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NPR is starting a Disinformation Team (1 Viewer)

NPR leans a little left, has made a very few mistakes in reporting which they've retracted. The Hunter Biden laptop story would be a great story to cover, along with a deeper dive into a few bigger stories, such as how disinformation surrounding the 2020 election spreads. There is so much disinfo about the laptop including from none other than Elon Musk. That's one of the reasons it hasn't been covered by NPR, until now.

I've been listening to NPR radio at work on my cell phone recently and have heard many interviews about abortion. They've gotten several people from both sides, legal experts, people from Catholic agencies, individuals who regretted and didn't regret an abortion. I found the coverage to be balanced. Plus, they try to get audience call-ins from both sides. 

 
SoBeDad said:
NPR leans a little left, has made a very few mistakes in reporting which they've retracted. The Hunter Biden laptop story would be a great story to cover, along with a deeper dive into a few bigger stories, such as how disinformation surrounding the 2020 election spreads. There is so much disinfo about the laptop including from none other than Elon Musk. That's one of the reasons it hasn't been covered by NPR, until now.

I've been listening to NPR radio at work on my cell phone recently and have heard many interviews about abortion. They've gotten several people from both sides, legal experts, people from Catholic agencies, individuals who regretted and didn't regret an abortion. I found the coverage to be balanced. Plus, they try to get audience call-ins from both sides. 
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Their Twitter feed and their columnists have jumped the shark.

But I do agree that the radio programming tends to be much more balanced and I usually enjoy it. 

 
parasaurolophus said:
Their Twitter feed and their columnists have jumped the shark.

But I do agree that the radio programming tends to be much more balanced and I usually enjoy it. 
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I only have exposure to the former…pretty radical left imo

 
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Using the media's own criteria for calling something mis/disinformation, NPR has an * that no retraction can overcome. They engaged in it and therefor will always be. 

 
djmich said:
I only have exposure to the former…pretty radical left imo
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I'm the opposite in that I've only listened to a small amount of radio and do occasionally get the news update on my Amazon devices.  I've always felt they were slightly left of center but pretty balanced.  No clue about Twitter, etc.

 
AAABatteries said:
I'm the opposite in that I've only listened to a small amount of radio and do occasionally get the news update on my Amazon devices.  I've always felt they were slightly left of center but pretty balanced.  No clue about Twitter, etc.
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Radio is their bread and butter and have some fantastic programs.  During the school year I listen to Morning Edition taking the kids to school.  On weekends I listen to Weekend Edition and All Things Considered.  There are many different shows like 1A, Planet Money, Market Place, TED Radio Hour, Radiolab, etc etc that I will listen to in podcast form when I have time.  

Probably the best thing about NPR is they pretty clearly delineate between their opinion shows and news shows.  That doesn't usually happen in the US MSM.  But I'm not surprised that if you're being introduced to their content through social media and the like that the impression can be different.  That's a feature, not a bug of how those platforms work.  Really wish people would stop going there, but that's never going to happen.

 
The Commish said:
Radio is their bread and butter and have some fantastic programs.  During the school year I listen to Morning Edition taking the kids to school.  On weekends I listen to Weekend Edition and All Things Considered.  There are many different shows like 1A, Planet Money, Market Place, TED Radio Hour, Radiolab, etc etc that I will listen to in podcast form when I have time.  

Probably the best thing about NPR is they pretty clearly delineate between their opinion shows and news shows.  That doesn't usually happen in the US MSM.  But I'm not surprised that if you're being introduced to their content through social media and the like that the impression can be different.  That's a feature, not a bug of how those platforms work.  Really wish people would stop going there, but that's never going to happen.
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My main newsfeed is Twitter.  It’s only as good as the sources with links though.

 
I listen to NPR radio often, but a few times have gotten extremely annoyed and turned them off when it seems the reporter is pushing an agenda, which is always a left leaning agenda.  I don't think they can help it because many of them simply live in an entirely left leaning echo chamber.  I most enjoy their international coverage, but their domestic coverage sometimes reeks of bias.

