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[LHUCKS]

Just a wild guess, but I think the Eagles Mgmt. realized that TO was an on field talent they wouldn't be able to replace.

But apparently they decided that TO's negative attributes outweighed his one positive attribute (namely physical talent).

Would they have faced his negative attributes if they would have met him in the middle on salary demands?

Funny, I thought TO already had a signed contract with the Eagles.So for some reason the Eagles would have been "smart" to give in to TO's demands, rather than face a toxic, petulant, divisive, team criticizing, chemisty destroying malcontent?

Players renegotiate current contracts on a continual basis in the NFL...what makes the Eagles special? Just this past week Neil Rackers renegotiated his.Was TO "Toxic, petulant, divisive..." before or after the Eagles refused to pay his fair market value?

 

[NJ OAK]

Stick a fork in 'em. Until TO comes back (IF..he does) they're done. On the bright side, they might be able to pawn those bridesmaids’ dresses in their closets for some cash..

Wow. Got merged with the MNF game. I guess my original heading was determined to be the most accurate.

 

[biglare66]

 

[datonn]

This had NOTHING to do with T.O.. Let it go people, let it go.

Aah, if the Eagles had won the game, you'd be absolutely correct. However, just you watch all of the discussion over the next several days following the Eagles incredible CHOKE on Monday Night Football tonight....it'll ALL be about T.O. This is now "McNabb's Team", just like Minnesota declared with Culpepper when they jettisoned Moss in the off-season. And, after McNabb's incredible gack, all we'll hear about now for DAYS is how "McNabb's Team" = :X It's deja vu all over again......I was actually pulling for the Eagles tonight, just so that they could "put T.O. in his place" a bit and show him and the rest of the country that he isn't 1/10 as important as he thinks he is. Now, after McNabb made one of the stupidest throws I have seen in a long time (though Bledsoe gave him a run for his money on that INT in the first half), we get to hear about the jack*ss Owens even MORE! Friggin' Eagles. Friggin' McNabb.

 

[LHUCKS]

How in the #### did this turn into a T.O. thread? 

Mod mistakenly merged.

Bump since everybody is now confused.

 

[Billy Bats]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me?? It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

As a Dallas fan.........I'm not thrilled with how they played. It concerns me that they couldn't run the ball more effectively..........I know Philly has been tough vs. run (which is even more impressive what Denver did to them......2 backs over 100 yards, Denver is tough) but I thought Philly as a team played solid.Obviously as a fan, we take a win. As I mentioned earlier, Dallas outplayed Washington and Seattle this season and lost at the end of the 4th quarters, so I guess they're getting one back here. But the ultimate goal in every season is to win the SB..........Dallas will have to improve if they're thinking anything about that.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Eeek, we've been merged.

Thought I got instabanned for ripping on the Iggles

I thought the same thing............thought maybe Wood came home from a Philly BAR and was going wild!

I thought I was banned for the post I was in the process of typing.

AGAIN

 

[LHUCKS]

As a Dallas fan.........I'm not thrilled with how they played. It concerns me that they couldn't run the ball more effectively..........I know Philly has been tough vs. run (which is even more impressive what Denver did to them......2 backs over 100 yards, Denver is tough) but I thought Philly as a team played solid.

Obviously as a fan, we take a win. As I mentioned earlier, Dallas outplayed Washington and Seattle this season and lost at the end of the 4th quarters, so I guess they're getting one back here. But the ultimate goal in every season is to win the SB..........Dallas will have to improve if they're thinking anything about that.

whoever comes out of the NFC is going to get smoked anyhow.Let's talk about how TO is the difference between 6-3 and 4-5.

 

[BassNBrew]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me?? It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Now if we can merge all the Reggie Brown threads . . .

 

[BassNBrew]

As a Dallas fan.........I'm not thrilled with how they played.  It concerns me that they couldn't run the ball more effectively..........I know Philly has been tough vs. run (which is even more impressive what Denver did to them......2 backs over 100 yards, Denver is tough) but I thought Philly as a team played solid.

Obviously as a fan, we take a win.  As I mentioned earlier, Dallas outplayed Washington and Seattle this season and lost at the end of the 4th quarters, so I guess they're getting one back here.  But the ultimate goal in every season is to win the SB..........Dallas will have to improve if they're thinking anything about that.

whoever comes out of the NFC is going to get smoked anyhow.Let's talk about how TO is the difference between 6-3 and 4-5.

