**Not-so-offical Green Bay Packers Off-season Thread** (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

Bills cut Dockery...wonder how much $$$$ he will command as he was a big $$$ free agent in 2007.

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[Kitrick Taylor]

I dont know whether Moreno is an "it" guy but I would ecstatic if the Packers drafted someone at #9 who could make an immediate impact on a consistent basis on either side of the ball. I would that any fan would be happy with that. Grant and Jackson are just serviceable backs but if there was a game changer in the backfield, it would really balance the offense.I would not want Sanchez at #9, that is trouble waiting to happen and I would hope the Packers realize that.

I am starting to buy more and more into the Packers needing to draft another playmaker on offense in the first couple of rounds. Not so sure that Moreno is it, or worthy of the #9 overall selection. I am starting thinking about LeSean McCoy in late RD1 in a trade up, or he may even make it to the Packers pick at #40 overall. He's certainly more dynamic than any of the RBs the Packers currently have, and would instantly make a splash on offense, even if he's just a part time player. I know there's a lot of 3-4 OLBs projected to go around pick 40, and the Packers could easily go that way, it just seems to me that Jennings and Rodgers would both benefit greatly from another threat on offense.

 

[Kleck]

Packers RFA Tenders:

Atari Bigby - $1.545M, 2nd Round Pick

Ruvell Martin - $1.01M, no pick

Jarrett Bush - $1.01M, no pick

John Kuhn - $1.01M, no pick

Jason Hunter - $1.01M, no pick

 

[sho nuff]

Granted, he was not projected well into the 3-4...but can anyone really say they wish Ted would have offered something like that for Haynesworth?

 

[jurrassic]

Granted, he was not projected well into the 3-4...but can anyone really say they wish Ted would have offered something like that for Haynesworth?

I won't say it. The Packers have alot to worry about going into the 2010 season. The possibility of no salary cap, the free agents on their own roster, etc. After this season the Packers will Jennings, Collins, Colledge, Spitz, Kampann, Pickett, Bigby, etc. to either extend or replace. They need to spend their money on that.

 

[sho nuff]

Granted, he was not projected well into the 3-4...but can anyone really say they wish Ted would have offered something like that for Haynesworth?

I won't say it. The Packers have alot to worry about going into the 2010 season. The possibility of no salary cap, the free agents on their own roster, etc. After this season the Packers will Jennings, Collins, Colledge, Spitz, Kampann, Pickett, Bigby, etc. to either extend or replace. They need to spend their money on that.

Agreed on Jennings, Collins, Kampman, Bigby for sure.Pickett? Depends on the draft to me if they get Raji or someone who may project to a solid NT. Not sure Pickett is the guy just yet. Stop gap maybe and decent for later depth. But He is a wait and see to me.Right now, priority #1 should be Jennings above any free agents.Spitz...again, a wait and see and extend him during the season if he can beat Wells out to start at center (which is what it looks like they are going to try to do with him).Colledge...another depends to me. Simply as a guard? I don't know. Trust him to play LT? I don't. RT? Maybe.

 

[jurrassic]

Granted, he was not projected well into the 3-4...but can anyone really say they wish Ted would have offered something like that for Haynesworth?

I won't say it. The Packers have alot to worry about going into the 2010 season. The possibility of no salary cap, the free agents on their own roster, etc. After this season the Packers will Jennings, Collins, Colledge, Spitz, Kampann, Pickett, Bigby, etc. to either extend or replace. They need to spend their money on that.

Agreed on Jennings, Collins, Kampman, Bigby for sure.Pickett? Depends on the draft to me if they get Raji or someone who may project to a solid NT. Not sure Pickett is the guy just yet. Stop gap maybe and decent for later depth. But He is a wait and see to me.Right now, priority #1 should be Jennings above any free agents.Spitz...again, a wait and see and extend him during the season if he can beat Wells out to start at center (which is what it looks like they are going to try to do with him).Colledge...another depends to me. Simply as a guard? I don't know. Trust him to play LT? I don't. RT? Maybe.

