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MAD - Artist - Round 4 - #1's have been posted (3 Viewers)

I was instantly reminded of a couple of my biases - my dislike of bands with a singer that just sings
What? Thats a LOT of bands.
Agreed, but I was having trouble thinking of many that I really liked or had seen live. There are more than I thought last night. RW named great examples, and I had forgotten about Tool. I also thought of Queensryche and King Diamond. I was huge into Queensryche in M.S./H.S.
 
When did separate guitar, bass, and drum solos die out in concerts? Or am i just seeing the wrong shows?
The avatars of the grunge movement thought that stuff was uncool. So the early 90s.
I don't often agree with avatars, but in this case ...
I was thinking similar watching a couple Journey shows last night. That's not even another silly Cain shot, I don't like drum solos - and drums are my main entry to music. I was also having trouble thinking of shows I have seen in person where that happened and drew a blank.
 
I was instantly reminded of a couple of my biases - my dislike of bands with a singer that just sings
What? Thats a LOT of bands.
Agreed, but I was having trouble thinking of many that I really liked or had seen live. There are more than I thought last night. RW named great examples, and I had forgotten about Tool. I also thought of Queensryche and King Diamond. I was huge into Queensryche in M.S./H.S.
Stones, Zeppelin, Black Crowes, Pearl Jam…
 
On the record, you’d never know and live as long as the band is good behind the singer I don’t mind seeing a front man/woman.

As a Stones fan, it would be tough for me to disparage a “flamboyant” vocalist/frontman - but I guess from that viewpoint I get your take.
 
I was instantly reminded of a couple of my biases - my dislike of bands with a singer that just sings
What? Thats a LOT of bands.
Agreed, but I was having trouble thinking of many that I really liked or had seen live. There are more than I thought last night. RW named great examples, and I had forgotten about Tool. I also thought of Queensryche and King Diamond. I was huge into Queensryche in M.S./H.S.
Stones, Zeppelin, Black Crowes, Pearl Jam…
Eddie started playing more and more over time and like them a lot more now than I did back then. Black Crowes I also thought of, but thought Chris plays stuff on songs. Zep and Stones I like just fine, but prefer others of the era like The Who, Floyd, CCR.
 
On the record, you’d never know and live as long as the band is good behind the singer I don’t mind seeing a front man/woman.

As a Stones fan, it would be tough for me to disparage a “flamboyant” vocalist/frontman - but I guess from that viewpoint I get your take.
I wouldn't now either, I am talking about how dumb some of my thinking was years ago and why I never got around to these bands I am loving and doing MAD31s playlists for.

My HS/College brain told me that new wave music was crap, Dino Jr was screechy guitar crap I didn't like, and Journey was sissy rock I wouldn't like. Some of my other favorite bands now I had similar thoughts to like the previously mentioned Pink Floyd and The Black Crowes.
 
I think a better way to frame what I am talking about is back to the book @-OZ- were talking about and me realizing how strong my pull is to see what the musicians are doing on their instruments when I can. I picture playing when I am listening, and I am most likely not dancing and singing to music, but air drumming and/or guitaring.

The show I linked last night is a good example. When there is a kick *** singer like Perry, Jagger, Mercury, Daltry (Hi Doc Oc! ) there is a lot of attention in videos on them (with good reason). I love Perry's voice, but I don't need or want to see that to click with the music so much. That Live in Houston show spends A LOT of camera time on Perry, and like Pip and I were talking last night that would have been a main intro to Journey for me in the 80s. I watched 2 other shows last night from the late 70s with Perry and it felt like a different band and show. I was also laughing because that yellow shirt is nothing compared what my man Rolie was rocking in the day.
 
I think a better way to frame what I am talking about is back to the book @-OZ- were talking about and me realizing how strong my pull is to see what the musicians are doing on their instruments when I can. I picture playing when I am listening, and I am most likely not dancing and singing to music, but air drumming and/or guitaring.

