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100% theft preventionI've noticed recently the Target I go to shuts down their self checkout near closing time and everyone has to go through a cashier line.
100% theft preventionI've noticed recently the Target I go to shuts down their self checkout near closing time and everyone has to go through a cashier line.
My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
Regardless of what people are calling it, I'll happily cop to the second thing you mentioned. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I can see retirement from here. I can do my job just fine on autopilot during normal business hours without needing to stay late or take work home. I actually haven't taken work home in years -- not sure exactly how long, but it's been a long time. I care about the quality of my work, and I care about contributing to my team, but I'm not looking for a promotion at this point so why worry about doing anything beyond my actual job?My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
I am in the exact same situation. Doing a quality job and getting everything done that needs to get done is important but I don't take anything home (generally) and if I am efficient while at work there isn't a need for more than 40 (typically there really isn't a need for more than 30 if I am doing my job well). On the other hand there are others that seem to never have enough time mainly because they aren't efficient and waste too much time during the day.Regardless of what people are calling it, I'll happily cop to the second thing you mentioned. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I can see retirement from here. I can do my job just fine on autopilot during normal business hours without needing to stay late or take work home. I actually haven't taken work home in years -- not sure exactly how long, but it's been a long time. I care about the quality of my work, and I care about contributing to my team, but I'm not looking for a promotion at this point so why worry about doing anything beyond my actual job?
I'm very glad that I worked hard in my 30s so I can kind of coast in my 50s. That was always the plan I suppose, and it worked out.
I think the original premise behind quiet quitting was doing exactly what you’re paid to do and not going beyond that to take on additional tasks, staying late etc. Basically still doing a good job but limiting it to what you’re paid for and no more.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
Yes, the latter is considered quiet quitting. And it's ridiculous.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
Agreed. That term is so negative that it amazes me it pertains to actually doing good work. Like I said before, many times the best workers can efficiently get their work done in 40 hrs and it's the lesser workers that need the 50 hrs to get the same stuff done. All that does is make the efficient worker look bad because look at Johnny working 50 hrs. Why don't you do that? Well, because I got more work done in 40 hrs than Johnny does in 50. Not my fault he is terrible.It's infuriating to me that in our work culture, showing up to work and putting in your 40 hours doing good work is now a negative thing and not good enough.
They really needed a better name for it. Quiet quitting sounds inherently negative. Makes me think management came up with the term.Yes, the latter is considered quiet quitting. And it's ridiculous.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
It's infuriating to me that in our work culture, showing up to work and putting in your 40 hours doing good work is now a negative thing and not good enough.
They really needed a better name for it. Quiet quitting sounds inherently negative. Makes me think management came up with the term.Yes, the latter is considered quiet quitting. And it's ridiculous.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
It's infuriating to me that in our work culture, showing up to work and putting in your 40 hours doing good work is now a negative thing and not good enough.
Seriously?Yes, the latter is considered quiet quitting. And it's ridiculous.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
It's infuriating to me that in our work culture, showing up to work and putting in your 40 hours doing good work is now a negative thing and not good enough.
So it should be called "Job well done"Yes, to basically all of this. The term really was created to say, "Hey, I'll put my 40 hours in and do a good job but I'm going to have a life and not kill myself with work."
I see this all the time. If somebody is new to their role and they look a little harried and overworked, fine, I get it. But you've been in the job for 5 years and you're having trouble meeting deadlines and going on and on about all the work you do in the evenings and weekends? Yeah, I am silently judging your time management skills and overall competence. The message you are communicating and the message you think you're communicating are not in alignment.I am in the exact same situation. Doing a quality job and getting everything done that needs to get done is important but I don't take anything home (generally) and if I am efficient while at work there isn't a need for more than 40 (typically there really isn't a need for more than 30 if I am doing my job well). On the other hand there are others that seem to never have enough time mainly because they aren't efficient and waste too much time during the day.Regardless of what people are calling it, I'll happily cop to the second thing you mentioned. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I can see retirement from here. I can do my job just fine on autopilot during normal business hours without needing to stay late or take work home. I actually haven't taken work home in years -- not sure exactly how long, but it's been a long time. I care about the quality of my work, and I care about contributing to my team, but I'm not looking for a promotion at this point so why worry about doing anything beyond my actual job?