I think the definites are Jennings and Collins. With the shift to the new defense who knows what the plans will be for Kampman, Bigby, and Pickett. The o-line is really the same thing. They have a bunch of young guys who haven't really stepped up. Either way they will need to re-sign them or sign someone to replace them.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This is from the National Football Post.....Originally from Scout.com

Canty a Possibility in Green BayAlthough the Washington Redskins were rumored to have the lead in the Chris Canty sweepstakes, Scout.com is reporting that there’s a new player — the Green Bay Packers. Now that the Packers have switched to the 3-4 defensive front under new coordinator Dom Capers, Canty would fill a hole and bring experience in the 3-4 from Dallas. This would be a huge move for the Pack.

 

[Phurfur]

This is from the National Football Post.....Originally from Scout.com

Canty a Possibility in Green Bay

Although the Washington Redskins were rumored to have the lead in the Chris Canty sweepstakes, Scout.com is reporting that there’s a new player — the Green Bay Packers. Now that the Packers have switched to the 3-4 defensive front under new coordinator Dom Capers, Canty would fill a hole and bring experience in the 3-4 from Dallas. This would be a huge move for the Pack.

Huge move? I don't think so! I would rate this an average signing, like BRANDON CHILLAR last year.

 

[Aaronstory]

Granted, he was not projected well into the 3-4...but can anyone really say they wish Ted would have offered something like that for Haynesworth?

I won't say it. The Packers have alot to worry about going into the 2010 season. The possibility of no salary cap, the free agents on their own roster, etc. After this season the Packers will Jennings, Collins, Colledge, Spitz, Kampann, Pickett, Bigby, etc. to either extend or replace. They need to spend their money on that.

Agreed on Jennings, Collins, Kampman, Bigby for sure.Pickett? Depends on the draft to me if they get Raji or someone who may project to a solid NT. Not sure Pickett is the guy just yet. Stop gap maybe and decent for later depth. But He is a wait and see to me.Right now, priority #1 should be Jennings above any free agents.Spitz...again, a wait and see and extend him during the season if he can beat Wells out to start at center (which is what it looks like they are going to try to do with him).Colledge...another depends to me. Simply as a guard? I don't know. Trust him to play LT? I don't. RT? Maybe.

I think the definites are Jennings and Collins.

I'm sorry, I keep seeing this and I just don't get it. Yes, of course on Jennings. But Collins? He has to be the most overrated player on the Packers' roster. Yes, he made the Pro Bowl - for taking a bunch of picks back to the house early in the season. He can't tackle, takes terrible angles and blows coverage assignments with startling regularity. The secondary, which he has been in charge of in regards to pre-snap calls, has been plagued with communication breakdowns and now the Packers are switching to a scheme where he is expected to quarterback the entire defense? Let's let him earn that 'definite' status.

 

[Aaronstory]

This is from the National Football Post.....Originally from Scout.com

Canty a Possibility in Green Bay

Although the Washington Redskins were rumored to have the lead in the Chris Canty sweepstakes, Scout.com is reporting that there’s a new player — the Green Bay Packers. Now that the Packers have switched to the 3-4 defensive front under new coordinator Dom Capers, Canty would fill a hole and bring experience in the 3-4 from Dallas. This would be a huge move for the Pack.

Huge move? I don't think so! I would rate this an average signing, like BRANDON CHILLAR last year.

Canty would be a much, much bigger deal than Chillar was. Chillar was a situational player. Canty would be a full-time starter and solidify the weakest spot in the new 3-4 lineup.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

This is from the National Football Post.....Originally from Scout.com

Canty a Possibility in Green Bay

Although the Washington Redskins were rumored to have the lead in the Chris Canty sweepstakes, Scout.com is reporting that there’s a new player — the Green Bay Packers. Now that the Packers have switched to the 3-4 defensive front under new coordinator Dom Capers, Canty would fill a hole and bring experience in the 3-4 from Dallas. This would be a huge move for the Pack.

Huge move? I don't think so! I would rate this an average signing, like BRANDON CHILLAR last year.

Canty would be a much, much bigger deal than Chillar was. Chillar was a situational player. Canty would be a full-time starter and solidify the weakest spot in the new 3-4 lineup.

