Mike Tyson Vs Jake Paul? (1 Viewer)

[culdeus]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Guys balance was way off. Which is part of getting older. He barely got shoved on one of the hits and flopped into the rope.

His physical shape wouldn't really suggest he had eq issues.

 

[chet]

+225/-300 on BetUS

 

[D-Day]

Think of whatever will get you to watch the rematch or next Paul fight, and that is what is going to happen.

My guess is Paul goes down once or twice (2nd and fourth round), the fight goes the distance, but Paul wins the decision by winning all but two rounds.

 

[NewlyRetired]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

It is also worth noting that Holyfield’s opponent was a completely washed, retired MMA fighter who had only boxed once in his life 15 years earlier and was knocked out.

 

[3C's]

I once had a large deli meat slicer thrown at me pretty hard by a 70+ senior citizen, who still had his muscle mass. I agree with those saying Tyson can absolutely win this.

Man, we need to hear this story.

Did you get any cold cuts from it?

****ing need the laugh reaction, well done!

 

[3C's]

I'm 61 and can kick Aaron Paul's ***.

Yeah, I said it!

 

[3C's]

Not sure if it was mentioned but the sentiment is Tyson did the slap because Paul stepped on his foot. And apparently that's a big no no. Maybe the slap wasn't scripted but maybe the foot "stomp" was from the Paul side and they got the reaction they were looking for.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Not a big Tyson fan but I sincerely hope he destroys this *******.

 

[-fish-]

this is like betting on professional wrestling. If I was going to bet, I would bet on either a decision or a disqualification. With two minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves I seriously doubt there's much chance of a knockout. I don't understand why the line is moving in the opposite direction of the public money.

 

[Softballguy]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

It is also worth noting that Holyfield’s opponent was a completely washed, retired MMA fighter who had only boxed once in his life 15 years earlier and was knocked out.

The kind of fighter Paul has been knocking out. This just feels like a bad situation for Tyson.

 

[dmac37]

DraftKings now offering a 25% profit boost for the fight.

 

[Hawks64]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Belfort was a striker in the UFC and is tied for 5th most knockouts in UFC history I believe. Paul doesn't have Belfort's abilities, nowhere close to them IMO.

 

[Capella]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

It is also worth noting that Holyfield’s opponent was a completely washed, retired MMA fighter who had only boxed once in his life 15 years earlier and was knocked out.

Also worth pointing out Holyfield’s brains were sadly mashed potatoes at this point. I’m not sure Tyson is splitting any atoms after this but he does seem like he still is functioning.

 

[NewlyRetired]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Belfort was a striker in the UFC and is tied for 5th most knockouts in UFC history I believe. Paul doesn't have Belfort's abilities, nowhere close to them IMO.

Belfort was a certified killer when he was on TRT. He created some of the most viscous moments in MMA history.

But that was long long before this fight. He was 44 when he fought Holyfield and was no where near the killer you and I remember.

 

[Hawks64]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Belfort was a striker in the UFC and is tied for 5th most knockouts in UFC history I believe. Paul doesn't have Belfort's abilities, nowhere close to them IMO.

Belfort was a certified killer when he was on TRT. He created some of the most viscous moments in MMA history.

But that was long long before this fight. He was 44 when he fought Holyfield and was no where near the killer you and I remember.

Correct, my point was that at 44 he's a significantly better fighter than Paul could ever be.

 

[Softballguy]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Belfort was a striker in the UFC and is tied for 5th most knockouts in UFC history I believe. Paul doesn't have Belfort's abilities, nowhere close to them IMO.

Belfort isn't my point... it could have been any competent younger fighter in the ring and Holyfield isn't getting out of the first round.

Look, I'm just saying... Holyfield was in amazing shape for a 58 year old guy, and is a HOF fighter. I agree he wasn't cognitively all there, at least not as much as Tyson, but when the rubber meets the road, age shows. I can't imagine Tyson looks anywhere near as bad as Holyfield, but I'm going to bet he looks older than we're all expecting. And I think we're all underestimating Paul's boxing ability. He's by no means a world beater, but it's not like he's a random dude. He's been training for years, is in prime physical age, and looks to be in very good shape.

I'm putting a big bet on Paul, but I'll be happy to lose it if I'm wrong. Just don't see that happening.