That said, even those occasions when I sense a bias are rarer than any other station out there.  The only real alternative to news or talk radio is the local far right station and they don't even pretend to be unbiased or fair.

 
Jayrod said:
The only real alternative to news or talk radio is the local far right station and they don't even pretend to be unbiased or fair.
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And it's likely that they have no clear differentiating between news and opinion, or that there's no "pure" news without a whole bunch of commentary thrown in. 

 
The Z Machine said:
And it's likely that they have no clear differentiating between news and opinion, or that there's no "pure" news without a whole bunch of commentary thrown in. 
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It’s knowing the audience.  No one in the rural areas want to hear about the city issues, and vice versa. I don’t fault either side of the counter as radio ratings are very competitive.  

 
FairWarning said:
It’s knowing the audience.  No one in the rural areas want to hear about the city issues, and vice versa. I don’t fault either side of the counter as radio ratings are very competitive.  
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What does the audience have to do with trying to separate opinion from news?

 
The Z Machine said:
I don't understand.  Talk to me like I'm shuke.
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Stations have biases also. The progressive channel in Chicago gives free commentary mixed in with the news.  That is a major market also, not someone breaking in at Peoria Illinois.  

 
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FairWarning said:
Stations have biases also. The progressive channel in Chicago gives free commentary mixed in with the news.  That is a major market also, not someone breaking in at Peoria Illinois. 
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The NPR station? Their news shows like Morning Edition and ATC are national and didn't mix in a ton of opinion, and when they do its not the fire and brimstone, get the masses angry type commentary.

 
I listened to NPR one Saturday for 3 hours on a road trip.  Off the charts left wing.   Maybe it was just that certain day but it was off the charts left wing.  Lot of topics but what stuck with me was the socialist stance thinly disguised as fairness taken by some professor from CA on economics.  no opposing view in this case presented.

didn't surprise me though as I've listened before.

 
The Z Machine said:
The NPR station? Their news shows like Morning Edition and ATC are national and didn't mix in a ton of opinion, and when they do its not the fire and brimstone, get the masses angry type commentary.
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No, they have a very progressive channel that does the same as what was suggested right channels do.  I listened to 15 minutes of NPR today and I won’t be going back.  Then again, I really am unconcerned with looking at a topic from 6 different ways.  it’s obvious one of the ways they don’t cover much is the R way though.  That’s fine for others, just not for me.
 

 
FairWarning said:
No, they have a very progressive channel that does the same as what was suggested right channels do.  I listened to 15 minutes of NPR today and I won’t be going back.  Then again, I really am unconcerned with looking at a topic from 6 different ways.  it’s obvious one of the ways they don’t cover much is the R way though.  That’s fine for others, just not for me.
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OK.  I was confused because this thread is about NPR and you're mixing in commentary on a different station that has a liberal / progressive slant. 

I won't deny that NPR has a bit of a liberal bias.  But it's nothing like right wing talk radio, which seems to be all opinion and is intended to rile up the masses and promote fear and loathing.  NPR doesn't do that. 

What radio station exactly was it and at what time of day? I'd like to see what program was airing.  Can you also describe why you won't be going back?

 
The Z Machine said:
OK.  I was confused because this thread is about NPR and you're mixing in commentary on a different station that has a liberal / progressive slant. 

I won't deny that NPR has a bit of a liberal bias.  But it's nothing like right wing talk radio, which seems to be all opinion and is intended to rile up the masses and promote fear and loathing.  NPR doesn't do that. 

What radio station exactly was it and at what time of day? I'd like to see what program was airing.  Can you also describe why you won't be going back?
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I probably should have posted this to the one who took the shot at conservative radio vs NPR.  

 
shadrap said:
I listened to NPR one Saturday for 3 hours on a road trip.  Off the charts left wing.   Maybe it was just that certain day but it was off the charts left wing.  Lot of topics but what stuck with me was the socialist stance thinly disguised as fairness taken by some professor from CA on economics.  no opposing view in this case presented.

didn't surprise me though as I've listened before.
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Yeah, facts have a bizarre left wing bias.  It’s frustrating.

