn good though, and I would think it would be a bit of a surprise if he didn't get more carries post Gio injury.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

Agree, but not this year.

I would say that's TBD. They tried to give Gio the full load and he didn't hold up.

RBs get hurt, this is no surprise... Hill could get hurt too.

Most in this thread get emotional bc they keep hoping Hill is the lottery ticket this year... While Hillman looks like he could be, Hill does not.

Barring Gio missing substantially more time , I don't think Hill is the redraft lottery ticket hit this year. I do think he's pretty darn good though, and I would think it would be a bit of a surprise if he didn't get more carries post Gio injury.

Agreed, with Gio in the lineup (which looks to be 1 or 2 weeks at most away) his upside is limited. With Gio back, a Hill owner basically needs a TD to have a decent game from him.

 

[mnmplayer]

Has a study ever been done on avg yards per carry by quarter? I've played ff an awfully long time, and have learned to expect 8/22 kind of production in the first qtr more often than not. Obviously there are exceptions, but that seems much more normal than a high ypc start.

I'm not sure why there is so much combativeness in this thread. Hill is a darn good player. He may very well be the best back from this underrated class. Seems to have some pretty nice wiggle for a big guy, good enough speed, and good hands. Bengals got a good one. Gio has proven to be a good back too. Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

[SIZE=medium]I applaud the thought process, and I see where you are going with this, however let me preface the following with saying TB is widely regarded as one of the worst offensive rushing offenses in the league and rank 30th, near the bottom. Here is what Bobby Rainey did to the same CLE defense as the starter only 4 days prior:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](14:56) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 25 for 5 yards (56-K.Dansby).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](13:32) 43-B.Rainey right guard to TB 44 for 10 yards (39-T.Gipson).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](11:56) 43-B.Rainey right guard to CLE 43 for 4 yards (23-J.Haden; 31-D.Whitner).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](10:39) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 13 for 3 yards (71-A.Rubin; 58-C.Kirksey).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](5:45) (Shotgun) 8-M.Glennon pass short right to 43-B.Rainey to CLE 39 for 34 yards (22-B.Skrine).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](2:32) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 12 for 4 yards (70-S.Fua; 71-A.Rubin).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](1:49) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 20 for 3 yards (53-C.Robertson; 39-T.Gipson).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]6/29 ground (4.8ypc) 1/34 rec, 63 yards on 7 touches 9 yards per touch[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Q2[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](12:59) 43-B.Rainey right end to TB 38 for 7 yards (31-D.Whitner). Pitch Out[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](12:23) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 47 for 9 yards (39-T.Gipson).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](11:39) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 44 for 4 yards (92-D.Bryant).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](11:00) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 23 for 21 yards (31-D.Whitner).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](9:34) (Shotgun) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 24 for 3 yards (99-P.Kruger).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](8:30) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 15 for -5 yards (92-D.Bryant; 97-J.Sheard).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](6:13) 43-B.Rainey right tackle to TB 45 for 9 yards (31-D.Whitner). Pitch Out[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](5:37) 43-B.Rainey right guard to TB 49 for 4 yards (56-K.Dansby).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](4:26) 43-B.Rainey left tackle to CLE 30 for -1 yards (92-D.Bryant; 53-C.Robertson).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]9/72 (8ypc)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Total first half numbers 15/102 (6.8 ypc) and 1/34 8.5 per touch. Now this shows early and often success in the run game by a poor rushing attack vs a poor CLE rush defense. This was the reason I thought Hill would have a good game yesterday. One of the worst rushing teams in the NFL simply had their way with CLE on the ground only 4 days prior, and Hill would get to feed off this on only 4 days rest under windy conditions. He had only been the starter one game prior and not much use in the season thus far. He was fresh. The stage was set for a huge game. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]There is just no way to candy coat the fact that Hill majorly whiffed on his opportunity. I think he knows this and that is why he is lashing out to reporters and saying stupid things. IMO its only making him look foolish and worse in the eyes of his coaches. He would do better to just shut up, like his apologists, because the more that we uncover, the worse it looks. Hopefully he can bounce back for his sake.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium] A sidebar to this is how it also shows how smart Lovie is for abandoning the run in the 2nd half during a close game last week. He puts the ball into Glennon's hands then benches him the next week instead of sticking with a running game that is gashing CLE. I put that loss on Lovie.[/SIZE]

 

[Judge Smails]

I was actually more encouraged by what I saw from Hill last night, not less. If Dalton could have kept a single drive alive I'm confident he would have been over 100 again. Had 2 points taken off with illegal man downfield too. I just didn't like the fumble -but even though he's put in on the ground 2 weeks in a row he's supposedly not a fumbler.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Has a study ever been done on avg yards per carry by quarter? I've played ff an awfully long time, and have learned to expect 8/22 kind of production in the first qtr more often than not. Obviously there are exceptions, but that seems much more normal than a high ypc start.

