MNF Thread (2 Viewers)

[hook014]

What a game.  Big loss for the Eagles.  Home field, up all game and all the sudden bam-bam Dallas goes up, McNabb is reinjured and playoffs for Eagles is looking like a long shot.  Wow.

Regardless of what many have said this team is not better without TO.

all I have to say is TO would have made that catch that Reggie Brown should have had but dropped, in fact he probably would have scoredI hope the eagles lose every game the rest of the season and i hope the team comes away from every near victory knowing that they would have won if they'd dealt with TO rather than quit on him

This was completely uncalled for and calls your credibility into question.Are you Drew?

 

[Smitty72]

Can you say SWEEP?  Dallas finally wins in Philly? 

Life is good, and I win a nice chunk of money on the moneyline tonight.

Like we care if you won or lost $$ on the game tonight?

I care, and that is all that is important. This was my first online wagers, so bite me.

Your 1st online wager? No s @ the end there genius.

 

[Avery]

Was that kicked tipped in any way?  The Commish of my league says he looked at it frame by frame and wouldn't be surprised if a stat correction is given to add a blocked kick. This would turn a W into an L and was wondering if anyone else saw it.

If there was a :graspingatstraws: smiley I'd use it here, but you never know.Best of luck with that.

If I was going to lose, why would I be grasping for this straw?

Guess I misread that.How about a :worriedaboutnothin: smiley instead?

 

[Aerial Assault]

Ayup.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

They might have won.................but he's suspended.What if Dallas had a healthy Julius Jones. Does he make an extra play or two. You have to evaluate the game for who was playing in the game.Is Philly a better team right now with him in the lineup........yes. Are they going to be a better team in the future because they're not letting him run the ship, yes.Philly outplayed Dallas for 3.5 quarters. Dallas dominated Washington and Seattle this year and lost both games deep into the 4th quarters. I honostly feel for the philly fans because it's like getting punched in the stomach when something like this happens.As big as a loss for Philly, it's a huge win for the Cowboys. They're tied for the division lead now with a .5 game lead because of the head to head win vs. Giants earlier in the season. The Cowboys have the Lions coming up at home and should expose the Lion offense for what it is, just a little better than USC.

 

[datonn]

Perhaps they are better off in the long run, but that was a CRUCIAL game for this year. TO would have been the difference in that game.

Absolutely correct. Would/could the Eagles have made it back to the Big Dance in 2005 though anyway with the trouble that was brewing in that locker room? I don't know..... Playoffs? Sure. A Super Bowl appearance? Maybe, but when one of your employees uses the media to publicly call out and criticize his teammates and (indirectly) the owners and/or coaching staff, they need to be shown the door.....star or no star. The fact that the Eagles will get no rings and no trade value as a result of the T.O. experiment has to be the worst thing for the organization and its fans to swallow, but it is what it is........What a waste though.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Terrell Owens was a non factor in the first meeting, no reason to assume that he would have saved this game, nor to think he would have been the target in that last pass.

Hey, if we're gonna get all speculatin and stuff, I'll go way out on a limb and say yeah, TO might have had an impact in this game. Kind of a close finish and they could have used a clutch play to put them a smidgin closer to the goal post.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Was that kicked tipped in any way?  The Commish of my league says he looked at it frame by frame and wouldn't be surprised if a stat correction is given to add a blocked kick. This would turn a W into an L and was wondering if anyone else saw it.

If there was a :graspingatstraws: smiley I'd use it here, but you never know.Best of luck with that.

If I was going to lose, why would I be grasping for this straw?

Guess I misread that.How about a :worriedaboutnothin: smiley instead?

That I would take. I really don't want to worry for half a week or so til stat corrections come out so I hope it is a nil chance of changing. Commish made a post about what he saw and I was curious if anyone else saw or think they would go back and look at it so closely as he did.

 

[LHUCKS]

They might have won.................but he's suspended.

You're missing the point.The Eagles chose to suspend Owens and they chose to handle the situation the way that they did leading up to the suspension. The Cowboys didn't choose for Julius to be injured.

If you make TO the top paid WR in the NFL, the Eagles would be a frontrunner in the NFC...they'll be lucky to make the playoffs now.