 

[NewlyRetired]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Belfort was a striker in the UFC and is tied for 5th most knockouts in UFC history I believe. Paul doesn't have Belfort's abilities, nowhere close to them IMO.

Belfort was a certified killer when he was on TRT. He created some of the most viscous moments in MMA history.

But that was long long before this fight. He was 44 when he fought Holyfield and was no where near the killer you and I remember.

Correct, my point was that at 44 he's a significantly better fighter than Paul could ever be.

As a Fighter, unquestionably, but as a pure boxer that is another story imo.

Silva was as good or better a pure striker than Vitor was in MMA. And Paul out boxed Silva to a UD. Silva was 47 at the time.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

I think 99% of the world wants to see Tyson kick this guy’s a$$. Me included

A good visual would be for Paul walking around like Jack Nicholson at the very end of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

 

[bagger]

Sure the slap was staged. Sure the entire lead up has been staged. Tyson going down in the 2nd might also be the plan. The problem is Tyson. The moment he takes his first punch the animal will come out. Its what made him what he is. Looks to be in phenomenal shape. Still an old man that shouldn't be fighting, but I'll watch just see how the hell he holds up. He just needs one vintage Tyson uppercut. Just one. Go Mike.

I don’t know. I also think there’s a good chance the first time he gets punched he realizes why the hell is he doing this and quits.

He didn’t have the heart at the end of his career. Maybe he has gotten it back in his time away. I am rooting for Tyson for this to be real and he kicks Paul’s ***. But am bracing for neither being true.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in here but they are using 14oz gloves instead of the standard 10oz gloves.

I’m not much of a boxing fan. Do 4 oz really make that big a difference?

Walk in time “about 11 pm est”

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Think of whatever will get you to watch the rematch or next Paul fight, and that is what is going to happen.

My guess is Paul goes down once or twice (2nd and fourth round), the fight goes the distance, but Paul wins the decision by winning all but two rounds.

I say it’s close. With a few flurries from Tyson that obviously rock Paul. And the same from Paul. And after Tyson’s best round, he doesn’t answer the bell. Broken hand blames it on the big gloves.

TKO Paul

 

[NewlyRetired]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in here but they are using 14oz gloves instead of the standard 10oz gloves.

I’m not much of a boxing fan. Do 4 oz really make that big a difference?

Yes. It makes a difference. 14 oz gloves are typically only used in sparing because they are much safer.

They are not quite pillows per say as you might hear fight fans hyperbolize, but the increased effective force you need to knock someone out with the extra padding is pretty big.

This is why the Texas Athletic commission would only sanction the fight with the safer gloves.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

It is also worth noting that Holyfield’s opponent was a completely washed, retired MMA fighter who had only boxed once in his life 15 years earlier and was knocked out.

Also worth pointing out Holyfield’s brains were sadly mashed potatoes at this point. I’m not sure Tyson is splitting any atoms after this but he does seem like he still is functioning.

Tyson is totally coherent and focused.

Holyfield didn't look in shape there. Not sure who the opponent was.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The quote where Tyson says his kids don't know who he is, but after tonight they are going to know he is special gets me -- I think he is actually motivated. Does he still have enough power and speed? I don't know, but I think he is taking this seriously.

 

[TLEF316]

I was never a HUGE boxing fan (liked it enough in the 90's/early 2000's, but never enough to actually pay for a pay per view or anything) but it really is sad how far the sport has fallen. A 60 year old man vs This guy? That's really the best this sport can do now?

That's rough.

Also kinda surprised that Tyson was only like 43 when he did his cameo in The Hangover. Feel like he was older than that.

 

[Corporation]

As mentioned earlier, it's just so hard to watch this and not think that age is going to make this too difficult for Tyson. Tyson appears to be a younger 58 year old than Holyfield, but they are both former world champs, and Holyfield did look like a competent fighter going into this. But man... once the punches started flying Holyfield looked every bit a 58 year old.

Yeah unfortunately this is where I'm landing. Father Time is undefeated. Mike has looked good in the promoted clips they have put on social media but I'm afraid 30 years is just too much to give up. I really hope Mike just tears him apart but I'm afraid Paul will take it.