I'm not sure why there is so much combativeness in this thread. Hill is a darn good player. He may very well be the best back from this underrated class. Seems to have some pretty nice wiggle for a big guy, good enough speed, and good hands. Bengals got a good one. Gio has proven to be a good back too. Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

I applaud the thought process, and I see where you are going with this, however let me preface the following with saying TB is widely regarded as one of the worst offensive rushing offenses in the league and rank 30th, near the bottom. Here is what Bobby Rainey did to the same CLE defense as the starter only 4 days prior:

(14:56) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 25 for 5 yards (56-K.Dansby).

(13:32) 43-B.Rainey right guard to TB 44 for 10 yards (39-T.Gipson).

(11:56) 43-B.Rainey right guard to CLE 43 for 4 yards (23-J.Haden; 31-D.Whitner).

(10:39) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 13 for 3 yards (71-A.Rubin; 58-C.Kirksey).

(5:45) (Shotgun) 8-M.Glennon pass short right to 43-B.Rainey to CLE 39 for 34 yards (22-B.Skrine).

(2:32) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 12 for 4 yards (70-S.Fua; 71-A.Rubin).

(1:49) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 20 for 3 yards (53-C.Robertson; 39-T.Gipson).

6/29 ground (4.8ypc) 1/34 rec, 63 yards on 7 touches 9 yards per touch

Q2

(12:59) 43-B.Rainey right end to TB 38 for 7 yards (31-D.Whitner). Pitch Out

(12:23) 43-B.Rainey left guard to TB 47 for 9 yards (39-T.Gipson).

(11:39) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 44 for 4 yards (92-D.Bryant).

(11:00) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 23 for 21 yards (31-D.Whitner).

(9:34) (Shotgun) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 24 for 3 yards (99-P.Kruger).

(8:30) 43-B.Rainey left guard to CLE 15 for -5 yards (92-D.Bryant; 97-J.Sheard).

(6:13) 43-B.Rainey right tackle to TB 45 for 9 yards (31-D.Whitner). Pitch Out

(5:37) 43-B.Rainey right guard to TB 49 for 4 yards (56-K.Dansby).

(4:26) 43-B.Rainey left tackle to CLE 30 for -1 yards (92-D.Bryant; 53-C.Robertson).

9/72 (8ypc)

Total first half numbers 15/102 (6.8 ypc) and 1/34 8.5 per touch. Now this shows early and often success in the run game by a poor rushing attack vs a poor CLE rush defense. This was the reason I thought Hill would have a good game yesterday. One of the worst rushing teams in the NFL simply had their way with CLE on the ground only 4 days prior, and Hill would get to feed off this on only 4 days rest under windy conditions. He had only been the starter one game prior and not much use in the season thus far. He was fresh. The stage was set for a huge game.

There is just no way to candy coat the fact that Hill majorly whiffed on his opportunity. I think he knows this and that is why he is lashing out to reporters and saying stupid things. IMO its only making him look foolish and worse in the eyes of his coaches. He would do better to just shut up, like his apologists, because the more that we uncover, the worse it looks. Hopefully he can bounce back for his sake.

A sidebar to this is how it also shows how smart Lovie is for abandoning the run in the 2nd half during a close game last week. He puts the ball into Glennon's hands then benches him the next week instead of sticking with a running game that is gashing CLE. I put that loss on Lovie.

I've seen you make some good posts here, but I think you're missing the mark in this one. I watched every snap of that horrific game last night. The Browns were on national TV for the first time in forever. They were totally amped up to play this game, and it showed. Dalton was also historically bad last night. He couldn't keep a drive alive. Missed throw after throw. He didn't just miss by a little either. I think it was Sanu that had two steps on his guy in the end zone. Dalton missed by no less than 5 yards.

My takeaway from that game as far as the Bengals go, was that the coaching staff still doesn't have a clue what to do when Dalton has one of his bad games. In all seriousness, when it was obvious in the 2nd Qtr that Dalton was going to be awful, they should have just called every running play they had in their play book. The RBs should have combined for 40 touches last night. It was their only chance.

I don't want to make excuses for Hill, but the guy did put his helmet on the ball to force it loose. Hill wasn't holding it carelessly at the time. Outside of that part of one play, I thought he looked pretty darn good.