 

[Raider Nation]

Lost to Santana Moss earlier in the year. Now, a loss because of the TD return by Roy Williams. Hmm, up 5 points with 3 minutes to go - only way to lose now is a TD return. Neat, there it is.

Give me the shirt!

Your screen name made me

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Guess this wasn't premature after all.

Start rebuilding Philly.

I am hardly an Eagles apologist. However, Rebuilding?They have a team loaded with talent, not to mention a healthy cap. Why, exactly, should they start rebuilding?

 

[SOmojo]

Can you say SWEEP?  Dallas finally wins in Philly? 

Life is good, and I win a nice chunk of money on the moneyline tonight.

Like we care if you won or lost $$ on the game tonight?

I care, and that is all that is important. This was my first online wagers, so bite me.

Dude, I am all geeked up over this. I make bets at work and crap like that, first time for me to make the plunge online. I am pissed because I was going to bet on margin of victory which paid 4-1 if I picked Dallas to win by 1-6 points. I was convinced that Dallas would blow the Eagles out though, so I stuck with the moneyline. Your 1st online wager? No s @ the end there genius.

 

[Das Boot]

Just a wild guess, but I think the Eagles Mgmt. realized that TO was an on field talent they wouldn't be able to replace.

But apparently they decided that TO's negative attributes outweighed his one positive attribute (namely physical talent).

We all know what depths NFL teams will sink to to win.

So what does that say about TO?

Toxic comes to mind.

Boot.

 

[shakeybarn]

T.O does not drop that ball

eagles get in fg range

they have a great shot of winning

alas..

reggie dropped it.. akers had a kick from nebraska.. boys win!

Funny, so with TO in the lineup vs Dallas the first time... how would TO's 5 catches for 50 yards of worked wonders tonight.You guys are using this as an excuse, had McMullen caught it, and a chip shot for Akers... your pieholes woulda been quiet.

 

[LHUCKS]

Just a wild guess, but I think the Eagles Mgmt. realized that TO was an on field talent they wouldn't be able to replace.

But apparently they decided that TO's negative attributes outweighed his one positive attribute (namely physical talent).

Would they have faced his negative attributes if they would have met him in the middle on salary demands?

 

[stugnut]

If TO was was playing QB, maybe he wouldn't have thrown a laser to Roy Williams. So yes, they win with TO.

 

[Smitty72]

Can you say SWEEP?  Dallas finally wins in Philly? 

Life is good, and I win a nice chunk of money on the moneyline tonight.

Like we care if you won or lost $$ on the game tonight?

I care, and that is all that is important. This was my first online wagers, so bite me.

Dude, I am all geeked up over this. I make bets at work and crap like that, first time for me to make the plunge online. I am pissed because I was going to bet on margin of victory which paid 4-1 if I picked Dallas to win by 1-6 points. I was convinced that Dallas would blow the Eagles out though, so I stuck with the moneyline. Your 1st online wager? No s @ the end there genius.

You should have trusted your gut and got the 4-1 odds but oh well nice job anyway. I think its hilarious that the Eagles season is imploding because they chose to suspend the best WR in football. R.I.P. Philadelphia Eagles!!

 

[SOmojo]

Terrell Owens was a non factor in the first meeting, no reason to assume that he would have saved this game, nor to think he would have been the target in that last pass. 

Hey, if we're gonna get all speculatin and stuff, I'll go way out on a limb and say yeah, TO might have had an impact in this game. Kind of a close finish and they could have used a clutch play to put them a smidgin closer to the goal post.

And I will say..... Take this however you want....Had Terrell Owens been playing, the Eagles would have not entered this game runnign the ball more than passing. Instead, they would have once again been throwing the ball constantly, which the Cowboys expected to happen.

Get off the T.O. bandwagon, two of the wheels have already broken off, and you will most likely get seriously injured if you dont jump off now.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What an informative thread for the sharkpool.Should I get JP Losman off waivers?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't understand all this they would have won with TO. He's suspended..............and the EAgles were the ones that suspended him It wasn't the league, it was the EAgles.You can't have it both ways. Eagles fans love saying how well they run their organization........that's cool. Make a stand, put TO in his place and all that.But when you lose a close game, don't say you would have won....you have to sleep in the bed you made.Let's talk about how Brown didn't make that catch. Let's talk about the possibility of Mike McMahon playing QB next week.Talking about whether or not the Eagles would have won with TO is worthless, pointless and boring.Who's to say he wouldn't have been distracted and fumbled twice etc.... it's all speculation!

