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Foo FightersJust Win BabySkin And Bones

Skin and Bones is a B side song for the DOA single from the In Your Honor album. It was included in the Five Songs and a Cover EP, and also became the title track for the Foos' excellent 2006 live album of the same name.

In 2023, Consequence of Sound ranked what they characterized as all 156 Foo Fighters songs up to that point, ranking Skin and Bones #130. Here is their writeup:

The soothing, albeit ominous, vibes of this In Your Honor B-side are intriguing enough to let you ignore the fact that it’s exceedingly repetitive. It sounds like a church hymn and wouldn’t be out of place in one given the song’s bleak existential imagery and themes. Let’s just say, it warranted a great DVD concert experience of the same name.

Obviously, I don't agree with the #130 ranking. Neither did Spin. Around 2019 (2014 article was updated "4 years ago"), Spin ranked what they characterized as all 152 Foo Fighters songs up to that point, ranking Skin and Bones #40. Here is their writeup:

With its sparse minor-key guitar strumming and buried shuffling drums, this bit of Gothic Americana is the kind of rarity that shows how much more there is to the Foo Fighters than power chords and stadium anthems. More of that, please.

I included the live version from that album as my Spotify link here. More links:
 
#4 - Foo Fighters, who are only not further up because they don't have any highs quite like the first 3

I limited my 90s Seattle list to bands actually from Seattle. If I was broadening it to some broader group of 90s bands, Foo Fighters would have been 1b to Pearl Jam at 1a for me.

As for the bolded, I'll agree to disagree with you about that.
 
Wtf is a slaw dog?
Wha? It is a hotdog with at least slaw on it. I put a little bit of spicy brown mustard on it too. I don't care for chili or onions on mine. A Carolina Slaw Dog is chili, slaw and onions (and sometimes mustard).

When I hear slaw dog, I always think of getting it at Cloos Coney Island hot dog place near NC State campus. Slaw, mustard, and onions, no chili. And pair that with a Coney dog -- chili, onions, mustard. Perfect. I miss that place.
 
To my surprise this was the first Queen and post Layne AiC hearts of this exercise, but Frank Black's Jane the Queen of Love was the deserving recipient of the second half's heart smash. And I made it through a whole play list before any (good!) kid distractions. Well, almost. 20 questions got to me halfway through deadmau5, but we were on a 44 song streak to that point.
 
#4 - Foo Fighters, who are only not further up because they don't have any highs quite like the first 3

I limited my 90s Seattle list to bands actually from Seattle. If I was broadening it to some broader group of 90s bands, Foo Fighters would have been 1b to Pearl Jam at 1a for me.

As for the bolded, I'll agree to disagree with you about that.
Kinda like what I wrote about Cornell, this has much more to do with how high a regard I hold for those above them. While In Your Honor is under consideration as a top 5 rock album of the last 20 years I think Vs, Unplugged, and Jar of Flies are under consideration as top 5 rock albums of all time and each band has at least one other contribution that rivals it.
 
#4 - Foo Fighters, who are only not further up because they don't have any highs quite like the first 3

I limited my 90s Seattle list to bands actually from Seattle. If I was broadening it to some broader group of 90s bands, Foo Fighters would have been 1b to Pearl Jam at 1a for me.

As for the bolded, I'll agree to disagree with you about that.
Kinda like what I wrote about Cornell, this has much more to do with how high a regard I hold for those above them. While In Your Honor is under consideration as a top 5 rock album of the last 20 years I think Vs, Unplugged, and Jar of Flies are under consideration as top 5 rock albums of all time and each band has at least one other contribution that rivals it.

Fair enough. Not sure which unplugged you are referencing here, since Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and AIC all have Unplugged albums. I agree with you about Vs, but I wouldn't have those others so high.

But also, I didn't think of 'highs' as being whole albums, I was thinking more about songs and, at least in the case of the Foos, projects. For example, I don't think any other band has done anything like what the Foos did with Sonic Highways. I like a lot of the songs on that album a lot, but they also filmed an HBO documentary series showing an hour long episode about the making of each one, where each occurred in a different city with a meaningful music scene (at least meaningful to Dave). That is a high (for me) that no other band has even attempted to my knowledge.

As for Cornell, for me Temple of the Dog > Audioslave > Soundgarden > Cornell solo.

Anyway, it's cool to disagree about degrees of fandom. (y)
 
#19 - The Stranglers - 5 Minutes


Year - 1978
Album - Non Album Track
UK Chart position - #11
Vocals - Jean-Jacques Burnel
Key Lyric - They came home on Saturday night
They killed a cat and they raped his wife
And in their eyes there was fear and hate
And when they spoke, they spoke with knives
Five minutes and you're almost there
Five minutes and you're almost dead

Interesting Points

1- The lyrics to this song pertain to an ugly incident at the flat where JJB lived in a rough part of London. The female flatmate worked for the Sex Pistols and was raped by armed (Knives) intruders

2- Another flatmate was Dr Feelgood frontman Wilco Johnson. Lemmy from Motorhead was also a frequent visitor

3- From songfacts
There are some French lyrics at the end of this song, which go along with the rape story. "cherie enculée" roughly translates to "girl who is f--ked."

