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Are you kidding? You just showed your (uninformed) colors. Manning's Citrus Bowl MVP came in a game that featured 33 future NFLers, including, on Ohio States side, Eddie George (Heisman year), Ricky Dudley, Terry Glenn, Shawn Springs, Kory Stringer, Orlando Pace, Mike Vrabel, Rob Kelly, Bobby Hoying, and David Boston.Inferior competition? There wasn't a bowl game that season that featured more NFL talent....HERD
again, a meaningless game...was Manning playing for the national title? Oops, guess not, he had already blown it earlier in the season. Of course with all the pressure on Nebreska in that game he played well. Was that the year Manning did his best John Elway impersonation against UF, sucking for 2.5 quarters before a furious comeback that fell short? Or was that the year before?you Manning lovers are histerical
Actually, Tennessee was #3 in that nation going into that game. Considering Michigan had barely won the Rose Bowl over a team ranked in the teens, it wasn't inconceivable to think that the Orange winner - even if it was Tennessee - would grab a significant number of #1 votes with a convincing win, which is what Nebraska ended up doing.Keep trying...
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"meaningless" in terms of Manning losing his choke-label...please try to follow along if you are going to post hereand GOATBOY...lol @ thinking a team with 1-loss would have gotten a split share of that title...as much as it pains me to say, scUM was by far the best team that year and the only reason for the split poll was because Osbourne was retiring and he got a going-away gift
No, I believe I read it right. You called the game against Neb in the Orange Bowl a "meaningless game". Maybe you shouldn't post such stupid things, if you want to post here."meaningless" in terms of Manning losing his choke-label...please try to follow along if you are going to post hereand GOATBOY...lol @ thinking a team with 1-loss would have gotten a split share of that title...as much as it pains me to say, scUM was by far the best team that year and the only reason for the split poll was because Osbourne was retiring and he got a going-away gift
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I can't bear to read your posts anymore, such a waste of time. I can't believe people are actually arguing with you on this.that's exactly what i said...and if you were able to comprehend more than one post at a time you would have known it was in reference to him choking, which is what this thread is about...GDB simpletons in my thread
As much as I can agree that an argument could be made that Holmes was as deserving, if not moreso, than Manning of the MVP award (certainly, McNair was not) I don't see how my comments would support such an argument. I was implying that Indy's soft run defense might cost them the game, not an underperformance by Manning. If Priest gets away from them, the game turns to clock-control by KC, a typically winning formula.
I doubt it
I want to see him do it again next week against a real defense before I jump on the bandwagon. He needs to first beat the Pats, and then lead his team to a Superbowl victory (MVP) before you can say that he has finally shaken off the choker tag for good. :domer:
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there should be a test to find out how much someone knows about football before they can post on a football site. it has become blatantly obvious you know little to nothing about football.
I see what you are saying. Manning needed to pass various tests:1. Win a playoff game2. Win a road playoff game.Others will need more:3. Win a road playoff game in the cold, wind and/or snow (could it be this week?).4. Win a SB.GB someone stepping up from the pile of idiots and realizing the point of this threadCongrats to Manning, the label has been lifted in my book.Now I just got to get him to stop his annoying arm-waving crap at the line of scrimmage...JUST SNAP THE #### BALL!!!!
the others will be....win a playoff game with a runny nosewin a playoff game with a cold sorewin a playoff game with a death in the familywin the SB with a runny nosewin the SB with a cold sorewin the SB with a death in the familythis board cracks me up sometimesI see what you are saying. Manning needed to pass various tests:1. Win a playoff game2. Win a road playoff game.Others will need more:3. Win a road playoff game in the cold, wind and/or snow (could it be this week?).4. Win a SB.GB someone stepping up from the pile of idiots and realizing the point of this thread
If choking is not performing up to expectations, then the label fits very well today. Two of those interceptions were very poorly thrown balls. That was a terrible performance. Yes, the Patriots had a lot to do with it, but it was the sort of game that helps to define the player. Its the same reason people will always question the legacy that Marino left behind. Manning has lots of years to go. I won't be surprised if he rebounds and wins it all some year, but in the mean while, he's going to get labeled in several ways. Fair or not, its the truth. Its the final measure of greatness for the QB position. I'm confident that Manning would agree 100%.
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