 

[ang12]

Packers pursuing Dallas DE CantyThe Green Bay Packers are trying to bring in defensive end Chris Canty of the Dallas Cowboys for a free-agent visit but are competing for him with at least a couple of other teams on the opening day of free agency.Canty, who is attractive to the Packers as an excellent fit at defensive end for their new 3-4 defense, is one of the more coveted players available in free agency this offseason. He’s scheduled to visit the New York Giants on Saturday, and Seattle Seahawks on Sunday and Monday, said his agent, Brad Blank, this afternoon.The Packers, San Francisco and Tennessee also want to bring in Canty for a visit, but Blank said Canty probably will take only one or maybe two other visits after this weekend. He’ll determine where else Canty will go after getting firm contract parameters and determing which of those teams are most interested. There's also a chance Canty will sign while in New York or San Francisco.The Packers contacted Blank at the start of free agency late Thursday night to express their interest, though they also warned they generally don’t move early in free agency. However, their interest has escalated, and they called again today to set up a visit for Canty early next week.Blank said he gave the Packers a general idea of the contract Canty appears in line for and the team’s co-director of football operations, Reggie McKenzie, said the Packers still want him to visit as soon as possible after Seattle. The Packers in recent years have not pursued a free agent who has drawn this level of interest at the start of free agency, so if they bring Canty in they’ll be breaking new ground under General Manager Ted Thompson.“It’s a perfect situation for him because of the 3-4,” Blank said of the Packers. “These other teams are 4-3.”Canty appeared headed for the Washington Redskins today, but after the sides made extensive progress in negotiations Thursday night at the start of free agency, the Redskins early this morning canceled Canty’s trip to Washington because they’d signed defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to a blockbuster deal. Canty’s near-deal with the Redskins included guaranteed money of about $20 million. That suggests he could be in a for a deal that averages $7 million to $8 million and has guarantees in the $15 million to $20 million range.Canty, 26, was a fourth-round draft pick by Dallas in 2005. At 6-7 and 304, he’s been a defensive end in the Cowboys’ 3-4 scheme. He had three sacks last season and nine sacks for his four-year career.-- Pete Dougherty, pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com

 

[sho nuff]

I hate this waiting for a visist stuff though...just gives them time to sign elsewhere.

At least they are trying though.

 

[Kleck]

Canty would be a much, much bigger deal than Chillar was. Chillar was a situational player. Canty would be a full-time starter and solidify the weakest spot in the new 3-4 lineup.

I also agree. Canty was one of the top FAs I was hoping the Packers would pursue, and I think he'd be a very nice addition.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Canty would be a much, much bigger deal than Chillar was. Chillar was a situational player. Canty would be a full-time starter and solidify the weakest spot in the new 3-4 lineup.

:(

I also agree. Canty was one of the top FAs I was hoping the Packers would pursue, and I think he'd be a very nice addition.

Agree. Immediate upgrade over anyone else they could aquire.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

This is from the National Football Post.....Originally from Scout.com

Canty a Possibility in Green Bay

Although the Washington Redskins were rumored to have the lead in the Chris Canty sweepstakes, Scout.com is reporting that there’s a new player — the Green Bay Packers. Now that the Packers have switched to the 3-4 defensive front under new coordinator Dom Capers, Canty would fill a hole and bring experience in the 3-4 from Dallas. This would be a huge move for the Pack.

Huge move? I don't think so! I would rate this an average signing, like BRANDON CHILLAR last year.

Wrong

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Wasn't there one article that said Canty would prefer to play in a 4-3? I'll try to find it.edit: ah, jsonline blog -

All things being equal, Canty would prefer to play defensive end in a 4-3 on the first two downs and then move inside on pass-rushing downs, ala Cullen Jenkins. The Packers just converted to a 3-4.

 

[griz145389]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

 

[The Kerminator]

From today's MJS Packer Blog

While the Packers want Cowboys DE Chris Canty to visit, Mac Engel of the Fort Worth Star Telegram says that after Canty makes his weekend trips to the the Giants and Seahawks, all negotiations will be over the phone, likely starting Monday. Brad Blank, Canty's agent, hopes to have a deal in place by early next week.