The show I linked last night is a good example. When there is a kick *** singer like Perry, Jagger, Mercury, Daltry (Hi Doc Oc! ) there is a lot of attention in videos on them (with good reason). I love Perry's voice, but I don't need or want to see that to click with the music so much. That Live in Houston show spends A LOT of camera time on Perry, and like Pip and I were talking last night that would have been a main intro to Journey for me in the 80s. I watched 2 other shows last night from the late 70s with Perry and it felt like a different band and show. I was also laughing because that yellow shirt is nothing compared what my man Rolie was rocking in the day.
You’re really gonna enjoy Rik Emmett’s leotards, then.
 
I think a better way to frame what I am talking about is back to the book @-OZ- were talking about and me realizing how strong my pull is to see what the musicians are doing on their instruments when I can. I picture playing when I am listening, and I am most likely not dancing and singing to music, but air drumming and/or guitaring.

The show I linked last night is a good example. When there is a kick *** singer like Perry, Jagger, Mercury, Daltry (Hi Doc Oc! ) there is a lot of attention in videos on them (with good reason). I love Perry's voice, but I don't need or want to see that to click with the music so much. That Live in Houston show spends A LOT of camera time on Perry, and like Pip and I were talking last night that would have been a main intro to Journey for me in the 80s. I watched 2 other shows last night from the late 70s with Perry and it felt like a different band and show. I was also laughing because that yellow shirt is nothing compared what my man Rolie was rocking in the day.
You’re really gonna enjoy Rik Emmett’s leotards, then.
:lol: I'm sure.

Last night as I was watching a 70s show I was irritating my wife and daughter by asking their opinion which outfit I should have for Halloween this year. I thought the Jeans+white blouse+suspenders+afro would be a strong look for me.
 
The WalkmenScoresman
The Clashkupcho1
Ryan StarYambag
YesYo Mama
Built To SpillThe Dreaded Marco
Johnny MarrEephus
The Pretty Reckless Raging Weasel
Jeff TweedyDr. Octopus
JourneyKarmaPolice
Lindsey Stirling-oz-
TriumphPip's Invitation
Our Lady PeaceMAC
Mötley CrüeJWB
The Airborne Toxic EventZegras11
Annie LennoxMrs. Rannous
Whitney HoustonCharlie Steiner
My Morning Jacketlandrys hat
RobynJohn Maddens Lunchbox
Tim MaiaDon Quixote
Parliament FunkadelicUruk-Hai
Lord HuronKarmaPolice
R.E.M.Tuffnutt
RadioheadTitusbramble
CandleboxMt.Man
Eddie VedderTau837
The Bee Geeszamboni
Fred EaglesmithMister CIA
 
I’m ready for next time though. Got my list ready.
I dont want to speak for him but i think zegras would take it for this rundown.
Rick Astley?

Astley has been doing sets of Smiths covers backed by young UK band Blossoms.

 
Since I'm doing the new release roundup for MADs alumni artists, Jerry Cantrell has an album out today as well.

Posting Ryan Adam’s new releases is a full time job.

He's released 48 cover songs so far in 2024. I kept up with them for a while but got bored with the way he gives almost all the songs the same treatment. The cover art is the most imaginative part of the series.
 
OK, I think I'm going to be able to do this. Will try to get the list in tonight.

My original Ringo solo list only had 29 songs on it. Three of those are getting relegated to Last Five Out, along with two from the past five years. Five songs from the past five years will now be added to the Top 31 list. Way to go, recent songs!

I'm going to steal my own "In Praise of Ringo" write-up for my introduction. WARNING: Pip-esque length!

In Praise of Ringo ---

Part I - in praise of Ringo

“Ringo is Ringo, that’s all there is to it. And he’s every bloody bit as warm, unassuming, funny and kind as he seems. He was quite simply the heart of the Beatles.” – John Lennon

“Play like Ringo.” – John Lennon to Andy Newmark during the Double Fantasy sessions

“I remember the moment, standing there and looking at John and then looking at George, and the look on our faces was like, '#### you. What is this?' And that was the moment, that was the beginning, really, of the Beatles." – Paul McCartney, describing the first time Ringo sat in to play with the Beatles

“Ringo's got the best back beat I've ever heard and he can play great 24 hours a day." – George Harrison

He was the most influential Beatle. … And he really believed in peace and love." – Yoko Ono

In 2011, Rolling Stone readers voted Starr the fifth-greatest drummer of all time.

