ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I think I'd gamble and roll with the Gordon/Rice/Pierce/Reed side.
I'm not even sure it's much of a gamble.
I'm not even sure it's much of a gamble.
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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter Concept Coop
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
beef
Footballguy
Martin for me. Not even close.
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
12 team PPR, best ball scoring, start QB, x2 RB, x3 WR, TE, R/W/T, K, D
Team A gives: Adrian Peterson, 2014 pick 2.04
Team B gives: Giovani Bernard, 2014 pick 1.09
Team A gives: Adrian Peterson, 2014 pick 2.04
Team B gives: Giovani Bernard, 2014 pick 1.09
Spike
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Me too. Rice and Pierce are both being undervalued right now. There would be more room for concern if ONE of the two saw their production plummet. The fact that both did suggests that it was due to factors outside of the RB spot.
Gordon is a top 3 devy asset, and Reed is no throw in. He has a shot to be worth as much as Martin by the end of the year.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I'm not so sure. Austin and Pierce both have upside. I think it's close and my pick would depend on my roster.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Gurley, Cooper, Yeldon are the obvious guys that are rostered already. Leaving me to most likely choose between Diggs, Davis, DGB, Treadwell, Strong, or one of the younger RB's. Leaning towards Diggs right now.Concept Coop said:
2 fringe WR and the 1st overall for a solid RB prospect and 2nd overall...I like it for you no matter who you pick
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I like it, but think it depends on who he picks. This is just my personal opinion, but Davis/Duke is a clear win. Duke/Diggs...I don't know. Diggs is where he is due to a weak crop of devy WRs. Most years, he's not a candidate for a top 3 devy pick. I don't think he's clearly ahead of a number of WRs who might not even get drafted in most devy drafts. If Diggs is the target, I think he should keep trading down.
Again, just my thoughts and devy players are a crapshoot anyway.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
This is a good point. Maybe I need to look into Davis more, or maybe I need to shoot for the moon with DGB if I'm going to go WR. Diggs just seems like the safest bet to be a playmaker in the NFL out of the 2015 eligible WR's that are still available.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I agree that he's safe. But I view the devy/rookie draft picks as a balance of upside and security. I look for upside from my devy picks, typically. In my devy leagues, the devy drafts are very RB heavy. Thus, the rookie drafts are usually thin at RB, except at the very top. Because of this, "safe WR" is typically not at option for me when using a premium devy pick. You can pass on WR with your devy picks and still get a solid WR prospect in the rookie draft. You can't do the opposite and get solid RB prospets, unless you have a top 2-3 rookie pick.
ETA: There are some obvious exceptions--Dez, Blackmon, Fitz, Watkins, Lee, etc.--I just don't place Diggs in that class.
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Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
I agree with this as wellConcept Coop said:
solorca
Footballguy
I like EJ, but I don't expect him to be anything more than a solid QB2 at best. I don't expect him to ever be elite. Plus, I have Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, and Geno Smith already, so the odds of him cracking my starting lineup anytime soon is minimal.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Maybe we should move this to one of the devy threads, but it's probably relevant for me to add that we can start up to 4 WR's and only need to start 1 RB. This was a start-up last year, so we haven't had time to develop draft trends yet, but I have a feeling RB's won't be as highly coveted in my league as in yours.
I think Diggs is comparable to a more stretched out Cobb, but he's got some serious hands and plucking ability. We'll see, but I could see Diggs end up a late 1st round pick in the NFL.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I like it a lot more with those settings. My only devy leagues have been start 2+, so my opinion was biased, accordingly.
Our rules are a little....eccentric$105 cap. ADP is at $65 and dude has Martin(at 58) Not sure why he bailed on Brown (12) though.
I still have picks 1,3,12,13,14 & 20.
I traded away ADP before our 2013 draft and Lynch midseason.
I probably will throw ADP back and redraft him at 1 and I may end up doing the same with Lynch (after reacquiring him)
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squistion
Footballguy
15 keeper/dynasty PPR
I gave:
Trent Richardson
Danny Amendola
I got:
T.Y. Hilton
Marvin Jones
Notes: I am weak at RB but have lost my faith in TRich, plus I have the 1.01 in the rookie draft to take the best RB available. Meanwhile, the best of my WR corps all have questions marks: Cobb/Fitzgerald/Patterson. Very happy to add Hilton and I think Jones is undervalued and am not sorry to lose the injury prone Amendola.