 

[Smitty72]

Terrell Owens was a non factor in the first meeting, no reason to assume that he would have saved this game, nor to think he would have been the target in that last pass. 

Hey, if we're gonna get all speculatin and stuff, I'll go way out on a limb and say yeah, TO might have had an impact in this game. Kind of a close finish and they could have used a clutch play to put them a smidgin closer to the goal post.

And I will say..... Take this howevery you want....Had Terrell Owens been playing, the Eagles would have not entered this game runnign the ball more than passing. Instead, they would have once again been throwing the ball constantly, which the Cowboys expected to happen.

Get off the T.O. bandwagon, two of the wheels have already broken off, and you will most likely get seriously injured if you dont jump off now.

Don't you mean the Eagles bandwagon? Oh wait theres no one left on it to bail out now.

 

[shakeybarn]

They might have won.................but he's suspended.

You're missing the point.The Eagles chose to suspend Owens and they chose to handle the situation the way that they did leading up to the suspension. The Cowboys didn't choose for Julius to be injured.

If you make TO the top paid WR in the NFL, the Eagles would be a frontrunner in the NFC...they'll be lucky to make the playoffs now.

Knuckle, they had TO and were 4-4...

 

[SOmojo]

I don't understand all this they would have won with TO. He's suspended..............and the EAgles were the ones that suspended him It wasn't the league, it was the EAgles.

You can't have it both ways. Eagles fans love saying how well they run their organization........that's cool. Make a stand, put TO in his place and all that.

But when you lose a close game, don't say you would have won....you have to sleep in the bed you made.

Let's talk about how Brown didn't make that catch. Let's talk about the possibility of Mike McMahon playing QB next week.

Talking about whether or not the Eagles would have won with TO is worthless, pointless and boring.

Who's to say he wouldn't have been distracted and fumbled twice etc.... it's all speculation!

 

[LHUCKS]

If TO was was playing QB, maybe he wouldn't have thrown a laser to Roy Williams. So yes, they win with TO.

That play wasn't the only play that cost them the game. The Eagles were explosive on offense with TO in the lineup...especially at home.

 

[Raider Nation]

Owens is right now.....

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Terrell Owens was a non factor in the first meeting, no reason to assume that he would have saved this game, nor to think he would have been the target in that last pass. 

Hey, if we're gonna get all speculatin and stuff, I'll go way out on a limb and say yeah, TO might have had an impact in this game. Kind of a close finish and they could have used a clutch play to put them a smidgin closer to the goal post.

And I will say..... Take this however you want....Had Terrell Owens been playing, the Eagles would have not entered this game runnign the ball more than passing. Instead, they would have once again been throwing the ball constantly, which the Cowboys expected to happen.

Get off the T.O. bandwagon, two of the wheels have already broken off, and you will most likely get seriously injured if you dont jump off now.

I'm hardly on the TO bandwagon - I just think they would have won tonight if he were playing. Mostly responding to the "no reason to assume he would have saved this game" comment. Personally, the real dilemma is deciding which is better: The Eagles losing a SB, the Eagles crumbling in the playoffs, or the Eagles completely self-destructing on MNF? It's all good

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Obviously he could've made some plays that helped the team.Or he could've attacked McNabb in the parking lot with a tire iron. Equal chance really.

 

[datonn]

Funny, so with TO in the lineup vs Dallas the first time... how would TO's 5 catches for 50 yards of worked wonders tonight.You guys are using this as an excuse, had McMullen caught it, and a chip shot for Akers... your pieholes woulda been quiet.

