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Mathematically Sound Roulette System (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Maurile Tremblay
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That appears to be a dead link, but the link you posted on page 1 is accurate.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I've developed a similar system that completely eliminates the house edge on all slot machines. But unlike Maurile, I'm not going to be stupid enough to give away my system for free. If you want my super-system that COMPLETELY ELIMATES the house edge on ALL types of slot machines, send $29.99 to:Ivan Karamazov Enterprises123 Fake St.Tuscaloosa, AL 39845That is all.
All of those phrases are accurate. If he hasn't played roulette in years, then he has been using this system for years, and is exactly even. Also, the records he has kept (mentally, I'm sure) are probably detailed down to the penny.
JAA
Footballguy
Ill take a shot at the 'technical' reasons if you are serious about the system above.Computers are the WORST at generating RANDOM numbers. You will always need a 'seed' and typically it is a function of time or other poorly thought out algorithm.Not to mention 2 trillion is a real small number of calculations.JAA
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Foosball God
Foos
The FBG's version of snipe hunting. :gang:
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Footballguy
hence, the lllllllllllJknew it from the beginning -with the "come on" post
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Footballguy
hey, I live at 121 Fake St - you're that great looking blond ex-stripper named Mercedes....I HAVE seen you in casino's
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Footballguy
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
No, that's my live-in gf.
tommyboy
Footballguy
the only fool proof non losing way to win at Roulette is to play low stakes roulette (like 25 cent minimum), hedge all your bets so that on any given roll you will break even or at worst lose a very small amount and then drink like a friggin fish for several hours, without tipping the waitresses. Over the long haul you will consume many more dollars worth of free booze than you gave back to the house in actual money lost.send your money toTommyboy555 Dumbazz LaneNew York, NY 10125
What? I'm saving people money!
This really wasn't supposed to be a 60+ post thread. It was supposed to be an amusing system to read about and smile at quickly on your way over to the child tax-credit thing.
This really wasn't supposed to be a 60+ post thread. It was supposed to be an amusing system to read about and smile at quickly on your way over to the child tax-credit thing.
What he said, MT.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
Well, now the second short bus is full.Please make sure you helmets are securely fashioned and- as pirate said- your mouth guards are in place.The will be future buses as necessary.If ever a thread has proven the financial viability of poker (gambling against others), despite the negative influence of the rake, this is it.
Hi TenTimes,So much for MT's credibility
It appears there has been some confusion about certain elements of the Mike Caro Roulette System and the claims made for it. I will try to clarify matters by laying out the facts as clearly and precisely as I can. I personally certify and stake my reputation on the following:
Fact #1. Some members of this message board -- members that I will not name now -- believe that there is no way to manipulate bets at roulette to overcome the house advantage, provided the outcome of each spin is totally random.
Fact #2. Although those same members may be sincere in what they say, humans sometimes err.
Fact #3. The Mike Caro Roulette System that I posted earlier provides a way of avoiding certain roulette numbers that have a long-term losing expectation.
Fact #4. Anyone who shows discipline in following the step-by-step instructions of the Mike Caro Roulette System can expect to cut the house edge at the roulette wheel to literally zero.
Fact #5. Despite fact #4, you should be aware that, in gambling, it is possible to encounter long losing periods, even when you have the best of it. This is not intended as a disclaimer. It is simply the truth.
Fact #6. Looking back on the controversy, I believe some of the confusion over Caro's roulette system may have been caused by the fact that Caro's advice was not worded as clearly as it could have been. The system really isn't as hard to follow as it may at first seem.
Fact #7. For thousands of years, many people believed that man could never fly. Today, many people think you cannot beat roulette.
Fact #8. I am very certain that Caro's Roulette System has the potential to be worth many thousands of dollars to some regular roulette players who have previously been unable to win.Those are the facts. I hope you don't still think my credibility has been damaged.