“No one needs to defend Ringo Starr—he's ####### Ringo Starr. ... Without him the Beatles wouldn't have sounded like the Beatles. And if the Beatles didn't sound like the Beatles, there would be no Beatles.” - Dave Grohl

“Define ‘best drummer in the world’. Is it someone that’s technically proficient? Or is it someone that sits in the song with their own feel? Ringo was the king of feel.” – Also Dave Grohl

“He had the greatest conception of tempo I've ever heard in my life. I have never heard anybody play that steady in my life, and that's a long time." – Drummer D. J. Fontana, who played on Beaucoups of Blues

“Ringo is vastly underrated. The drum fills on the song "A Day in the Life" are very complex things. You could take a great drummer today and say, 'I want it like that.' He wouldn't know what to do.” – Drummer Phil Collins

“Before Ringo, drum stars were measured by their soloing ability and virtuosity. Ringo's popularity brought forth a new paradigm in how the public saw drummers. We started to see the drummer as an equal participant in the compositional aspect. One of Ringo's great qualities was that he composed unique, stylistic drum parts for the Beatles' songs. His parts are so signature to the songs that you can listen to a Ringo drum part without the rest of the music and still identify the song.” – Drummer Steve Smith

“Technique is great, and you need it to execute your ideas — but what I like most in a musician is ideas and feeling. What’s in your heart and soul, and how you use that power to express it.” Drummer Dennis Diken, waxing poetic about Ringo over the course of 10 minutes

“Ringo Starr is one of the greatest drummers of all time. But like many of the greats, he made it look so easy. That's what happens with true originals and innovators, and as a result, people take for granted the artistry behind what they do." – Drummer Rich Pagano

"I cannot count the number of drummers who have told me that Ringo inspired their passion for drums.” – Robyn Flans, the Percussive Arts Society

“There were fewer than a dozen occasions in the Beatles' eight-year recording career where session breakdowns were caused by Starr making a mistake, while the vast majority of takes were stopped due to mistakes by the other Beatles.” – Mark Lewisohn, The Complete Beatles Recordings

“I consider him one of the greatest innovators of rock drumming and believe that he has been one of the greatest influences on rock drumming today... Ringo has influenced drummers more than they will ever realize or admit. Ringo laid down the fundamental rock beat that drummers are playing today and they probably don't even realize it.” – Drummer Kenny Aronoff

“He was the guy that we all tried to play like in the studio." – Drummer Jim Keltner

"I am the foundation, and then I put a bit of glow here and there ... If there's a gap, I want to be good enough to fill it." – Ringo
 
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In Praise of Ringo ---

Part II - Beatlemania

Ringo was a star in Liverpool before anyone knew what a John, Paul or George was, a sought-after drummer with Rory and the Hurricanes; Ringo was constantly getting offers to join other bands. The Beatles opened for Rory and the Hurricanes in Hamburg, which is how Ringo met the band.

During their heyday, Ringo received five times the fan mail of any other Beatle, and more than all three other Beatles combined.

In 1964, "I love Ringo" lapel pins were the bestselling of all Beatles merchandise.

The prominent placing of the Ludwig logo on the bass drum of his American import drum kit gave the company such a burst of publicity that it became the dominant drum manufacturer in North America for the next twenty years.

After the release of the Beatles' second feature film, Help! (1965), Starr won a Melody Maker poll against his fellow Beatles for his performance as the central character in the film.

Do you think the other Beatles loved Ringo? Well, when he temporarily quit the band during the White Album sessions, the others put their differences aside long enough to beg Ringo to come back, promising that they’d act better. When Ringo returned, George had sprinkled flowers all over his drum kit. When George threatened to quit, or John disappeared for days at a time, no one put this much effort into getting them back.

I think the most compelling evidence of how much everyone valued Ringo is this chart of post-Beatles collaborations among the lads. Notice anything?
 
In Praise of Ringo ---

Part III - Innovations and Examples of Ringo’s Mastery, shamelessly cribbed word-for-word from other sites

- In his book The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, Mark Lewisohn says Starr influenced various modern drumming techniques, such as the matched grip, tuning the drums lower, and using muffling devices on tonal rings.

- According to Ken Micallef and Donnie Marshall, co-authors of Classic Rock Drummers: "Ringo's fat tom sounds and delicate cymbal work were imitated by thousands of drummers."