 
Jayrod said:
I listen to NPR radio often, but a few times have gotten extremely annoyed and turned them off when it seems the reporter is pushing an agenda, which is always a left leaning agenda.  I don't think they can help it because many of them simply live in an entirely left leaning echo chamber.  I most enjoy their international coverage, but their domestic coverage sometimes reeks of bias.
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This.  We should defund NPR and use the money to send more Stinger missiles to Zelenski.

 
SoBeDad said:
NPR leans a little left, has made a very few mistakes in reporting which they've retracted. The Hunter Biden laptop story would be a great story to cover, along with a deeper dive into a few bigger stories, such as how disinformation surrounding the 2020 election spreads. There is so much disinfo about the laptop including from none other than Elon Musk. That's one of the reasons it hasn't been covered by NPR, until now.

I've been listening to NPR radio at work on my cell phone recently and have heard many interviews about abortion. They've gotten several people from both sides, legal experts, people from Catholic agencies, individuals who regretted and didn't regret an abortion. I found the coverage to be balanced. Plus, they try to get audience call-ins from both sides. 
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And they don't yell or interrupt their guests. They acknowledge that climate change is real. For many that fact makes them left leaning.

 
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shadrap said:
I listened to NPR one Saturday for 3 hours on a road trip.  Off the charts left wing.   Maybe it was just that certain day but it was off the charts left wing.  Lot of topics but what stuck with me was the socialist stance thinly disguised as fairness taken by some professor from CA on economics.  no opposing view in this case presented.

didn't surprise me though as I've listened before.
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So the guest then?  Depending on the show (not sure which one you were watching) they sometimes take the approach of giving one side of the story all their time in part 1 then follow up with an entire story of the opposite side in part 2.  However, I suspect perception here is more at play.  What is your go to "down the middle" source?

 
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Just looking at their website, it’s full of left wing topics - and that’s fine. That is their audience.  My problem is people trying to spin it as balanced.  That isn’t to say they don’t have some guests from the right, but that isn’t their audience.  

 
The Commish said:
So the guest then?  Depending on the show (not sure which one you were watching) they sometimes take the approach of giving one side of the story all their time in part 1 then follow up with an entire story of the opposite side in part 2.  However, I suspect perception here is more at play.  What is your go to "down the middle" source?
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If on road trip no "go to" source.  Peruse many stations FM & AM.  NPR does have some fine/different music on weekends.

 
lazyike said:
And they don't yell or interrupt their guests. They acknowledge that climate change is real. For many that fact makes them left leaning.
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I don't listen to NPR very much anymore, but based upon the responses I've seen so far in this thread the fact that they acknowledging climate change is NOT what makes them left leaning. 

I know it's difficult for those of you on the left to understand where we conservatives come from when we talk about bias in the media, but it's there, it's prevalent and it's unabashed.  For you, you're constantly being fed the party line so you think that what you're getting is balanced because that's ALL you hear.  It's not.  Not even close.

For those of us who do listen to other conservatives sources it's as plain as day that NPR and others are biased beyond belief.

 
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BladeRunner said:
I don't listen to NPR very much anymore, but based upon the responses I've seen so far in this thread the fact that they acknowledging climate change is NOT what makes them left leaning. 

I know it's difficult for those of you on the left to understand where we conservatives come from when we talk about bias in the media, but it's there, it's prevalent and it's unabashed.  For you, you're constantly being fed the party line so you think that what you're getting is balanced because that's ALL you hear.  It's not.  Not even close.

For those of us who do listen to other conservatives sources it's as plain as day that NPR and others are biased beyond belief.
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Would be nice if they also had a bias team…a bias team could point out those sources that do not let the end-user know they are biased because they are not upfront about it…that is what some on the left miss about conservative talk radio…yes, they are biased but they usually let you know exactly where they are coming from so you can take everything with a grain of salt whereas NPR tends to not be upfront about it.

 
Boston said:
Would be nice if they also had a bias team…a bias team could point out those sources that do not let the end-user know they are biased because they are not upfront about it…that is what some on the left miss about conservative talk radio…yes, they are biased but they usually let you know exactly where they are coming from so you can take everything with a grain of salt whereas NPR tends to not be upfront about it.
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I think many of the reporters and NPR staff honestly think they are fair and unbiased.