FYI...updated the ladder advancement yesterday in SSL.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me?? It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

I wouldn't go as far as you in talking bad about McNabb........but the play call was poor and the decision to throw it was also poor. He's played well in a lot of close games though.Don't forget about the D or the defensive coordinators scheme. I thought they were way to aggresive on that series when T. Glenn scored. Dallas knew what they were doing and called plays directly against a blitzing team and it worked to perfection.

That D. coach got owned on that series because he was predictable.

 

[LHUCKS]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

 

[Billy Bats]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

 

[Das Boot]

Players renegotiate current contracts on a continual basis in the NFL...what makes the Eagles special? Just this past week Neil Rackers renegotiated his.

Was TO "Toxic, petulant, divisive..." before or after the Eagles refused to pay his fair market value?

Cool, you just torpedoed your own pro-TO argument.Boot.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Good point. Madden said he thought he heard some of the Cowboys yelling "Shovel!" right before a play with a shovel pass. Didn't think much of it at the time because I just figured it was Maddens stomach growling for more food to be shovelled in.

 

[jwvdcw]

As a Dallas fan.........I'm not thrilled with how they played. It concerns me that they couldn't run the ball more effectively..........I know Philly has been tough vs. run (which is even more impressive what Denver did to them......2 backs over 100 yards, Denver is tough) but I thought Philly as a team played solid.

Obviously as a fan, we take a win. As I mentioned earlier, Dallas outplayed Washington and Seattle this season and lost at the end of the 4th quarters, so I guess they're getting one back here. But the ultimate goal in every season is to win the SB..........Dallas will have to improve if they're thinking anything about that.

I'm a biased Redskins fan, so take this with a grain of pepper, but.....The Eagles gave the game away by McNabb throwing the ball directly to a Cowboys defender. When the Skins beat the Cowboys, they did so by Santana Moss burning 2 Cowboys defenders on two separate occassions. The defenders were in their right positions and there were no blown assignments or boneheaded plays- Moss simply beat them.

I don't think these situations are similar. One is a player doing something wrong to give the game away. The other is a team just getting beat deep despite having the guy double covered.

 

[LHUCKS]

Players renegotiate current contracts on a continual basis in the NFL...what makes the Eagles special?  Just this past week Neil Rackers renegotiated his.

Was TO "Toxic, petulant, divisive..." before or after the Eagles refused to pay his fair market value?  

Cool, you just torpedoed your own pro-TO argument.Boot.

I did? It was a rhetorical question. My point was that he didn't become unmanagable until after the Eagles refused to pony up his fair market value. Not sure how that "torpedoed" my argument.

 

[BassNBrew]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

 

[Billy Bats]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

He's played well in a lot of close games though.

Like in the final minutes of the Rams playoff game, interception. How about the Carolina game? Yikes. The Tampa Bay NFC Conference game? Yea interception. The Super Bowl? Right. Last week against Washington? Interception. And tonight? Yea he's come up big. :X

 

[biglare66]

ointstosky:

 

[LHUCKS]

As a Dallas fan.........I'm not thrilled with how they played.  It concerns me that they couldn't run the ball more effectively..........I know Philly has been tough vs. run (which is even more impressive what Denver did to them......2 backs over 100 yards, Denver is tough) but I thought Philly as a team played solid.

Obviously as a fan, we take a win.  As I mentioned earlier, Dallas outplayed Washington and Seattle this season and lost at the end of the 4th quarters, so I guess they're getting one back here.  But the ultimate goal in every season is to win the SB..........Dallas will have to improve if they're thinking anything about that.

whoever comes out of the NFC is going to get smoked anyhow.Let's talk about how TO is the difference between 6-3 and 4-5.

FYI...updated the ladder advancement yesterday in SSL.

I noticed but I'm confused by it. Will discuss in the MDRU forum.

 

[BassNBrew]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Good point. Madden said he thought he heard some of the Cowboys yelling "Shovel!" right before a play with a shovel pass. Didn't think much of it at the time because I just figured it was Maddens stomach growling for more food to be shovelled in.

On the replay with sound you could hear Dat yelling "shovel" when the Eagles shifted.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.My final thoughts on that before I have to go to bed, MNF is rough on us East Coast guys is that:

Lhucks, if you're right in saying that Dallas and Philly are insignficant this year, just 2 teams playing, then you indeed proved my point in saying TO shouldn't have played.

If they have not shot at the ultimate prize, then of course they did the right thing in benching him. So they start him and maybe they do win by 3 points.........when they lost in the playoffs or just missed at the end of the season. when you look back at how you handled this situation, what would mean more for the team?