I'm very glad that I worked hard in my 30s so I can kind of coast in my 50s. That was always the plan I suppose, and it worked out.
As a manager I always told my people (salaried) that I didn't care what hours they kept as long as they got their work done. If they could do the job in 30 hours one week great. I had no issue with leaving early or coming in late or taking a long lunch. However, there are times when deadlines or other factors require you to work 50 hours and I would expect them to put in those hours to get the work done they are responsible for. The whole point is to get the job done that you are being paid to do. If you are that good and can do something in 2 hours that takes someone else 4 hrs then you should be rewarded. You shouldn't have to sit around twiddling your thumbs for two hours just to put in your "40".
Working a lot of hours doesn't mean you are a good worker. There should be a term for that as quaint as "quiet quitting". Maybe something like "loudly working". The polar opposite of quiet quitting which sounds bad but is good while loudly working sounds good but is bad. Maybe I need to workshop it a bit.But you've been in the job for 5 years and you're having trouble meeting deadlines and going on and on about all the work you do in the evenings and weekends? Yeah, I am silently judging your time management skills and overall competence. The message you are communicating and the message you think you're communicating are not in alignment.
Seriously?Yes, the latter is considered quiet quitting. And it's ridiculous.My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
It's infuriating to me that in our work culture, showing up to work and putting in your 40 hours doing good work is now a negative thing and not good enough.
That honestly might be the dumbest name ever attributed to anything. If that's what that means than I've been quitting my job (that I do pretty well) for the last 8 years.
I work the hours I'm supposed to and no more. Why? Because working more is dumb.
this is right on you either speak up or move on to somewhere that will give you fair value but dont you dare stay where you are and take it from the man take that to the bank brochachosThe last few pages are eye opening.
I assumed quiet quitting was NOT doing your job but coasting under the radar, maybe due to being remote.
On what planet is doing your job but no more quiet quitting? It is the responsibility of the employer to motivate their staff ( financially or otherwise) to do more than required.
I left my last role because I felt I was underpaid. They split my duties into 2.5 roles AND added a “Sr” to the title to be able to pay my replacement more money. I am pissed I endured that situation for more than 2 years.
But I guess if employees have more blood to give companies will keep squeezing until people push back.
I see this all the time. If somebody is new to their role and they look a little harried and overworked, fine, I get it. But you've been in the job for 5 years and you're having trouble meeting deadlines and going on and on about all the work you do in the evenings and weekends? Yeah, I am silently judging your time management skills and overall competence. The message you are communicating and the message you think you're communicating are not in alignment.I am in the exact same situation. Doing a quality job and getting everything done that needs to get done is important but I don't take anything home (generally) and if I am efficient while at work there isn't a need for more than 40 (typically there really isn't a need for more than 30 if I am doing my job well). On the other hand there are others that seem to never have enough time mainly because they aren't efficient and waste too much time during the day.Regardless of what people are calling it, I'll happily cop to the second thing you mentioned. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I can see retirement from here. I can do my job just fine on autopilot during normal business hours without needing to stay late or take work home. I actually haven't taken work home in years -- not sure exactly how long, but it's been a long time. I care about the quality of my work, and I care about contributing to my team, but I'm not looking for a promotion at this point so why worry about doing anything beyond my actual job?
I'm very glad that I worked hard in my 30s so I can kind of coast in my 50s. That was always the plan I suppose, and it worked out.
As a manager I always told my people (salaried) that I didn't care what hours they kept as long as they got their work done. If they could do the job in 30 hours one week great. I had no issue with leaving early or coming in late or taking a long lunch. However, there are times when deadlines or other factors require you to work 50 hours and I would expect them to put in those hours to get the work done they are responsible for. The whole point is to get the job done that you are being paid to do. If you are that good and can do something in 2 hours that takes someone else 4 hrs then you should be rewarded. You shouldn't have to sit around twiddling your thumbs for two hours just to put in your "40".
Shows you how enslaved we've become to our work lives and corporate overlords when we think only doing what is required is "quitting"The last few pages are eye opening.
I assumed quiet quitting was NOT doing your job but coasting under the radar, maybe due to being remote.
On what planet is doing your job but no more quiet quitting? It is the responsibility of the employer to motivate their staff ( financially or otherwise) to do more than required.