I gave:
Trent Richardson
Danny Amendola
I got:
T.Y. Hilton
Marvin Jones
Notes: I am weak at RB but have lost my faith in TRich, plus I have the 1.01 in the rookie draft to take the best RB available. Meanwhile, the best of my WR corps all have questions marks: Cobb/Fitzgerald/Patterson. Very happy to add Hilton and I think Jones is undervalued and am not sorry to lose the injury prone Amendola.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I don't really see the point of posting a trade like that without being real specific about the rules and league setup.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team PPR devy league.
Gave:
2015 1st
2015 2nd
2015 2nd
2015 devy
(hopefully all late picks--mostly my original picks)
Got:
Spiller
2015 3rd
Gave:
2015 1st
2015 2nd
2015 2nd
2015 devy
(hopefully all late picks--mostly my original picks)
Got:
Spiller
2015 3rd
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I like the Trent for Hilton portion of the deal. Not sure I'd have included Amendola for Jones, but it's close enough.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I know this won't be popular but I like Cruz better then Jeffery. I am probably biased since I picked him up on the waivers a couple years ago and I traded Jeffery last year.Tybeeman said:
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I love Hilton but I don't like the move. I would have told people I was taking Watkins first overall and hoped someone else was in love with him and traded back 2 or 3 spots and got a running back.
Spike
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I am not sure if you are mocking me or not, if you aren't I am sorry for doubting you and thanks for the compliment.
squistion
Footballguy
Assuming you can move back, but from past experience in this league I am not sure I could pull that off - better to go with the bird in the hand.
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1ppr, start 3 WR/TE and 1 RB/WR/TE flex.
Victor Cruz, Aaron Dobson, 2014 1.10 rookie pick FOR
Doug Martin, Mike James, Alex Smith, 2015 2nd round rookie pick
Team receiving Cruz, Dobson, 1.10 has 2014 1.04, 1.09, 1.10 and 1.12
Team receiving Martin still has original 1.07 pick (1.10 was somebody else's)
Victor Cruz, Aaron Dobson, 2014 1.10 rookie pick FOR
Doug Martin, Mike James, Alex Smith, 2015 2nd round rookie pick
Team receiving Cruz, Dobson, 1.10 has 2014 1.04, 1.09, 1.10 and 1.12
Team receiving Martin still has original 1.07 pick (1.10 was somebody else's)
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I think if you have the top pick it is always good to make it known who you are taking.
If other people dont want the guy, then so be it, you dont make a move and you just take who you take at #1.
If a few people really want the guy, it might jumpstart a bit of a bidding war for the #1.
Hell it might even be better to just lie about who you are taking at pick 1. Maybe the guy at pick 2 wants him and you get something decent to move back and take the same player anyway.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I say let them guess. Owners then have to trade up to get their guy, whether it's your target or not. Telling them limits your trading partners to those who also value that player at #1.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Agreed. Keep everyone guessing. You never know if after the combine another league mate falls in love with a player and will move up to try and get him. Why limit the value of the pick if say someone at 1.3 knows they'll still be able to get the guy they want? Make them trade up.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
....or the flip slide to that is if you let them know who you're taking, they get more aggressive in their offers for that pick if you're taking who they want. I have the top Devy pick and the top 2014 pick in Deep End Dynasty and I know for a fact what I just said is true.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think in your situation, it works. The top option is on a tier of his own, according to most of us, I'd guess. If Gordon was in the draft, however, in your shoes, I wouldn't tell anyone whether I was taking Gordon or Davis.
FFPC:
Gave Knile Davis and 2015 #3 for Jeremy Maclin and 2015#4.
Owner who picked up Knile than immediately accepted trade netting him Charles
Demarco and 1.1 for Charles and 1.7.
This owner had picked up Demarco recently for Ben Tate, Cecil Shorts, 2.1 and 2.5
A few weeks previously he acquired Ben Tate for 2.3 and 3.7.
So in summary he ended up giving 1.1, 2.1, 2.3, 2.5, 3.7, and Cecil Shorts for Jamal Charles which I think was really good work.
Gave Knile Davis and 2015 #3 for Jeremy Maclin and 2015#4.
Owner who picked up Knile than immediately accepted trade netting him Charles
Demarco and 1.1 for Charles and 1.7.
This owner had picked up Demarco recently for Ben Tate, Cecil Shorts, 2.1 and 2.5
A few weeks previously he acquired Ben Tate for 2.3 and 3.7.
So in summary he ended up giving 1.1, 2.1, 2.3, 2.5, 3.7, and Cecil Shorts for Jamal Charles which I think was really good work.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
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