It's a rhetorical question........I don't know the answer to that myself.

Personally, I don't even know if this is possible, but here's what i'd do as the Eagles owner.

I'd give him the 4 game suspension........then I'd trade him to a team who's trying to make a run. Whether it's Atlanta.......or Seattle etc........... for a draft pick.

Don't tell me people won't offer up some stuff.......and tell me what they'll get if they sit him all season and just release him. I'm telling you, if it's possible to do, I'd deal him to the highest bidder.

Shoot, if I were Atlanta I'd give up a 2nd rounder for him. Young coaches like Mora are gullible into thinking they can make things right with a guy like TO.

 

[BassNBrew]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.My final thoughts on that before I have to go to bed, MNF is rough on us East Coast guys is that:

Lhucks, if you're right in saying that Dallas and Philly are insignficant this year, just 2 teams playing, then you indeed proved my point in saying TO shouldn't have played.

If they have not shot at the ultimate prize, then of course they did the right thing in benching him. So they start him and maybe they do win by 3 points.........when they lost in the playoffs or just missed at the end of the season. when you look back at how you handled this situation, what would mean more for the team?

It's a rhetorical question........I don't know the answer to that myself.

Personally, I don't even know if this is possible, but here's what i'd do as the Eagles owner.

I'd give him the 4 game suspension........then I'd trade him to a team who's trying to make a run. Whether it's Atlanta.......or Seattle etc........... for a draft pick.

Don't tell me people won't offer up some stuff.......and tell me what they'll get if they sit him all season and just release him. I'm telling you, if it's possible to do, I'd deal him to the highest bidder.

Shoot, if I were Atlanta I'd give up a 2nd rounder for him. Young coaches like Mora are gullible into thinking they can make things right with a guy like TO.

If it's ATL, I hope they hurry up. Lucas is ready to wear him out.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Good point. Madden said he thought he heard some of the Cowboys yelling "Shovel!" right before a play with a shovel pass. Didn't think much of it at the time because I just figured it was Maddens stomach growling for more food to be shovelled in.

On the replay with sound you could hear Dat yelling "shovel" when the Eagles shifted.

Yes, I saw that. There's a guy who did his homework over the bye week! That was as big a play as any really outside the R. Williams TD.So Roy Williams had 4 Td's this weekend!

 

[LHUCKS]

I'd give him the 4 game suspension........then I'd trade him to a team who's trying to make a run. Whether it's Atlanta.......or Seattle etc........... for a draft pick.

Don't tell me people won't offer up some stuff.......and tell me what they'll get if they sit him all season and just release him. I'm telling you, if it's possible to do, I'd deal him to the highest bidder.

When is the trade deadline?

 

[Billy Bats]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

Dude, you need to watch it again. Reggie Brown wasn't within 10 yards of that ball. Brown was running down the sideline and turned to see if the ball was thrown yet. He was not running the route that McNabb threw to, it was a perfect pass to Roy. The coach himself said it was a hitch that turned into a fly, and McNabb threw the hitch. Are the coach and my eyes lying to me???

 

[LHUCKS]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.

Don't worry SEC fans are still trying to sound out the words...

 

[LHUCKS]

Lhucks, if you're right in saying that Dallas and Philly are insignficant this year, just 2 teams playing, then you indeed proved my point in saying TO shouldn't have played.

If they have not shot at the ultimate prize, then of course they did the right thing in benching him. So they start him and maybe they do win by 3 points.........when they lost in the playoffs or just missed at the end of the season. when you look back at how you handled this situation, what would mean more for the team?

I wasn't entirely serious about the game being insignificant as I believe the Cowboys can make a bowl run this year. But what I really want to do is remind Eagles fans that they'd be 6-3 had they paid the fair market value for their star WR.

 

[SOmojo]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

That is only because the receiver was fearing having a saddle put on his back, I mean a bit in his mouth, crap, I know it has something to do with a horse, a collar, and an excuse.

 

[Das Boot]

Players renegotiate current contracts on a continual basis in the NFL...what makes the Eagles special? Just this past week Neil Rackers renegotiated his.

Was TO "Toxic, petulant, divisive..." before or after the Eagles refused to pay his fair market value?

Cool, you just torpedoed your own pro-TO argument.Boot.

I did? It was a rhetorical question. My point was that he didn't become unmanagable until after the Eagles refused to pony up his fair market value. Not sure how that "torpedoed" my argument.

Smart lawyers don't ask rhetorical questions. Your "rhetorical question" emphatically highlights the fact that TO has been a problem for every team he has ever played for.

