Hang 10
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We can only hope. Man, that would be sweet.
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Michael Vick Bandwagon rolling like a freight train (1 Viewer)
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I am trying to get him in both my leagues....my problem is that I have to drop Portis in one league and Ricky Williams in another.
If I get him, I will start him this week over Rivers and Eli....I think his game translates very well against a team like the Lions who will probably be able to generate a pass rush, but will be susceptible to the craziness that ensues once they start missing tackles.
If I get him, I will start him this week over Rivers and Eli....I think his game translates very well against a team like the Lions who will probably be able to generate a pass rush, but will be susceptible to the craziness that ensues once they start missing tackles.
I agree here...Philly fans are unreasonably brutal. If Vick leads them to a big win, Kolb will be under a huge amount of pressure, whether or not he can handle it, I am beginning to have my doubts. He looked pretty bad in preseason, and didn't look very good in his limited time against the Pack.We can only hope. Man, that would be sweet.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I am considering the same thing. The Jets D is the difference there. So good. Even if the pats win, I could see it being a 230 yd 2 td 2 in type day.And I think Vick is going to light up the lions. Hell look at how many rushing yards Jake Freaking Cutler ran against the lions for. Now Imagine cutler was Vick.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
He put up 100 against a top 5-10 (if not better) defense in the NFL. Now the Lions played with heart. And It will be interesting how they match up with the speed that Schwartz has been drafting lately. I heard something interesting on sportstalk last night. Did you know due to a DL injury/the kolb injury that the Packers did not use a non nickel-dime package against the eagles the entire game. AJ hawk never saw the field. Vick's speed and dynamic change the way you have to defend him. It was nice to see his accuracy seemed improved too.
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amen, kolb ended up being my starter, stafford back-up. week one, 2 QBs gone...
Kevin is out for sure.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I'm on board. Vick looked very very good Sunday. I may play him over Cutler this weekend.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
People on this board aren't much better based on what I've read. The kid's had 10 passes, 10!, as the team leader and everyone's saying he sucks. Sorry if he screwed up your fantasy week one. Its what you get when you rely on a first year starter as your QB1.Kolb starts every game he's healthy for, no matter what the fans want or FFL players on a message board. The team needs to know if he's an NFL caliber QB. And you can't make that assessment in just a few games. This is a rebuilding year for the Eagles, plain and simple.I agree here...Philly fans are unreasonably brutal. If Vick leads them to a big win, Kolb will be under a huge amount of pressure, whether or not he can handle it, I am beginning to have my doubts. He looked pretty bad in preseason, and didn't look very good in his limited time against the Pack.We can only hope. Man, that would be sweet.
Banger
Footballguy
ya, now that it comes out that the NFL is investigating their handling of the Kolb situation, he's a lock to sit.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Kolb would get a little more respect if he actually earned the starting job. The guy has done nothing to earn the right to learn on the job and waste the eagles 2010 season (though i hope he does). You say the eagles are rebuilding, I doubt they'd be quick to agree with you.People on this board aren't much better based on what I've read. The kid's had 10 passes, 10!, as the team leader and everyone's saying he sucks. Sorry if he screwed up your fantasy week one. Its what you get when you rely on a first year starter as your QB1.Kolb starts every game he's healthy for, no matter what the fans want or FFL players on a message board. The team needs to know if he's an NFL caliber QB. And you can't make that assessment in just a few games. This is a rebuilding year for the Eagles, plain and simple.I agree here...Philly fans are unreasonably brutal. If Vick leads them to a big win, Kolb will be under a huge amount of pressure, whether or not he can handle it, I am beginning to have my doubts. He looked pretty bad in preseason, and didn't look very good in his limited time against the Pack.We can only hope. Man, that would be sweet.
I'm in the exact same boat. Was going to roll with Ryan this week and didn't even try to pick Vick up on waivers. Low and behold, this morning I see Vick wasn't picked up and was an FA. I dropped a prospect for him and will play him for this week anyway. I'm not expecting any value past this week but we'll see.I'm a Falcons fan and have watched a lot of Vick. He is very streaky but as someone else said, he looked hungry and healthy last Sunday. There is a very good chance he puts up crazy numbers against DET. Plus Ryan and McNabb both looked like crap last week so I think Vick by far has the bigger upside for now.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Hmmm....2 really good games and one crappy half. Yup, he stinks. I say they are rebuilding because they are one of the youngest teams in the league and just jettisoned their fanchise QB. In your opinion, what does he need to do to earn the starting job? What has Sanchez done to earn his?Kolb would get a little more respect if he actually earned the starting job. The guy has done nothing to earn the right to learn on the job and waste the eagles 2010 season (though i hope he does). You say the eagles are rebuilding, I doubt they'd be quick to agree with you.People on this board aren't much better based on what I've read. The kid's had 10 passes, 10!, as the team leader and everyone's saying he sucks. Sorry if he screwed up your fantasy week one. Its what you get when you rely on a first year starter as your QB1.Kolb starts every game he's healthy for, no matter what the fans want or FFL players on a message board. The team needs to know if he's an NFL caliber QB. And you can't make that assessment in just a few games. This is a rebuilding year for the Eagles, plain and simple.I agree here...Philly fans are unreasonably brutal. If Vick leads them to a big win, Kolb will be under a huge amount of pressure, whether or not he can handle it, I am beginning to have my doubts. He looked pretty bad in preseason, and didn't look very good in his limited time against the Pack.We can only hope. Man, that would be sweet.