- Take She Loves You, the song that kicked off Beatlemania. Ringo’s brief introductory tom roll is the shot of adrenaline that gets the heart of the song thumping; it is teen mania in sound, and one of the most important drum rolls in recorded music history. On Can’t Buy Me Love, Ringo’s drumming is the primal force that drives the song’s hormonal energy, all whipcrack snare and floor-tom bombast, wrapped up in Ringo’s signature sound: a wall-of-sound hi-hat thrash that sounds like five drummers at once. His drumming here is not complicated but – as numerous live versions of the song attest – it is lethally exact with not a note out of place...

- Consider Tomorrow Never Knows, one of the most influential Beatles songs. How would it sound without Ringo’s beautifully lopsided breakbeat, his unexpected twitching snare pattern emphasising the song’s feel of psychedelic discombobulation? How would Strawberry Fields Forever feel without Ringo’s fantastically weary tom fills, which seems to drag the listener down into Lennon’s nostalgia?

- Some people consider Ringo to be a terrible drummer because he doesn’t play solos. But who, apart from other drummers, really enjoys a solo? Ringo knew this and for years resisted all attempts to get him to play them, eventually giving in for the 15-second break on Abbey Road’s The End. It’s not flashy or difficult, but it has an understated funky charm and when it turned up on Beastie Boys’ The Sounds of Science 20 years later, it was hard to resist a smile.

- Though he was often underappreciated during the flamboyant late Sixties that produced Keith Moon and Mitch Mitchell, Ringo didn't just ground the greatest band of all time, he helped give their music shape and focus — listen to the ecstatic rolls that open "She Loves You," the crisp buoyancy of "Ticket to Ride," the slippery cymbal work and languid concision of "Rain," or the way he threw cute, memorable "rhythmic hooks" into many more of the Beatles beloved tunes. As a left-handed drummer playing a right-handed kit, Starr came up with his own unique style of creating crisp exuberant "funny fills," and his steady reliability became an early gold standard for no-nonsense rock players, serving each song with feel, swing and unswerving reliability.

- From his early ’60s tenure with Rory Storm And The Hurricanes—who rampaged their way through marathon sets in Hamburg, as had The Beatles—Starr became a relentless dynamo, able to swing, rock, and lay down a backbeat that wouldn’t quit. He kept that same driving beat with The Beatles, but as the band progressed through each exhilarating, earth-moving change, he blossomed too, providing artful, extravagant musical hooks whose worth would prove both incalculable and indelible.

- What Starr did was so deceptively simple. It didn’t sound difficult—it wasn’t exhaustive or athletic enough—so it couldn’t have been hard. But what he achieved was more seamless and meaningful than mechanical flash: He played the perfect part at the perfect time.

- An example: the odd pattern he plays at the very beginning (and many other places in the song) of “Come Together.” There’s nothing particularly difficult about it. And yet nothing like it was ever put on record before. It’s interesting and strange and tasteful and fits beautifully—a rare and magical combination.

- Another example: the odd and restrained pattern he plays on “In My Life,” where he doesn’t play quarter-notes or eighth-notes on the hi-hat, as would every other drummer in the world. Instead he merely plays whole notes, hitting the hi-hat once per measure, just before the 4. So unusual, so tasteful, so perfect. Not difficult, just rare beyond words, and yet absolutely ideal for the song. “Rain,” “Tomorrow Never Knows,” “I Want to Hold Your Hand,” “Ticket to Ride,” “She Said She Said,” “Get Back,” “Two of Us”—these songs have nothing in common save exceptional Ringo performances, imaginatively conceived and absolutely flawlessly executed.

- Check out this article about 10 of his greatest performances
 
Since I'm doing the new release roundup for MADs alumni artists, Jerry Cantrell has an album out today as well.

Posting Ryan Adam’s new releases is a full time job.

He's released 48 cover songs so far in 2024. I kept up with them for a while but got bored with the way he gives almost all the songs the same treatment. The cover art is the most imaginative part of the series.
Yes, it’s getting a bit silly.
 