"We will always make sure to give the Cowboys the right to try to match or exceed the offer," Blank said. "Chris likes it there, [and] we hope it can work out, but I just don’t see how it can with the Cowboys’ [salary] cap situation."

The Cowboys are a little more than $9 million under the salary cap, and owner Jerry Jones said the team would like to keep free agents Kevin Burnett, Keith Davis and Canty.

After talking to a few more people last night and today, I think the Packers are still in this. The Giants, who already have three defensive ends and would move Canty to DT, just locked up LB Michael Boley for big money, so they might not have more to go around. The key team in the Canty sweepstakes are the Seattle Seahawks, where he will visit next. If he gets out of Seattle without a contract, the Packers will be very much in it. Of course, Ted Thompson is going to name his price and not budge much, but I wouldn't consider the Packers a long shot.

 

[sho nuff]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

What other guys would you go after?Again, he at least went after a guy in the first days of FA...which is hardly business as usual.Is there any real impact guys that are flying off the shelves defensively?There are some decent Olinemen...but they are not really going quickly right now.Look, Id like them to add some people...and Canty is high on the list. They are going after him for sure. His agent supposedly told GB what kind of contracts he was looking for and they were still interested. Making me think TT will not just be lowballing anyone.

 

[griz145389]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

What other guys would you go after?Again, he at least went after a guy in the first days of FA...which is hardly business as usual.Is there any real impact guys that are flying off the shelves defensively?There are some decent Olinemen...but they are not really going quickly right now.

I am glad Canty is at least being brought up. I would have liked to have seen some movement for an Olineman or 2, maybe a lb. I am not asking for Thompson to go out and sign 5 guys the first day of free agency. I would just have liked to have seen a bit more action than what has been shown so far.Also I am not upset with the way the Canty situation is going. It appears that they are at least trying for him, and if he signs elsewhere, I won't be upset with the Pack for not getting him. (well, maybe a little)

 

[sho nuff]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

What other guys would you go after?Again, he at least went after a guy in the first days of FA...which is hardly business as usual.Is there any real impact guys that are flying off the shelves defensively?There are some decent Olinemen...but they are not really going quickly right now.

I am glad Canty is at least being brought up. I would have liked to have seen some movement for an Olineman or 2, maybe a lb. I am not asking for Thompson to go out and sign 5 guys the first day of free agency. I would just have liked to have seen a bit more action than what has been shown so far.Also I am not upset with the way the Canty situation is going. It appears that they are at least trying for him, and if he signs elsewhere, I won't be upset with the Pack for not getting him. (well, maybe a little)

Reading a few of the articles this past week, it seems as if TT will be a bit more active.And I have not seen many go off the board that are that intriguing for GB yet other than Boley.Im upset that we are just letting him off to these visits...as far as we know without having any kind of offer out there. We are basically just hoping he leaves these places without a contract.

 

[griz145389]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

What other guys would you go after?Again, he at least went after a guy in the first days of FA...which is hardly business as usual.Is there any real impact guys that are flying off the shelves defensively?There are some decent Olinemen...but they are not really going quickly right now.

I am glad Canty is at least being brought up. I would have liked to have seen some movement for an Olineman or 2, maybe a lb. I am not asking for Thompson to go out and sign 5 guys the first day of free agency. I would just have liked to have seen a bit more action than what has been shown so far.Also I am not upset with the way the Canty situation is going. It appears that they are at least trying for him, and if he signs elsewhere, I won't be upset with the Pack for not getting him. (well, maybe a little)

Reading a few of the articles this past week, it seems as if TT will be a bit more active.And I have not seen many go off the board that are that intriguing for GB yet other than Boley.Im upset that we are just letting him off to these visits...as far as we know without having any kind of offer out there. We are basically just hoping he leaves these places without a contract.

I thought I had seen that The Paclers wanted him to visit, but the agent said they wanted to visit NY and Seattle first and then they would see. I can't really fault the Pack if that is what happened.

 

[sho nuff]

So Canty is probably a long shot at this point, and I have yet to hear any to hear other names being pursued. Looks to be business as usual for Thompson.

What other guys would you go after?Again, he at least went after a guy in the first days of FA...which is hardly business as usual.Is there any real impact guys that are flying off the shelves defensively?There are some decent Olinemen...but they are not really going quickly right now.