They just don't realize how deeply ingrained their ideology is and how it just seeps out in the questions they ask and the stories they present.  Where I do give them credit is that they at least are attempting to be unbiased, whereas many stations and media outlets are not.

Now some of the NPR guests are pushing agendas for certain and they tend to give left leaning guests both more time and more leeway.  I've heard them ask tough questions of conservative guests and then the next day listen to some softballs lobbed at a liberal guest.  Again, I just think this is their inherent bias coming through.  I wouldn't place it in the intentional camp, per se, although I'm sure there are at least a handful of staff members that would love to use their platform to influence the audience and have attempted to do so.

 
Jayrod said:
I think many of the reporters and NPR staff honestly think they are fair and unbiased.

They just don't realize how deeply ingrained their ideology is and how it just seeps out in the questions they ask and the stories they present.  Where I do give them credit is that they at least are attempting to be unbiased, whereas many stations and media outlets are not.

Now some of the NPR guests are pushing agendas for certain and they tend to give left leaning guests both more time and more leeway.  I've heard them ask tough questions of conservative guests and then the next day listen to some softballs lobbed at a liberal guest.  Again, I just think this is their inherent bias coming through.  I wouldn't place it in the intentional camp, per se, although I'm sure there are at least a handful of staff members that would love to use their platform to influence the audience and have attempted to do so.
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As I stated earlier, my consumption is mostly around the news shows like Morning Edition and All Things Considered and then a good number of the "non political" shows.  What shows are you guys talking about where you experience this?  Might need to tune in for a bit and listen for myself.

 
Jayrod said:
I think many of the reporters and NPR staff honestly think they are fair and unbiased.

They just don't realize how deeply ingrained their ideology is and how it just seeps out in the questions they ask and the stories they present.  Where I do give them credit is that they at least are attempting to be unbiased, whereas many stations and media outlets are not.

Now some of the NPR guests are pushing agendas for certain and they tend to give left leaning guests both more time and more leeway.  I've heard them ask tough questions of conservative guests and then the next day listen to some softballs lobbed at a liberal guest.  Again, I just think this is their inherent bias coming through.  I wouldn't place it in the intentional camp, per se, although I'm sure there are at least a handful of staff members that would love to use their platform to influence the audience and have attempted to do so.
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Yep.  Journalists are not immune to the effects of living in an intellectual bubble just because they're journalists.  They might be better equipped to break out of that bubble than your average person, but they're still human beings who are subject the same sort of bias and motivated reasoning as everybody else.  When your newsroom is 95-5 D-R, we all should expect your coverage to be biased even if you're trying your hardest to be objective.  Very few people can remain tethered to reality when they live in that sort of environment, and let's be honest -- a lot of of journalists really weren't trying very hard in the first place.  If Dan Rather was willing to set a life-long career on fire to advance his ideological agenda, how many flunkies making $40K a year would happily do the same?

 
The Commish said:
And where do you rank NPR among those?  By your initial comments of it being "off the charts", I'd assume left of MSNBC?
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no & not even close.  Msnbc is in it's own realm as being slanted, biased, et al.  No knock on those who like it.  to each their own.  

 
BladeRunner said:
I don't listen to NPR very much anymore, but based upon the responses I've seen so far in this thread the fact that they acknowledging climate change is NOT what makes them left leaning. 

I know it's difficult for those of you on the left to understand where we conservatives come from when we talk about bias in the media, but it's there, it's prevalent and it's unabashed.  For you, you're constantly being fed the party line so you think that what you're getting is balanced because that's ALL you hear.  It's not.  Not even close.

For those of us who do listen to other conservatives sources it's as plain as day that NPR and others are biased beyond belief.
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I don't disagree with a portion of what you said. They do lean left quite a bit. Recently the were discussing transgender swimmer Leah Thompson and I turned it off as I didn't like where they appeared to be headed. Leaning left doesn't mean I think they fabricate stories or use alternative facts Ike other media.

 
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