My Ringo Last Five Out, in no particular order:

Everyone and Everything - from EP3 (2022)

Something I've learned today is how much of Ringo's recent work has involved collaboration with Linda Perry. I'm embarrassed to admit I had no idea who she was, but I found that she was not only the lead singer and songwriter of 4 Non Blondes, but has spent the last 20+ years penning and producing some huge hits by Christina Aguilera, Pink, Gwen Stefani, Alicia Keys and a ton more. Oh, and also non-hit songs for Ringo, including this one. I love the sound of this song, but the lyrics are often un-good, including the ear-killing "Where you at" in the first line. I set those lyrics aside enough to let this onto my last five out, but can't get past them enough for the top 31. Rest assured Ms. Perry will show up again in better form. This is the only selection I'll have from this particular EP, but it really was pretty good and in fact earned high praise in its review by Salon, which called it "an unabashed, sincere attempt at finding a little light in a downtrodden world." As that review pointed out, Ringo's latter-day music isn't for those "looking for high-minded musings about the trauma and turmoil of workaday life," but it's a way to lose yourself in a bit of peace and love.


Miss Jean - from Rewind Forward (2023)

This EP was described by American Songwriter as "bright and lovely," and I agree. This is not the only song from this four-song EP that will appear. This particular ditty was written by Benmont Tench and Mike Campbell of the Heartbreakers, who obviously know how to work with Ringo's limited vocal range. It's not a world-beater, but it's a bluesy, rollicking good time.


Have You Seen My Baby - from Ringo (1973)

Previously ranked somewhere-or-other on my 2019 Ringo list

I messed up my Ringo list in 2019. His 29 songs were in the midst of a total of 290 post-Beatles Beatles songs, the 290 of which I kept constantly moving and shifting and re-ordering. (I know, that sounds nothing like me.) And somewhere in there, I came to Ringo song #10 and found that I had one ("Wrack My Brain") that I hadn't intended to have on the list at all. So I put this one in as a last-minute substitution, making it my #10, but really it's not my #10. It's apparently somewhere in my #32-36. I have charts and graphs to explain this if you're confused. Has anyone ever chosen Randy Newman in one of these? Seems like they should have. Maybe Mr. or Mrs. R could. Anyway, great song.


R U Ready? from Liverpool 8 (2008)

Previously ranked #29 - prior write-up below

This song would be ranked much higher were it not for the use of this recording technique. Combine that with the unnecessary "R U" in the title (you ain't no Purple One, Ringo), and there are enough irritants to make this my lowest ranked Ringo song that I still enjoy anyway. In listening to the 20 Ringo studio albums, I became convinced that Ringo is at his best when singing country music, and so this old-timey song sounds great for his voice, or at least it does insofar as I can actually hear his voice.

This song comes from Ringo's album, Liverpool 8, released in 2008 and representing a pretty big change in Ringo's recording team. After 10 years and at least five albums together, Ringo ditched his long-time producer and songwriting partner Mark Hudson in the midst of recording this album and turned to former Eurythmic Dave Stewart to re-produce it, leading to a delay in its release that I doubt anyone noticed. As far as I know, Ringo never gave specifics on the falling out with Hudson, but did indicate it had to do with loyalty and trust rather than artistic matters. Intriguing. How much of a jerk do you have to be to piss off Ringo that much!?!

Despite the change in producers, I don't see a huge difference between the prior albums and this one. Ringo continues his usual themes of peace and love and singing a lot about the old days in Liverpool (in the title song) and referencing his time in the Beatles (in "Gone Were the Days"). He ended up with a generally amiable if not spectacular record, and while this is the only song from this album that will appear on my countdown, I'd never object if someone wanted to play this record. It's sweet and unpretentious like most Ringo records, perfectly listenable on a relaxed and easygoing night. If you're interested in more songs from this album, I recommend checking out "Liverpool 8" and "Pasodobles."

This album did end up getting Ringo into the unusual-for-Ringo situation of having a bunch of people pissed at him. Liverpool was designated by the EU to be its "Capital of Culture" for 2008, and just before the album was released Ringo sang the title track, "Liverpool 8," at the opening ceremony. All went well there, with tens of thousands of appreciative fans, but a few days later Ringo made this appearance on a talk show and asked if he missed Liverpool. As it turns out, "Ah no" was not the right answer to that question! I'm not sure Liverpool has yet forgiven him. On the other hand, Liverpool named its airport after John Lennon. Poor Ringo.