4- Due to the rapists being black, The Stranglers were accused of racism with the line “Some say that I should hate them all”, but the very next 2 lines clear that up easily “But I say that wouldn't help at all
I just want to find those guys that's all”

5- No More Heroes the LP had just been released in late September 1977, but this song was written and recorded quickly, barely a few months after. It was released in January 1978 and only appears on compilations and extended versions of the preceeding and subsequent LP

Summary to date
Year
1977 - 4
1978 - 3
1979 - 2
1980 - 0
1981 - 1
1982 - 0
1983 - 0
1984 - 2
1985 - 0
1986 - 0
1987 - 0
1988 - 1
1989 - 0
1990 onwards - 0

Where to find
Rattus Norvegicus - 4/9
No More Heroes - 0/11
Black and White - 1/12
The Raven - 2/11
The Gospel According to the Meninblack - 0/10
La Folie - 1/11
Feline - 0/9
Aural Sculpture - 2/11
Dreamtime - 0/10
All Live and All of the Night - 1/13
10 - 0/10
1991 onwards - 0
B Sides - 0
Greatest Hits - 0
Standalone Single - 2

Running Vocal Count
Hugh Cornwell - 7
Jean-Jacques Burnel - 6
Other - 0

Rundown
#31 - Walk on By
#30 - Ugly
#29 - All Day and All of the Night
#28 - Meninblack
#27 - Goodbye Toulouse
#26 - Princess of the Streets
#25 - Sweden (All Quiet on the Eastern Front)
#24 - Duchess
#23 - Sometimes
#22 - La Folie
#21 - North Winds
#20 - No Mercy
#19 - 5 Minutes

Next we get an early song that didnt fit anywhere until it did. It has a rare non cover songwriting credit to someone other than the main 4.
 
Oh, I didn't know the song's origin. Tamps down the "heck of a rock and roll song" comment, though they were smart enough to use a dispassionate "they" in the context of the song, like it happened on the news and is therefore a human abstraction (it isn't, but we all know how we process these things that go on).
 
#19 "Superwoman (Where Were You When I Needed You)"

This is one of the oddest songs Stevie Wonder's ever done. Well, it's actually two songs put together and they are both odd. It's long and meandering, and it feels like he's trying to figure out where to go with it.....until you realize he's already there and it's you who is playing catch-up. Wonder's "1970s voice and keyboard playing" basically start here. The acoustic guitar on the second suite is gorgeous. Stevie did approximately one million songs that followed the pattern of this one, but this is THE template.

By the way, the LP this song is from - Music Of My Mind - is magnificent. If all you know album-wise from Stevie are the Holy Four starting with Talking Book, you owe it to yourself to catch this one - released just before Talking Book. He's working a lot of the themes he'd make mainstream with his following LPs, where he tightened them up and had monster radio hits. If you're a Pink Floyd fan, it's basically his Meddle.
 
I finally had a chance to listen to the #21 playlist. Only a couple behind now!

Excluding my own song, I already knew that I liked these songs:
  • Police - So Lonely
  • SRV - Superstition - I know many here will find this sacrilegious, but I like this version better than Stevie Wonder's version... this is top 10 SRV for me (it is also my favorite song by Stevie W)
On first listen to this playlist, these were the unfamiliar songs I liked the best:
  • Green Day - Restless Heart Syndrome
  • Ryan Adams & The Cardinals - When Will You Come Back Home
  • Slade - Pity The Mother
  • Dinosaur Jr. - Plans
 
So is crappy sappy 80s Chicago just a small fraction of their output, or am I just thinking of mostly Cetera solo songs? I've just been surprised at how much I've dug what has been on the list so far.
Most of the output of theirs I have heard after 1980 has been crappy and sappy. My list entirely consists of songs released before Terry Kath died in 1978.
 
The Hold Steady “Realistic” Dream Setlist Song 13: The Weekenders

She said the theme of this party is the industrial age
You came in dressed like a trainwreck


Album: Heaven is Whenever (Song 2 of 3)

Year: 2010

# of Times Seen Live: 20 of 32 shows (only counting shows since album was released)

The Story: I don't think anyone considers Heaven is Whenever to be in the top half of THS albums but it did give us a few memorable songs, including Mrs. Scorchy’s favorite The Weekenders. Here we get the dude from Chips Ahoy pining away for his clairvoyant ex as well as a shoutout to our beloved @otb_lifer (I" remember the otb, the 5-second delivery, you could say our paths have crossed before").
 
