The Cubs grounds crew sucks as much as the team on the field does.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more backgroundMy response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?
 Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more backgroundMy response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?![]()
Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more backgroundMy response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?![]()
 Sorry to inconvenience you pal. I was at a wake all night and didnt have any time to read the article until this morning when I got to work.Limp Ditka said:Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.shadyridr said:You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more backgroundLimp Ditka said:My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.shadyridr said:what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?"Good said:They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.shadyridr said:Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?![]()
But you would have had time to read my detailed post, if that's what I would have provided?Sorry to inconvenience you pal. I was at a wake all night and didnt have any time to read the article until this morning when I got to work.Limp Ditka said:Well. Let me run right out to the internet and get that for you, sir.shadyridr said:You said the Cubs ground crew sucks. I honestly have no clue why the protest was won. Your one sentence didn't really explain alot. Was hoping for a little more backgroundLimp Ditka said:My response to you might as well have been written on a hall of fame plaque.shadyridr said:what was the case? Doesnt allowing the game to continue set a bad precedence?"Good said:They had a legitimate case, and it could've set a really bad precedent.shadyridr said:Htf did the giants win a protest continuing last nights game?![]()
You spelled Edwin Jackson wrong.McCarthy getting a Kershaw contract this winter.
That pretty much puts an end to any shot I had this season.Knee way worse than a broken ankle, that ####### sucks having him in a keeper.
not on average: http://www.hardballtimes.com/a-primer-on-tommy-john-surgery-part-one/guys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
When looking at how pitchers performed before and after the surgery, I am going to go with information I know and trust because I worked on it. In the The Hardball Times Annual 2013, Brian Cartwright and I looked at the effects of returning from Tommy John surgery.
Starting with velocity, we looked at four seasons.
With this set-up, a healthy baseline is set before and after the operation. Also of note, not all pitchers are compared in each group. If a pitcher had Tommy John surgery in spring training, there would be no data to compare for the “Season of TJS.” Additionally, we used both weighted (by total pitches) and unweighted samples because pitch speed stabilizes quickly.
- Season 1: Last full healthy season
 - Season 2: Season of TJS
 - Season 3: Season of return from TJS
 - Season 4: First full season after TJS
 
Besides our article, The American Journal of Sports Medicine looked at velocity decline andfound similar values.
- Season: Weighted, Non-weighted
 - Season 1 to 2: -0.10, -0.37
 - Season 1 to 3: +0.14, +0.05
 - Season 1 to 4: -0.07, -0.80
 
With the preceding information, a couple of points can be made.
- Time Frame: Decline
 - 1 year before surgery to 1 year after: -0.2 mph
 - 1 year before surgery to 2 years after: -0.1 mph
 - Up to 3 years before surgery to up to 3 years after: -0.4 mph
 
After surgery, pitchers don’t see a huge jump in velocity.
- Tommy John surgery doesn’t help a pitcher increase velocity. While there was a small increase from Season 1 to Season 3 in our sample, it would not be worth it for a pitcher to miss at a minimum one season to see a 0.1 mph bump that they then will immediately lose. Probably most of the increase is from a decline in production before the injury knocked them out of action, as well as the time spent rehabbing.
 - While TJS doesn’t increase velocity, it does seem to limit the effects of aging. On average, a pitcher with lose 0.25 mph on his fastball per season. With the time off for the surgery, some need rest and a regimented workout plan, as Tommy John recipients come back not aging as much. Here is an aging curve graph for all pitchers and those who had the surgery.
 
Youre not allowed to ask questions here. You have to google everythingguys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
No, simpYoure not allowed to ask questions here. You have to google everythingguys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
And my point was you didnt give me an answerNo, simpYoure not allowed to ask questions here. You have to google everythingguys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
You're not allowed to browse pass the answers that you were given.
Why was the appeal won?And my point was you didnt give me an answerNo, simpYou're not allowed to browse pass the answers that you were given.Youre not allowed to ask questions here. You have to google everythingguys do gain a couple mph on their fastball after TJ right?
Hamels to Boston this off-season is almost a foregone conclusion.must mean they are thinking about moving betts and/or bradley
After next year there's plenty of room.Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
Except that Amaro is probably asking for both those guys and BoagertsHamels to Boston this off-season is almost a foregone conclusion.must mean they are thinking about moving betts and/or bradley
Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
1. Accumulate assetsGood Posting Judge said:Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.rodg12 said:Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?1. Accumulate assets"Good said:Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.rodg12 said:Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
2. Decide what to do with them
3. Profit
If he plays that 2015 contract at 500k, yes.Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?1. Accumulate assets"Good said:Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.rodg12 said:Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
2. Decide what to do with them
3. Profit
I'm interested to see how this plays out. I doubt he'll play for peanuts.If he plays that 2015 contract at 500k, yes.Isn't Lackey a better asset than the combination of Craig and Kelly, though?1. Accumulate assets"Good said:Castillo makes some sense, it's the rest of it that's really confusing.rodg12 said:Sox already have Cespedes, Craig, Victorino, Betts, Bradley in the OF. Now adding Castillo? Seems odd.
I could see a d-minded team like the A's or Rays trying to buy low on Bradley Jr. this off-season as a reclamation project. This certainly puts a big dent in his chances at being a long-term part of Boston's plans. But where does Craig play? If you're going to invest in a MLB-ready (I'm assuming) player like Castillo, why deal away Lackey? And bring on Yoenis?
2. Decide what to do with them
3. Profit
I will gladly let you buy me a couple beers if and when you make it out to Target FieldMe and my buddy went Wrigley a couple weeks back and agreed our next stadium stop is Minnesota. Maybe do Milwaukee on same trip
Right back at ya Moopsie baby.I will gladly let you buy me a couple beers if and when you make it out to Target FieldMe and my buddy went Wrigley a couple weeks back and agreed our next stadium stop is Minnesota. Maybe do Milwaukee on same trip![]()
Just saw this. You realize we're closing bars and ####in fat chicks if you come to Milwaukee, right?Right back at ya Moopsie baby.I will gladly let you buy me a couple beers if and when you make it out to Target FieldMe and my buddy went Wrigley a couple weeks back and agreed our next stadium stop is Minnesota. Maybe do Milwaukee on same trip![]()
I spent a huge portion of my auction money on him, and aside from a nice avg and rbi's, he is killing me. Lucas Duda has more homers.44 players in MLB have more home runs this year than Miguel Cabrera.
Neat.
Well, Lucas Duda has more homers than EVERYONE IN MLB since the All-Star break.....I spent a huge portion of my auction money on him, and aside from a nice avg and rbi's, he is killing me. Lucas Duda has more homers.44 players in MLB have more home runs this year than Miguel Cabrera.
Neat.