I left my last role because I felt I was underpaid. They split my duties into 2.5 roles AND added a “Sr” to the title to be able to pay my replacement more money. I am pissed I endured that situation for more than 2 years.
But I guess if employees have more blood to give companies will keep squeezing until people push back.
I worked with a woman about 10 years ago that was an extreme example of this. I wasn't her manager but worked in a related role. She was always incredibly busy whenever you asked how she was doing. Other managers would question if we should add another person in that role since it seemed like there was too much work for one person. She went on maternity leave and we brought in a fresh grad to fill in for her. After a while the fresh grad came to me and asked for more work because it only took her 7 hours a week to finish all her work. As soon as the original person came back, the work seemed to expand and she was again incredibly busy. She got promoted after I left, and I still have no idea what she did all day long.Working a lot of hours doesn't mean you are a good worker. There should be a term for that as quaint as "quiet quitting". Maybe something like "loudly working". The polar opposite of quiet quitting which sounds bad but is good while loudly working sounds good but is bad. Maybe I need to workshop it a bit.But you've been in the job for 5 years and you're having trouble meeting deadlines and going on and on about all the work you do in the evenings and weekends? Yeah, I am silently judging your time management skills and overall competence. The message you are communicating and the message you think you're communicating are not in alignment.
She was a geniusI worked with a woman about 10 years ago that was an extreme example of this. I wasn't her manager but worked in a related role. She was always incredibly busy whenever you asked how she was doing. Other managers would question if we should add another person in that role since it seemed like there was too much work for one person. She went on maternity leave and we brought in a fresh grad to fill in for her. After a while the fresh grad came to me and asked for more work because it only took her 7 hours a week to finish all her work. As soon as the original person came back, the work seemed to expand and she was again incredibly busy. She got promoted after I left, and I still have no idea what she did all day long.Working a lot of hours doesn't mean you are a good worker. There should be a term for that as quaint as "quiet quitting". Maybe something like "loudly working". The polar opposite of quiet quitting which sounds bad but is good while loudly working sounds good but is bad. Maybe I need to workshop it a bit.But you've been in the job for 5 years and you're having trouble meeting deadlines and going on and on about all the work you do in the evenings and weekends? Yeah, I am silently judging your time management skills and overall competence. The message you are communicating and the message you think you're communicating are not in alignment.
I don’t use it at our Publix. I’ll wait in the 2 lines they have open. Super annoying. If you want me to do your job for you Publix then lower my prices (yea right).I recently had a transaction where the cashier did not look up from their phone or make any eye contact with me. Just completed the sale and handed me my receipt.
They know they'll be out of work soon with self checkout! But that's another rant.
And people say society is lazy. This is a huge win.I think I heard Walmart is getting rid of them due it the high levels of theft of people not scanning items.I recently had a transaction where the cashier did not look up from their phone or make any eye contact with me. Just completed the sale and handed me my receipt.
They know they'll be out of work soon with self checkout! But that's another rant.
What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
Shows you how enslaved we've become to our work lives and corporate overlords when we think only doing what is required is "quitting"The last few pages are eye opening.
I assumed quiet quitting was NOT doing your job but coasting under the radar, maybe due to being remote.
On what planet is doing your job but no more quiet quitting? It is the responsibility of the employer to motivate their staff ( financially or otherwise) to do more than required.
I left my last role because I felt I was underpaid. They split my duties into 2.5 roles AND added a “Sr” to the title to be able to pay my replacement more money. I am pissed I endured that situation for more than 2 years.
But I guess if employees have more blood to give companies will keep squeezing until people push back.
On the other hand, what would you think if your kid decided they were aiming for a D- in all of their classes? That's the bare minimum to pass.
D- is a passing grade thoughI don’t think that’s a great analogy. If you’re doing D- work at a job, I have to think you’re getting fired. Quiet quitting is not the equivalent of that poor a job performance.
Kenneth John Freeman was the student.Me, or @Socrates11, or EinsteinI should have expanded on what I was trying to say.Yep......Rome did not fall overnightParents have been saying this for decades.Our society is slowly turning into a bunch of self centered, entitled, lazy asses, that will gladly let the gub take care of em in exchange for many of our freedoms...... we all know how efficient the gub is, in general.