I am glad Canty is at least being brought up. I would have liked to have seen some movement for an Olineman or 2, maybe a lb. I am not asking for Thompson to go out and sign 5 guys the first day of free agency. I would just have liked to have seen a bit more action than what has been shown so far.Also I am not upset with the way the Canty situation is going. It appears that they are at least trying for him, and if he signs elsewhere, I won't be upset with the Pack for not getting him. (well, maybe a little)

Reading a few of the articles this past week, it seems as if TT will be a bit more active.And I have not seen many go off the board that are that intriguing for GB yet other than Boley.Im upset that we are just letting him off to these visits...as far as we know without having any kind of offer out there. We are basically just hoping he leaves these places without a contract.

I thought I had seen that The Paclers wanted him to visit, but the agent said they wanted to visit NY and Seattle first and then they would see. I can't really fault the Pack if that is what happened.

Yeah...but, seems some of these deals have been getting done prior to these visits. Would be nice to be one of those teams or at least get the first visits.

 

[Balco]

Conflicting news on Canty from his agent and the Packers:

From Packers Blog:

"Just got off the phone with Brad Blank, Canty's agent, two minutes ago. He has a contract proposal from the Giants and has sent them a counter proposal.

Contrary to the nfpost.com's report that the Packers were also making a hard push for Canty, Blank said nothing close to a contract offer had come from the Packers. In fact, Blank had trouble getting the Packers on the phone this morning and had not yet heard from Ted Thompson.

"I don't feel -- at this moment and this could change -- any form of representation from the Packers that I'm going to get a deal from them," Blank said. "And you know the old saying: one in the hand is worth two in the bush."

Just as Blank said those words, Packers negotiator Russ Ball beeped in and the two are currently talking.

I'll let you know what happens."

 

[Balco]

Looking at some of these boneheaded free agent contracts being handed out, I am not sure if there is really any player I wish the Packers got at the prices they signed for.

I think Brandon Moore of the Jets was one guy that The Pack tried to sign when he was cut. He resigned with the Jets for a reasonable deal. Other than that, I can't really say I am disspaointed that TT didn't throw ridiculous $$$ at these free agents. There are still many 3-4 role players out there and I think TT is going to be active in scooping them up. No complaints with that.

 

[Aaronstory]

Looking at some of these boneheaded free agent contracts being handed out, I am not sure if there is really any player I wish the Packers got at the prices they signed for. I can't really say I am disspaointed that TT didn't throw ridiculous $ at these free agents. There are still many 3-4 role players out there and I think TT is going to be active in scooping them up. No complaints with that.

Here's a man who gets it...

 

[The Kerminator]

Cole gone; No push for Canty - yet

By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

Mar. 1, 2009 1:30 p.m.

Green Bay -- The next domino to fall in the Packers' pursuit of Cowboys defensive end Chris Canty has fallen: now-former Packers DT Colin Cole has signed with the Seahawks, according to NFL.com.

That means Seattle likely doesn't have much interest in Canty, who is still in New York and meeting with the Giant's coaches. Losing Cole, who the Packers wanted to re-sign, is a blow to the Packers because it hurts their line depth as they transition to the 3-4.

UPDATE: The Cole signing has been confirmed. Cole's contract is five years, $21 million with $5 million guaranteed according to NFL.com.

From JS Online

 

[ScottyFargo]

CANTY SIGNS WITH THE GIANTSPosted by Mike Florio: Sunday, March 1, 2009 5:18 PM Former Cowboys defensive end Chris Canty is staying in the division.But not with the Redskins, who cut the cord immediately after dragging into the boat a $100 million whale.Instead, Canty is a member of the New York Giants, according to Adam Schefter of NFL Network.Canty has agreed to a six-year, $42 million deal, with $17.25 million in guaranteed money.He presumably will play defensive tackle in New York, given the presence of defensive ends Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, and Osi Umenyiora. Not long ago, coach Tom Coughlin said that Kiwanuka will remain at defensive end in 2009 -- he shifted from linebacker after Umenyiora landed on injured reserve in August.

Who else are they thinking about?