19. Old Days
Album: Chicago VIII (1975)
Writer: James Pankow
Lead vocals: Peter Cetera
Released as a single? Yes (US #5)

Old Days was Chicago VIII's biggest hit and its song that leaned most heavily into the theme of nostalgia. The lyrics are a collection of James Pankow's childhood memories:
Drive-in movies
Comic books and blue jeans
Howdy Doody
Baseball cards and birthdays
Take me back
To the world gone away
Memories
Seem like yesterday

As was often the case with Pankow's songs, Peter Cetera served as his mouthpiece, but this time with less willingness. Cetera hated the lyrics and felt "corny" singing them (this must have become less of an issue for him in the '80s), and at his request the song was dropped from the band's setlists after 1976, though it returned to the live mix after he left the band and was played at the 1995 show I saw.
The song begins with blasts of power chords from Terry Kath but soon shifts into the upbeat pop template, with driving piano, horn interjections and danceable rhythms, that the band had set with Saturday in the Park, Call on Me, etc. What's different is an accompanying string arrangement and a coda with all kinds of vocal tangents (performed by the entire band save the drummer and percussionist).
Live version from New Year's Rockin' Eve, a few months before the song was officially released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knvn4-CSji0
Leonid and Friends version (with orchestra): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRw4kRnay0g

At #18, a song where two of the band's singers play characters and sing about themes that are still relevant today, set to a Motown-inspired arrangement.
 
So is crappy sappy 80s Chicago just a small fraction of their output, or am I just thinking of mostly Cetera solo songs? I've just been surprised at how much I've dug what has been on the list so far.
Most of the output of theirs I have heard after 1980 has been crappy and sappy. My list entirely consists of songs released before Terry Kath died in 1978.
Ah, that's the post and the piece of information I missed.
 
More thoughts and spins.

Bauhaus - "The Passion Of Lovers"

She breaks her heart just a little too much
And her jokes attract the lucky bad type
As she dips and wails and slips her banshee smile
She gets the better of the bigger to the letter


I don't have much to say that otb couldn't say better. I've easily made it through the Bauhaus tracks, and I did not think that would be the case. They're a lot more melodic than I expected from goth music. The beginning sounded like the Cure if it had a fatter, bigger sound. And I can totally see the Fred Schneider thing for those unfamiliar with the lead singer or weird lead singers in general. I heard it and laughed a bit, but he stopped sounding like Schneider pretty instantly and the song settled down in my head.

Taylor Swift - "tolerate it"

I used to draft Taylor. Then she became the worldwide cult of Taylor and I found myself pooh-poohing her a bit in her thread. Sorry about that. She is the world's foremost beautiful, own-the-world sad sack. Man, do people ever eat it up. And I've gotta say that her performance is top-notch and the lyrics moving. It's excellent for what it is. I have some dating advice for Taylor, brought to you by Ian MacKaye: Never mind what you're selling, it's what you're buying. And receiving undefiled.

The Tragically Hip - "Three Pistols"

A little alterna, a little country. I like the driving beat, the four on the floor drumming. All that. It's power pop with a Stipe-esque voice and sensibility. Sounds like it could have been off of Green.

The Police - "Canary In A Coal Mine"

Like it. Very groovy. Very funky. And Sting is in fine form here. This sounds really like pocket prog, which the Police could do, but I more know the hits and Synchronicity.

Frank Black & The Catholics - "Jane the Queen of Love"

Ahh, this is it. This is the brilliant and beautiful weirdness I expect from the former frontman of the Pixies. Beautiful acoustic beginning, then a rocker. Oh, what a drop off at 1:55 or so. Yes. This is the songwriting I want to hear from him.

Clutch - "10001110101"

Did I order that right? I dig this song. Total stoner rock with a little bit of funk (?) thrown in. Oh, definitely funk. Heh. I really dig it.

The shackles of automaton will shatter like their bones

More TK...
 
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I’ve been gone most of the day, we’ve been at the swim club.

1. Soundgarden
2. Screaming Trees
3. Love Battery
4. Nirvana
5. Truly (not on Spotify 😥)
I think we've talked about them before but I'm also a big Truly fan. Fast Stories.....from Kid Coma is an underrated gem of an album. Very unfortunate it's not on Spotify. I have a copy of the CD from a ways back.

I went to high school with Robert Roth. He was an interesting kid.
 
That would have been uncomfortable if the top 15 of his was the crappy sappy 80s stuff. :lol:
I was upfront about there being nothing from after 1977.

Between 32 and 100 I do have a few things from after 1977, mostly from Hot Streets (1978) and XIV (1980). The crappiness and sappiness was starting to creep in (not on tracks I picked), but the full-blown crappy/sappy Chicago started in 1982.
 
