Jordan-Rhodes Full Blown Committee? (1 Viewer)

[wickster33]

Looked at the play by play of last Sunday's game, and it looked like a pure RBBC. LJ had the first two series and thereafter they alternated. Is Lamont Jordan's fantasy value plummeting?

 

[wickster33]

Shameless bump, but I need info on whether Jordan will have value for the rest of the year. Anyone from raidernation with a little insight?

 

[Boltz Boy]

Watched most of the game as I had Jordan going, and I have to say I feel he's still the primary back. It seemed like the Raiders brought in Rhodes as a change-of-pace because the offense wasn't doing much. To be honest, Rhodes looked better, although it seemed when Jordan was in the Chiefs seemed to be selling out to stop the run. (The Raider touchdown drive came on two pass plays where the WR was wide open because everyone seemed keyed on Jordan.)

In the future, I think Jordan still gets the majority of the work, he should still get about 20 touches a game. Not nearly what he was getting early, but significantly more than any other back in that offense.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Watched most of the game as I had Jordan going, and I have to say I feel he's still the primary back. It seemed like the Raiders brought in Rhodes as a change-of-pace because the offense wasn't doing much. To be honest, Rhodes looked better, although it seemed when Jordan was in the Chiefs seemed to be selling out to stop the run. (The Raider touchdown drive came on two pass plays where the WR was wide open because everyone seemed keyed on Jordan.)In the future, I think Jordan still gets the majority of the work, he should still get about 20 touches a game. Not nearly what he was getting early, but significantly more than any other back in that offense.

Agree

 

[LionsFan78]

I don't see a full blown committee, barring injury, but I also don't think Jordan will get near the touches per game he got to start the season. He's still a decent start, and a must-start in PPR leagues.

 

[TheSpecialOne]

Upgrade for LaMont Jordan (and possibly Justin Fargas and Michael Bush).

From profootballtalk.com

POSTED 11:17 p.m. EDT, October 24, 2007

RAIDERS THINKING ABOUT DUMPING RHODES

A league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders are contemplating the possibility of releasing running back Dominic Rhodes.

Over the weekend, Jay Glazer FOX reported that Rhodes had been available via trade.

If Rhodes is released, he will be required to first pass through waivers. If he clears waivers, he will be an unrestricted free agent.

Rhodes arguably should have been named the MVP of Super Bowl XLI. He left the Colts via unrestricted free agency, and he prepped for his foray into free agency peeing all over himself in the back of a police cruiser. Allegedly. He later was suspended for the first four games of the 2007 season for violation of the substance-abuse policy.

 

[North]

Upgrade for LaMont Jordan (and possibly Justin Fargas and Michael Bush).From profootballtalk.com POSTED 11:17 p.m. EDT, October 24, 2007RAIDERS THINKING ABOUT DUMPING RHODESA league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders are contemplating the possibility of releasing running back Dominic Rhodes.Over the weekend, Jay Glazer FOX reported that Rhodes had been available via trade.If Rhodes is released, he will be required to first pass through waivers. If he clears waivers, he will be an unrestricted free agent.Rhodes arguably should have been named the MVP of Super Bowl XLI. He left the Colts via unrestricted free agency, and he prepped for his foray into free agency peeing all over himself in the back of a police cruiser. Allegedly. He later was suspended for the first four games of the 2007 season for violation of the substance-abuse policy.

I honestly don't think this story carries much weight. Think about it, with Jordans injury why would they get rid of an insurance policy for Jordan? Do you really think they have confidence in Fargas? If they did why would they pay for Rhodes to come?I think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.P.S. If they do want to cut Rhodes and send him somewhere else, I hope they do it ASAP so I can get some points out of him this year. I do think he stays in Oakland and receives a 60/40 split with Jordan until Jordan goes down again with an injury.

 

[CalBear]

I honestly don't think this story carries much weight. Think about it, with Jordans injury why would they get rid of an insurance policy for Jordan? Do you really think they have confidence in Fargas? If they did why would they pay for Rhodes to come?I think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.P.S. If they do want to cut Rhodes and send him somewhere else, I hope they do it ASAP so I can get some points out of him this year. I do think he stays in Oakland and receives a 60/40 split with Jordan until Jordan goes down again with an injury.