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Here are some testimonials from satisfied Caro-system users:
"I have nothing but the highest praise for the scientifically developed Caro Roulette System for Advanced Players. Of all the roulette systems I've ever used, Caro's is unsurpassed in results, and I don't know of a single top professional roulette player who would even think of going to the wheel without it. The only reservations that I might have about recommending Caro's truly remarkable system to others are because of the iron discipline required (that not everybody might be able to muster), and that the casinos tend to discriminate 'comps'-wise against Caro System players. I myself once went fourteen sessions in a row without a loss -- until all the intense pressure just caused my discipline to break down momentarily, and I placed a bet on number 30 (any such bets involving number 30 in any way shape or form are strictly forbidden by the Caro System), just to see what would happen -- and as Caro himself likely would've predicted, I lost (but I sure did learn a valuable lesson there, and haven't deviated since!)... However, we really ought to be careful not to 'kill the goose that lays the golden eggs' here by letting too many people in on the Caro System -- because if every roulette player were to play exclusively by the Caro System, casinos around the world would be left little choice other than to discontinue offering the great game of roulette, and they'd almost certainly just remove all the roulette wheels, and add more *&^%$#@! slot machines." -- Barbara Yoon
"I can categorically state that after years of mathematical study, Mike's system is THE ONLY system that does what it claims. I have already noticed that the casino treats me differently, refusing me comps and giving me rude looks. And never ever again will I bet on 30." -- John A. Simkiss, III
"This system is a ripoff. I never won a dime!!!" -- Matt Treasure
"Casino pit-critters are very sympathetic to roulette system players in general, but they are wise to people playing the Caro system. If you play Roulette using the Caro system and win even one bet, you will be escorted to a back room for a friendly 'conversation' with casino officials. Playing the Caro system is reasonably safe. But winning with it can be downright dangerous.' -- Alan Bostick
"I bet you can't name even a single top professional roulette player today who does NOT use this truly remarkable Caro system -- especially now in this modern era of high-tech synthetic lubricants for the wheels." -- Pat Givalry
"Using the Mike Caro Roulette System, I was able to earn a profit at the roulette table of 3500% of the total amount I wagered. See if you do that well on the NYSE!" -- Stacy Friedman
"The thing I like best about Mike's roulette system is that (despite its apparent complication) it's really easy once you learn it. I don't have to pay attention at all; I can leave the wheel and sit down in the poker room while waiting for the right moment to bet." -- Dennis Rodriguez
"I have nothing but the highest praise for the scientifically developed Caro Roulette System for Advanced Players. Of all the roulette systems I've ever used, Caro's is unsurpassed in results, and I don't know of a single top professional roulette player who would even think of going to the wheel without it. The only reservations that I might have about recommending Caro's truly remarkable system to others are because of the iron discipline required (that not everybody might be able to muster), and that the casinos tend to discriminate 'comps'-wise against Caro System players. I myself once went fourteen sessions in a row without a loss -- until all the intense pressure just caused my discipline to break down momentarily, and I placed a bet on number 30 (any such bets involving number 30 in any way shape or form are strictly forbidden by the Caro System), just to see what would happen -- and as Caro himself likely would've predicted, I lost (but I sure did learn a valuable lesson there, and haven't deviated since!)... However, we really ought to be careful not to 'kill the goose that lays the golden eggs' here by letting too many people in on the Caro System -- because if every roulette player were to play exclusively by the Caro System, casinos around the world would be left little choice other than to discontinue offering the great game of roulette, and they'd almost certainly just remove all the roulette wheels, and add more *&^%$#@! slot machines." -- Barbara Yoon
"I can categorically state that after years of mathematical study, Mike's system is THE ONLY system that does what it claims. I have already noticed that the casino treats me differently, refusing me comps and giving me rude looks. And never ever again will I bet on 30." -- John A. Simkiss, III
"This system is a ripoff. I never won a dime!!!" -- Matt Treasure
"Casino pit-critters are very sympathetic to roulette system players in general, but they are wise to people playing the Caro system. If you play Roulette using the Caro system and win even one bet, you will be escorted to a back room for a friendly 'conversation' with casino officials. Playing the Caro system is reasonably safe. But winning with it can be downright dangerous.' -- Alan Bostick
"I bet you can't name even a single top professional roulette player today who does NOT use this truly remarkable Caro system -- especially now in this modern era of high-tech synthetic lubricants for the wheels." -- Pat Givalry
"Using the Mike Caro Roulette System, I was able to earn a profit at the roulette table of 3500% of the total amount I wagered. See if you do that well on the NYSE!" -- Stacy Friedman
"The thing I like best about Mike's roulette system is that (despite its apparent complication) it's really easy once you learn it. I don't have to pay attention at all; I can leave the wheel and sit down in the poker room while waiting for the right moment to bet." -- Dennis Rodriguez
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I've successfully used the Caro Roulette System with this added twist: I always double my bet after a loss.