 

[Todem]

Well, I'm going on record that Tyson wins this. I would like to add "if" it's legit, but truth is we won't ever know.

I'm still shocked so many of you think this easily goes to Paul.

I think we will know.

If Paul carries Tyson to a decision, then that would almost certainly point to a pre arranged result.

If either fighter gets knocked out, then that would almost certainly point to a real fight as neither of these guys is taking a dive imo. Faking a knockout would absolutely kill Paul’s hope of stringing this along a few more years.

I dunno, as someone pointed out earlier the fact that this is a sanctioned fight and one where money is being legally wagered I can't see how a fix could be involved as that would bring the legal house down on all parties involved. As we all know the only professional sport that is allowed to be rigged is the NFL and that's only because they have the money to keep folks mouths shut. No way do Tyson/Paul have that kind of leverage.

I know you’re making a joke, but the NFL is not legit. It is sports entertainment and is legally allowed to manipulate the game to make it competitive - seriously, go look it up.

Again, I’m not saying they’re “rigged” but they are 100% without question “massaged”.

I have been getting that feeling a lot more lately than I ever have in my life.

 

[IC FBGCav]

It might have been brought up already but didn't a much smaller Pettis(ufc fighter) beat Roy Jones Jr after Tyson had a draw with Jones like a decade ago?

 

[NewlyRetired]

It might have been brought up already but didn't a much smaller Pettis(ufc fighter) beat Roy Jones Jr after Tyson had a draw with Jones like a decade ago?

Jones at 55 years old, fought Pettis at 36 year old. It was the first boxing match for Pettis. This fight was last year. Pettis won a split decision.

Tyson and Jones boxed in 2020 but it was not sanctioned and was considered an exhibition fight. This fight was a draw.

Note that the Tyson-Jones fight headlined the card that Jake Paul had his first fight.

Tyson and Holyfield were suppose to fight but when they could not get that done, Tyson and Jones were able to make a deal and Holyfield went his own way (as mentioned here in the thread a few times)

 

[ILUVBEER99]

this is like betting on professional wrestling. If I was going to bet, I would bet on either a decision or a disqualification. With two minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves I seriously doubt there's much chance of a knockout. I don't understand why the line is moving in the opposite direction of the public money.

It’s because all the big bets are on Paul.

The public is throwing tons of $25/50/$100 bets on Tyson. The big betters are throwing multiple thousands on Paul.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The public is throwing tons of $25/50/$100 bets on Tyson. The big betters are throwing multiple thousands on Paul.

The two biggest bets on Paul both came in a $500k as of yesterday.

 

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Tonight’s the night

 

[Penguin]

As of last night MGM said this will be the most bet boxing match in history, more than McGregor - Mayweather. All the money is on Tyson, they can't get any Paul money.

Bill Krackomberger said he talked to one sports book director that said his shop was upside down 8 figures with Tyson money.

Yes there's a chance Tyson catches him early but the books need Paul in the worst way and I'll side with them.

 

[Penguin]

The line originally opened Paul -350 and is down to -200 and even -190 if you shop around.

 

[Penguin]

MGM Bet said 85% of tickets are on Tyson

 

[FarFromHome]

As of last night MGM said this will be the most bet boxing match in history, more than McGregor - Mayweather. All the money is on Tyson, they can't get any Paul money.

Bill Krackomberger said he talked to one sports book director that said his shop was upside down 8 figures with Tyson money.

Yes there's a chance Tyson catches him early but the books need Paul in the worst way and I'll side with them.

Wow. I guess hard for some of the really good boxing matches in the past to compete with today's culture of gambling. Its just so much easier to do today. Its everywhere. Still, the most bet boxing match ever? Crazy

 

[Penguin]

The public is throwing tons of $25/50/$100 bets on Tyson. The big betters are throwing multiple thousands on Paul.

The two biggest bets on Paul both came in a $500k as of yesterday.

What shop was crazy enough to take $500k on this charade?

 

[NewlyRetired]

The public is throwing tons of $25/50/$100 bets on Tyson. The big betters are throwing multiple thousands on Paul.

The two biggest bets on Paul both came in a $500k as of yesterday.

What shop was crazy enough to take $500k on this charade?

I don't know, it was from an article that was posted in this thread yesterday.