They also have Bush in the wings, who they have to decide to activate or put on IR very soon. Rhodes' 2.3 ypc in Sunday's game, following up on his 2.2 ypc in the pre-season, doesn't inspire much confidence.

 

[az_prof]

Upgrade for LaMont Jordan (and possibly Justin Fargas and Michael Bush).From profootballtalk.com POSTED 11:17 p.m. EDT, October 24, 2007RAIDERS THINKING ABOUT DUMPING RHODESA league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders are contemplating the possibility of releasing running back Dominic Rhodes.Over the weekend, Jay Glazer FOX reported that Rhodes had been available via trade.If Rhodes is released, he will be required to first pass through waivers. If he clears waivers, he will be an unrestricted free agent.Rhodes arguably should have been named the MVP of Super Bowl XLI. He left the Colts via unrestricted free agency, and he prepped for his foray into free agency peeing all over himself in the back of a police cruiser. Allegedly. He later was suspended for the first four games of the 2007 season for violation of the substance-abuse policy.

I honestly don't think this story carries much weight. Think about it, with Jordans injury why would they get rid of an insurance policy for Jordan? Do you really think they have confidence in Fargas? If they did why would they pay for Rhodes to come?I think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.P.S. If they do want to cut Rhodes and send him somewhere else, I hope they do it ASAP so I can get some points out of him this year. I do think he stays in Oakland and receives a 60/40 split with Jordan until Jordan goes down again with an injury.

if this story is true it tells me that Michael Bush is ready to go soon and that they really like what they see in him and/or they don't see any value in Rhodes.

 

[pizzatyme]

I tried to tell everyone in the preseason that Rhodes was a waste! SB MVP or not, he was better at getting 1-2 yards last season on 1st down than any back in the league!

We nicknamed him "2nd &9" in our section.

He was the epitome of a "system back".

 

[BustedKnuckles]

My take is rhodes may be a locker room cancer(or heading that way)and Kiffin WILL NOT put up with that ####....having fargas and bush helps .

 

[Bizkiteer]

My take is rhodes may be a locker room cancer(or heading that way)and Kiffin WILL NOT put up with that ####....having fargas and bush helps .

You might have hit the nail on the head right here. Rhodes complaining after his first game back about lack of carries, considering that he was out on suspension for four games, probably was an indication of his attitude. Jordan running really well and Fargas filling in well as to make the coaches feel good, thus...allowing them to not put up w/ all the extra crap.

 

[JohnnyU]

My take is rhodes may be a locker room cancer(or heading that way)and Kiffin WILL NOT put up with that ####....having fargas and bush helps .

You might have hit the nail on the head right here. Rhodes complaining after his first game back about lack of carries, considering that he was out on suspension for four games, probably was an indication of his attitude. Jordan running really well and Fargas filling in well as to make the coaches feel good, thus...allowing them to not put up w/ all the extra crap.

Maybe the Colts take him back with open arms even if Kieth is doing well.

 

[ctdub]

If Rhodes is dropped I think there are a number of teams willing to pay for his service.

In the raiders division- Denver

In the NFC

Seattle- Alexander is not himself and they would benefit from a change of pace back.

Saints- started slow, but only 2 games back from Carolina (david carr?) And Tampa (pretender or contender?)

Green Bay- no comment needed

 

[einstein2u]

he is sitting on the wire.

and rbs are limited.

might take a swing for the fence and pick him up.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

From profootballtalk.com

 

[North]

I honestly don't think this story carries much weight. Think about it, with Jordans injury why would they get rid of an insurance policy for Jordan? Do you really think they have confidence in Fargas? If they did why would they pay for Rhodes to come?

I think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.

P.S. If they do want to cut Rhodes and send him somewhere else, I hope they do it ASAP so I can get some points out of him this year. I do think he stays in Oakland and receives a 60/40 split with Jordan until Jordan goes down again with an injury.

They also have Bush in the wings, who they have to decide to activate or put on IR very soon. Rhodes' 2.3 ypc in Sunday's game, following up on his 2.2 ypc in the pre-season, doesn't inspire much confidence.

1. It was his first game back, give him a little break.2. If Rhodes 2.3 ypc this past week doesn't inspire much confidence what does Jordan's 2.6 ypc inspire?