Also, I keep a "basic strategy chart" with me that has a list of all the numbers to avoid. It is a very handy reference. Unlike blackjack basic strategy charts, this roulette chart is not sold in casino gift shops. However, you can order them from me for just $5.95 each. PM me for details.
Also, I keep a "basic strategy chart" with me that has a list of all the numbers to avoid. It is a very handy reference. Unlike blackjack basic strategy charts, this roulette chart is not sold in casino gift shops. However, you can order them from me for just $5.95 each. PM me for details.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Gotta love those Caro testimonials like "professional roulette players agree". I'd like to see this bunch of mobsters, retirees and widows who are playing "professionally".Two hints to anyone stupid enough to play roulette, as told to me by Frank Catton:1. Only play single Green wheels. 99% in AC and most in Vegas are double green, but you'll help yourself out in the long run with that slight edge.2. Tip your dealer, and bet 5 number "corners" on the wheel. In my younger days, I had a good thing going with a dealer who could hit my 17-20 split when I bet big, and he made out well on the big bet. You might also learn your wheel like the back of your hand, they are standard, and look for such anolmies, as a dealer releasing the same spot and hitting those number sequences.
If you read the testimonials again, I think you will agree that they make no statements about mobsters or widows.
While single-zero roulette games are better for most casual roulette players, this is very bad advice for users of the Mike Caro Roulette System. I should have emphasized this in my first post, but if you use the Caro system as described in this thread on a single-zero wheel, you will lose money over the long run! There is a modified version of the Caro system that will eliminate the house edge on single-zero wheels, but even then, if a double-zero wheel is available, playing on a single-zero wheel is a waste of time. With the Caro system, your expected return on a double-zero wheel will be approximately 350% of your expected return on a single-zero wheel (even with the appropriate modifications).
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
How can this be? I would think a single zero just makes one less green spot to screw you. How can the odds decrease so dramatically in the opposite way?
The wheels are totally different in a single-zero game. If you look at the specific instuctions Caro gives (as quoted in my first post), you will see that the consequences are quite different depending on whether you are using a double-zero wheel or a single-zero wheel.
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rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
I thought for sure two would be enough, but it looks some of these kids will be stuck in the rain if we don't send another.Headgear people- please secure your headgear.
DA's prosecutors
Footballguy
I like the idea of always doubling your bet after a loss. The only downside I see is you have to have enough reserves to weather a long losing streak. If you start with betting $10, after a 6 losses in row your at $320 for the next hand.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I was being facetious, Maurile. My point being, I'm guessing to be a "professional roulette player", you'd have piles of money to burn. I'm not claiming to own anywhere near the accumen Mike Caro owns, and I do generally find his tips to be greatly informative on the poker side of things. But I wasted a good deal of my youth in casinos, and I was a five day a week player for the better part of four years, as I went to school within a stones throw of the casinos in AC. Not that that makes me special, but I have never heard of, nor seen anything near a "professional roulette player". I would imagine there is much early retirement in that occupation, because there are far better opportunities if one is insistent on the suckers side of the table. Hell, Caro could have included a testimonal from Santa and the Easter Bunny for all the stock I put in them.
I know, but I was being serious. If you go back and read the testimonials again, I think you will see that they don't make any affirmative statemements about professional roulette players. Also, if you actually try to figure out how this system works, you will see that Caro is as correct here as he ever has been about poker.
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crystal mentioned doubling down after a loss as well. This is a highly advanced supplemental strategy to the Mike Caro Roulette System™, but it can certainly work for you. And the best part is that you don't need to worry about the huge potential negative fluctuations you can experience in most Martingale-type betting systems, because with the Caro system you are guaranteed to never lose on more than three spins in a row.
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My system isn't written in a foreign language, either. Then again, it's also guaranteed to catch less fish.bostonfred2
Footballguy
Maurile, I may have missed something, but if you double your bet after each loss, what do you with to your bet if you win?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This was kind of funny for a while but now its almost disturbing.
It doesn't matter. You will not win any bets with this system.
This is the essence of the Caro Roulette System: it identifies each of the particular individual numbers that have a long-term losing expectation, and forbids you to bet on those particular numbers. In other words, it forbids every possible bet.
But this is in fact the only roulette system that does what it claims to do. It uses mathematically sound principles to completely eliminate the house edge. Seriously. The only negative, as was mentioned in the testimonials, is that once the casino personnel recognize you as a Mike Caro Roulette System™ adherent, they will not offer you any comps for your play.
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