Philly took a known gamble in signing TO, and it speaks VOLUMES that Philly was prepared to coddle TO in exchange for his on-field production. Yet even with that approach going in, Philly was only able to keep the lid on the TO fiasco for one year.

You apparent stance is that Philly would have been smart to have caved in to TO's renogiation demands.

What you don't recognize is that Philly's Mgmt debated TO's worth to the team to the nth degree and ultimately decided they would rather pay TO for not playing and put lessor talent on the field this season rather than suffer through TO's team divisive antics.

Apparently you believe Philly made a mistake in deciding that the team was better off without TO, even though in the short run it may cost them some losses.

In the short run, you may be right.

In the long run I suspect the Eagles made the right decision.

Boot.

 

[SouthJersey]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me?? It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

Dude, you need to watch it again. Reggie Brown wasn't within 10 yards of that ball. Brown was running down the sideline and turned to see if the ball was thrown yet. He was not running the route that McNabb threw to, it was a perfect pass to Roy. The coach himself said it was a hitch that turned into a fly, and McNabb threw the hitch. Are the coach and my eyes lying to me???

They said in the press conference (Andy and Donovan's) that the play call was for a hitch play. But since Reggie saw press coverage..and correctly ran a go route. McNabb still threw the hitch play even though there were 3 white jerseys there...with Roy standing there waiting for the ball to be thrown right to him.

 

[BassNBrew]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.

Don't worry SEC fans are still trying to sound out the words...

And the Big10 fans are still working on the math...

 

[LHUCKS]

Apparently you believe Philly made a mistake in deciding that the team was better off without TO, even though in the short run it may cost them some losses.

Nah...I just like to play devil's advocate from time to time to create some spirited discussion. If I'm Andy Reid and the Eagles, I never sign TO without an attitude clause in the first place. Additionally, if I didn't have the foresight for such a clause I would have got rid of him or suspended him on his second act of subordinance...not his 10th.

The Eagles messed this one up a long time ago.

 

[LHUCKS]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.

Don't worry SEC fans are still trying to sound out the words...

And the Big10 fans are still working on the math...

 

[Texican]

I had 3000 on Philly and the under. -3 and 40 1/2

at least you're consistent

 

[BassNBrew]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

Dude, you need to watch it again. Reggie Brown wasn't within 10 yards of that ball. Brown was running down the sideline and turned to see if the ball was thrown yet. He was not running the route that McNabb threw to, it was a perfect pass to Roy. The coach himself said it was a hitch that turned into a fly, and McNabb threw the hitch. Are the coach and my eyes lying to me???

OK...maybe I'm wrong based on the coach's comments. I still think that ball would have gotten to the WR where he was at.Now explain this to me...why was Roy jumping a route when there wasn't a WR anywhere in the area? There was zero reason for Roy to be there. What did he know in advance and how?

 

[Billy Bats]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

Dude, you need to watch it again. Reggie Brown wasn't within 10 yards of that ball. Brown was running down the sideline and turned to see if the ball was thrown yet. He was not running the route that McNabb threw to, it was a perfect pass to Roy. The coach himself said it was a hitch that turned into a fly, and McNabb threw the hitch. Are the coach and my eyes lying to me???

OK...maybe I'm wrong based on the coach's comments. I still think that ball would have gotten to the WR where he was at.Now explain this to me...why was Roy jumping a route when there wasn't a WR anywhere in the area? There was zero reason for Roy to be there. What did he know in advance and how?

Roy said himself that he read McNabb's eyes all the way and he didn't think he would throw it and was shocked when he did. Other than that, I have no idea other than Roy is good, and McNabb stinks.And BnB, my replies weren't meant to prove you wrong, so I hope you didn't take offense. I'm just trying to ram home the point that McNabb didn't read the defense and didn't know what route his WR was running after being in the league and offense for so long. That was just plain pathetic and has me all fired up since I'm an Eagles fan and they just kissed their season goodbye.

 

[Das Boot]

Nah...I just like to play devil's advocate from time to time to create some spirited discussion.

Well that's certainly one excuse for bailing out of a losing argument. That's ok, I was done anyway.

Arguing with TO supporters has no upside.

Boot.

 

[LHUCKS]

Nah...I just like to play devil's advocate from time to time to create some spirited discussion. 

Well that's certainly one excuse for bailing out of a losing argument.

Try the advice forum...they're much more likely to bite.

