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If the Packers fired McCarthy and went with an up and comer I would be happy. If they fired him and went with a retread that is currently out of work I would be annoyed. He isn't the worst coach in the league, but he is far from the best.
He errs on the side of conservative decisionmaking all the time. It's a continuing problem.
Sho: just popping back to *nod* to your earlier comment. The point of the play-by-play post was to emphasize that McCarthy/Rodgers never ever looked at throwing or running at Sherman. So both overly conservative (imo) AND just plain stupid. Lack of killer instinct here. Going back to my first comment in this thread, when you see a glaring weakness...you don't ignore it and just figure...ah shucks, we got this game in hand. You exploit it for all it's worth!
Yeah I don't think too many Packer fans are suggesting that but maybe taking a little bit of accountability for the epic meltdown would be nice. He's a decent coach who like many had a bad day...it's certainly not all on him.
I'm sure if he had gone for it and been stopped, coming away with no points and giving all the momentum back to the home crowd, the armchair fantasy coaches on social media would have lauded his decision.
5 turnovers...ok...why do you think 3 of them had zero to do with scheme. I give you the special teams fumbles. But the first...was tipped, sure. Why? Because the ball had to be out front because the coverage was very good.
Not completely content...but it does not bother me as bad as some.
Difference in playing on the road vs. at home IMO.
For Shame, you are going straight to hell...or at least some dark dirty room in the basement of lambeau where they keep the non-believers.
Some of Belichick's "genius" isn't brilliant schemes it's drilling the small things into his players. Like when your job is to block on an onside kick you don't jump in front of the teams best wr who is waiting to catch the ball. Guarantee an idiot like that is cut immediately.
Uh, Seattle got a ton of breaks, too, most notably the onsides kick, the 2-point conversion, the coin flip, and even the winning TD. You know, every important play at the end of the game.
Yup, absolutely. At least the ones I follow would have lauded the decision regardless of result. You're talking about between 4 and 5 expected points if you go for it vs 2.9 expected points if you try the FG. And even in the unlikely event of failure you still likely get 20+ yards of field position in a high-leverage area, where play calls restricted in order to avoid a safety and you still may come away with a safety or get the ball back on the opponents' side of the 50. This is the easiest call of the game. McCarthy flat-out blew it. He should be forced to account for it; it's stupid that we force coaches to account for "risky calls" that fail but not "safe calls" that backfire, even when they backfire dramatically like we see here.
But McCarthy's decisions didn't backfire. Playing as an 8.5 point underdog on the road against a champion team that crushed the Packers in week 1, he had his team in a position where a win was almost certain, where only the most improbable series of events could cost the game. This with his star QB having an off day (generously described). It took a stunning, unbelievable lack of focus and failure to execute on the part of several players to achieve this result.
If he'd made the correct decisions on those plays his team would have had a better chance of winning the game. His team did not win the game. Therefore they backfired. The unlikelihood of the comeback that followed doesn't make the decision any less stupid.
I don't understand this logic. I disagree with coaching 4th and 1 differently regardless of whether you are home or away. That being said, why would you try to minimize risk/reward when you are the away team? If you were going to alter your strategy it should be the other way around. Minimize risk when you are the favorite, maximize reward when you are the dog.
I can't help but think what the narrative would be if GB had hung on and won the game 19-7. No points given up by the defense. Everybody would be in here praising McCarthy on what a great game plan he had to shut out the Seahawks, a huge favorite in the game playing at home. Of course, there are some that would still have something to ##### about. It's very easy to criticize the results of plays after you know the end result.
I might be...but it needs to be said.
Id have to go back and see if its something I have read or heard somewhere about coaches and changing how they do things on the road vs. home.parasaurolophus said:
Exactly...get that INT...and now say the 4 minute offense works like it did against Dallas the week before (or other weeks this year) where they ran effectively and could run down the clock or run it out.
Not to give Rodgers a pass but according to Bill Scott on 5 of the 6 final offensive plays (3rd and 16 being the lone exception) they had their multiple TE extra offensive lineman in. Rodgers could not check out of a run play in those instances.
But his decisions did backfire. It will go down as one of the biggest coaching choke jobs in NFL playoff history, right up there with the Oilers/Bills in '93. It was like a legendary Martyball meltdown. These coaches bring the bad luck on themselves due to making bad decisions at several points in the game. At least after that Oilers game there was some accountability, as the DC got fired the following day.
Tom Brady has punted on third down three times in his career. The Patriots have won all three games.
I agree but I think more focus should have been on the horrible playcalling in the 2nd half. That's where they really gave the game away. You have Aaron Rodgers, try to score don't try to kill the clock with a 2 score lead in the 3rd quarter.
I'm not sure, but if memory serves me, Philbin might have been calling the plays.