The article mentioned the same thing you said about MGM, in that Tyson is getting almost ALL of the small bets and that is overwhelming the few large bets they were receiving on Paul.

 

[Penguin]

As of last night MGM said this will be the most bet boxing match in history, more than McGregor - Mayweather. All the money is on Tyson, they can't get any Paul money.

Bill Krackomberger said he talked to one sports book director that said his shop was upside down 8 figures with Tyson money.

Yes there's a chance Tyson catches him early but the books need Paul in the worst way and I'll side with them.

Wow. I guess hard for some of the really good boxing matches in the past to compete with today's culture of gambling. Its just so much easier to do today. Its everywhere. Still, the most bet boxing match ever? Crazy

It was on Gil Alexander's showing, "A numbers game" on VISN. You can find it on X, very good listen.

 

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What time is the actual Tyson/Paul fight going to start? Guessing there will be a ****losd of leadup.

 

[Capella]

MGM Bet said 85% of tickets are on Tyson

Ok I’m the rube then

 

[Capella]

Telling friends in my group chat “I’m getting the Tyson fight tonight if you want to bring some pizzas and beer” — nobody has caught on yet.

 

[Penguin]

6 fights prior to the main event including the Taylor - Serrano rematch. I'm guessing around 11:30 - Midnight eastern

ETA: just read Netflix decided to only show the 4 main card fights so it should be earlier than I said but who knows what they're doing between fights, rappers, strippers etc.

 

[Scoresman]

I was never a HUGE boxing fan (liked it enough in the 90's/early 2000's, but never enough to actually pay for a pay per view or anything) but it really is sad how far the sport has fallen. A 60 year old man vs This guy? That's really the best this sport can do now?

That's rough.

Also kinda surprised that Tyson was only like 43 when he did his cameo in The Hangover. Feel like he was older than that.

It's because of the rising of MMA UFC and similar garbage. Men apparently like watching other men roll around barefoot in the missionary position I guess. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[FarFromHome]

I was never a HUGE boxing fan (liked it enough in the 90's/early 2000's, but never enough to actually pay for a pay per view or anything) but it really is sad how far the sport has fallen. A 60 year old man vs This guy? That's really the best this sport can do now?

That's rough.

Also kinda surprised that Tyson was only like 43 when he did his cameo in The Hangover. Feel like he was older than that.

It's because of the rising of MMA UFC and similar garbage. Men apparently like watching other men roll around barefoot in the missionary position I guess. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

When Tyson lost to Buster it stung. It was the peak of my boxing interest. Then the UFC came and pulled me in. Bj Penn, Matt Hughes, St Pierre, Anderson Silva etc. I lost interrest in boxing completely Today, I've basically lost interest in both. UFC cards haven't done it for me in years. Surprisenly enough, this fight has given me more interest then any in years. Stupid promotors. Ha ha

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, MMA has no appeal to me. I respect the skill that it takes. Those guys are modern day gladiators. But it just doesn't feel like a sport to me. If its a striker-type fight, it just seems like a worse version of boxing (obviously more violent due to the gloves, but it usually seems like they're just flailing around). And if its more of a ground/wrestling type fight....its just not entertaining.

 

[El Floppo]

When I heard about Paul int he last couple years, I wanted to hate... Just based on what I'd heard... So caught a fight (after the fact- never going to out a penny in that guy's pocket). He fought some pro boxer... Not good, not bad.. journeyman pro. I was surprised at how competent Paul was- decent jab, decent movement, and enough power to hurt the guy. Was clearly the better fighter than this journeyman.

What that means against grandpa Tyson? Dunno. But my guess is he'll be able to move and jab to frustrate Mike, and is decent enough to lock him up if/when Mike gets inside. Barring a big punch one way or the other, I think it goes the distance and Paul wins.

 

[dmac37]

I want to go Tyson with the odds at +220 now looking for a one hit KO but the 14oz gloves are a concern for that.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

prelims are on right now on youtube

 

[Ted Stickles]

With 2-minute rounds, it'll be round 8 in the blink of an eye.

Jake Paul will jab-grab-clinch, ref breaks them, Paul continues to jab-grab-clinch.

Whenever Tyson gets inside Paul does the grab-clinch.

Paul via decision.