 

[BassNBrew]

7 years in this offense and McNabb doesn't know what route his WR is running. Are you ####### kidding me??  It doesn't help that Mr. Know-it-all coach calls such a stupid STUPID play at that point in the game. The rookie, Reggie Brown, knew what route to run against the D that he seen, yet the 7 year veteran has no idea what's going on and STILL THROWS it directly to a defender. Unbelievable. I will never again defend McNabb. He sucks. A ####### deer in the headlights when it comes crunch time.

If you watch the replay, the WR had turned and the ball was on a direct line for him. Roy just jumped the route and made a great play. I'm wondering if the Cowboys had figured out the Eagles play calls tonite???

Huh? Did you watch the same game?? Reggie Brown was no where near that ball. McNabb threw a hitch, Reggie Brown ran a fly, which he was supposed to do against the D that they showed. Reid said it himself in his postgame talk. The WR ran the correct route, McNabb threw the wrong one.

Brown didn't run a fly. He had stopped and turned around on the sideline. The reply showed the ball was on a path directly to him. Roy grabbed it at 7-8 feet and it didn't look like it had started it's descent. I speculate that it would have arrived to the WR at his knees exactly where he was standing.

Dude, you need to watch it again. Reggie Brown wasn't within 10 yards of that ball. Brown was running down the sideline and turned to see if the ball was thrown yet. He was not running the route that McNabb threw to, it was a perfect pass to Roy. The coach himself said it was a hitch that turned into a fly, and McNabb threw the hitch. Are the coach and my eyes lying to me???

OK...maybe I'm wrong based on the coach's comments. I still think that ball would have gotten to the WR where he was at.Now explain this to me...why was Roy jumping a route when there wasn't a WR anywhere in the area? There was zero reason for Roy to be there. What did he know in advance and how?

Roy said himself that he read McNabb's eyes all the way and he didn't think he would throw it and was shocked when he did. Other than that, I have no idea other than Roy is good, and McNabb stinks.And BnB, my replies weren't meant to prove you wrong, so I hope you didn't take offense. I'm just trying to ram home the point that McNabb didn't read the defense and didn't know what route his WR was running after being in the league and offense for so long. That was just plain pathetic and has me all fired up since I'm an Eagles fan and they just kissed their season goodbye.

No offense taken, I just saw some things on tape that lead me to the wrong conclusion. Being a Panther's fan, I should have a better understanding of the art of the bad pass.

 

[Abashail]

I was up by 2. The game was almost over. My opponent had Dallas' defense.

 

[msommer]

I too lost a game o that INT/TD - that alone was nine points - my opponent won by two

 

[Captain Quinoa]

I was up by 2. The game was almost over. My opponent had Dallas' defense.

GB being on the right end of that exact situation.

And GB YOU Roy Williams!!!!!!!!!

 

[culdeus]

I haven't woken up drunk since college.I guess I have to take the ####### bus in to work.God bless roy williams.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Seriously, talking about this game and who won or lost is like talking about the LSU/Alabama game...both are insignificant.

Back to taunting the Iggles fans with TO discussion please

2 digs in with one post.......that's pretty good. You pissed off the SEC crowd and the fans of the Cowboys/Eagles, that's an experienced poster.

Don't worry SEC fans are still trying to sound out the words...

And the Big10 fans are still working on the math...

Maybe, but tell me a better game in any given year than Michigan vs. Ohio St.You're gonna get another dandy next week in The Big House!

 

[simmonjm]

Apparently you believe Philly made a mistake in deciding that the team was better off without TO, even though in the short run it may cost them some losses.

Nah...I just like to play devil's advocate from time to time to create some spirited discussion. If I'm Andy Reid and the Eagles, I never sign TO without an attitude clause in the first place. Additionally, if I didn't have the foresight for such a clause I would have got rid of him or suspended him on his second act of subordinance...not his 10th.

The Eagles messed this one up a long time ago.

Phillie's biggest mistake was not addressing T.O.'s contract at the beginning of this season. As an organization they are cocky when it comes to negotiating with players. T.O wanted a guaranteed contract because the original contract HE signed was backloaded. Yes it was T.O.'s fault for siging the contract but at the same time the Eagles need to realize that if you have arguably the best reciever in the NFL you need to pay him.

 

[Routilla]

OK...maybe I'm wrong based on the coach's comments. I still think that ball would have gotten to the WR where he was at.

Now explain this to me...why was Roy jumping a route when there wasn't a WR anywhere in the area? There was zero reason for Roy to be there. What did he know in advance and how?

PHI had run that slant several times for 1st downs throughout the game. I think Roy was simply playing that slant and got lucky.