Actually, wasn't that Reggie Brown that dropped the pass deep in Cowboys territory at the end of the game (one of 3-4 drops of his on the night)? Also, my guess is that T.O. in the red zone would have resulted in different play-calling that might have ended up with another 4-7 points for the Eagles tonight....but it's all moot at this point. Eagles are below .500, McNabb will/could suffer "Culpepperitis" (confidence shaken = tentative play) if he can even take the field at all in Week 11, and Philly is gonna get to say "What if?" for the next __ years unless they can get back into a meaningful playoff game again in the next year or two (like us Vikings fans do via "Kneel Down Denny" in the NFC Championship Game against the Falcons). :X

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

They might have won.................but he's suspended.

You're missing the point.The Eagles chose to suspend Owens and they chose to handle the situation the way that they did leading up to the suspension. The Cowboys didn't choose for Julius to be injured.

If you make TO the top paid WR in the NFL, the Eagles would be a frontrunner in the NFC...they'll be lucky to make the playoffs now.

So what are you saying LHUCkS.........that they should have just paid the guy even though it was like his 1st year out of a 7 year contract?Or maybe just let him talk about the franchise the way he did.........and talk about D. McNabb who puts his heart out on the line for that city every week! NO way, the Eagles did the right thing for their team and for the NFL. So they lost, big deal. They could have still lost with TO.............in fact, didn't he play in the first game! What was the score??

I'd say that the Eagles played much better as a team tonight..............BECAUSE TO DIDN"T PLAY! Can you prove that the Eagles didn't play better vs. Dallas this go around because TO was out! Because I think they came together as a team without that cancer and outplayed Dallas for the majority of the game.

With that said, Eagles fans always talk about how well they run their organization. That's fine, they do do a good job. However, they have decided on a move to better their franchise long term by suspending Owens. You can't have your cake and eat it too. The Eagles chose to suspend..........so he's out. And truth be told, I thought they played better without him is individual efforts.

 

[GridironMenace]

I'll tell you why the Iggles are done.McNabb can't throw the ball to his receivers. He throws the ball to his RB's and TE's almost exclusively. It is very sad to see the Eagle offense work. It is like watching paint dry, almost to the tune of a HS or college program. GET THE BALL TO A WR McNABB!

 

[delusional]

Gotta love how everyone is ripping on the eagles yet the superbowl winners arent doing so hot

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Eeek, we've been merged.

 

[LHUCKS]

They might have won.................but he's suspended.

You're missing the point.The Eagles chose to suspend Owens and they chose to handle the situation the way that they did leading up to the suspension. The Cowboys didn't choose for Julius to be injured.

If you make TO the top paid WR in the NFL, the Eagles would be a frontrunner in the NFC...they'll be lucky to make the playoffs now.

Knuckle, they had TO and were 4-4...

LOL at you calling me a "knuckle" when you don't have your facts straight...when TO last played for the Eagles, what was their record? TO could have easily been the difference in the last two games and the Eagles would be tied with the Giants for first place in the East and in strong contention for a Wildcard.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Eeek, we've been merged.

Thought I got instabanned for ripping on the Iggles

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Eeek, we've been merged.

Thought I got instabanned for ripping on the Iggles

I thought the same thing............thought maybe Wood came home from a Philly BAR and was going wild!

 

[datonn]

Eeek, we've been merged.

Thought I got instabanned for ripping on the Iggles

Depends which mods are on the case tonight.....and if they're wearing their McNabb jerseys while working on their 5th-6th beer...... JK.

 

[LHUCKS]

Eeek, we've been merged.

first time a thread of mine has been merged in over five years...we had like 20 responses in 5 minutes...the topic was a hypothetical and totally separate from the game chatter that was taking place in here.Who's the mod in charge around here ...OK...Im over it.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Gotta love how everyone is ripping on the eagles yet the superbowl winners arent doing so hot

This is a MNF thread with Dallas and Philly. Why would we rip on the Patriots in here?

 

[Das Boot]

Just a wild guess, but I think the Eagles Mgmt. realized that TO was an on field talent they wouldn't be able to replace.

But apparently they decided that TO's negative attributes outweighed his one positive attribute (namely physical talent).

Would they have faced his negative attributes if they would have met him in the middle on salary demands?

Funny, I thought TO already had a signed contract with the Eagles.So for some reason the Eagles would have been "smart" to give in to TO's demands, rather than face a toxic, petulant, divisive, team criticizing, chemisty destroying malcontent?