 

[Dutch Kincade]

Funny how people see things completely different. When I saw that fumble I thought it was hysterically bad. An airborne launched fumble the second a defender glanced across his elbow. Not good.

 

[weebs]

Funny how people see things completely different. When I saw that fumble I thought it was hysterically bad. An airborne launched fumble the second a defender glanced across his elbow. Not good.

Not saying it was a good or bad fumble but you saw a defender glance across his elbow? We must have watched different games because I saw a defender use his helment to jar the ball loose.

 

[J R]

Funny how people see things completely different. When I saw that fumble I thought it was hysterically bad. An airborne launched fumble the second a defender glanced across his elbow. Not good.

Not saying it was a good or bad fumble but you saw a defender glance across his elbow? We must have watched different games because I saw a defender use his helment to jar the ball loose.

I saw it as you did.

 

[humpback]

Here it is.

 

[Jack White]

Long term this is gonna be a timeshare IMO. Probably exactly what the Bengals were hoping for.

Agree, but not this year.

I would say that's TBD. They tried to give Gio the full load and he didn't hold up.

RBs get hurt, this is no surprise... Hill could get hurt too.

Most in this thread get emotional bc they keep hoping Hill is the lottery ticket this year... While Hillman looks like he could be, Hill does not.

Barring Gio missing substantially more time , I don't think Hill is the redraft lottery ticket hit this year. I do think he's pretty darn good though, and I would think it would be a bit of a surprise if he didn't get more carries post Gio injury.

Agreed, with Gio in the lineup (which looks to be 1 or 2 weeks at most away) his upside is limited. With Gio back, a Hill owner basically needs a TD to have a decent game from him.

I won't be starting Hill when Gio comes back.

He's a lottery ticket only insofar he's the man when Gio is out, and he is a talented player.

As for Hillman, he gets to run against light boxes courtesy of Peyton and Co. Meanwhile Dalton . . .

 

[LittlePhatty]

Here it is.

He could have protected it better, but I'd say that was also an equal part of bad luck - the defender's helmet hit his forearm at a glancing angle that rolled it down.

The good news is Hill doesn't have a history of fumbling.

 

[JohnnyU]

Funny how people see things completely different. When I saw that fumble I thought it was hysterically bad. An airborne launched fumble the second a defender glanced across his elbow. Not good.

Not saying it was a good or bad fumble but you saw a defender glance across his elbow? We must have watched different games because I saw a defender use his helment to jar the ball loose.

Is there ever a good fumble lost?

 

[cvnpoka]

sometimes they are unavoidable. that fumble was just poor technique. rbs obv need to protect the ball with 2 hands while running into contact in the middle of the field. def a careless play.

 

[humpback]

Funny how people see things completely different. When I saw that fumble I thought it was hysterically bad. An airborne launched fumble the second a defender glanced across his elbow. Not good.

Not saying it was a good or bad fumble but you saw a defender glance across his elbow? We must have watched different games because I saw a defender use his helment to jar the ball loose.

Is there ever a good fumble lost?

No, but they aren't all hysterically bad either.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Giovani Bernard (hip) remained sidelined at Wednesday's practice.

Bernard is off on the wrong foot once again. Jeremy Hill is the early favorite to handle every-down duties in Week 11 against the Saints. Coming off a clunker last Thursday night, Hill is shaping up as a high-end RB2 against New Orleans' middle-of-the-pack run defense. We'll update Bernard no later than Thursday.
Source: Coley Harvey on Twitter
Nov 12 - 12:11 PM

 

[chad in Indy]

Giovani Bernard (hip) remained sidelined at Wednesday's practice.

Bernard is off on the wrong foot once again. Jeremy Hill is the early favorite to handle every-down duties in Week 11 against the Saints. Coming off a clunker last Thursday night, Hill is shaping up as a high-end RB2 against New Orleans' middle-of-the-pack run defense. We'll update Bernard no later than Thursday.
Source: Coley Harvey on Twitter
Nov 12 - 12:11 PM

I hope he gets another shot to start this week. I also hope Cincy learns a lesson from last week and keeps to the run game. Never been a Dalton supporter as I think he has looked lost at times and is not very accurate.

 

[mnmplayer]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If Gio doesnt practice tomorrow in any fashion, I think it will be safe to say he wont play.

 

[Darryl Talley]

Would be an interesting matchup. Saints coming off a home loss and Cincy's defense is 30th in yards allowed. Smells like a blowout given the Bengals recent history. Dalton HAS to play well.

Hill would also be playing at home.