 

[Mario Kart]

Cole gone; No push for Canty - yet

By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

Mar. 1, 2009 1:30 p.m.

Green Bay -- The next domino to fall in the Packers' pursuit of Cowboys defensive end Chris Canty has fallen: now-former Packers DT Colin Cole has signed with the Seahawks, according to NFL.com.

That means Seattle likely doesn't have much interest in Canty, who is still in New York and meeting with the Giant's coaches. Losing Cole, who the Packers wanted to re-sign, is a blow to the Packers because it hurts their line depth as they transition to the 3-4.

UPDATE: The Cole signing has been confirmed. Cole's contract is five years, $21 million with $5 million guaranteed according to NFL.com.

From JS Online

CANTY SIGNS WITH THE GIANTS

Posted by Mike Florio: Sunday, March 1, 2009 5:18 PM

Former Cowboys defensive end Chris Canty is staying in the division.

But not with the Redskins, who cut the cord immediately after dragging into the boat a $100 million whale.

Instead, Canty is a member of the New York Giants, according to Adam Schefter of NFL Network.

Canty has agreed to a six-year, $42 million deal, with $17.25 million in guaranteed money.

He presumably will play defensive tackle in New York, given the presence of defensive ends Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, and Osi Umenyiora. Not long ago, coach Tom Coughlin said that Kiwanuka will remain at defensive end in 2009 -- he shifted from linebacker after Umenyiora landed on injured reserve in August.

Who else are they thinking about?

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

 

[bcr8f]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

 

[Mario Kart]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

 

[Balco]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

I am shocked at that Canty contract. He is a solid 3-4 player, not an impact guy. I like Weaver. Play has obviously slipped, but he can certainly fill a part time role at DE. I would love it if the Pack signs two from that list. Olshansky and Weaver would be solid.Ends in the 3-4 need to simply hold the point. They are not pass rushers in the system. If you are going to spend $$$$$$ on a 3-4 defender, it needs to be an OLB, as they are the keys to the defense. Guys like Demarcus Ware, Shawn Merriman, James Harrison, Lamar Woodley . . . etc. Didn;t see a guy like that in free agency, although Michael Boley was very intriguing.

 

[Balco]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

How does signing veteran players constitute rebuilding?

 

[Mario Kart]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

How does signing veteran players constitute rebuilding?

Has he signed any of these yet? I doubt any of them are signed so on the other hand, get ready for the draft.

 

[Balco]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

How does signing veteran players constitute rebuilding?

Has he signed any of these yet? I doubt any of them are signed so on the other hand, get ready for the draft.

I was responding to your statement : "Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding."I apologize if I misconstrued the meaning. I read it as if Thompson signs some veterans, you believe it's "constant rebuilding" :(

 

[uwgb96]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

Thompson has, and always will, look for value rather than throw funny money around at the "top" FA talent. I'd just as soon he not overpay to bring guys in, but rather, pay/extend deals to keep a core together, i.e. Jennings, etc. In free agency, find cost effective guys that fit the scheme.

 

[Mario Kart]

Takes money to make money. If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done. I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes. What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

 

[sho nuff]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

I think Smith already signed.Olshansky there are some character/lazy issues supposedly with him.As for fitting with this supposed strategy? He went after Canty...the guy never left NY. While Im pissed we were not a bit more agressive with him early on to get him into town...Im also happy we did not just offer a guy a deal before ever sitting down with him.I hope we move on to the Oline in signings now with a few of these role guys to help out if Jenkins cannot just come back totally after the injury, plus with Jolly's legal issues. I see the D as more of a draft for help spot than Oline would be as far as this year.

 

[sho nuff]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

I am shocked at that Canty contract. He is a solid 3-4 player, not an impact guy. I like Weaver. Play has obviously slipped, but he can certainly fill a part time role at DE. I would love it if the Pack signs two from that list. Olshansky and Weaver would be solid.Ends in the 3-4 need to simply hold the point. They are not pass rushers in the system. If you are going to spend $$$$$$ on a 3-4 defender, it needs to be an OLB, as they are the keys to the defense. Guys like Demarcus Ware, Shawn Merriman, James Harrison, Lamar Woodley . . . etc. Didn;t see a guy like that in free agency, although Michael Boley was very intriguing.