In Liverpool from Ringo 2012 (2012)

Previously ranked #27 - prior write-up below

Ringo has stated that he doesn't want to write an autobiography because no one would want to hear about anything but the Beatles years, so instead uses his songs to tell his full story. He sings about the old days in Liverpool a lot. We have, for instance, "Liverpool 8," "The Other Side of Liverpool," "Rory and the Hurricanes," and more. As I discussed above, it's a bummer that he - the one who actually writes nice little songs about Liverpool - is now disliked there due to his off-the-cuff remark during that TV interview, while John is beloved.

Ringo had the roughest upbringing of any of the Beatles, having grown up poor in a tough and violent working-class area of inner-city Liverpool called Dingle. His parents divorced when he was 4 or 5, and he had very little contact with his father thereafter. His mother took a variety of back-breaking jobs to try to support the family, cleaning houses or working in bars. After contracting an infection during an appendectomy when he was six, Ringo was in a coma for several days, and a year-long recovery took him out of school for that period of time. By eight years old, he still hadn't learned to read. When Ringo had almost recovered from all of that and caught up in school, at 13 he got TB and was in a hospital for two years. It was during this time that he learned to drum, as the hospital staff encouraged participation in music as a therapy to assist their patients. When Ringo was finally released from the hospital, he never went back to school and instead took a variety of jobs such as machinist, waiter, railway worker...anything to eke out a living...until Rory and the Hurricanes started to have enough success for him to be a full-time musician.

Since Liverpool is such a focus of his recent songwriting, I wanted to include one of these songs, and this is my favorite of the group. It was co-written by Dave Stewart and appeared on Ringo's 17th studio album, Ringo 2012. I need to find another word to call Ringo's songs other than "amiable," but this one fits right in with the last as just a pleasant pop song, and it's a cheerful trip down memory lane. This is the only song I'll be listing from this album, but much like the one above, the record as a whole is not a bad listen. It continues his usual themes of peace and love combined with nostalgia, and features a nice tight band that includes, in addition to Stewart, Joe Walsh, Van Dyke Parks, Edgar Winter, among others. The album also has examples of this odd tendency of Ringo to re-record his own songs, as it includes remakes of "Wings" and "Step Lightly" from earlier Ringo albums, neither of which was a song we really needed another version of. "Anthem," which gets some play on the Beatles Channel, is on this record.
 
Ringo has a new album out January 10th (My mom and Michael’s birthday), 2025.

Those rankings could be dated by the turn of the New Year. 😊😉

By the way, there is a single out from this album already. Will it make my list? I will say that this is going to be an album of country music, which I think fits Ringo's voice better than other genres, so I'm hopeful.

January 10 was my grandmother's birthday, too. :)
 
collaboration with Linda Perry. I'm embarrassed to admit I had no idea who she was, but I found that she was not only the lead singer and songwriter of 4 Non Blondes, but has spent the last 20+ years penning and producing some huge hits by Christina Aguilera, Pink, Gwen Stefani, Alicia Keys and a ton more
I think this thread has shown that even despite some great music lovers being here, songwriters still get the shaft for recognition lol
Linda Perry, Dianne Warren, even ****ing Desmond Child all great 80s, 90s and beyond songwriters.
Look up their discography's and it will make you love, or in some cases loathe their output.

Guys like Michael Bolton and Richard Marx made the transition from songwriters to artist/performers.

Anyway, back to Ringo….
 
Sorry, have to download some more of songwriter hard drive….
Desmond Child is responsible for much of Kiss’s late 70s, 80s stuff. The non puerile 12 year old boy stuff mainly, but even he couldnt help join in the boys with song titles like “Bang Bang You”, “Let’s Put the X in Sex” and “(You Make Me) Rock Hard”
The only thing Kiss and in particular Gene Simmons liked more than making money was sleeping with underage girls……allegedly

Bon Jovi is another to hook up with Child - You Give Love a Bad Name, Livin on a Prayer, Bad Medicine etc

A great songwriter knows where to put the hooks and make a good song instantly recognisable and make it better.