Yeah, the world has changed. But I think we - the main demographic of this message board - have changed more. So now things that we did when we were younger burn us up now. **** has been messed up since humans have had the ability to make decisions.
Whatever we want to rail against now that we have aged has been happening - to one degree or another - since Hector was a pup.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
Anybody want to guess who this quote is attributed to?
ETA: I know it's either Socrates or Einstein... forget which one. Some old dude.
It is attributed to Socrates, but there's no proof he actually authored the quote. That said, it's from a dissertation of a student from 1907 who was summarizing complaints by Ancient Greeks about the youth of the time.
Our grandkids will complain about their grandkids generation long after we're worm food.
I don’t know where you work but if I got the equivalent of a D- on a performance review, I’d probably be fired.D- is a passing grade thoughI don’t think that’s a great analogy. If you’re doing D- work at a job, I have to think you’re getting fired. Quiet quitting is not the equivalent of that poor a job performance.
Ok then translate it, what’s the lowest passing grade where you workI don’t know where you work but if I got the equivalent of a D- on a performance review, I’d probably be fired.D- is a passing grade thoughI don’t think that’s a great analogy. If you’re doing D- work at a job, I have to think you’re getting fired. Quiet quitting is not the equivalent of that poor a job performance.
What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
Not sure why plumbing doesn't seem good to you. If you're any good at all, you can name your price & hours.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Not sure why plumbing doesn't seem good to you. If you're any good at all, you can name your price & hours.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Anyway, I have a friend who caught a really good niche. He hooked up with a couple of large home-builders and his job was to go into new homes installing door/cabinet hardware before closing. He rarely worked more than 20 hours/week and was making $45k/year in the late 1980s. He got lucky some in that one of the builders was small when he first subbed to them, then they blew up a few years later and were building a couple hundred homes per year. But one of the other builders was already huge when he sold his services to them (it was either Ryan, Winchester, or Pulte - I forget which).
Your cost investment was basically whatever a cordless drill went for and petrol. He asked me to join his business to grow it (I had more contacts than he did), but life happened - looking back, I wish we could have made it work. It's clean work and doesn't require a lot of manual labor. I'm 3 years away from Medicare and often think about doing something like this when I retire.
Your last paragraph has been my plan, so here’s to hoping I have the same success you do.Regardless of what people are calling it, I'll happily cop to the second thing you mentioned. I'm not ready to retire yet, but I can see retirement from here. I can do my job just fine on autopilot during normal business hours without needing to stay late or take work home. I actually haven't taken work home in years -- not sure exactly how long, but it's been a long time. I care about the quality of my work, and I care about contributing to my team, but I'm not looking for a promotion at this point so why worry about doing anything beyond my actual job?My assumption that "quiet quitting" is not giving a crap about your work and just going through the motions while putting in the minimal time. To me that is very different than doing a quality job while you are at your job and just working the 40 hrs you are supposed to be doing (work-life balance). Am I misunderstanding quiet quitting?The only thing I’ll add that I haven’t seen is the idea of quiet quitting - I think there’s a lot of people who have done this as they feel their efforts to kill themselves at work just aren’t worth it. Some perceive that as lazy, some as noble (sticking it to the man), some as a good way to find a work-life balance that works for them. No matter what you call it or what you think about it, it’s a reality.
I'm very glad that I worked hard in my 30s so I can kind of coast in my 50s. That was always the plan I suppose, and it worked out.
I’m sure plumbing is a good for money but I just can’t imagine dealing with a lot of toilets and drains. Seems unpleasant.Not sure why plumbing doesn't seem good to you. If you're any good at all, you can name your price & hours.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Anyway, I have a friend who caught a really good niche. He hooked up with a couple of large home-builders and his job was to go into new homes installing door/cabinet hardware before closing. He rarely worked more than 20 hours/week and was making $45k/year in the late 1980s. He got lucky some in that one of the builders was small when he first subbed to them, then they blew up a few years later and were building a couple hundred homes per year. But one of the other builders was already huge when he sold his services to them (it was either Ryan, Winchester, or Pulte - I forget which).
Your cost investment was basically whatever a cordless drill went for and petrol. He asked me to join his business to grow it (I had more contacts than he did), but life happened - looking back, I wish we could have made it work. It's clean work and doesn't require a lot of manual labor. I'm 3 years away from Medicare and often think about doing something like this when I retire.