Yup, OLB and NT are where to spend money in a 3-4. But I still wanted Canty as we have some question marks at DE with Jollys legal issues, Jenkins and Harrel's health.

 

[KingAlfred]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

I think Smith already signed.Olshansky there are some character/lazy issues supposedly with him.As for fitting with this supposed strategy? He went after Canty...the guy never left NY. While Im pissed we were not a bit more agressive with him early on to get him into town...Im also happy we did not just offer a guy a deal before ever sitting down with him.I hope we move on to the Oline in signings now with a few of these role guys to help out if Jenkins cannot just come back totally after the injury, plus with Jolly's legal issues. I see the D as more of a draft for help spot than Oline would be as far as this year.

I do not think that C. Canty was ever serious about GB any way. I mean come on...what did C Canty's agent say ?...something to the affect 'that he was trying to get hold of the GB guys last night but could not reach them'. Please....At any rate...tough day for the pack....C. Cole was not great...but he was serviceable at least. Now it's off to the bargain bin to see what they can find....not good.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

I think Smith already signed.Olshansky there are some character/lazy issues supposedly with him.As for fitting with this supposed strategy? He went after Canty...the guy never left NY. While Im pissed we were not a bit more agressive with him early on to get him into town...Im also happy we did not just offer a guy a deal before ever sitting down with him.I hope we move on to the Oline in signings now with a few of these role guys to help out if Jenkins cannot just come back totally after the injury, plus with Jolly's legal issues. I see the D as more of a draft for help spot than Oline would be as far as this year.

I do not think that C. Canty was ever serious about GB any way. I mean come on...what did C Canty's agent say ?...something to the affect 'that he was trying to get hold of the GB guys last night but could not reach them'. Please....At any rate...tough day for the pack....C. Cole was not great...but he was serviceable at least. Now it's off to the bargain bin to see what they can find....not good.

Good point I just read in the Canty thread. If Canty was really all that in the 3-4 do you really think the Cowboys would let him go? Especially to the Giants??? The Cowboys decided he wasn't going to be worth it, and spent less time trying to sign Canty than the Packers did trying to sign Cole.

 

[griz145389]

No way Thompson would have dished out that kind of money to either of them.Get ready for the draft.

What about DE 4 Antonio Smith UFA 5 6-4/280 Oklahoma State Arizona DE 6 Bertrand Berry UFA 11 6-3/270 Notre Dame Arizona DE 7 Chauncey Davis UFA 4 6-2/277 Florida State Atlanta DE 8 Paul Spicer UFA 9 6-4/296 Saginaw Valley State Jacksonville DE 9 Anthony Weaver UFA 7 6-3/280 Notre Dame Houston DE 10 Igor Olshansky UFA 5 6-6/305 Oregon San Diego

Each of those guys fit with Thompson's strategy... constant rebuilding.

I think Smith already signed.Olshansky there are some character/lazy issues supposedly with him.As for fitting with this supposed strategy? He went after Canty...the guy never left NY. While Im pissed we were not a bit more agressive with him early on to get him into town...Im also happy we did not just offer a guy a deal before ever sitting down with him.I hope we move on to the Oline in signings now with a few of these role guys to help out if Jenkins cannot just come back totally after the injury, plus with Jolly's legal issues. I see the D as more of a draft for help spot than Oline would be as far as this year.

I do not think that C. Canty was ever serious about GB any way. I mean come on...what did C Canty's agent say ?...something to the affect 'that he was trying to get hold of the GB guys last night but could not reach them'. Please....At any rate...tough day for the pack....C. Cole was not great...but he was serviceable at least. Now it's off to the bargain bin to see what they can find....not good.

Good point I just read in the Canty thread. If Canty was really all that in the 3-4 do you really think the Cowboys would let him go? Especially to the Giants??? The Cowboys decided he wasn't going to be worth it, and spent less time trying to sign Canty than the Packers did trying to sign Cole.

The Cowboys didn't have the money to resign him

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Takes money to make money.If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done.I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes.What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

some real nuggets of football wisdom hereLike clockwork, Packer fans everywhere crap their pants when the team doesn't sign anyone during the "dumb money" first week of free agency. Most had never heard the name Chris Canty four days ago, and suddenly the fture of the franchise depends on this guy.