Songwriter Hard drive partially downloaded
 
I think this thread has shown that even despite some great music lovers being here, songwriters still get the shaft for recognition lol
Linda Perry, Dianne Warren, even ****ing Desmond Child all great 80s, 90s and beyond songwriters.
Look up their discography's and it will make you love, or in some cases loathe their output.

Guys like Michael Bolton and Richard Marx made the transition from songwriters to artist/performers.

Anyway, back to Ringo….

Funny, a Ringo cover of a Diane Warren song was one of my last cuts. I think she's awfully well known, but could be wrong.
 
MAD31 has helped me break down music walls and listen to things I was convinced I didn't like. between drafters like @MAC_32 and @simey I have broken down some country barriers and learned a little what I like there, so that is one box checked.

There are 3 genres I thought of that I also struggle with, so in the theme of new discoveries and listening to new albums I am trying to tackle: Punk, Reggae, and Jazz. Wish me luck!! ;)
 
There are 3 genres I thought of that I also struggle with, so in the theme of new discoveries and listening to new albums I am trying to tackle: Punk, Reggae, and Jazz. Wish me luck!! ;)

@kupcho1 's Clash list will certainly have some Punk and Reggae. Maybe Jazz too if "Look Here" made the cut.
Good timing then. I image that has been a bit of my disconnect with that band in the past. I was looking forward to them in the countdown for that reason.

I am pretty sure I know my in for the first two now after scouring and some brief previews. Jazz might be hardest, but I am guessing like prog there is a jazz sweet spot for me.
 
collaboration with Linda Perry. I'm embarrassed to admit I had no idea who she was, but I found that she was not only the lead singer and songwriter of 4 Non Blondes, but has spent the last 20+ years penning and producing some huge hits by Christina Aguilera, Pink, Gwen Stefani, Alicia Keys and a ton more
I think this thread has shown that even despite some great music lovers being here, songwriters still get the shaft for recognition lol
Linda Perry, Dianne Warren, even ****ing Desmond Child all great 80s, 90s and beyond songwriters.
Look up their discography's and it will make you love, or in some cases loathe their output.

Guys like Michael Bolton and Richard Marx made the transition from songwriters to artist/performers.
I’ve thought of doing Leiber/Stoller or Goffin/King for one of these.
 
Jazz might be hardest, but I am guessing like prog there is a jazz sweet spot for me.

If you like prog, it's not a giant step to fusion bands like Return to Forever or Mahavishnu Orchestra. At least there won't be any singers prancing around.

I do a Jazz mix every year in the Summerpalooza football league but I've avoided it in MADs threads because I know a lot of people don't dig it and the songs tend to be on the long side. I did have a wonderful week listening to Herbie Hancock in the run-up to MADs #2. He'd be my choice if I ever go that route because of the diversity of his catalog.
 
The WalkmenScoresman
The Clashkupcho1
Ryan StarYambag
YesYo Mama
Built To SpillThe Dreaded Marco
Johnny MarrEephus
The Pretty Reckless Raging Weasel
Jeff TweedyDr. Octopus
JourneyKarmaPolice
Lindsey Stirling-oz-
TriumphPip's Invitation
Our Lady PeaceMAC
Mötley CrüeJWB
The Airborne Toxic EventZegras11
Annie LennoxMrs. Rannous
Whitney HoustonCharlie Steiner
My Morning Jacketlandrys hat
RobynJohn Maddens Lunchbox
Tim MaiaDon Quixote
Parliament FunkadelicUruk-Hai
Lord HuronKarmaPolice
R.E.M.Tuffnutt
RadioheadTitusbramble
CandleboxMt.Man
Eddie VedderTau837
The Bee Geeszamboni
Fred EaglesmithMister CIA
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Oh, screw it. My next two MAD drafts wil be Neil Diamond.

And yes, I hear the groans from here. Too bad; so sad. But it will have to be two lists (maybe with something else in between) because he has more top 40 hits than there are slots. I want to include other people's covers, too. Kind of necessary in his case. His catalogue is so large I'v been avoiding it, but here goes nothing. And I don't really want a greatest hits album. I can just post a couple of those.

At least I don't have to do the Christmas albums. (I guess he really likes Christmas music. Maybe it reminds him of his childhood.)

He does fit the singer/songwriter mode.

I guess I should have a poll about "Sweet Caroline".
 

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