 

[One]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If they knew Gio would miss the ROS, at what point would they IR him?

 

[steveski]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If they knew Gio would miss the ROS, at what point would they IR him?

They probably already would have. There's still a lot of season left though so it would take a really bad injury to miss the rest of it. The injury obviously has turned out to be bigger than they led on, but unless he's for sure out another 2+ months, why would they IR him?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If they knew Gio would miss the ROS, at what point would they IR him?

It'd be immediately if they knew he'd miss the remainder of the year.

 

[One]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If they knew Gio would miss the ROS, at what point would they IR him?

It'd be immediately if they knew he'd miss the remainder of the year.

Makes sense. I guess I'm thinking more for the fantasy season. If the scenario is bad, they may have a timeframe with NFL playoffs in mind.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Because of his bad fantasy score last week some may be tempted to sit him. He is still going to get tons of opportunity and has the talent. Hopefully they call run plays more often since we all know Dalton is not good.

 

[mnmplayer]

Hill gets another shot, maybe? He has the talent to show something so lets see what happens this time.

He may be the starter for the rest of the year if Gio can't get healthy. Gio's had three weeks off now from what was described as a "no big deal" injury. Cinci is one of the worst at disclosing the seriousness of injuries.

If they knew Gio would miss the ROS, at what point would they IR him?

If were going to be IRed they would have done that already. They can't use short term IR because they already used it up on Eifert, so if they feel he will still be useful for this season or the playoffs (yeah, its possible), then they would be forced to keep him on the roster but inactive.

 

[jurb26]

Cinci would be fools to not emphasize the run game vs. NO, regardless of Gio's availability. I'd think they want to avoid a shoot out as Brees wins that battle nearly every time vs. Dalton.

 

[Jerry Curl]

NFL Network's Albert Breer reports the Bengals are "not expecting" Giovani Bernard (hip) to play Week 11 against the Saints.

Breer was the one who hinted last week that Bernard may be out through Week 11, and even longer. It'll be the Jeremy Hill show in the Cincinnati backfield once again. Coming off his Week 10 dud against the Browns, Hill will be a nice bounce-back high-end RB2 with RB1 upside. Frank Gore and Carlos Hyde combined to rush for 117 yards and two touchdowns on 27 carries against New Orleans last week. Barring a blowout by the Saints, Hill should see 20-plus touches.
Related: Jeremy Hill

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter
Nov 12 - 4:12 PM

 

[fred_1_15301]

Ok I'm riding this horse once again

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Ok I'm riding this horse once again

 

[andyk803]

Starting with 67% confidence.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Struggles vs. the run: The Saints were less successful against the run, especially early in the game while San Francisco built a 14-0 lead. That’s nothing new, though, against a San Francisco blocking scheme that has always created holes more consistently with pulling guards, etc., than any other Saints opponent I’ve seen. There were a few cases where the Saints’ big men got pushed back at the line of scrimmage, but it was more often a case of the 49ers laying a series of great blocks around the edges and into the linebackers.

The lowlight was Carlos Hyde’s 9-yard touchdown run in the first quarter. Galette got taken out on the edge by a hellacious crack-back block by Boldin that actually knocked Galette into Haralson’s path as well. Fullback Bruce Miller took out linebacker Curtis Lofton with a lead block. Humber took too shallow of an angle. Then safety Kenny Vaccaro whiffed badly in the open field after a nasty cutback.

choochoo!

 

[Darryl Talley]

Is he getting looks in the passing game?

 

[zftcg]

What kinds of trades or offers are people getting for Hill in standard-scoring leagues? I've been shopping him like crazy in package deals, but thinking maybe it's better to just do a straight-up RB-for-WR swap. So what is the WR comp?

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Well Dalton won't have to contend with the wind in the dome. Hill would have been fine had Dalton just been somewhat competent. Here's hoping...

 

[ghostguy123]

Dalton played one of the worst games for a QB I have ever seen, and I am a Brown fan so I have seen quite a few. He was so bad to the point that reincarnated Jim Brown wasn't going to have a good game had that mythical beast switched places with Hill.

I am starting Hill with a good amount of confidence. An average Dalton type game should produce 20+ touches with some catches mixed in, and he will be the guy in any goaline situations.

It's not like he didnt do anything with his touches against Cleveland (over 4.5 YPC I think), he just didnt get many touches because they didnt run that many plays and then were down big most of the 2nd half, plus no goaline chances cause Dalton was just simply not getting them near the goaline.

His fumble was pretty bad though.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

What kinds of trades or offers are people getting for Hill in standard-scoring leagues? I've been shopping him like crazy in package deals, but thinking maybe it's better to just do a straight-up RB-for-WR swap. So what is the WR comp?