 

[griz145389]

Takes money to make money.If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done.I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes.What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

some real nuggets of football wisdom hereLike clockwork, Packer fans everywhere crap their pants when the team doesn't sign anyone during the "dumb money" first week of free agency. Most had never heard the name Chris Canty four days ago, and suddenly the fture of the franchise depends on this guy.

I had been hoping for Chris Canty since the move to a 3-4 was announced. Is it a huge deal that we did not get that one guy? No, not really. And I am holding off judging free agency until we have a bit more time to see what we can sign. However if we go through another year with Ted signing only 1 or 2 marginal players and a bunch of long shots, I will not be happy. A lot of the Thompson supporters had been saying they thought Ted would be making some big moves this year in free agency. So far that has not been the case.

 

[sho nuff]

Takes money to make money.If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done.I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes.What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

some real nuggets of football wisdom hereLike clockwork, Packer fans everywhere crap their pants when the team doesn't sign anyone during the "dumb money" first week of free agency. Most had never heard the name Chris Canty four days ago, and suddenly the fture of the franchise depends on this guy.

I had been hoping for Chris Canty since the move to a 3-4 was announced. Is it a huge deal that we did not get that one guy? No, not really. And I am holding off judging free agency until we have a bit more time to see what we can sign. However if we go through another year with Ted signing only 1 or 2 marginal players and a bunch of long shots, I will not be happy. A lot of the Thompson supporters had been saying they thought Ted would be making some big moves this year in free agency. So far that has not been the case.

I don't recall anyone saying he would make "big" moves.But more than he has recently.I think Canty would have been a pretty big move for them.I don't see many more that could even be considered big moves right now outside of a few Olinemen. But I don't see him overspending there.

 

[sho nuff]

Reading Canty's agents comments...seems they wanted an offer from GB before GB even got the meet him. Im glad TT does not offer people money before ever sitting down with the guy.

 

[griz145389]

Takes money to make money.If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done.I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes.What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

some real nuggets of football wisdom hereLike clockwork, Packer fans everywhere crap their pants when the team doesn't sign anyone during the "dumb money" first week of free agency. Most had never heard the name Chris Canty four days ago, and suddenly the fture of the franchise depends on this guy.

I had been hoping for Chris Canty since the move to a 3-4 was announced. Is it a huge deal that we did not get that one guy? No, not really. And I am holding off judging free agency until we have a bit more time to see what we can sign. However if we go through another year with Ted signing only 1 or 2 marginal players and a bunch of long shots, I will not be happy. A lot of the Thompson supporters had been saying they thought Ted would be making some big moves this year in free agency. So far that has not been the case.

I don't recall anyone saying he would make "big" moves.But more than he has recently.I think Canty would have been a pretty big move for them.I don't see many more that could even be considered big moves right now outside of a few Olinemen. But I don't see him overspending there.

I meant big by Ted Thompson standards. Something more than signing a backup positional player or two. Granted free agency is not over yet, and there are a few people that I would still like to see brought in, so I will reserve judgement for now.

 

[Mario Kart]

Takes money to make money.If not willing to spend a little, or anything actually, things will not get done.I am not saying go spend half of your cap on one player, but it takes money to win sometimes.What has Thompson won versus what has Thompason spent? Answer: very little.

some real nuggets of football wisdom hereLike clockwork, Packer fans everywhere crap their pants when the team doesn't sign anyone during the "dumb money" first week of free agency. Most had never heard the name Chris Canty four days ago, and suddenly the fture of the franchise depends on this guy.

Wow, look who is overreacting. I am not nor will I ever crap in my pants over no or any signings. I never mentioned Canty or anyone yet you are making the claim I am coming in here like clockwork. Big freaking LOL to that one. Anyway, Thompson has not spent any money in free agency compared to other teams and where has that got the Packers? Again, not much and again, it takes some money to win. If not willing to dole it out, might have a repeat of the previous years. Again, get ready for the draft and quite possibly a sub .500 season. Now, go clean your pants.