I have a buddy thats a really good welder that does really well. It’s certainly hands on type of work, but i’m not sure what the learning curve looks like for most.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
If you’re handy at all, start up a handyman business. You can hire a older person who can do the plumbing work.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Ok then translate it, what’s the lowest passing grade where you workI don’t know where you work but if I got the equivalent of a D- on a performance review, I’d probably be fired.D- is a passing grade thoughI don’t think that’s a great analogy. If you’re doing D- work at a job, I have to think you’re getting fired. Quiet quitting is not the equivalent of that poor a job performance.
Not that I have my finger on the pulse of this segment of the economy or anything, but this definitely seems like an under-served segment of the market. There are lots of people like me who barely know how to use a screwdriver who are now (a) growing older and (b) have the means to outsource this work. It seems like a person could charge enough mark-up on these small jobs to make it work as a retirement gig, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I know of at least one guy in my town whose job is mainly "doing all the deferred maintenance that needs to be done when you're putting your house on the market" and he seems pretty busy, so there's that too.If you’re handy at all, start up a handyman business. You can hire a older person who can do the plumbing work.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Yep and their dads are getting older and can't stop by to do all the handiwork anymore.Not that I have my finger on the pulse of this segment of the economy or anything, but this definitely seems like an under-served segment of the market. There are lots of people like me who barely know how to use a screwdriver who are now (a) growing older and (b) have the means to outsource this work. It seems like a person could charge enough mark-up on these small jobs to make it work as a retirement gig, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I know of at least one guy in my town whose job is mainly "doing all the deferred maintenance that needs to be done when you're putting your house on the market" and he seems pretty busy, so there's that too.If you’re handy at all, start up a handyman business. You can hire a older person who can do the plumbing work.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
They are evaluating using a no-scanning option, you roll through with your cart. Stop and cameras will get everything you have in the cart, and then give you your total, you pay and move on. No cashiers necessary.I think I heard Walmart is getting rid of them due it the high levels of theft of people not scanning items.I recently had a transaction where the cashier did not look up from their phone or make any eye contact with me. Just completed the sale and handed me my receipt.
They know they'll be out of work soon with self checkout! But that's another rant.
Electrician is the way to go. Clean work, good money.I’m sure plumbing is a good for money but I just can’t imagine dealing with a lot of toilets and drains. Seems unpleasant.
You can get $50-100/hour and print money. A lot of the well-known handymen and contractors don’t want to mess with smaller jobs.Not that I have my finger on the pulse of this segment of the economy or anything, but this definitely seems like an under-served segment of the market. There are lots of people like me who barely know how to use a screwdriver who are now (a) growing older and (b) have the means to outsource this work. It seems like a person could charge enough mark-up on these small jobs to make it work as a retirement gig, but maybe I'm wrong about that. I know of at least one guy in my town whose job is mainly "doing all the deferred maintenance that needs to be done when you're putting your house on the market" and he seems pretty busy, so there's that too.If you’re handy at all, start up a handyman business. You can hire a older person who can do the plumbing work.This doesn’t really help me…What trade isn't good to get into? That is the better question.What trades are good to get into? I’m 45 and kind of done with white collar work. Not too worried about money and would like something that is truly hands-on. Have thought about putting up billboards, though my wife thinks it’s too dangerous(not sure I agree) Was looking at wind turbine repair, but that might even be more dangerous…
I’m looking for some specific ideas. Plumbing doesn’t seem good. What is newer that would be good? Something in solar?
Really good point. The really good ones do commercial jobs, so they don't have to deal with humans who don't like the bill they just got.You can get $50-100/hour and print money. A lot of the well-known handymen and contractors don’t want to mess with smaller jobs.
Really good point. The really good ones do commercial jobs, so they don't have to deal with humans who don't like the bill they just got.You can get $50-100/hour and print money. A lot of the well-known handymen and contractors don’t want to mess with smaller jobs.
I have a brother, a carpenter. Never got his contractor's license. So he cannot pull permits, take big jobs, etc.Go on the Nextdoor app, people are always looking for a handyman, some of the jobs are so easy also. Really just need tools and maybe a used Sprinter or work van.