I traded Moncrief and a late pick for him a couple weeks ago. Dynasty PPR

 

[ty247]

What kinds of trades or offers are people getting for Hill in standard-scoring leagues? I've been shopping him like crazy in package deals, but thinking maybe it's better to just do a straight-up RB-for-WR swap. So what is the WR comp?

I was offered a second round rookie pick and Jarvis Landry from a Gio owner.

 

[fruity pebbles]

i would peg his value at a late 1st right now. Maybe a pick in the 10-12 range imo.

 

[zftcg]

What about in redraft? I think you could milk some value out of "Who knows how much longer Gio will be out?" plus "Hill's earned a bigger role even when Gio returns".

I've been targeting disappointing WRs like Keenan Allen and Fitzgerald. Offered him straight up for Roddy White, but I view that as a reach.

 

[Rimez]

Well Dalton won't have to contend with the wind in the dome. Hill would have been fine had Dalton just been somewhat competent. Here's hoping...

The wind in the thurs game wasnt a factor. Phil sims just has a habit of picking a qb to win the game then becomes his apologist and homer, its really bad with the top guys like brady or manning, every duck or off target throw is "good play had to throw it out of bounds" or "the wr is supposed to be 2 yards deeper on that route". Hoyer was throwing strikes 40 yards down field, the weather wasnt the reason dalton was bad against the browns.

You will see tonight, if phils choice of orton or tannehill starts sucking he will be blaming the oline for not giving them a perfectly clean pocket for 16 seconds or the crowd for cheering too loud on 3rd down.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Well Dalton won't have to contend with the wind in the dome. Hill would have been fine had Dalton just been somewhat competent. Here's hoping...

The wind in the thurs game wasnt a factor. Phil sims just has a habit of picking a qb to win the game then becomes his apologist and homer, its really bad with the top guys like brady or manning, every duck or off target throw is "good play had to throw it out of bounds" or "the wr is supposed to be 2 yards deeper on that route". Hoyer was throwing strikes 40 yards down field, the weather wasnt the reason dalton was bad against the browns.You will see tonight, if phils choice of orton or tannehill starts sucking he will be blaming the oline for not giving them a perfectly clean pocket for 16 seconds or the crowd for cheering too loud on 3rd down.

All I saw were the flags whipping around. I had Simms on mute. Dalton was terrible no doubt. All I was trying to get at is that he'll have perfect conditions, so he can't possibly be that bad again....can he?

 

[meatwad1]

The only reason you don't start this guy is if you are just set at rb. He is going to get the full load against a crap defense. There is no way Dalton has a game like that again. I would not be surprised if he had the flu or something and he tried to tough it out. Dalton could not hit the broad side of a barn that evening!!!

 

[5-ish Finkle]

The only reason you don't start this guy is if you are just set at rb. He is going to get the full load against a crap defense. There is no way Dalton has a game like that again. I would not be surprised if he had the flu or something and he tried to tough it out. Dalton could not hit the broad side of a barn that evening!!!

Must've been the "Monday/Thursday Night Football Flu." Guy always looks terrible in prime time.

However, as you intimated, it's unlikely he plays the worst game of his career two games in a row. If Gio's still out, Hill's production has nowhere to go other than up in this one.

 

[dickey moe]

i would peg his value at a late 1st right now. Maybe a pick in the 10-12 range imo.

Wasn't that about where he was drafted in this year's rookie drafts (I picked him at 1.09 in one league). I would think his value has risen since then.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'll start him over Lesean McCoy again. Even with his dismal showing, he was only 2.6 points behind McCoy who won in a blowout.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

In case anyone missed this, Marvin Lewis gave his rookie some advice about barking at the other team after a loss.

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-ryan @RyInCBus HYPERLINK "/RyInCBus/status/532873104486572033"8h8 hours ago Marvin Lewis re: advice he gave Jeremy Hill after loss to #Browns... "You get your head beat in, just shut up, lick your wounds & move on."

 

[treat88]

i would peg his value at a late 1st right now. Maybe a pick in the 10-12 range imo.

Wasn't that about where he was drafted in this year's rookie drafts (I picked him at 1.09 in one league). I would think his value has risen since then.

Got him at 2.05 in a 16 team PPR.

Looking at this years class without knowing landing spots there's 7 or 8 guys I'd move him for, so a top 10 pick is probably a close estimate to his value.

 

[weebs]

Dropped him for Ryan Matthews in standard before the gio missed practice happened. Good or bad move?