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**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (2 Viewers)

I ####### hate baseball

Richards gets hurt

Maddon lets Odorizzi face Kinsler in the 7th, with 110 pitches, for some ### ####ed reason. Kinsler gets on, bullpen opens the flood gates

Girardi quick hooks Pineda under 90 pitches, bullpen blows lead

Every damn closer I have enters the game with it tied or a 4 run lead.

:wall:

 
Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more background :shrug:

 
MLB's statement said something to the effect that the Cubs grounds crew sucks.

Or that their failure to properly wrap the tarps caused a malfunction which caused the field to not be properly covered.....thus the field was unplayable due to equipment failure rather than weather.

Now....about all those losing SF baseball wagers.......

 
Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more background :shrug:
Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.

 
Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more background :shrug:
Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.
:lol:

"I can't be bothered to watch the two minutes video on MLB.com for the complete summary. I'd rather you spend 10 minutes typing up something I'll halfway read before posting my hot take in the thread."

 
Limp Ditka said:
shadyridr said:
Limp Ditka said:
shadyridr said:
"Good said:
shadyridr said:
Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more background :shrug:
Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.
Sorry to inconvenience you pal. I was at a wake all night and didnt have any time to read the article until this morning when I got to work.

 
Limp Ditka said:
shadyridr said:
Limp Ditka said:
shadyridr said:
"Good said:
shadyridr said:
Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more background :shrug:
Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.
Sorry to inconvenience you pal. I was at a wake all night and didnt have any time to read the article until this morning when I got to work.
But you would have had time to read my detailed post, if that's what I would have provided?

 
Knee way worse than a broken ankle, that ####### sucks having him in a keeper.
That pretty much puts an end to any shot I had this season.

Possible keeper for me too next season. We keep 6 total, I'll usually keep only 2 pitchers. Jose Fernandez and now Richards. Looks like Strasburg and Teheran for me.

 
With the way he throws, RIchards is probably going to need TJ anyway, so why don't they just do it now when he's out for 9 months anyway? Get it all out of the way and come back in 2016 fresh as a daisy.

 
guys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
not on average: http://www.hardballtimes.com/a-primer-on-tommy-john-surgery-part-one/

When looking at how pitchers performed before and after the surgery, I am going to go with information I know and trust because I worked on it. In the The Hardball Times Annual 2013, Brian Cartwright and I looked at the effects of returning from Tommy John surgery.

Starting with velocity, we looked at four seasons.

  • Season 1: Last full healthy season
  • Season 2: Season of TJS
  • Season 3: Season of return from TJS
  • Season 4: First full season after TJS
With this set-up, a healthy baseline is set before and after the operation. Also of note, not all pitchers are compared in each group. If a pitcher had Tommy John surgery in spring training, there would be no data to compare for the “Season of TJS.” Additionally, we used both weighted (by total pitches) and unweighted samples because pitch speed stabilizes quickly.

  • Season: Weighted, Non-weighted
  • Season 1 to 2: -0.10, -0.37
  • Season 1 to 3: +0.14, +0.05
  • Season 1 to 4: -0.07, -0.80
Besides our article, The American Journal of Sports Medicine looked at velocity decline andfound similar values.

  • Time Frame: Decline
  • 1 year before surgery to 1 year after: -0.2 mph
  • 1 year before surgery to 2 years after: -0.1 mph
  • Up to 3 years before surgery to up to 3 years after: -0.4 mph
With the preceding information, a couple of points can be made.

  1. Tommy John surgery doesn’t help a pitcher increase velocity. While there was a small increase from Season 1 to Season 3 in our sample, it would not be worth it for a pitcher to miss at a minimum one season to see a 0.1 mph bump that they then will immediately lose. Probably most of the increase is from a decline in production before the injury knocked them out of action, as well as the time spent rehabbing.
  2. While TJS doesn’t increase velocity, it does seem to limit the effects of aging. On average, a pitcher with lose 0.25 mph on his fastball per season. With the time off for the surgery, some need rest and a regimented workout plan, as Tommy John recipients come back not aging as much. Here is an aging curve graph for all pitchers and those who had the surgery.
After surgery, pitchers don’t see a huge jump in velocity.
 
Sources: Deal between #RedSox, Castillo, when finished, will be 7 yrs., $72.5M, but almost completely backloaded, with little money in ’14.

crazy money :loco: reeks of a little desperation here by the BoSox

 
12 million a year is not a lot of money. the 6 years seems a couple years too long, but he doesn't need to be Abreu to earn that contract

 
Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.

I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?

 
Good Posting Judge said:
rodg12 said:
Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.

I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
1. Accumulate assets

2. Decide what to do with them

3. Profit

 
"Good said:
rodg12 said:
Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.

I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
1. Accumulate assets

2. Decide what to do with them

3. Profit
Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?
 
"Good said:
rodg12 said:
Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.

I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
1. Accumulate assets

2. Decide what to do with them

3. Profit
Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?
If he plays that 2015 contract at 500k, yes.

 
"Good said:
rodg12 said:
Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.

I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
1. Accumulate assets

2. Decide what to do with them

3. Profit
Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?
If he plays that 2015 contract at 500k, yes.
I'm interested to see how this plays out. I doubt he'll play for peanuts.

 
Sawks (and not the Cards) hold all the cards in that scenario. If his goal is to make money, sitting out a year or retiring is even worse than playing for peanuts.

Figure out an extension, fine, but he signed the ####### thing.

 
44 players in MLB have more home runs this year than Miguel Cabrera.

Neat.
I spent a huge portion of my auction money on him, and aside from a nice avg and rbi's, he is killing me. Lucas Duda has more homers.
Well, Lucas Duda has more homers than EVERYONE IN MLB since the All-Star break.....

Cabrera is 9th in mlb in runs, 6th in rbi's and 7th in average.

Cabrera is not having a monster season, but it's not as if the guy is an anchor on your team, in like 90% of the standard 5x5 leagues out there he's still a top10 or so player

 
I am in love with Lucas Duda. Kept me afloat during Encarnacion's injury and saved me this week in my UTIL spot with his performance yesterday, giving me a 4-point win and clinching a playoff spot. The coolest of cool stories, bro.

 

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