I’ve been gone most of the day, we’ve been at the swim club.

1. Soundgarden
2. Screaming Trees
3. Love Battery
4. Nirvana
5. Truly (not on Spotify 😥)
I think we've talked about them before but I'm also a big Truly fan. Fast Stories.....from Kid Coma is an underrated gem of an album. Very unfortunate it's not on Spotify. I have a copy of the CD from a ways back.

I went to high school with Robert Roth. He was an interesting kid.
I think Fast Stories is one of the best albums of the '90s, regardless of genre. It's the perfect fusion of grunge, prog and stoner rock.

I can't say I'm surprised that Roth was "interesting".
 
But also, I didn't think of 'highs' as being whole albums, I was thinking more about songs and, at least in the case of the Foos, projects.
I appreciate how we all absorb music differently. My developing as an album guy (Nirvana Unplugged btw) certainly made finding new music difficult before I started participating in these threads, as albums stopped mattering in the internet age...or I put too much emphasis on arbitrary sequencing when I was younger - probably both. My Foo Fighters library is definitely built more like from the internet age though. I doubt I have more than 4 tracks off each album except for colour and in your honor, but there are some top tier highs littered throughout. I'm hoping your contributions add some more from the last decade or so of their catalog as seeking out new music by them fell by the wayside after echoes :suds:
 
The Hold Steady “Realistic” Dream Setlist Song 13: The Weekenders

She said the theme of this party is the industrial age
You came in dressed like a trainwreck


Album: Heaven is Whenever (Song 2 of 3)

Year: 2010

# of Times Seen Live: 20 of 32 shows (only counting shows since album was released)

The Story: I don't think anyone considers Heaven is Whenever to be in the top half of THS albums but it did give us a few memorable songs, including Mrs. Scorchy’s favorite The Weekenders. Here we get the dude from Chips Ahoy pining away for his clairvoyant ex as well as a shoutout to our beloved @otb_lifer (I" remember the otb, the 5-second delivery, you could say our paths have crossed before").

good lookin' out 😁

the HS bringin' it!
 
19 Sigur Ros - Untitled 3 - (Samskeyti) (Attachment)

Another from ()'s collection of untitled songs, this one is truly instrumental. Just a nice piano piece that stands out on an album filled with droning e-bow guitars, drums, and epic crescendos. This might be the most popular funeral/wedding song choice for many of SR's hardcore fanbase.
 
19 Sigur Ros - Untitled 3 - (Samskeyti) (Attachment)

Another from ()'s collection of untitled songs, this one is truly instrumental. Just a nice piano piece that stands out on an album filled with droning e-bow guitars, drums, and epic crescendos. This might be the most popular funeral/wedding song choice for many of SR's hardcore fanbase.

... were also busy in the 5th at Los Al this afternoon

🐎
 
19 Sigur Ros - Untitled 3 - (Samskeyti) (Attachment)

Another from ()'s collection of untitled songs, this one is truly instrumental. Just a nice piano piece that stands out on an album filled with droning e-bow guitars, drums, and epic crescendos. This might be the most popular funeral/wedding song choice for many of SR's hardcore fanbase.

... were also busy in the 5th at Los Al this afternoon

🐎

Actually a great name for a horse. It translates to Victory Rose.
 
Happy birthday to @jwb !


And thank you for the bday wishes. For a sec there I'm like "wait, fbg doesn;t have bdays" the realized I'm fb friends w/ Krista and that's the platform that makes sure we all remember everyone's bday. 7/3 is a good birthday - being six months from xmas was perfect for gifts as a kid, and I still like to think they are shooting all the fireworks for me.
 
That would have been uncomfortable if the top 15 of his was the crappy sappy 80s stuff. :lol:
I was upfront about there being nothing from after 1977.

Between 32 and 100 I do have a few things from after 1977, mostly from Hot Streets (1978) and XIV (1980). The crappiness and sappiness was starting to creep in (not on tracks I picked), but the full-blown crappy/sappy Chicago started in 1982.
Sorry, after I read that I did hazily remember a mention of a cutoff, but sometimes when people talk members of bands I don't know, I didn't fully absorb the info. For shtick maybe I'll tackle Peter Cetera for Round 2 of this. ;)
 
That would have been uncomfortable if the top 15 of his was the crappy sappy 80s stuff. :lol:
I was upfront about there being nothing from after 1977.

Between 32 and 100 I do have a few things from after 1977, mostly from Hot Streets (1978) and XIV (1980). The crappiness and sappiness was starting to creep in (not on tracks I picked), but the full-blown crappy/sappy Chicago started in 1982.
Sorry, after I read that I did hazily remember a mention of a cutoff, but sometimes when people talk members of bands I don't know, I didn't fully absorb the info. For shtick maybe I'll tackle Peter Cetera for Round 2 of this. ;)
Of course.
 

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