Hang 10
Footballguy
This isn't fantasy football for the eagles. You think he played well against the saints last year? He ONE good game at home against a trainwreck Chiefs team. Sanchez was a top 5 pick and for him to be be the starter over Clemens, doesn't mean nearly the samething as beating out Mcnabb or Vick.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
yikes, starting to look like he watches the game this weekend. Wonder when they will declare him out?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Exactly why they won't start a QB who doesn't fit their system. And Andy isn't about to change his system for Vick.On topic, Vick will start and play well this week. Next week has yet to be determined.
Well I have Vick and Kolb now, and I'm really starting to worry that this will be down-to-the-wire GTD. If Kolb practices Friday, together with Reid's comments, we'd have to assume Kolb starts. I don't think we can assume he finishes the game though. How many snaps will Vick take away from Kolb now, under the circumstances, for Wildcat/gadget plays?
I think there's a good chance neither QB will be worth starting if there's any back and forth over Kolb's health and a GTD looming. That's why I'm now rostering 3 QBs...
I think there's a good chance neither QB will be worth starting if there's any back and forth over Kolb's health and a GTD looming. That's why I'm now rostering 3 QBs...
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
I would say Vick fits their system just fine. Did you not see the second half? What big changes do you think Reid has to make?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
The Eagles run a West Coast offense based on timing and accuracy. Vick will not be the long term QB in Philly. They have committed a lot of money to Kolb. They will want to see if he's the future QB or if they have to draft one early in '11. They can't find that out if he's on the bench and I sure hope they give him more than 10 passes to prove himself. If he doesn't show improvement as the season goes along, they'll have a decision to make in the off-season. But they'll want at least this season to evaluate him. The Eagles picked up Vick so they could flip him for a draft pick. No one offered them anything. They got stuck paying him his 5 mil roster bonus (which some insiders say they were regretting) and now they've put themselves in a messy situation. Vick will be the #2 if/when KK is healthy. The longer they sit Kolb, the further behind they fall in their future development.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I picked him up for $18 (Kolb was my QB1) and grabbed Hasselbeck, he went for $11 and $13 in my other leagues to non-Kolb owners (in those leagues owners had Kolb as a QB2 so prob werent worried)
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Vick got schooled by the Joes in Joes v. Pros. By schooled, I mean sacked and picked off by division 2 caliber players in off-season form. He's done
dgreen
Footballguy
footballnerd
Footballguy
So what are you trying to say about the Greenbay Packers?
stubby
Footballguy
We have a $150 cap, and I payed $12 for him.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
interesting opinion from lombardi
per rotoworld:
per rotoworld:
no source listed on this, i assume it was on total access.
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nysportsfan
Footballguy
Faced with this same decision, I think I am going Cutler as of now.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Listening to Adam Schefter this morning, the medical recommendation is to wait at least one week from the last indication of the concussion. He was vomiting and whatnot on Monday, he said. Given that, I'd say he might be out.I find it amazing that these football players play but Jason Bay missed the entire season in baseball. I'm far from a doctor, so maybe I should shut my face and stick to something I know about
werdnoynek
Footballguy
per rotoworld again:
nysportsfan
Footballguy
I put in 301.10 in a 500 BB league.footballnerd said:
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Probably thinking Reid will give Kolb two weeks to get his head clear since the Jaguars are no incentive to rush him back.
thehornet
Footballguy
NFL Network's Mike Lombardi predicted Wednesday that Michael Vick will be the Eagles' starting quarterback for the rest of the season.
Despite the money paid to Kevin Kolb, Lombardi believes that wins will be the overriding factor in the Eagles' quarterback decision. Vick is going to start in Week 2, and should beat the Lions. He's got the Jaguars after that. If Vick wins two straight games, it would be very difficult to pull him for a quarterback that looked as poorly as Kolb did in Week 1.
thehornet
Footballguy
please tell us more about this guy you know so well.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Mike Lombardi can predict and speculate all he wants. Vick's a good start this week. Beyond that is anyone's guess. Even Mike Lombardi's.
thehornet
Footballguy
um ok?? what does that have to do with this poster knowing about reid's ego?
Kolb will start but there is no guarantee he will continue to if he doesn't perform. That said I also think that he will perform and many are just greatly over reacting to a week one performance against a very good Packers team. The Eagles have a softer schedule in the next few weeks and I expect Kolb to come back and establish himself. There were rumors over the summer that Reid does not have as much support any more after advocating McNabb for so long, the team is expected to perform and if Vick gives them a better chance then I think it will be hard for Reid to ignore that.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
after the bradley/kolb debacle there is no way they play him this weekend. None. Not with all the talk of taking conscussions seriously, Godeell would pick up the phone....Well I have Vick and Kolb now, and I'm really starting to worry that this will be down-to-the-wire GTD. If Kolb practices Friday, together with Reid's comments, we'd have to assume Kolb starts. I don't think we can assume he finishes the game though. How many snaps will Vick take away from Kolb now, under the circumstances, for Wildcat/gadget plays?I think there's a good chance neither QB will be worth starting if there's any back and forth over Kolb's health and a GTD looming. That's why I'm now rostering 3 QBs...