And I believe I remember something about TO switching Agents, I think maybe the new guy is known as being the most difficult and contentious Agent in the league. He might have even screwed over another client WR earlier in the year over a salary issue, not sure.

Support TO if you wish, you are in the 9% minority. The good news is, the 9% you are with love to argue and will try to support just about any argument, no matter how untenable.

Boot.

 

[Judge Smails]

How in the #### did this turn into a T.O. thread? I just got home from watching the game, and I'm still buzzed, but excuse me -were the Eagles not up 20-7? Did the defense not let down on the drive with the TD toss to Glenn?. And did Mr. Campbell Soup not make one of the most boneheaded throws in history? This had NOTHING to do with T.O.. Let it go people, let it go.

 

[jeff_eaglz]

If McMahon is the 3rd QB, Koy shouldn't be allowed back in the game to hold correct?

It's the 4th quarter...That only matters in the first 3 quarters...

what are you guys even talking about?

No kidding.What am I missing?

Depth chart.Koy Detmer is the 2, McMahon is the 3. The 3rd QB is the "emergency" QB, only allowed in in the 4th quarter.

 

[LHUCKS]

How in the #### did this turn into a T.O. thread?

Mod mistakenly merged.

 

[Das Boot]

The TO thread got merged with the game thread.It's a good idea to read back more than a few posts when looking at a 10 page thread, but most people just jump right to the end.Boot.

 

[LHUCKS]

Gotta love how everyone is ripping on the eagles yet the superbowl winners arent doing so hot

This is a MNF thread with Dallas and Philly. Why would we rip on the Patriots in here?

Ripping on Boston sports teams is getting old anyhow.

 

[Dynasty]

How in the #### did this turn into a T.O. thread? I just got home from watching the game, and I'm still buzzed, but excuse me -were the Eagles not up 20-7? Did the defense not let down on the drive with the TD toss to Glenn?. And did Mr. Campbell Soup not make one of the most boneheaded throws in history? This had NOTHING to do with T.O.. Let it go people, let it go.

It's rather interesting that the members of this board complain endlessly about the excessive coverage of the T.O. sitiuation. Yet, they talk about it endlessly themselves.

 

[BassNBrew]

Gotta love how everyone is ripping on the eagles yet the superbowl winners arent doing so hot

Leading their division.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

How in the #### did this turn into a T.O. thread? I just got home from watching the game, and I'm still buzzed, but excuse me -were the Eagles not up 20-7? Did the defense not let down on the drive with the TD toss to Glenn?. And did Mr. Campbell Soup not make one of the most boneheaded throws in history? This had NOTHING to do with T.O.. Let it go people, let it go.

Yes, I'm a little disappointed myself actually. Up 20=7, I thought the Eagles were way to aggressive on defense. They were blitzing like crazy. So Dallas calls a draw and gashed them for 24 yards......then they all out blitz and leave Glenn one on one and scores and easy TD.

Now, they have the ball and on 2nd down.........you throw an out pass??????? If you want to throw it, how about a little pass over the MIDDLE to Westbrook or even to LJ Smith.

I thought the play calling on both sides of the ball for Philly was questionable.

 

[hankd]

Hell yea!!

T.O does not drop that ball

eagles get in fg range

they have a great shot of winning

alas..

reggie dropped it.. akers had a kick from nebraska.. boys win!

Maybe...The defender should get a little credit for helping knock it loose though. Brown could've secured it quicker, but Glenn helped...

 

[jeff_eaglz]

Was that kicked tipped in any way? The Commish of my league says he looked at it frame by frame and wouldn't be surprised if a stat correction is given to add a blocked kick. This would turn a W into an L and was wondering if anyone else saw it.

If there was a :graspingatstraws: smiley I'd use it here, but you never know.Best of luck with that.

If I was going to lose, why would I be grasping for this straw?

:GAS:I like it.

 

[BassNBrew]

Eeek, we've been merged.

Thought I got instabanned for ripping on the Iggles

I thought the same thing............thought maybe Wood came home from a Philly BAR and was going wild!

I thought I was banned for the post I was in the process of typing.