It was a tough game across the board. Maybe Bush is coming back healthy and they may be looking to drop dead weight. But I honestly think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.

 

[Fireman Ed]

If Rhodes is dropped I think there are a number of teams willing to pay for his service. In the raiders division- DenverIn the NFCSeattle- Alexander is not himself and they would benefit from a change of pace back. Saints- started slow, but only 2 games back from Carolina (david carr?) And Tampa (pretender or contender?)Green Bay- no comment needed

I doubt Denver has an interest. He doesnt fit their idea of a starting tailback. Perhaps if they brought him in as a 3rd down back it would work though.

 

[The Mechanic]

When is the Trading Deadline for players?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I wonder what D.R `s contract looks like....the Raiders signed him knowing about his suspension , they MUST have something that gives them an easy out , some clause perhaps

 

[CalBear]

1. It was his first game back, give him a little break.2. If Rhodes 2.3 ypc this past week doesn't inspire much confidence what does Jordan's 2.6 ypc inspire?It was a tough game across the board. Maybe Bush is coming back healthy and they may be looking to drop dead weight. But I honestly think this is a product of a light news day in the NFL.

Jordan's 2.6 ypc inspires...0.3 more confidence than 2.3.I agree that it's not likely that Rhodes would be dropped, but he hasn't shown anything to indicate he can perform in Oakland's offense, while Jordan is averaging 4.4 ypc and almost 120 combined yards per game.

 

[Chaka]

When is the Trading Deadline for players?

October 16th.

 

[TheBaylorKid]

Interesting development.

Jordan stock: buy

Rhodes stock: hold (let's see if he lands somewhere in the legue)

 

[Thumper]

Interesting development.Jordan stock: buyRhodes stock: hold (let's see if he lands somewhere in the legue)

Lamont Jordan is the man in Oakland.Enough said.

 

[Neofight]

I wonder what D.R `s contract looks like....the Raiders signed him knowing about his suspension , they MUST have something that gives them an easy out , some clause perhaps

Contract info and more on the RB situation from http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/ :

– Fox Sports' Jay Glazer reported the Raiders could be considering dumping Dominic Rhodes. Glazer, the guy who got his hands on the New England videotapes as well as tape of the casino brawl between Levi Jones and Joey Porter, has broken more than his share of stories.

The timing seems strange on this one, however. Rhodes was already paid a $1.5 million signing bonus and is earning just over $765,000 in salary (that includes losing four weeks pay because of a substance abuse suspension), so it's not a cap move. Just outright cutting Rhodes seems unlikely after they went to the trouble of signing him even though they knew he would likely be suspended when they signed him.

With LaMont Jordan hoping to nurse a bad back through the season, the Raiders need another experienced back to go with Fargas just in case.

– Saw Michael Bush walking off the practice field carrying shoulder pads and thought he might have been activiated from the Physically Unable to Perform list. False alarm. He was carrying Jordan's equipment for him.

Bush is in the second week of a three-week window which he can practice with the club. Once that window closes and he does not practice, Bush cannot play this season.

– Jordan said Thursday his back "felt better than it has all year" and sees the Tennessee game as an opportunity to prove the Raiders running game as it was through four games is more reality than illusion.

The Raiders led the NFL in rushing at 194.2 yards per game after four games, and have since dropped to fifth at 145.8 yards per game behind Minnesota (163.7), Pittsburgh (159.0) and Jacksonville (148.5).

"When we were first, people questioned how good our running game was because they say we didn't run against anybody, so this is a great opportunity for us to show what we can do," Jordan said.

The Titans are giving up an NFL-low 59.7 yards per game on the ground. Part of that low figure is because opponents are running the ball 17.3 times per game. Part of it, Kiffin thinks, is because the Titans are that good.

"I think some teams have given up because of lack of success," Kiffin said. "They’re not doing well running it so they’ve gone to the pass. Or like last week, the game was so lopsided Houston didn’t have much of a choice. I don’t think that’s because they look at it and say well, they’re not good at pass defense so we’re going to throw it a bunch. I think it’s probably people are looking at it and getting discouraged about running the ball because the front seven is so strong and physical."

– RB Justin Fargas and practice squad DT Josh Shaw were involved in a prolonged scuffle before team sessions got underway which was broken up by teammates.