Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
Why not Forest Gregg...to even out the rivalry with Rodgers?Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
RIP Greg OlsenRIP Jay.
Take Bart Starr...he sucked as a coach.Why not Forest Gregg...to even out the rivalry with Rodgers?Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
Probably should snag a TB coach too....just so the whole Central can be back together...Gruden or Wyche would be sufficient.Take Bart Starr...he sucked as a coach.Why not Forest Gregg...to even out the rivalry with Rodgers?Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
"Hey, we're getting the band back together."Probably should snag a TB coach too....just so the whole Central can be back together...Gruden or Wyche would be sufficient.Take Bart Starr...he sucked as a coach.Why not Forest Gregg...to even out the rivalry with Rodgers?Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
Maybe the "coach effect" will distract everyone long enough that management will be able to throw Lovie from the train without blinking an eye... Or maybe things work themselves out? Either way, Lovie better learn to stop-drop-and-roll. It's gonna be a long off-season...not to mention the nice fights between Moronelli and Martz. I think this will be a trainwreck with the personalities on the coaching staff.
Lovie....Probably should snag a TB coach too....just so the whole Central can be back together...Gruden or Wyche would be sufficient.Take Bart Starr...he sucked as a coach.Why not Forest Gregg...to even out the rivalry with Rodgers?Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
The Bears tried with Clements. Packers did not allow interview....Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
I think the trade for Cutler signaled the end of that mind set.Someone in the organization wants a high scoring QB-driven offense.I think that someone will not be with the team next year (unless her name is Virginia).Seems like a puzzling hire for an offense that has long prided itself on grinding it out in the trenches.
RIP Greg OlsenRIP Jay.
These two are part of my dynasty squad "foundation".RIP Greg OlsenRIP Jay.
Sell now!!!These two are part of my dynasty squad "foundation".RIP Greg OlsenRIP Jay.
Always figured they were needed more as blockers in Martz scheme.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
i'm sure that's already been discussed. Greg Olsen just fell in the rankings like a bowling ball through cheesecloth.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
I have to go wth good on this one, if anyone on the bears is gonna be better because of this it's Forte. he's gonna continue to catch a lot of passes so if it's a ppr league that's great for you hell he may even catch more passes than before it's definitely possible, like a poor man's Marshall Faulk or something. And like the other fbg said no one runs the ball more inside the five than Martz.I just traded for FORTE in a dynasty league. Don't know if this is good or bad.
Those stats may be a bit misleading. It is the argument of cause and effect.Does Martz actually not throw to the TEs because of their position, or was it because Martz has never had a good TE like Olsen to use? Some people may argue that Vernon Davis is a good TE, but he really only seemed to have jumped into a more prominent role this past year.I don't know the answer but are Cam Cleeland, Ernie Conell, Brandon Manumaleuma, Roland Williams, Marcus Pollard and Vernon Davis the best set of TEs to make a judgment on that Martz just avoids TEs all together?i'm sure that's already been discussed. Greg Olsen just fell in the rankings like a bowling ball through cheesecloth.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
If he wanted to exploit the TE...geez, I dunno...I guess he could have brought someone in that he wanted. Did he have a say on any of his QBs, RBs, and WRs over the years or did he just settle for whatever he could find?Those stats may be a bit misleading. It is the argument of cause and effect.Does Martz actually not throw to the TEs because of their position, or was it because Martz has never had a good TE like Olsen to use? Some people may argue that Vernon Davis is a good TE, but he really only seemed to have jumped into a more prominent role this past year.i'm sure that's already been discussed. Greg Olsen just fell in the rankings like a bowling ball through cheesecloth.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
I don't know the answer but are Cam Cleeland, Ernie Conell, Brandon Manumaleuma, Roland Williams, Marcus Pollard and Vernon Davis the best set of TEs to make a judgment on that Martz just avoids TEs all together?
Martz and Cutler should be a good fit. They probably deserve each other.The last 7 years for Martz-led offenses (2002-2008): 153 TDs, 157 INTs (average of 22-23) with an average of 51 sacks per year - this is right up Cutler's wheelhouse.Martz teams have averaged 15.8th best in scoring: 23, 9, 6, 9, 22, 19, 23.He basically gets a lot of yards, a bunch of turnovers, a ####-pile of sacks.So, a mediocre offense, and an aging defense. Can't wait!In before - "well now Martz has a HOF-caliber QB to work with."ETA - his terrible TD/INT ratio are not the result of one bad year - the BEST year was 2008 where it was 21-19 - this was one of only 2 years in the last 7 where his QB had more TDs than INTs.
Since Forte is a good receiving back, I'd think it would help him in PPR leagues and hurt him a bit in non-PPR.Help or Hurt Forte? I think it hurts him. Martz is pass happy
That's about right, imo, but it's important to note that his 2009 performance should be the baseline, i.e. he's going to be a pretty bad starting RB in fantasy terms in 2010. Do not count on 2008-type numbers from Forte ever again, unless something significant changes about his situation.Since Forte is a good receiving back, I'd think it would help him in PPR leagues and hurt him a bit in non-PPR.Help or Hurt Forte? I think it hurts him. Martz is pass happy
Martz says he's never had a TE like Olsen. He called him "a mismatch" for other teams.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
dont forget the bears have Kevin Jones, another catching RB, and martz may use both. im speculating and will know a bit more in the next few days and definitely what the plan is before the draft.That's about right, imo, but it's important to note that his 2009 performance should be the baseline, i.e. he's going to be a pretty bad starting RB in fantasy terms in 2010. Do not count on 2008-type numbers from Forte ever again, unless something significant changes about his situation.Since Forte is a good receiving back, I'd think it would help him in PPR leagues and hurt him a bit in non-PPR.Help or Hurt Forte? I think it hurts him. Martz is pass happy
obviously he's never heard of Vernon Davis.Martz says he's never had a TE like Olsen. He called him "a mismatch" for other teams.No TE has ever caught more than 38 balls in a season under a Mike Martz offense, discuss please.
The good news is, think of all of the candidates for the position of interim coach. They could replace the coach like 5 times before they run out of guys on staff who have NFL head coaching experience.Can the Bears hire Mike Sherman too...and just be a whole team coached by ex NFC North coaches (Marinelli, Martz, Tice...) they just need some former Packer coach representation.There are a lot of former head coaches. I wonder how much ego-clashing is going to happen this season.
3666 yards, 27 TDs this year to those same receivers.Any chance he improves on those numbers with Martz at OC? Has a Martz offense ever had fewer that 4000 passing yards?Can't wait to see Martz install his high-flyin', pass-happy offense with Jay Cutler slingin' the rock to all . . . those . . . great . . . receivers?